Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-11 Thread Martin Millnert
On Mon, 2015-11-09 at 10:19 -0500, Adam Young wrote: > I personally like Java, but feel like we should focus on limiting the > number of languages we need to understand in order to Do OpenStack > development. That's a quite useful datapoint to collect in surveys: How many languages are your

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-11 Thread Fox, Kevin M
[mar...@millnert.se] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:22 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted On Mon, 2015-11-09 at 10:19 -0500, Adam Young wrote: > I personally like Java, but feel l

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: > I do wonder what the cause of varying quality is in the distros. I do > understand that some distros aren't licensing the test suite. But they > are all building from the same upstream. Except that they all use significant (and different) patchsets on top of that "same

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/09/2015 06:05 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > So that is an important point. While there is "the Oracle JVM", there is > nothing like "OpenJDK". There are a number of OpenJDK builds by various > distros and they are all different (and of varying quality). The beast > is brittle, as anyone who

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-09 Thread Adam Young
On 11/09/2015 09:46 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sean Dague wrote: I do wonder what the cause of varying quality is in the distros. I do understand that some distros aren't licensing the test suite. But they are all building from the same upstream. Except that they all use significant (and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-09 Thread Joshua Harlow
Adam Young wrote: On 11/09/2015 09:46 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sean Dague wrote: I do wonder what the cause of varying quality is in the distros. I do understand that some distros aren't licensing the test suite. But they are all building from the same upstream. Except that they all use

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-09 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sean Dague wrote: On 11/09/2015 06:05 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: So that is an important point. While there is "the Oracle JVM", there is nothing like "OpenJDK". There are a number of OpenJDK builds by various distros and they are all different (and of varying quality). The beast is brittle, as

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Joshua Harlow wrote: > [...] > So in order to dispel this, I tried in that session to say 'actually I > have heard nothing saying it doesn't work with openjdk' in that session > but the voices did not seem to hear that (or they were unable to listen > due to there emotions stressed/high). As one

[openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-06 Thread Joshua Harlow
I just wanted to bring this up in its own thread as I know it was a concern of (some) folks at the DLM session in tokyo[0] and I'd like to try to bust this myth using hopefully objective people/users of zookeeper (besides myself and yahoo, the company I work for) so that this myth can be put

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-06 Thread Fox, Kevin M
10:55 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted I just wanted to bring this up in its own thread as I know it was a concern of (some) folks at the DLM session in tokyo[0] and I'd like to try to bust

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-06 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-11-06 10:55:14 -0800 (-0800), Joshua Harlow wrote: [...] > Basically here is the TLDR of the question/complaint: > > ''' > Zookeeper, a java application, will force you to install oracles > virtual machine implementation for it to work, and it doesn't work > with the openjdk, [...] Also,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

2015-11-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Jeremy, Yes, i went to re-read that thread :) yes, it was about cassandra NOT zookeeper http://markmail.org/message/lzsr72cideli5qvt On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2015-11-06 10:55:14 -0800 (-0800), Joshua Harlow wrote: > [...] >> Basically here is