Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Renat Akhmerov
a fully functional REST client automatically based on an API specification (WADL could be used for that)? Not sure how convenient it would be, it really depends on a particular implementation, but as an idea it could be at least thought of. Sounds a little bit crazy though, I recognize it :). Renat

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 16 Jan 2014, at 12:36, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: I've already written a POC for solum and some other things to demonstrate how to add additional projects simply by installing the python-*client package. https://github.com/dtroyer/python-oscplugin is a trivial example.

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 16 Jan 2014, at 13:06, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: Since it’s pretty easy to get lost among all the opinions I’d like to clarify/ask a couple of things: Keeping all the clients physically separate/combining them in to a single library. Two things here: In case of

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Renat Akhmerov
projects? So if yes, it’s just going to be one more incubation/integration requirement, right? Renat On 16 Jan 2014, at 18:09, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Renat Akhmerov

Re: [openstack-dev] writing comments as complete sentences

2014-01-15 Thread Renat Akhmerov
that the entire coding culture is built of. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. On 14 Jan 2014, at 06:00, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 08:01 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: Ned Batchelder had an interesting post a few days ago about why code comments should be written

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][mistral] scheduled tasks

2014-01-15 Thread Renat Akhmerov
on that. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. On 02 Jan 2014, at 09:52, Greg Hill greg.h...@rackspace.com wrote: Renat, Thanks for the additional information. I've been trying to put the pieces of history together and it seems I missed some of it. I think I now understand the evolution of things

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-15 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Great idea, fully support it. We’re interested in that too. One specific thing that was mentioned is the ability to mock auth service seems to be very useful for some test scenarios, we came across that recently. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. On 15 Jan 2014, at 14:07, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 01/13/2014

2014-01-13 Thread Renat Akhmerov
.log.html Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [MIstral] Community meeting agenda - 01/13/2014

2014-01-12 Thread Renat Akhmerov
/Meetings/MistralAgenda as well as logs and minutes for the previous meetings. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][mistral] scheduled tasks

2014-01-01 Thread Renat Akhmerov
to provided above. So my main point here that I was trying to make is that EventScheduler is just a special case of Mistral capabilities. We can just provide a convenience for scheduling webhook calls on the API (a couple of hours to implement). Thanks! Happy New Year to everyone! Renat Akhmerov

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][mistral] scheduled tasks

2013-12-30 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Sorry for being a little bit verbose :) … Renat ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Evolving Mistral DSL: Data Flow

2013-12-26 Thread Renat Akhmerov
/my_service/action1?street=25+Broadway+Avenuecity=Woodstock “ If you have any concerns or new ideas on how to improve what we’re proposing please feel free to share with us. Thanks. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Evolving Mistral DSL: Conditional transitions

2013-12-26 Thread Renat Akhmerov
would start new workflow execution with specifying a particular task in a graph. As always, we would like to get your feedback on this. Thanks! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 12/23/2013

2013-12-23 Thread Renat Akhmerov
. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting agenda - 12/16/2013

2013-12-16 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi! This is a reminder that we will have another community meeting today in IRC (#openstack-meeting) at 16.00 UTC. Here’s the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda As usually, you’re welcome to join! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 12/16/2013

2013-12-16 Thread Renat Akhmerov
time. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes and logs - 12/09/2013

2013-12-09 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Join us next time to discuss Mistral PoC and Mistral Engine architecture. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting agenda - 12/09/2013

2013-12-09 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, We’re inviting everyone to participate our community meeting at #openstack-meeting today at 16.00 UTC. Here’s the link to meeting agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda Thanks! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting meetings - 12/02/2013

2013-12-02 Thread Renat Akhmerov
.2013-12-02-16.00.log.html Feel free to join us next time! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Invitation to discuss DSL and API specs

2013-11-26 Thread Renat Akhmerov
about them and tell us what you need from Mistral to be able to use it in other projects. Thanks! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 11/25/2013

2013-11-25 Thread Renat Akhmerov
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[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting agenda - 11/25/2013

2013-11-24 Thread Renat Akhmerov
://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda. Feel free to join us and discuss all the Mistral activities! Thanks. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Etherpad for discussing Mistral engine for TaskFlow

2013-11-20 Thread Renat Akhmerov
://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral#Etherpads Thanks. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Etherpads for discussing Dataflow and Error Handling

2013-11-18 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, We’ve create two more etherpads to start discussing Mistral Dataflow and Error Handling mechanisms: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralDataFlow https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralErrorHandling Feel free to contribute your ideas. Thanks! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Blueprints for Mistral functionality

2013-11-18 Thread Renat Akhmerov
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[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting meetings/log - 11/18/2013

2013-11-18 Thread Renat Akhmerov
us next time to discuss Mistral PoC development. Thanks, Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc.___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Agenda for IRC community meeting - 11/18/2013

2013-11-17 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, Here’s the agenda for today’s IRC community meeting on #openstack-meeting at 16.00 UTC: Review last week's action items Discuss PoC scope Discuss Roadmap Discuss Blueprints Discuss and update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralDesignAndDependencies Open discussion You can also find

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][mistral] EventScheduler vs Mistral scheduling

2013-11-14 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 13 нояб. 2013 г., at 6:39, Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com wrote: Your work mates;) https://github.com/rackerlabs/qonos how about merge qonos into mistral, or at lest put it into stack forge? Just got to looking at qonos. It actually looks similar in some ways to Mistral but with some

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][mistral] EventScheduler vs Mistral scheduling

2013-11-14 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 14 Nov 2013, at 18:03, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: What might be a downside is that sharing a back-end may not be technically convenient - one thing we have been reminded of in Heat is that a service with timed tasks has to be scaled out in a completely different way to a

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Etherpad for Mistral high level design and 3rd party technologies

2013-11-14 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, We’ve created an etherpad to start thinking about Mistral main components and listing out possible 3rd party technologies to use for their implementation. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralDesignAndDependencies Feel free to share your ideas. Thanks. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][mistral] EventScheduler vs Mistral scheduling

2013-11-14 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 14 Nov 2013, at 21:46, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: If you have a service that is stateless and only responds to user requests, then scaling it out is easy (just stick it behind a load balancer). If it has state (i.e. a database), things become a whole lot more complicated to

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list

2013-11-14 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 15 Nov 2013, at 02:46, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Allow me an analogy if you will: Consider a burgeoning city. There are people who have been around a long time. Some are politicians, some work for the city, some are just good citizens. These people see newcomers in the commons

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][mistral] EventScheduler vs Mistral scheduling

2013-11-13 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 13 нояб. 2013 г., at 6:39, Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/11/13 15:13 -0800, Christopher Armstrong wrote: Given the recent discussion of scheduled autoscaling at the summit session on autoscaling, I looked into the state of scheduling-as-a-service in and around OpenStack.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] really simple workflow for Heat configuration tasks

2013-11-12 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 12 нояб. 2013 г., at 19:04, Thomas Spatzier thomas.spatz...@de.ibm.com wrote: If yes, is there a way for passing data around - e.g. output produced by one software config step is input for another software config step? Thomas, yes, we’re planning to have a data flow mechanism similar to

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Roadmap, TaskFlow Mistral, Questions to answer before start Mistral implementation

2013-11-12 Thread Renat Akhmerov
formally is “When do we use TaskFlow and when Mistral?”. It think it’ll give more understanding of what we need from Mistral. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc.___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 11/11/2013

2013-11-11 Thread Renat Akhmerov
/mistral.2013-11-11-16.01.log.html Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-11-11-16.01.html Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] really simple workflow for Heat configuration tasks

2013-11-11 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hey, thanks for bringing up these good points. At this point I may not clearly understand all your concerns so we need to keep discussing these things. See my comments below. On 12 нояб. 2013 г., at 8:15, Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all I think some of you were at the

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Unconference track slides

2013-11-06 Thread Renat Akhmerov
page: launchpad.net/Mistral Please let us know if you’re interested in some particular things about Mistral, I’ll be happy to tell you everything. Thanks, Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc.___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Skipping community meeting on 11/04/2013

2013-11-04 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, I would suggest we skip today’s community meeting. It is not going to be productive due to HK summit activities. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] HK Lightning talk at 1.35 pm

2013-11-04 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hello everyone, I’d like to invite everyone to Mistral Lightning Talk that will be at 1.35 pm on Tuesday (today) in Expo Breakout Room 1. Looking forward to see you there! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] HK Unconference talk on Thursday

2013-11-04 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, We registered an Unconference talk for Mistral. Location: SkyCity Marriott, Meeting room 2 Time: on Thursday, 11.00am Everyone is welcome to join us there and discuss whatever you’re interested in! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Use cases: Cloud Environment Deployment

2013-10-31 Thread Renat Akhmerov
. It is also possible to have both approaches simultaneously or some mix of them working together. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc.___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 31 окт. 2013 г., at 2:37, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: My point is really that we should not care how serialization happens, we should just express the work-flow, and let the underlying mechanisms distribute and manage it as it is completed. Sounds reasonable. In this context,

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 10/28/2013

2013-10-28 Thread Renat Akhmerov
the next Monday (11/04/2013) on #openstack-meeting at 16.00UTC to discuss all the most important Mistral activities. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc.___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting agenda - 10/28/2013

2013-10-27 Thread Renat Akhmerov
discussion Go to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda to find more information about Mistral meetings (e.g. previous meetings’ logs). Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc.___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Use cases: Tasks Scheduling - Cloud Cron

2013-10-25 Thread Renat Akhmerov
finished tasks, on-demand task suspension and resumption and many other things that are useful for both system administrators and application developers. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Teem meeting minutes - 10/21

2013-10-21 Thread Renat Akhmerov
/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-10-21-16.00.html The project has just started, please join us and/or leave your feedback. Renat Akhmerov Mirantis Inc.___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Agenda for today's meeting at 16.00 UTC

2013-10-20 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Mistral at Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/mistral Mistral wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral Renat Akhmerov ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-15 Thread Renat Akhmerov
so far. We now have a link from launchpad name to Convection proposal so one shouldn't be confused about what is what. Thanks! Renat Akhmerov Mirantis Inc. On 15.10.2013, at 0:32, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +2 More collaboration the better :) From: Stan Lagun sla

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-15 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 15.10.2013, at 14:45, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: That said, can we please, please, please not invent a *third* meaning of orchestration? The proposal, as I understand it, is Workflow as a Service, so let's call it that. The fact that orchestration uses a workflow does not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-15 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Yes, will do. Thanks! On 15.10.2013, at 18:37, Nick Chase nch...@mirantis.com wrote: Maybe add a link to the Mistral page from the Convention page? On Oct 15, 2013 4:22 AM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: Hey Clint, thanks for your question. I think it's been fully answered

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Renat Akhmerov
will be holding weekly meetings on Mondays at 16:00 UTC on #openstack-meeting at Freenode. If you have any questions or would like to contribute, you can find us on #openstack-mistral. Renat Akhmerov Software Engineer @ Mirantis Inc. +7(495) 640 4904, ext 0236 +7-905-984-2469 (cell) rakhme

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