Good summary. I would also add that in A1 the schedulers (e.g., in Nova
and Cinder) could talk to each other to coordinate. Besides defining the
policy, and the user-facing APIs, I think we should also outline those
cross-component APIs (need to think whether they have to be user-visible,
or
For use case 2, ability to pin an admin/operator owned VM to a particular
tenant can be useful.
I.e., the service VMs are owned by the operator but a particular service VM
will only allow service instances from a single tenant.
Thanks,
Bob
From: Regnier, Greg J
Mike, I agree we could have a cleaner API but I am not sure how
cleanly it will integrate with current nova which IMO should be test
we should pass (assuming we do cross services later)
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Thanks for the clue about where the
What about also allowing a specific service to request a port to be created
on a requested server for an arbitrary service like a physical machine?
I think we should think more in terms of s/VM/Instance where instance can
really be either a VM or a Physical host since it really doesn't matter..
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 09.10.2013 03:54
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration
proposal for workflows
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2013-10-08 13:53:45
On 2013/08/10 23:53, Robert Collins wrote:
On 9 October 2013 07:24, Jiří Stránský ji...@redhat.com wrote:
Clint and Monty,
thank you for such good responses. I am new in TripleO team indeed and I was
mostly concerned by the line in the sand. Your responses shed some more
light on the issue for
On 10/9/13 6:53 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Yes, that helps. Please, guys, do not interpret my questions as
hostility, I really am just trying to understand. I think there is
some overlap between your concerns and mine, and I hope we can work
together.
No probs at all. Don't see a sign of
Hello everyone,
The havana release cycle for Swift already saw the releases of the 1.9.0
and 1.9.1 versions. The final coordinated release for the Havana cycle
shall include Swift 1.10.0. We now have a Swift release candidate for this:
https://launchpad.net/swift/havana/1.10.0-rc1
Unless
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:53:45AM +0400, Stan Lagun wrote:
Hello,
I’m one of the engineer working on Murano project. Recently we started a
discussion about Murano and Heat Software orchestration and I want to
continue this discussion with more technical details.
Thanks, we're certainly
Anita Kuno wrote:
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Reminder: You have until tomorrow Thursday, 23:59 UTC to announce your
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Gareth wrote:
it seems that we didn't log this channel in
here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2013/
Meetings are logged per-meeting. This one in particular is logged at
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Mike, I'll try to describe the reservation process for the virtual
reservations. I'll use Nova project as an example.
As I said, this Nova workflow is only the example that may and certainly
will be modified for other 'virtual' projects.
1) User goes to Nova via CLI/Dashboard and commits all
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Next meeting is on Wed Oct 9th at 2100 UTC
Please add your name with the agenda item, so we know who to call on during
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On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 02:31:34PM +0200, Jaromir Coufal wrote:
Hi Chris,
On 2013/08/10 13:13, Chris Jones wrote:
Hi
On 8 October 2013 11:59, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote:
* Example: It doesn't make sense, that someone who is
core-reviewer
Just a quick note to say that we're skipping the XenAPI meeting this week as a
couple of key participants have other commitments.
Normal service will resume next week.
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Thanks, we're certainly interested in Murano, and are keen to discuss your
roadmap, and where requirements and integration opportunities exist
Glad to here it. The same is true from Murano side.
On sample SQL workflow: that was just an example. I didn't want to bother
you with a SQL Server
Hi Yathi,
Thanks for having taken time explaining your vision.
Climate is about reservations, ie. preempting resources capacity and
granting a user he will actually get exclusive access to a certain set
of resources he asks for a certain period of time.
The resource placement decisions are
There are also times when I know a hypervisor needs to be failed even if Nova
has not detected it. Typical examples would be an intervention on a network
cable or retirement of a rack.
The problem of VM Zombies does need to be addressed too. Not simple to solve.
Thus, I feel a shared effort
Hi everyone,
I've read this thread and I'd like to share some thoughts. In my opinion,
workflows (which run on VMs) can be integrated with heat templates as
follows:
1. workflow definitions should be defined separately and processed by
stand-alone workflow engines (chef, puppet etc).
2.
I favor separation of concerns. I think (4), at least, has got nothing to
do with infrastructure orchestration, the primary concern of today's heat
engine. I advocate (4), but as separate functionality.
Regards,
Mike
Alex Rudenko alexei.rude...@gmail.com wrote on 10/09/2013 12:59:22 PM:
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2013-10-09 08:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
In addition I want to add couple words about flexibility and debugging
capabilities. I believe it is quite important for HOT template engine to
control all aspects of deployment process execution including
I'm copying openstack-dev for posterity and because smarter people than me hang out there and might be able to answer any questions I can't. :-)
There are a couple of other dependencies you will need to install before the test cases will run successfully (I always forget because my development
Hi All,
Is the extra route extension always tied to the router extension or
can it live in a separate route-table container. If extra-route routes
are available in separate container then sharing of such
containers across networks is possible.
Another reason to remove the dependency would be
The Heat team holds a weekly meeting in #openstack-meeting, see
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The next meeting is on Wed Oct 9th at 2000 UTC
Current topics for discussion:
* Review last week's actions
* RC2 bug status
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Howdy ya'll!
==Who am I==
I'd like to also put myself up for the Technical Committee candidate position,
via one of the seats that are being made available.
I have been active with OpenStack since ~around~ diablo and have helped lead
the effort to 'marry' OpenStack and Y! in a way that
Updated the subject [neutron]
Hi All,
Is the extra route extension always tied to the router extension or
can it live in a separate route-table container. If extra-route routes
are available in separate container then sharing of such
containers across networks is possible.
Another reason to
Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote on 10/09/2013 05:24:38 AM:
So as has already been mentioned, Heat defines an internal workflow,
based
on the declarative model defined in the template.
The model should define dependencies, and Heat should convert those
dependencies into a workflow
Hi Rudra,
Some comments inline.
Regards,
Salvatore
Il 09/ott/2013 19:27 Rudra Rugge rru...@juniper.net ha scritto:
Updated the subject [neutron]
Hi All,
Is the extra route extension always tied to the router extension or
can it live in a separate route-table container. If extra-route
Hi folks,
We'll be having the Savanna team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt
channel.
*I would like to see all Savanna contributors to discuss talks for Design
Summit at this meeting.*
Agenda:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SavannaAgenda#Agenda_for_October.2C_3
Hi Lakshminaraya,
Thank you for bringing your use case and your thought here. That is exactly
tried to achieve in Murano project.
There are important aspects you highlighted. Sometime resource model is
two high level to describe deployment process. If you start to use more
granular approach to
Hello all,
Is anyone working on NATaaS?
I know we have some developer working on Router as a Service and they
probably want to include NAT functionality but I have some interest in
having NAT as a Service.
Please, response is somebody is interested in having some discussions about
it.
Thanks,
Correct links
Agenda:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SavannaAgenda#Agenda_for_October.2C_10
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Savanna+Meetingiso=20131010T18
Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.
On Oct 9, 2013, at 23:32, Sergey
Your example sounds a lot like what taskflow is build for doing.
https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/blob/master/taskflow/examples/calculate_in_parallel.py
is a decent example.
In that one, tasks are created and input/output dependencies are specified
(provides, rebind, and the execute
It seems to me that something is missing in our discussion.
If something depends on something else there must be a definition of that
something. It is clear that it is not the case that one instance depends on
another but one application depends on another application. But there is no
such thing
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - RD -
Corvallis) mark.m.mil...@hp.com wrote:
Hello,
I am attempting to test the Havana v3 OS-EP-FILTER extension with the
latest RC1 bits and I get a 404 error response.
The documentation actually shows 2 different URIs for this
Hi Rudra,
We tried to separate policy from mechanism for this blueprint, and are
trying to address the latter. I believe the logic for scaling, and or
clustering multiple service VMs to map to a logical service instance would
lie in the service plugin which realizes the logical service instance.
Adam,
Thank you for the reply. The extension document is pretty good. The
configuration instructions on the other hand need some help and I had to
combine information from multiple sources to get OS-EP-FILTERing up and
running. Following are the final steps that I used.
Mark
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Hi Harshad,
I agree with you that the service instance terminology might be a little
confusing here. The way it was phrased in the original email, I believe it
was meant to suggest an association with the corresponding Neutron logical
service (the XaaS to be precise).
That said (and to your
Thanks Bob, I agree this is an important aspect of the implementation.
However, apart from being able to specify which network(s) the VM has
interfaces on, what more needs to be done specifically in the proposed
library to achieve the tenant level isolation?
Thanks,
~Sumit.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013
On 10/9/2013 12:55 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
Your example sounds a lot like what taskflow is build for doing.
I'm not that familiar with Heat, so I wanted to bounce this off of
you before doing a public foot-in-mouth on the mailing list.
Is the real issue here the difference between
Hi Sumit,
I also got confused with service VM and service instance definition. I assumed
both being the same and hence the networks question.
Rudra
On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Sumit Naiksatam
sumitnaiksa...@gmail.commailto:sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Rudra,
We tried to separate
Hi Sumit,
Please see inline.
On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Sumit Naiksatam
sumitnaiksa...@gmail.commailto:sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Harshad,
I agree with you that the service instance terminology might be a little
confusing here. The way it was phrased in the original email, I
Hi,
The original use cases I called out include multiple service instances within a
single VM, but not your use case of a single logical service spread across
multiple VMs for scale-out. Have you identified requirements for these VMs
that might be specified within the scope of this blueprint?
Hi all,
I'd like to announce my candidacy for a seat on the OpenStack
Technical Committee.
- General background -
I have over 15 years of experience designing and building distributed
systems. I am currently a Principal Engineer at Rackspace, where
I have been for a little over 3 years now.
Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com wrote on 10/09/2013
03:37:01 PM:
From: Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: 10/09/2013 03:41 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software
Thanks for the clarification.
I'm not sure how much of heat has to change to support what you are aiming for.
Maybe heat should use taskflow ;)
From: Lakshminaraya Renganarayana
lren...@us.ibm.commailto:lren...@us.ibm.com
Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:34 PM
To: Joshua Harlow
Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.com wrote on 10/09/2013 04:07:33 PM:
It seems to me that something is missing in our discussion.
If something depends on something else there must be a definition of
that something. It is clear that it is not the case that one
instance depends on another but one
In an effort to better support the upcoming design summit the Infra
team will be upgrading etherpad.openstack.org at 1600UTC Sunday,
October 13. There will be a short time period where etherpads are
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Hi all,
The [state-management] project team holds a weekly meeting in
#openstack-meeting on thursdays, 2000 UTC. The next meeting is tomorrow,
2013-10-10!!!
As usual, everyone is welcome :-)
Link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StateManagement
Taskflow:
On 09/10/13 19:31 +0100, Steven Hardy wrote:
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 06:59:22PM +0200, Alex Rudenko wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've read this thread and I'd like to share some thoughts. In my opinion,
workflows (which run on VMs) can be integrated with heat templates as
follows:
1. workflow
+1. Thanks Monty, very good clarification and suggestion!
2013/10/9 Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com
+1
2013/10/8 Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com:
Hey!
Got a question on IRC which seemed fair game for a quick mailing list
post:
Q: I see both addCleanup and tearDown in nova's test
I'm interested in serving on the OpenStack TC.
# About me
I've been working on OpenStack for only a year now, since joining
Monty's merry gang of reprobateswink/ at HP. However I've been
entirely focused on networking and distributed systems since ~2000 -
having as highlights -core membership in
Aparna Datt aparna.cl...@gmail.com writes:
hi i was going through code of nova on github...but there are no readme
files available regarding code organization of nova. Can anyone provide me
with a link from where i can begin reading the code ? or if anyone can help
me by indicators on
Yes, there is more than the northbound API to discuss. Gary started us
there in the Scheduler chat on Oct 1, when he broke the issues down like
this:
11:12:22 AM garyk: 1. a user facing API
11:12:41 AM garyk: 2. understanding which resources need to be tracked
11:12:48 AM garyk: 3. backend
Debojyoti Dutta ddu...@gmail.com wrote on 10/09/2013 02:48:26 AM:
Mike, I agree we could have a cleaner API but I am not sure how
cleanly it will integrate with current nova which IMO should be test
we should pass (assuming we do cross services later)
I think the cleaner APIs integrate with
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