Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Updates from the Summit

2015-05-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Please add it Gorka. thanks, dims On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Gorka Eguileor gegui...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 08:47:42AM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Hi Team, Here are the etherpads from the summit[1]. I remember that in Taskflow's Fishbowl session we discussed

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Updates from the Summit

2015-05-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
to kombu? Cheers, Flavio My 2 cents :-P [1] https://github.com/ask -Josh Davanum Srinivas wrote: Hi Team, Here are the etherpads from the summit[1]. Some highlights are as follows: Oslo.messaging : Took status of the existing zmq driver, proposed a new driver in parallel

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][oslo] Stepping down from oslo-ironic liaison

2015-05-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
) is the Nova liaison for Oslo, not Joe Goron. I don't understand. Victor Le 27/05/2015 20:44, Joe Gordon a écrit : On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com mailto:dava...@gmail.com wrote: Victor, Nice, yes, Joe was the liaison with Nova so far. Yes

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Updates from the Summit

2015-05-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Flavio, yay! :) -- dims On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 28/05/15 07:34 -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Flavio, PIka is an unknown quantity at the moment as none of us have touched it. It was brought up by rabbitmq folks. So someone should look

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][oslo] Stepping down from oslo-ironic liaison

2015-05-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Thanks Doug! On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2015-05-28 06:02:24 -0400: That's right. The oslo team is OK with the liaison to other teams not being a core reviewer. I've updated the wiki

[openstack-dev] [nova-docker] Looking for volunteers to take care of nova-docker

2015-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][oslo] Stepping down from oslo-ironic liaison

2015-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][oslo] Stepping down from oslo-ironic liaison

2015-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] [oslo] Updates from the Summit

2015-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
, deprecation strategies and debated a but about how best to move to async models as well. Please see etherpads for detailed information. thanks, dims [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Liberty/Etherpads#Oslo -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.vmware release 0.13.0 (liberty)

2015-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
broke the semver but we can also consider this patch as an option. Thanks Sabari On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: Vipin, Gary, Can you please accept the revert or figure out the best way to handle this? thanks, dims On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker] Looking for volunteers to take care of nova-docker

2015-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
, but this would be my first time contributing). Thanks. Bich Le Platform9 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:48 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So the feedback during the Vancouver summit from some of the nova cores was that, we needed volunteers to take care of the nova-docker

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Updates from the Summit

2015-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
'greener pasture' imho should be done without all of this, to avoid pissing off the two [kombu, pika] communities). My 2 cents :-P [1] https://github.com/ask -Josh Davanum Srinivas wrote: Hi Team, Here are the etherpads from the summit[1]. Some highlights are as follows: Oslo.messaging

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] Next step

2015-05-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] oslo.log release 1.2.0 (liberty)

2015-05-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.vmware release 0.13.0 (liberty)

2015-05-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Vipin, Gary, Can you please accept the revert or figure out the best way to handle this? thanks, dims On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 5/26/2015 4:19 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 5/26/2015 9:53 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: We

[openstack-dev] oslo.vmware release 0.13.0 (liberty)

2015-05-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] oslo.messaging release 1.11.0 (liberty)

2015-05-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
-requirements-py3.txt b/test-requirements-py3.txt index 22b4c4e..71fe497 100644 --- a/test-requirements-py3.txt +++ b/test-requirements-py3.txt @@ -19,0 +20,3 @@ redis=2.10.0 +# for test_impl_zmq +pyzmq=14.3.1 # LGPL+BSD + -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims

[openstack-dev] [oslo] No meeting today

2015-05-25 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Hi all, Sorry for the late notice, since it is a US holiday and we all just met last week at the summit. Let's skip today's meeting and talk next week. thanks, dims -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][oslo] Stepping down from oslo-ironic liaison

2015-05-25 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][service] oslo.service puplic repositiry review request

2015-05-22 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Changes to oslo.log section of Oslo Wiki page for source repo and bug reporting

2015-05-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] needed, driver for oslo.db thursday session

2015-05-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
of the 2 choices there (either sip or google hangout) and drop a note in the etherpad which one you want me to connect to thanks, dims On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-05-19 09:06:56 -0700 (-0700), Davanum Srinivas wrote: Ouch. Thanks for the heads

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Inviting Robert Collins to Oslo core

2015-05-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] needed, driver for oslo.db thursday session

2015-05-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] needed, driver for oslo.db thursday session

2015-05-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker] Status update

2015-05-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder][neutron][security] Rootwrap discussions at OSSG mid-cycle

2015-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker] [magnum] [nova] Returning nova-docker to Nova Tree

2015-05-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo] disabling pypy unit test jobs for oslo

2015-05-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo] disabling pypy unit test jobs for oslo

2015-05-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
is apparently not keeping up with upstream tooling changes. -Sean On 05/11/2015 06:50 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: requirements jobs are stuck as well :( http://logs.openstack.org/30/170830/6/check/gate-requirements-pypy/732dc33/console.html#_2015-05-11_01_25_22_506 -- dims On Mon

[openstack-dev] Who is using nova-docker? (Re: [nova-docker] Status update)

2015-05-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] [oslo] Adding Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) to oslo-core

2015-05-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Dear Oslo folks, I'd like to propose adding Mehdi Abaakouk to oslo-core. He is already leading the oslo.messaging team and helping with Tooz, and futurist efforts. I am hoping to get Mehdi more involved across the board in Oslo. Thanks, Dims -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] MultiStrOpt VS. ListOpt

2015-05-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Adding Joshua Harlow to oslo-core

2015-05-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] [all] Sign up for oslo liaisons for liberty cycle

2015-05-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] pbr-release includes oslo-core?

2015-05-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] regular releases, and path to 1.0

2015-05-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] [nova-docker] Status update

2015-05-01 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal to add Melanie Witt to nova-core

2015-04-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Who is allowed to vote for TC candidates

2015-04-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] [Murano] Congress devstack installation is failing in murano gate job

2015-04-29 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] [Murano] Congress devstack installation is failing in murano gate job

2015-04-29 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Perfect. thanks Ruslan. -- dims On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Ruslan Kamaldinov rkamaldi...@mirantis.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: So, summarizing some chatter on #openstack-dev: Action item for unblocking the gate job: 1. Remove

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] [Murano] Congress devstack installation is failing in murano gate job

2015-04-29 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] Improving OpenStack documentation around RabbitMQ

2015-04-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Proposal for Madhuri Kumari to join Core Team

2015-04-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] docker with Juno devstack

2015-04-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposed Liberty release schedule

2015-04-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] So... why exactly? Was: [magnum] Discovery Mechanism For Swarm Bay

2015-04-16 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add request_utils module in oslo-incubator

2015-04-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] VMware CI

2015-04-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] [Oslo] Common Libraries PTL Candidacy

2015-04-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Hi Everyone, After shadowing Doug for a while, It's going to be a really hard job filling Doug's shoes. I am very thankful and very glad we had him so long to guide us. I'd like to continue his good work going forward. We've achieved a lot last couple of cycles, and the proof is the almost empty

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] not running for PTL for liberty cycle

2015-04-03 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] meaning of 'Triaged' in bug tracker

2015-03-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo][TaskFlow] Proposal for new core reviewer (min pae)

2015-03-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Liberty specs are now open

2015-03-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config][kolla] modular backends for oslo.cfg

2015-03-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency runtime dependency on fixtures/testtools

2015-03-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] Deprecation warnings considered harmful?

2015-03-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [all][qa][gabbi][rally][tempest] Extend rally verfiy to unify work with Gabbi, Tempest and all in-tree functional tests

2015-03-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] oslo.config 1.9.2 release

2015-03-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Do No Evil

2015-03-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ec2-api] Functional tests for EC2-API in nova

2015-03-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] Ideas about Openstack Cinder for GSOC 2015

2015-02-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][openstackclient] transferring maintenance of cliff to the OpenStack client team

2015-02-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to the move! On Feb 26, 2015 6:43 PM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 02/26/2015 03:57 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The team behind the unified command line tool is preparing to ask the TC to allow us to become an official team. The openstack/python-openstackclient repository will

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo] Dealing with database connection sharing issues

2015-02-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Propose removing Dmitry Guryanov from magnum-core

2015-02-17 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Scheduling for Magnum

2015-02-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][project-config][oslo.messaging] Pre-driver requirements split-up initiative

2015-02-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] stuck patches at the nova IRC meeting

2015-02-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] Finding people to work on the EC2 API in Nova

2015-02-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Alexandre, Randy, Are there plans afoot to add support to switch on stackforge/ec2-api in devstack? add tempest tests etc? CI Would go a long way in alleviating concerns i think. thanks, dims On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Bias, Randy randy.b...@emc.com wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Logging interactions of libvirt + QEMU in Nova

2015-02-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Logging interactions of libvirt + QEMU in Nova

2015-02-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Daniel, The last tip on this page possibly? http://wiki.stoney-cloud.org/wiki/Debugging_Qemu -- dims On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 11:15:18AM -0500, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Daniel, Kashyap, One question that came up

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][nova][cinder] removing request_utils from oslo-incubator

2015-02-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] Finding people to work on the EC2 API in Nova

2015-01-31 Thread Davanum Srinivas
regards, Alex Levine On 1/31/15 2:21 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Alexandre, Randy, Are there plans afoot to add support to switch on stackforge/ec2-api in devstack? add tempest tests etc? CI Would go a long way in alleviating concerns i think. thanks, dims On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:24

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] Finding people to work on the EC2 API in Nova

2015-01-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Proposed Changes to Magnum Core

2015-01-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] oslo_log/oslo_config initialization

2015-01-22 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Qiming, you are reading bits and pieces of my responses.if you checkout the review guess i give up! -- dims On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:55:37AM -0500, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Qiming, Guessing you were looking

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo_log/oslo_config initialization

2015-01-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
file a review with what you have, maybe we can help, again, pop onto the #openstack-oslo channel to ask -- dims On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 08:25:57AM -0500, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Qiming, Nova already uses oslo.config

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo_log/oslo_config initialization

2015-01-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] How to debug test cases in Openstack

2015-01-16 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][python-clients] More freedom for all python clients

2015-01-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Test failures due to oslo_concurrency?

2015-01-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dropping namespace packages

2015-01-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Proposed Changes to Magnum Core

2015-01-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me. Welcome Jay! On Jan 2, 2015 7:02 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Magnum Cores, I propose the following addition to the Magnum Core group[1]: + Jay Lau (jay-lau-513) Please let me know your votes by replying to this message. Thanks, Adrian [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Proposed Changes to Magnum Core

2014-12-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 welcome! On Dec 26, 2014 3:48 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Magnum Cores, I propose the following addition to the Magnum Core group[1]: + Motohiro/Yuanying Otsuka (ootsuka) Please let me know your votes by replying to this message. Thanks, Adrian [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-*client] py33 jobs seem to be failing

2014-12-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] - Revert change of default ephemeral fs to ext4

2014-12-16 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 'SetuptoolsVersion' object does not support indexing 2014-12-14 12:38:38.563 |

2014-12-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] deprecation 'pattern' library??

2014-12-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
me think of loanshark :) -- Julien Danjou -- Free Software hacker -- http://julien.danjou.info ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Davanum

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docker][containers][qa] nova-docker CI failing a lot on unrelated nova patches

2014-12-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] Remove XML support from Nova API

2014-12-08 Thread Davanum Srinivas
. thanks, dims [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:nuke-xml,n,z -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] [PTL] Cascading vs. Cells – summit recap and move forward

2014-12-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] global or per-project specific ssl config options, or both?

2014-12-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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[openstack-dev] oslo.utils 1.1.0 released

2014-12-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
-oslosphinx=2.2.0.0a2 +sphinx=1.1.2,!=1.2.0,!=1.3b1,1.3 +oslosphinx=2.2.0 # Apache-2.0 -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman

[openstack-dev] oslo.i18n 1.1.0 released

2014-12-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
@@ hacking=0.9.2,0.10 -sphinx=1.1.2,!=1.2.0,1.3 -oslosphinx=2.2.0.0a2 +sphinx=1.1.2,!=1.2.0,!=1.3b1,1.3 +oslosphinx=2.2.0 # Apache-2.0 @@ -6 +9,2 @@ oslosphinx=2.2.0.0a2 -oslotest=1.1.0.0a1 +oslotest=1.2.0 # Apache-2.0 +coverage=3.6 -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims

[openstack-dev] oslo.vmware 0.8.0 released

2014-12-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+++ b/test-requirements.txt @@ -7 +7 @@ hacking=0.9.2,0.10 -pylint==0.25.2 +pylint=1.3.0 # GNU GPL v2 @@ -16 +16 @@ testscenarios=0.4 -testtools=0.9.36 +testtools=0.9.36,!=1.2.0 -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate call for reviews

2014-11-29 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] scheduling a review day

2014-11-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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