On Thu, 2017-10-12 at 12:51 -0400, Zane Bitter wrote:
> So my question to the TC candidates (and incumbent TC members, or
> anyone else, if they want to answer) is: what does the hypothetical
> OpenStack user that is top-of-mind in your head look like? Who are
> _you_ building OpenStack for?
On Tue, 2016-08-30 at 03:08 +, joehuang wrote:
> Hello, Jay,
>
> Sorry, I don't know why my mail-agent(Microsoft Outlook Web App) did
> not carry the thread message-id information in the reply. I'll check
> and avoid to create a new thread for reply in existing thread.
It's a common
On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 17:09 +1000, Mike Carden wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon <
> toni+openstac...@midokura.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It would be really awesome if, in true OSt and OSS spirit this work
> > happened in an OpenStack repository with an open, text based
On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 10:10 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Devdatta Kulkarni wrote:
> > As current PTL of one of the projects that has the team:single
> > -vendor tag, I have following thoughts/questions on this issue.
>
> In preamble I'd like to reiterate that the proposal is not on the
> table
On Mon, 2016-08-01 at 13:43 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
> On 08/01/2016 12:24 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> > Making no judgments about the particular exemplars here, I would
> > just like to point out that one reason why projects exist with very
> > little diversity is
On Mon, 2016-08-01 at 11:38 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2016-08-01 15:14:48 +:
> > I am struggling to understand why we would want to remove projects
> > from our big tent at all, as long as they are being actively
> > developed under the principles of
ns in this model are driven locally
not globally.
James
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> From: James Bottomley [james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:42 PM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions);
ome equivalence to openstack projects/PTLs) doing this on
a case by case basis.
James
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> From: James Bottomley [james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:57 AM
> To: OpenStack Development
On Wed, 2016-07-20 at 21:24 +0300, Duncan Thomas wrote:
> On 20 July 2016 at 19:57, James Bottomley <
> james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > OK, I accept your analogy, even though I would view currency as the
> > will to create and push
On Wed, 2016-07-20 at 16:08 +, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
> +1 to the finding of a middle ground.
Thanks ... I have actually been an enterprise architect (I just keep
very quiet about it when talking Open Source).
> The problem I've seen with your suggested OpenSource solution is the
> current
On Wed, 2016-07-20 at 11:58 +0200, Julien Danjou wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19 2016, Clint Byrum wrote:
>
> > Perhaps if we form and start working together as a group, we can
> > disect why nothing happened, build consensus on the most important
> > thing to do next, and actually fix some
On Thu, 2016-07-07 at 21:28 -0500, Edward Leafe wrote:
> On Jul 7, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Joshua Harlow
> wrote:
> >
> > That's sad, how can we fix the fact that users/deployments have
> > gone off into their own silos and may be running their own forks;
> > what went wrong
On Mon, 2016-02-29 at 17:48 -0500, Anita Kuno wrote:
> On 02/29/2016 05:34 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
[...]
> > While I accept there is potentially a gaming problem in all forms
> > of Open Source (we see this in the kernel with the attempt to boost
> > patch counts with
On Mon, 2016-02-29 at 15:57 -0500, Anita Kuno wrote:
> On 02/29/2016 03:10 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote:
> >
> > > > Current thinking would be to give preferential rates to access
> > > > the main summit to people who are present to other events (like
> > > > this new separated contributors-oriented
On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 17:24 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:55:52AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 16:03 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:39:08AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > > >
On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 16:03 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:39:08AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 02/22/2016 10:14 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > TL;DR: Let's split the events, starting after Barcelona.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
On Thu, 2016-02-25 at 12:40 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Qiming Teng wrote:
> > [...]
> > Week 1:
> >Wednesday-Friday: 3 days Summit.
> > * Primarily an event for marketing, sales, CTOs, architects,
> >operators, journalists, ...
> > * Contributors can decide whether they
On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 11:40 -0500, Sean Dague wrote:
> On 02/24/2016 11:28 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 07:48 -0500, Sean Dague wrote:
> > > We have a specific bug around aggregrate metadata setting in Nova
> > > which
> > > exposes
On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 07:48 -0500, Sean Dague wrote:
> We have a specific bug around aggregrate metadata setting in Nova
> which
> exposes a larger issue with our mysql schema.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1538011
>
> On mysql the following will explode with a 500:
>
> > nova
On Wed, 2016-02-17 at 13:25 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote:
> On 02/17/2016 09:28 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> > Are people confused about what OpenStack is because they're looking
> > for a single turn-key system from a vendor? Because they don't know
> > what features they want/need? Or are we just doing
On Mon, 2016-02-15 at 04:36 -0500, Eoghan Glynn wrote:
>
> > > Honestly I don't know of any communication between two cores at a
> > > +2 party that couldn't have just as easily happened surrounded by
> > > other contributors. Nor, I hope, does anyone put in the
> > > substantial reviewing
On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 07:45 -0500, Eoghan Glynn wrote:
>
> > > [...]
> > > * much of the problem with the lavish parties is IMO related to
> > > the
> > > *exclusivity* of certain shindigs, as opposed to devs
> > > socializing at
> > > summit being inappropriate per se. In that vein, I
On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 13:26 -0500, Eoghan Glynn wrote:
>
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > * much of the problem with the lavish parties is IMO
> > > > > related to
> > > > > the
> > > > > *exclusivity* of certain shindigs, as opposed to devs
> > > > > socializing at
> > > > > summit being
On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 09:43 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote:
> On 02/08/2016 09:03 AM, Fausto Marzi wrote:
> > The OpenStack Summit is a great thing as it is now. It creates big
> > momentum, it's a strong motivator for the engineers (as enjoy our
> > time
> > there)
>
> I disagree with you on this. The
On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 15:07 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> tl;dr
> =
>
> I have long thought that the OpenStack Summits have become too
> commercial and provide little value to the software engineers
> contributing to OpenStack.
>
> I propose the following:
>
> 1) Separate the
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 21:49 +0100, Premysl Kouril wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2016 17:43, "James Bottomley" <
> james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> > The 3x difference in the benchmarks would seem to indicate a local
> > tuning or configuration problem,
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 13:54 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Zane Bitter wrote:
> > [...] Honestly, it
> > sounds like the kind of thing you come up with when you've given
> > up.
>
> I tend to agree with that... I think healthy projects should
> naturally
> come up with bursts of feature addition
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 14:58 +0100, Premysl Kouril wrote:
> Hi Matt, James,
>
> any thoughts on the below notes?
To be honest, not really. You've repeated stage two of the Oracle
argument: wheel out benchmarks and attack alleged "complexity". I
don't really have a great interest in repeating a
On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 13:40 +0100, Premysl Kouril wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> thanks for letting me know, we will definitely do reach you out if we
> start some activity in this area.
You still haven't answered Anita's question: when you say "sponsor" do
you mean provide resources to existing
On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 20:48 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time,
> I'll be heard.
>
> Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. When
> they do, then effectively, this tells that a given source file
> copyright
On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 15:38 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 08:48:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time,
> > I'll
> > be heard.
> >
> > Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code.
>
On Sat, 2016-01-09 at 18:11 +0530, Nitin Agarwal wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> A very Happy New Year 2016 !!
>
> I have started a new group "Open Containers" on LinkedIn to provide a
> common platform to all the Containers and Docker enthusiasts and
> passionate
> people. In this group, we will
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 16:55 -0800, Yuhong Bao wrote:
> > > I read the patent and it looks like UEFI or for that matter any
> > > non
> > > -Windows implementation of FAT would probably not infringe on the
> > > patent.
> >
> > Well, I'm not going to give you a legal opinion. However, most
> >
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 18:03 +, Yuhong Bao wrote:
> James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...> writes:
> > As you can see, they're mostly expired (in the US) but the last one
> > will expire in 2020 (if I calculate the date correctly).
> If you are referring to US6286
On Fri, 2015-12-04 at 08:46 -0500, Sean Dague wrote:
> On 12/04/2015 08:34 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 07:43:41AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote:
> > > That seems weird enough that I'd rather push back on our Platinum
> > > Board
> > > member to fix the licensing before we
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 22:48 +, Adrian Otto wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:25 PM, James Bottomley <
> james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 20:35 +, Adrian Otto wrote:
> Clint,
>
> On
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 20:35 +, Adrian Otto wrote:
> Clint,
>
> > On Dec 16, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Tim Bell wrote:
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com]
> > > Sent: 15 December 2015 22:40
> > > To: openstack-dev
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 17:25 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:52:37AM -0400, Adam Young wrote:
On 06/24/2015 06:28 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote:
Gerrit and our spec template are a horrible tool for
discussing design.
This is the heart of the problem.
I think
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 13:05 -0700, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 08:33:56AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 02:43 -0700, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:43:09PM -0400, Emilien Macchi wrote:
What about code history and respect
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 02:43 -0700, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:43:09PM -0400, Emilien Macchi wrote:
What about code history and respect of commit ownership?
I'm personally wondering if it's fair to copy/paste several thousands of
lines of code from another
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 09:29 +0300, Boris Pavlovic wrote:
*- Why not just trust people*
People get tired and make mistakes (very often).
That's why we have blocking CI system that checks patches,
That's why we have rule 2 cores / review (sometimes even 3,4,5...)...
In ideal work
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 17:45 +0300, Boris Pavlovic wrote:
James B.
One more time.
Everybody makes mistakes and it's perfectly OK.
I don't want to punish anybody and my goal is to make system
that catch most of them (human mistakes) no matter how it is complicated.
I'm not saying never do
On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 16:55 +, Adrian Otto wrote:
I will also mention that it’s natural to be allergic to the idea of
nested virtualization. We all know that creating multiple levels of
hardware virtualization leads to bad performance outcomes. However,
nested containers do not carry that
On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 11:54 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Hugh Blemings wrote:
+2
I think asking LWN if they have the bandwidth and interest to do this
would be ideal - they've credibility in the Free/Open Source space and a
proven track record. Nice people too.
On the bandwidth
On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 10:45 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Joe Gordon wrote:
[...]
To tackle this I would like to propose the idea of a periodic developer
oriented newsletter, and if we agree to go forward with this, hopefully
the foundation can help us find someone to write newsletter.
On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 10:39 -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote:
James Bottomley mailto:james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
May 5, 2015 at 9:53 AM
On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 10:45 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Joe Gordon wrote:
[...]
To tackle this I would like to propose the idea of a periodic
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 11:27 +1000, Michael Still wrote:
Additionally, we have consistently asked for non-cores to help cover
the review load. It doesn't have to be a core that notices a problem
with a patch -- anyone can do that. There are many people who do help
out with non-core reviews, and
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 13:35 -0400, Anita Kuno wrote:
On 04/07/2015 01:02 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 11:27 +1000, Michael Still wrote:
Additionally, we have consistently asked for non-cores to help cover
the review load. It doesn't have to be a core that notices
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 18:12 +, Tim Bell wrote:
-Original Message-
From: James Bottomley [mailto:james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com]
Sent: 07 April 2015 19:03
To: Michael Still
Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: [openstack-dev
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 14:24 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
On 04/07/2015 01:35 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
If I look at the history, I also see some reviewers dropping out once
their concerns and review comments have been addressed (after giving a
+1), so the other thing I'd suggest
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 07:03 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
On 04/02/2015 06:54 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 06:45 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
On 04/02/2015 06:33 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 11:32 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Sean Dague wrote:
I just spent
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 11:32 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Sean Dague wrote:
I just spent a chunk of the morning purging out some really old
Incomplete bugs because about 9 months ago we disabled the auto
expiration bit in launchpad -
https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+configure-bugtracker
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 06:45 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
On 04/02/2015 06:33 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 11:32 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Sean Dague wrote:
I just spent a chunk of the morning purging out some really old
Incomplete bugs because about 9 months ago we
On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 17:01 +, Tim Bell wrote:
From the stats
(http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-user-survey-insights-november-2014),
-43% of production clouds use OVS (the default for Neutron)
-30% of production clouds are Nova network based
-
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 11:19 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
James Bottomley wrote:
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 11:59 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Second it's at a very different evolution/maturity point (20 years old
vs. 0-4 years old for OpenStack projects).
Yes, but I thought I covered
On Tue, 2015-02-24 at 12:05 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
[...]
The key observations
The first key observation from the schedule is that although we have
a 6 month release cycle, we in fact make 4 releases in that six
months because
On Sat, 2015-02-07 at 00:44 +, Adrian Otto wrote:
Magnum Team,
In our initial spec, we addressed the subject of resource scheduling. Our
plan was to begin with a naive scheduler that places resources on a specified
Node and can sequentially fill Nodes if one is not specified.
Magnum
On Tue, 2014-10-14 at 19:52 -0400, David Vossel wrote:
- Original Message -
Ok, why are you so down on running systemd in a container?
It goes against the grain.
From a distributed systems view, we gain quite a bit of control by maintaining
one service per container. Containers
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 11:24 -0400, David Vossel wrote:
- Original Message -
On Tue, 2014-10-14 at 19:52 -0400, David Vossel wrote:
- Original Message -
Ok, why are you so down on running systemd in a container?
It goes against the grain.
From a
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 07:36 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
b) The conflict Dan is speaking of is around the current situation where
we
have a limited core review team bandwidth and we have to pick and choose
which virt driver-specific features we will review. This leads to bad
feelings and
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:20 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote:
On 11 September 2014 15:35, James Bottomley
james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com wrote:
OK, so look at a concrete example: in 2002, the Linux kernel went with
bitkeeper precisely because we'd reached the scaling limit of a single
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 17:20 -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
On 09/05/2014 07:07 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
Actually, I don't think this analysis is accurate. Some people are
simply interested in small aspects of a project. It's the scratch your
own itch part of open source. The thing
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 08:02 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
On 09/05/2014 07:40 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:12:37AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
On 09/05/2014 06:40 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote:
A handy example of this I can think of is the currently granted FFE for
serial
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 14:14 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
For a long time I've use the LKML 'subsystem maintainers' model as the
reference point for ideas. In a more LKML like model, each virt team
(or other subsystem team) would have their own separate GIT repo
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 22:31 +, Adrian Otto wrote:
CORRECTION: This event happens July 28-31. Sorry for any confusion!
Corrected Announcement:
I'm afraid all the Parallels guys (including me) will be in Moscow on
these dates for an already booked company meet up.
James
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 14:47 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 05:36:59PM +0400, Dmitry Guryanov wrote:
I have a question about mounts - in OpenVZ project each container has its
own
filesystem in an image file. So to start a container we mount this
filesystem
On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 09:09 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 09:57:41PM +, Adrian Otto wrote:
Containers Team,
The nova-docker developers are currently discussing options for
implementation for supporting mounting of Cinder volumes in
containers, and
On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 17:55 -0400, Eric Windisch wrote:
Why would you mount it from within the container? CAP_SYS_ADMIN is a
per process property, so you use nsenter to execute the mount in the
required mount namespace with CAP_SYS_ADMIN from outside of the
container (i.e. the host).
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 21:57 +, Adrian Otto wrote:
Containers Team,
The nova-docker developers are currently discussing options for
implementation for supporting mounting of Cinder volumes in
containers, and creation of unprivileged containers-in-containters.
Both of these currently
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 16:23 +, Justin Hammond wrote:
I am a developer who is currently having troubles keeping up with the
mailing list due to volume, and my inability to organize it in my client.
I am nearly forced to use Outlook 2011 for Mac and I have read and
attempted to implement
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote:
Hey all
Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody
give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate
service?
It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all,
just another
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:46 -0500, Eric Windisch wrote:
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM, James Bottomley
james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com wrote:
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote:
Hey all
Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody
give
On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 00:21 +, Day, Phil wrote:
Leaving a mark.
===
You review a change and see that it is mostly fine, but you feel that since
you
did so much work reviewing it, you should at least find
*something* wrong. So you find some nitpick and -1 the
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