Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-08 Thread Kendall Nelson
I've been slowly working on building out and adding to the documentation about how to do things, but I can make that my top priority so that you all have a little more guidance. I'll try to get some patches out in the next week or so. Storyboard seems complicated but I think most of the mental

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-08 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/8/2018 1:03 PM, Jay S Bryant wrote: Helps if I include the link to the video: https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/storyboard-101-survival-guide-to-the-great-migration Hope that helps. Yeah I linked to that in my original email - that's about the migration, not usage. I want

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-08 Thread Jay S Bryant
On 6/7/2018 5:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 6/7/2018 3:25 PM, Kendall Nelson wrote: I know it doesn't fit the shiny user facing docket that was discussed at the Forum, but I do think its time we make migration official in some capacity as a release goal or some other way. Having migrated

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-08 Thread Jay S Bryant
On 6/7/2018 5:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 6/7/2018 3:25 PM, Kendall Nelson wrote: I know it doesn't fit the shiny user facing docket that was discussed at the Forum, but I do think its time we make migration official in some capacity as a release goal or some other way. Having migrated

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-08 Thread Rico Lin
Sean McGinnis 於 2018年6月5日 週二 上午2:07寫道: > > Python 3 First > == > > One of the things brought up in the session was picking things that bring > excitement and are obvious benefits to deployers and users of OpenStack > services. While this one is maybe not as immediately obvious, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-08 Thread Rico Lin
Matt Riedemann 於 2018年6月8日 週五 上午6:49寫道: > I haven't used it much, but it would be really nice if someone could > record a modern 'how to storyboard' video for just basic usage/flows > since most people are used to launchpad by now so dealing with an > entirely new task tracker is not trivial (or

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-08 Thread Rico Lin
Kendall Nelson 於 2018年6月8日 週五 上午4:26寫道: > > I think that these two goals definitely fit the criteria we discussed in Vancouver during the S Release Goal Forum Session. I know Storyboard Migration was also mentioned after I had to dip out to another session so I wanted to follow up on that. > +1.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-07 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/7/2018 3:25 PM, Kendall Nelson wrote: I know it doesn't fit the shiny user facing docket that was discussed at the Forum, but I do think its time we make migration official in some capacity as a release goal or some other way. Having migrated Ironic and having TripleO on the schedule for

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-07 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-06-07 14:19:41 -0700 (-0700), Clark Boylan wrote: [...] > We stopped following latest Ubuntu when they dropped non LTS > support to 9 months. What we do have are suse tumbleweed images > which should get us brand new everything in a rolling fashion. If > people are interested in this type

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-07 Thread Clark Boylan
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 06/04/2018 08:59 PM, Ivan Kolodyazhny wrote: > > I hope we'll have Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on our gates for this activity soon. > > It becomes > > important not only for developers but for operators and vendors too. > > By the time the project

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/04/2018 08:59 PM, Ivan Kolodyazhny wrote: > I hope we'll have Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on our gates for this activity soon. > It becomes > important not only for developers but for operators and vendors too. By the time the project will be gating on Python 3.6, most likely there's going to be 3.7

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-07 Thread Kendall Nelson
Hello :) I think that these two goals definitely fit the criteria we discussed in Vancouver during the S Release Goal Forum Session. I know Storyboard Migration was also mentioned after I had to dip out to another session so I wanted to follow up on that. I know it doesn't fit the shiny user

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-07 Thread Sean McGinnis
On 06/07/2018 09:39 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 6/5/2018 9:14 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: In the past when we've had questions about how broadly a goal is going to affect projects, we did a little data collection work up front. Maybe that's the next step for this one? Does someone want to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-07 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/5/2018 9:14 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: In the past when we've had questions about how broadly a goal is going to affect projects, we did a little data collection work up front. Maybe that's the next step for this one? Does someone want to volunteer to go around and talk to some of the project

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Sean McGinnis's message of 2018-06-05 07:26:27 -0500: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 06:44:15PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > On 6/4/2018 5:13 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: > > > Yes, exactly what I meant by the NOOP. I'm not sure what Cinder would > > > check here. We don't have to see if

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-05 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 06:44:15PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 6/4/2018 5:13 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: > > Yes, exactly what I meant by the NOOP. I'm not sure what Cinder would > > check here. We don't have to see if placement has been set up or if cell0 > > has been configured. Maybe once we

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/4/2018 5:13 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: Yes, exactly what I meant by the NOOP. I'm not sure what Cinder would check here. We don't have to see if placement has been set up or if cell0 has been configured. Maybe once we have the facility in place we would find some things worth checking, but at

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Sean McGinnis
Adding back the openstack-operators list that Matt added. On 06/04/2018 05:13 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: On 06/04/2018 04:17 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2018-06-04 15:38:48 -0500: On 6/4/2018 1:07 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: Python 3 First ==

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Sean McGinnis
On 06/04/2018 04:17 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2018-06-04 15:38:48 -0500: On 6/4/2018 1:07 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: Python 3 First == One of the things brought up in the session was picking things that bring excitement and are obvious

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2018-06-04 15:38:48 -0500: > On 6/4/2018 1:07 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: > > Python 3 First > > == > > > > One of the things brought up in the session was picking things that bring > > excitement and are obvious benefits to deployers and users

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Matt Riedemann
+openstack-operators since we need to have more operator feedback in our community-wide goals decisions. +Melvin as my elected user committee person for the same reasons as adding operators into the discussion. On 6/4/2018 3:38 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 6/4/2018 1:07 PM, Sean McGinnis

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/4/2018 1:07 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: Python 3 First == One of the things brought up in the session was picking things that bring excitement and are obvious benefits to deployers and users of OpenStack services. While this one is maybe not as immediately obvious, I think this is

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Ivan Kolodyazhny
Hi Sean, These goals look reasonable for me. On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:07 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This is to continue the discussion of the goal selection for the Stein > release. > I had previously sent out a recap of our discussion at the Forum here: > >

[openstack-dev] [TC] Stein Goal Selection

2018-06-04 Thread Sean McGinnis
Hi everyone, This is to continue the discussion of the goal selection for the Stein release. I had previously sent out a recap of our discussion at the Forum here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130999.html Now we need to actually narrow things down and pick a