Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-09 Thread Jay Dobies
On 12/06/2013 09:39 PM, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Thanks for the comments and questions! I fully expect that this list of requirements will need to be fleshed out, refined, and heavily modified, so the more the merrier. Comments inline: *** Requirements are assumed to be targeted for

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-09 Thread Jay Dobies
So the question is are we looking at /nodes/ that have a /current role/, or are we looking at /roles/ that have some /current nodes/. My contention is that the role is the interesting thing, and the nodes is the incidental thing. That is, as a sysadmin, my hierarchy of concerns is something

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][TripleO] Nested resources

2013-12-06 Thread Jay Dobies
Along the same lines and while we're talking crazy ideas, one use case where a user might want to allocate entire nodes would be if TripleO were used to manage an ARM rack. The use cases aren't identical between cloud and ARM, but they are similar. So for a rack of 1000 nodes, there is

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Questions around Development Process

2013-12-06 Thread Jay Dobies
a) Because we're essentially doing a tear-down and re-build of the whole architecture (a lot of the concepts in tuskar will simply disappear), it's difficult to do small incremental patches that support existing functionality. Is it okay to have patches that break functionality? Are there good

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-06 Thread Jay Dobies
On 12/06/2013 12:26 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-03 23:12:39 -0800: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-06 Thread Jay Dobies
Disclaimer: I'm very new to the project, so apologies if some of my questions have been already answered or flat out don't make sense. As I proofread, some of my comments may drift a bit past basic requirements, so feel free to tell me to take certain questions out of this thread into

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] capturing build details in images

2013-12-05 Thread Jay Dobies
On 12/05/2013 08:38 AM, James Slagle wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: This is a follow up to https://review.openstack.org/59621 to get broader discussion.. So at the moment we capture a bunch of details in the image - what parameters the

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