Re: [openstack-dev] Taking a break..

2014-10-23 Thread Sam Morrison
Thanks for all the help Chris and all the best. Now on the lookout for another cells core I can harass and pass obscure bugs too. It was always reassuring knowing you’d probably already come across the issue and could point me to a review or git branch with a fix. Cheers, Sam On 23 Oct

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API Workgroup git repository

2014-10-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:53:21 + Shaunak Kashyap shaunak.kash...@rackspace.com wrote: Thanks Chris. And am I correct in assuming that no weekly api-wg meetings are currently going on? I don’t see anything here anyway: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings. They haven't started yet. Not

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-23 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Dan Genin daniel.ge...@jhuapl.edu wrote: So then it is probably best to leave existing Cinder LVM code in lib/cinder_backends/lvm alone and create a similar set of lvm scripts for Nova, perhaps in lib/nova_backends/lvm? Dan On 10/21/2014 03:10 PM, Duncan

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: For LVM-thin I believe it is already disabled? It is only really needed on LVM-thick, where the returning zeros behaviour is not done. On 21 October 2014 08:29, Avishay Traeger avis...@stratoscale.com wrote: I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-23 Thread Tim Bell
-Original Message- From: Andrew Laski [mailto:andrew.la...@rackspace.com] Sent: 22 October 2014 21:12 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter On 10/22/2014 12:52 AM, Michael Still wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] proposed summit session topics

2014-10-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
Looks good, sorry for missing the meeting! On 10/22/2014 09:11 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: After today’s meeting, we have filled our seven session slots. Here’s the proposed list, in no particular order. If you think

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had several people ask recently about what this means for Oslo. Because we create libraries that will be used by stable versions of projects that still need to run on

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Doug, thanks for writing this up. Looking at your list, I created a patch and only changed oslo.log: https://review.openstack.org/130444 Please double check that I didn't miss anything, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Cinder] The sorry state of cinder's driver in Glance

2014-10-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/22/2014 04:46 PM, Zhi Yan Liu wrote: Replied in inline. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/22/2014 02:30 PM, Zhi Yan Liu wrote: Greetings, On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, Back in Havana

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-10-23 Thread henry hly
Hi Phil, Thanks for your feedback, and patience of this long history reading :) See comments inline. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: -Original Message- From: henry hly [mailto:henry4...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 October 2014 09:16 To: OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread Preston L. Bannister
John, As a (new) OpenStack developer, I just discovered the CINDER_SECURE_DELETE option. As an *implicit* default, I entirely approve. Production OpenStack installations should *absolutely* insure there is no information leakage from one instance to the next. As an *explicit* default, I am not

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally][users]: Synchronizing between multiple scenario instances.

2014-10-23 Thread Behzad Dastur (bdastur)
Hi Boris, I am still getting my feet wet with rally so some concepts are new, and did not quite get your statement regarding the different load generators. I am presuming you are referring to the Scenario runner and the different “types” of runs. What I was looking at is the runner, where we

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-10-23 Thread joehuang
Hi, Because I am not able to find a meeting room to have deep diving OpenStack cascading before design summit. You are welcome to have a f2f conversation about the cascading before design summit. I planned to stay at Paris from Oct.30 to Nov.8, if you have any doubt or question, please feel

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-23 Thread Alan Kavanagh
+1 many thanks to Kyle for putting this as a priority, its most welcome. /Alan -Original Message- From: Erik Moe [mailto:erik@ericsson.com] Sent: October-22-14 5:01 PM To: Steve Gordon; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: iawe...@cisco.com Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-23 Thread Maish Saidel-Keesing
Thanks for creating the page. I have added a section to it with information about Kosher restaurants as well. Well done and thank you for the invaluable information Maish On 14/10/2014 20:02, Anita Kuno wrote: On 10/14/2014 12:40 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 14/10/2014 18:29, Anita Kuno a

[openstack-dev] [Fuel][Fuel-library][CI] New voting gates for provision and master node smoke checks

2014-10-23 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
Hello. We have only one voting gate for changes submitted to fuel-library which checks deployment of Openstack nodes with Puppet manifests from fuel-library. But we must to check for two more important potential 'smoke sources': 1) Master node build: * nailgun::*_only classes - for docker

[openstack-dev] Error in ssh key pair log in

2014-10-23 Thread Khayam Gondal
I am trying to login into VM from host using ssh key pair instead of password. I have created VM using keypair *khayamkey* and than tried to login into vm using following command ssh -l tux -i khayamkey.pem 10.3.24.56 where *tux* is username for VM, but I got following error

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Backup of information about nodes.

2014-10-23 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 22 Oct 2014, at 21:03, Adam Lawson alaw...@aqorn.com wrote: What is current best practice to restore a failed Fuel node? It’s documented here: http://docs.mirantis.com/openstack/fuel/fuel-5.1/operations.html#restoring-fuel-master Regards, -- Tomasz 'Zen' Napierala Sr. OpenStack Engineer

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [qa] [oslo] Declarative HTTP Tests

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Dent
I've proposed a spec to Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129669/ for a suite of declarative HTTP tests that would be runnable both in gate check jobs and in local dev environments. There's been some discussion that this may be generally applicable and could be best served by a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Pluggable framework in Fuel: first prototype ready

2014-10-23 Thread Mike Scherbakov
1. I feel like we should not require user to unpack the plugin before installing it. Moreover, we may chose to distribute plugins in our own format, which we may potentially change later. E.g. lbaas-v2.0.fp. I'd rather stick with two actions: - Assembly (externally): fpb

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 23 October 2014 08:30, Preston L. Bannister pres...@bannister.us wrote: John, As a (new) OpenStack developer, I just discovered the CINDER_SECURE_DELETE option. As an *implicit* default, I entirely approve. Production OpenStack installations should *absolutely* insure there is no

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-23 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Hi! This is an interesting topic, I don't know if there's any way to target connection tracker rules by MAC, but that'd be the ideal solution. I also understand the RETURN for RELATED,ESTABLISHED is there for performance reasons, and removing it would lead to longer table evaluation, and

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [stable] Tool to aid in scalability problems mitigation.

2014-10-23 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Recently, we have identified clients with problems due to the bad scalability of security groups in Havana and Icehouse, that was addressed during juno here [1] [2] This situation is identified by blinking agents (going UP/DOWN), high AMQP load, nigh neutron-server load, and timeout

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-10-23 Thread joehuang
Hi, Phil, I am sorry that no enough information for you to understand the cascading in the document. If we can talk f2f, I can explain much more in detail. But in short, I will give a simplified picture how a virtual machine will be booted: The general process to boot a VM is like this: Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] proposed summit session topics

2014-10-23 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Oct 22 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: 2014-11-05 11:00 - Oslo graduation schedule 2014-11-05 11:50 - oslo.messaging 2014-11-05 13:50 - A Common Quota Management Library 2014-11-06 11:50 - taskflow 2014-11-06 13:40 - Using alpha versioning for Oslo libraries 2014-11-06 16:30 -

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-10-23 Thread Adam Young
On 10/09/2014 03:36 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 9 October 2014 07:49, henry hly henry4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joshua, ...in fact hierarchical scale depends on square of single child scale. If a single child can deal with 00's to 000's, cascading on it would then deal with 00,000's. That is

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] making Daneyon Hansen core

2014-10-23 Thread Jeff Peeler
On 10/22/2014 11:04 AM, Steven Dake wrote: A few weeks ago in IRC we discussed the criteria for joining the core team in Kolla. I believe Daneyon has met all of these requirements by reviewing patches along with the rest of the core team and providing valuable comments, as well as implementing

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/23/2014 08:56 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had several people ask recently about what this means for Oslo. Because we create libraries that will be used by stable

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-23 Thread Vadivel Poonathan
Kyle, Gentle reminder... when you get a chance!.. Anne, In case, if i need to send it to different group or email-id to reach Kyle Mestery, pls. let me know. Thanks for your help. Regards, Vad -- On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Vadivel Poonathan vadivel.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kyle,

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Preston L. Bannister pres...@bannister.us wrote: John, As a (new) OpenStack developer, I just discovered the CINDER_SECURE_DELETE option. As an *implicit* default, I entirely approve. Production OpenStack installations should *absolutely* insure there is

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Preston L. Bannister pres...@bannister.us wrote: John, As a (new) OpenStack developer, I just discovered the CINDER_SECURE_DELETE option. OHHH... Most importantly, I almost

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Fuel standards

2014-10-23 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
All, Recently we launched a couple new Fuel related projects (fuel_plugin_builder, fuel_agent, fuel_upgrade, etc.). Those projects are written in python and they use different approaches to organizing CLI, configuration, different third party libraries, etc. Besides, we have some old Fuel

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [oslo.db] model_query() future and neutron specifics

2014-10-23 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: As I’ve established oslo.db blueprints which will roll out new SQLAlchemy connectivity patterns for consuming applications within both API [1] and tests [2], one of the next big areas I’m to focus on is that of querying.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-23 Thread Kyle Mestery
Vad: The third-party CI is required for your upstream driver. I think what's different from my reading of this thread is the question of what is the requirement to have a driver listed in the upstream documentation which is not in the upstream codebase. To my knowledge, we haven't done this.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Pluggable framework in Fuel: first prototype ready

2014-10-23 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi Mike, I would like to add a bit more details about current implementation and how it can be done. *Implement installation as a scripts inside of tar ball:* Cons: * install script is really simple right now, but it will be much more complicated ** it requires to implement logic where we can

[openstack-dev] [Nova] questions on object/db usage

2014-10-23 Thread Chen CH Ji
Hi When I fix some bugs, I found that some code in nova/compute/api.py sometimes we use db ,sometimes we use objects do we have any criteria for it? I knew we can't access db in compute layer code, how about others ? prefer object or db direct access? thanks def

Re: [openstack-dev] [congress] kilo design session

2014-10-23 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Works for me. Tim P. S. Pardon the brevity. Sent from my mobile. On Oct 22, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Sean Roberts seanrobert...@gmail.com wrote: We are scheduled for Monday, 03 Nov, 14:30 - 16:00. I have a conflict with the “Meet the Influencers” talk that runs from 14:30-18:30, plus the GBP

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Fuel standards

2014-10-23 Thread Anton Zemlyanov
I have another example, nailgun and UI are bundled in FuelWeb being quite independent components. Nailgun is python REST API, while UI is HTML/CSS/JS + libs. I also support the idea making CLI a separate project, it is similar to FuelWeb UI, it uses the same REST API. Fuelclient lib is also good

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-23 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: Vad: The third-party CI is required for your upstream driver. I think what's different from my reading of this thread is the question of what is the requirement to have a driver listed in the upstream documentation

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Andrey Kurilin
Just a joke: Can we drop supporting Python 2.6, when several project still have hooks for Python 2.4? https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/exceptions.py#L195-L203 https://github.com/openstack/python-cinderclient/blob/master/cinderclient/exceptions.py#L147-L155 On

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 18:56 +0300, Andrey Kurilin wrote: Just a joke: Can we drop supporting Python 2.6, when several project still have hooks for Python 2.4? https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/exceptions.py#L195-L203

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-23 Thread Edgar Magana
I second Anne’s and Kyle comments. Actually, I like very much the wiki part to provide some visibility for out-of-tree plugins/drivers but not into the official documentation. Thanks, Edgar From: Anne Gentle a...@openstack.orgmailto:a...@openstack.org Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-23 Thread Edgar Magana
I forgot to mention that I can help to coordinate the creation and maintenance of the wiki for non-upstreamed drivers for Neutron. We need to be sure that we DO NOT confuse users with the current information here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron_Plugins_and_Drivers I have been

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-23 Thread Vadivel Poonathan
Hi Kyle and Anne, Thanks for the clarifications... understood and it makes sense. However, per my understanding, the drivers (aka plugins) are meant to be developed and supported by third-party vendors, outside of the OpenStack community, and they are supposed to work as plug-n-play... they are

[openstack-dev] [Keystone] python-keystoneclient release 0.11.2

2014-10-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
The Keystone team has released python-keystoneclient 0.11.2 [1]. This version includes a number of bug fixes. Details of new features and bug fixes included in the 0.11.2 release of python-keystoneclient can be found on the milestone information page [2]. [1]

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence prototyping

2014-10-23 Thread Zane Bitter
Hi folks, I've been looking at the convergence stuff, and become a bit concerned that we're more or less flying blind (or at least I have been) in trying to figure out the design, and also that some of the first implementation efforts seem to be around the stuff that is _most_ expensive to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-23 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 08:11 PM, Sam Morrison wrote: On 23 Oct 2014, at 5:55 am, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: While I agree that N is a bit interesting, I have seen N=3 in production [central API]--[state/region1]--[state/region DC1] \-[state/region

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] questions on object/db usage

2014-10-23 Thread Dan Smith
When I fix some bugs, I found that some code in nova/compute/api.py sometimes we use db ,sometimes we use objects do we have any criteria for it? I knew we can't access db in compute layer code, how about others ? prefer object or db direct access? thanks Prefer

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-23 Thread Vadivel Poonathan
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote: I forgot to mention that I can help to coordinate the creation and maintenance of the wiki for non-upstreamed drivers for Neutron. [vad] Edgar, that would be nice!... but not sure whether it has to wait till the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Pluggable framework in Fuel: first prototype ready

2014-10-23 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
Preventing plugin developers from implementing their own installer is a pro, not a con, you've already listed one reason in cons against install scripts inside plugin tarball: if we centralize plugin installation and management logic in fuel, we can change it once for all plugins and don't have to

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Lightning talks during the Design Summit!

2014-10-23 Thread Kyle Mestery
As discussed during the neutron-drivers meeting this week [1], we've going to use one of the Neutron 40 minute design summit slots for lightning talks. The basic idea is we will have 6 lightning talks, each 5 minutes long. We will force a 5 minute hard limit here. We'll do the lightning talk round

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-23 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
If you exec conntrack inside the namespace with ip netns exec does it still show both connections? Vish On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:22 AM, Elena Ezhova eezh...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi! I am working on a bug ping still working once connected even after related security group rule is deleted

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [qa] [oslo] Declarative HTTP Tests

2014-10-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 23, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: I've proposed a spec to Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129669/ for a suite of declarative HTTP tests that would be runnable both in gate check jobs and in local dev environments. There's been some

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:56 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had several people ask recently about what this means for Oslo. Because we create libraries that

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 18:56 +0300, Andrey Kurilin wrote: Just a joke: Can we drop supporting Python 2.6, when several project still have hooks for Python 2.4?

[openstack-dev] [poppy] Summit Design Session Planning

2014-10-23 Thread Amit Gandhi
Hi The summit planning etherpad [0] is now available to continue discussion topics for the Poppy design session in Paris (to be held on Tuesday Nov 4th, at 2pm) The planning etherpad will be kept open until next Thursday, during which we will finalize what will be discussed during the Poppy

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-23 Thread David Lyle
In order to help ease an ongoing struggle with session size limit issues, Horizon is planning on changing the default session store from signed cookie to simple server side session storage using sqlite. The size limit for cookie based sessions is 4K and when this value is overrun, the result is

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread Preston L. Bannister
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:51 AM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Preston L. Bannister pres...@bannister.us wrote: John, As a (new) OpenStack developer, I just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Error in ssh key pair log in

2014-10-23 Thread Patil, Tushar
Hi Khayam, Read below warning message carefully. Open /home/openstack/.ssh/known_hosts file from where you are trying to connect to the VM, delete line #1 and try it again. TP From: Khayam Gondal khayam.gon...@gmail.commailto:khayam.gon...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 2:32 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-23 Thread Gabriel Hurley
All in all this is been a long time coming. The cookie-based option was useful as a batteries-included, simplest-case scenario. Moving to SQLite is a reasonable second choice since most systems Horizon might be deployed on support sqlite out of the box. I would make a couple notes: 1)

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-23 Thread Ian Wells
There are two categories of problems: 1. some networks don't pass VLAN tagged traffic, and it's impossible to detect this from the API 2. it's not possible to pass traffic from multiple networks to one port on one machine as (e.g.) VLAN tagged traffic (1) is addressed by the VLAN trunking

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 17:19 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: I’m not aware of any Oslo code that presents a problem for those plugins. We wouldn’t want to cause a problem, but as you say, we don’t have anywhere to test 2.4 code. Do you know if the Xen driver uses any of the Oslo code? I missed the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [stable] Tool to aid in scalability problems mitigation.

2014-10-23 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Hi Miguel, while we'd need to hear from the stable team, I think it's not such a bad idea to make this tool available to users of pre-juno openstack releases. As far as upstream repos are concerned, I don't know if this tool violates the criteria for stable branches. Even if it would be a rather

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Preston L. Bannister pres...@bannister.us wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:51 AM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Preston L.

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread Preston L. Bannister
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: The debate about whether to wipe LV's pretty much massively depends on the intelligence of the underlying store. If the lower level storage never returns accidental information ... explicit zeroes are not needed.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-23 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey German/Susanne, To continue our conversation from our IRC meeting could you all provide more insight into you usage requirements? Also, I'd like to clarify a few points related to using logging. I am advocating that logs be used for multiple purposes, including billing. Billing requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][nova] Are disk-intensive operations managed ... or not?

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Friesen
On 10/23/2014 04:24 PM, Preston L. Bannister wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com mailto:john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: The debate about whether to wipe LV's pretty much massively depends on the intelligence of the underlying store. If

[openstack-dev] [api] Networking API Create network missing Request parameters

2014-10-23 Thread Danny Choi (dannchoi)
Hi, In neutron, user with “admin” role can specify the provider network parameters when creating a network. —provider:network_type —provider:physical_network —provider:segmentation_id localadmin@qa4:~/devstack$ neutron net-create test-network --provider:network_type vlan

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Networking API Create network missing Request parameters

2014-10-23 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On 2014-10-23 7:00 PM, Danny Choi (dannchoi) wrote: In neutron, user with “admin” role can specify the provider network parameters when creating a network. —provider:network_type —provider:physical_network —provider:segmentation_id localadmin@qa4:~/devstack$ neutron net-create test-network

[openstack-dev] [Nova] [Summit] proposed item for the crossproject and/ or Nova meetings in the Design summit

2014-10-23 Thread Elzur, Uri
Today, OpenStack makes placement decision mainly based on Compute demands (Scheduler is part of Nova). It also uses some info provided about platform's Compute capabilities. But for a given application (consists of some VMs, some Network appliances, some storage etc), Nova/Scheduler has no way

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-10-23 17:18:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I think we have to actually wait for M, don’t we (K L represents 1 year where J is supported, M is the first release where J is not supported and 2.6 can be fully dropped). [...] Roughly speaking, probably. It's more accurate to say

[openstack-dev] Deprecation of Python 2.6 CI Testing

2014-10-23 Thread Clark Boylan
Hello, At the Atlanta summit there was a session on removing python2.6 testing/support from the OpenStack Kilo release [0]. The Infra team is working on enacting this change in the near future. The way that this will work is python26 jobs will be removed from running on master and feature

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Summit] proposed item for the crossproject and/ or Nova meetings in the Design summit

2014-10-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/23/2014 07:57 PM, Elzur, Uri wrote: Today, OpenStack makes placement decision mainly based on Compute demands (Scheduler is part of Nova). It also uses some info provided about platform’s Compute capabilities. But for a given application (consists of some VMs, some Network appliances, some

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Networking API Create network missing Request parameters

2014-10-23 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Mathieu Gagné mga...@iweb.com wrote: On 2014-10-23 7:00 PM, Danny Choi (dannchoi) wrote: In neutron, user with “admin” role can specify the provider network parameters when creating a network. —provider:network_type —provider:physical_network

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-23 Thread Brian Haley
On 10/23/14 6:22 AM, Elena Ezhova wrote: Hi! I am working on a bug ping still working once connected even after related security group rule is deleted (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1335375). The gist of the problem is the following: when we delete a security group rule the

[openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-23 Thread Angus Salkeld
Hi all I have felt some grumblings about usability issues with Heat templates/client/etc.. and wanted a way that users could come and give us feedback easily (low barrier). I started an etherpad ( https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-useablity-improvements) - the first win is it is spelt wrong