[openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] Meeting minutes, and Next Steps/new meeting time.

2014-02-20 Thread Jesse Noller
Hi Everyone; Our first python-openstack meeting was awesome: and I really want to thank everyone who came, and for Doug teaching me the meeting bot :) Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-02-19-19.01.html Minutes

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] First meeting scheduled

2014-02-12 Thread Jesse Noller
On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Ed Leafe e...@openstack.org wrote: On Feb 11, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: I did propose in the original thread that we join efforts: in fact, we already have a fully functioning, unified SDK that *could* be checked

Re: [openstack-dev] Interested in attracting new contributors?

2014-02-12 Thread Jesse Noller
On Feb 12, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Julie Pichon jpic...@redhat.com wrote: Hi folks, Stefano's post on how to make contributions to OpenStack easier [1] finally stirred me into writing about something that vkmc and myself have been doing on the side for a few months to help new contributors to

[openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] First meeting scheduled

2014-02-11 Thread Jesse Noller
As I said last week; we’re ready to kickoff and have regular meetings for the “unified python SDK” project. The initial meeting is scheduled on the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#python-openstacksdk_Meeting Date/Time: Feb. 19th - 19:00 UTC / 1pm CST IRC channel:

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] First meeting scheduled

2014-02-11 Thread Jesse Noller
/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/master/openstack/common/apiclient Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: As I said last week; we’re ready to kickoff and have regular meetings for the “unified python SDK” project

Re: [openstack-dev] Asynchrounous programming: replace eventlet with asyncio

2014-02-07 Thread Jesse Noller
On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:51 AM, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1 To give an example as to why eventlet implicit monkey patch the world isn't especially great (although it's what we are currently using

Re: [openstack-dev] Asynchrounous programming: replace eventlet with asyncio

2014-02-07 Thread Jesse Noller
On Feb 7, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: On Feb 7, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: It seems that baking concurrency models into the individual clients / services adds some opinionated choices that may not scale, or fit

[openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] Initial meeting scheduling

2014-02-07 Thread Jesse Noller
Hi Everyone: Circling back to the client tools / SDK discussion - we’ve gotten a critical mass of people involved/interesting in the unified/common SDK back end for application developers and other end-users. From the wiki page: This is a proposed OpenStack project that is

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] Initial meeting scheduling

2014-02-07 Thread Jesse Noller
On Feb 7, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Circling back to the client tools / SDK discussion - we’ve gotten a critical mass of people involved

Re: [openstack-dev] Ugly Hack to deal with multiple versions

2014-02-04 Thread Jesse Noller
On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/05/2014 01:09 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: Can you be more specific about what goes wrong here? I'm not entirely sure I understand why

Re: [openstack-dev] Ugly Hack to deal with multiple versions

2014-02-04 Thread Jesse Noller
On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/05/2014 01:50 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/05/2014 01:09 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Upstream help needed (django-compressor)

2014-01-24 Thread Jesse Noller
Hi All; Jannis Leidel, author of Django-Compressor which Horizon relies on recently sent out a message saying that he needs help maintaining/releasing django_compressor: https://twitter.com/jezdez/status/423559915660382209 If we have people willing to help upstream dependencies, this would be

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-21 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.commailto:rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: On 17 Jan 2014, at 22:00, Jamie Lennox jamielen...@redhat.commailto:jamielen...@redhat.com wrote: (I don't buy the problem with large amounts of dependencies, if you have a meta-package

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-21 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Alexei Kornienko alexei.kornie...@gmail.commailto:alexei.kornie...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I would like to end this requirements talk cause it doesn't make any sense in term of python clients. Initially the discussion was about many clients projects with separate

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-21 Thread Jesse Noller
and user story. 2014/1/21 Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.commailto:jesse.nol...@rackspace.com On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Alexei Kornienko alexei.kornie...@gmail.commailto:alexei.kornie...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I would like to end this requirements talk cause it doesn't make any sense

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-19 Thread Jesse Noller
, at 4:06 PM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.commailto:jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.commailto:rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: Since it’s pretty easy to get lost among all the opinions I’d like

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-18 Thread Jesse Noller
:58 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.iomailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.commailto:jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: On Jan 16

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-18 Thread Jesse Noller
wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: Since it’s pretty easy to get lost among all the opinions I’d like to clarify/ask a couple of things

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:09 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 15/01/14 21:35 +, Jesse Noller wrote: On Jan 15, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: Several people have mentioned to me that they are interested in, or actively working

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Chris Jones c...@tenshu.netmailto:c...@tenshu.net wrote: Hi Once a common library is in place, is there any intention to (or resistance against) collapsing the clients into a single project or even a single command (a la busybox)? (I'm thinking reduced load for

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.commailto:chmo...@enovance.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Chris Jones c...@tenshu.netmailto:c...@tenshu.net wrote: Once a common library is in place, is there any intention to (or resistance against) collapsing the

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.commailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.commailto:jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.commailto:chmo

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Justin Hammond justin.hamm...@rackspace.commailto:justin.hamm...@rackspace.com wrote: I'm not sure if it was said, but which httplib using being used (urllib3 maybe?). Also I noticed many people were talking about supporting auth properly, but are there any

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Alexei Kornienko alexei.kornie...@gmail.commailto:alexei.kornie...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/16/2014 05:25 PM, Jesse Noller wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.commailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Mark Washenberger mark.washenber...@markwash.netmailto:mark.washenber...@markwash.net wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.commailto:dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.commailto:rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 13:06, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.commailto:jesse.nol...@rackspace.com wrote: Since it’s pretty easy to get lost among all the opinions I’d like to clarify/ask

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Jesse Noller
progressing work on a blueprint that doesn't fully capture the design and I'd like to avoid that. Renat On 16 Jan 2014, at 18:09, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.iomailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.commailto:jesse.nol...@rackspace.com

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-15 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 15, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: Several people have mentioned to me that they are interested in, or actively working on, code related to a common client library -- something meant to be reused directly as a basis for creating a common library

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-15 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 15, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.commailto:rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: Great idea, fully support it. We’re interested in that too. One specific thing that was mentioned is the ability to mock auth service seems to be very useful for some test scenarios, we

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-15 Thread Jesse Noller
On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: Several people have mentioned to me that they are

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-21 Thread Jesse Noller
On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions (especially the ones that affect multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-21 Thread Jesse Noller
On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 2013-11-21 10:20, Jesse Noller wrote: On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account