Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-03-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2016-03-02 07:14:19 +1300: > There is a fixture in pbr's test suite to create keys with out entropy use, > should be easy to adapt for user by Reno's tests. That's likely where I got the original version of the one in reno now. Doug > On 1 Mar 2016 6:52

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Collins
There is a fixture in pbr's test suite to create keys with out entropy use, should be easy to adapt for user by Reno's tests. On 1 Mar 2016 6:52 AM, "Thomas Goirand" wrote: > On 02/29/2016 10:31 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >>> Give this a try and see if it works any better: > >>> https://review.op

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/29/2016 10:31 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Give this a try and see if it works any better: >>> https://review.openstack.org/285812 >> >> Oh, thanks so much! I'll try and give feedback on review.d.o. Is the >> issue around the (missed) use of --debug-quick-random? >> >> Why do we need Reno uni

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-02-29 15:15:10 +0800: > Hi Doug, > > Thanks for your reply, it's much appreciated! > > On 02/28/2016 11:40 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-02-28 22:56:51 +0800: > >>> I believe Thomas is referring to: > >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/28/2016 11:26 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > The plan is to build setuptools integration into reno so that when > we build our sdists they include a cache file of the data that reno > derives from the git history, so that without git present reno can > use the cache file instead of the git histor

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Doug, Thanks for your reply, it's much appreciated! On 02/28/2016 11:40 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-02-28 22:56:51 +0800: >>> I believe Thomas is referring to: >>> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/reno/+bug/1520096 >> >> The funny part about this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2016-02-28 10:40:44 -0500: > Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-02-28 22:56:51 +0800: > > On 02/28/2016 01:18 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > Thomas, > > > > > > Please try and let use know what kind of problems you see in Debian as > > > proj

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-02-28 22:56:51 +0800: > On 02/28/2016 01:18 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > Thomas, > > > > Please try and let use know what kind of problems you see in Debian as > > projects have already switched to reno. > > Dims, > > Unfortunately, if I wrote ab

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-02-28 01:09:36 +0800: > On 02/26/2016 08:34 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We implemented reno for this cycle to replace the old wiki-based > > system for writing release notes for deployers, operators, and > > end-users. > > Is the fact that Reno does

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/28/2016 01:18 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Thomas, > > Please try and let use know what kind of problems you see in Debian as > projects have already switched to reno. Dims, Unfortunately, if I wrote about this, that's because I tried, and experienced not very nice things packaging Mitaka

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-27 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > From: "Davanum Srinivas" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > > Thomas, > > Please try and let use know what kind of problems you see in Debian as > projects have already switched to reno. > > Thanks, > Dims I believe Thomas

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Thomas, Please try and let use know what kind of problems you see in Debian as projects have already switched to reno. Thanks, Dims On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 02/26/2016 08:34 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> We implemented reno for this cycle to replace the old wiki

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/26/2016 08:34 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We implemented reno for this cycle to replace the old wiki-based > system for writing release notes for deployers, operators, and > end-users. Is the fact that Reno does "git log" when building the docs a solved problem? Because from my past experienc

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2016-02-26 11:07:29 -0600: > On 02/26/2016 10:41 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2016-02-26 11:43:09 -0400: > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Sean McGinnis > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 09:03:49AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Flavio Percoco
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 02/26/2016 10:41 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2016-02-26 11:43:09 -0400: >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Sean McGinnis >>> wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 09:03:49AM -0600, Bran

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/26/2016 10:41 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2016-02-26 11:43:09 -0400: On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Sean McGinnis wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 09:03:49AM -0600, Brant Knudson wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: I'v

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2016-02-26 11:43:09 -0400: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Sean McGinnis > wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 09:03:49AM -0600, Brant Knudson wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Doug Hellmann > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I've had a few conv

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Flavio Percoco
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Sean McGinnis wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 09:03:49AM -0600, Brant Knudson wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Doug Hellmann > > wrote: > > > > > I've had a few conversations recently about "appropriate" content for > > > release notes, so I thought

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 09:03:49AM -0600, Brant Knudson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > I've had a few conversations recently about "appropriate" content for > > release notes, so I thought it was worth starting a separate thread here > > to clarify. > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Brant Knudson
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > I've had a few conversations recently about "appropriate" content for > release notes, so I thought it was worth starting a separate thread here > to clarify. > > We have 3 potential audiences for release notes: > > 1. Developers consuming l

[openstack-dev] [all] audience for release notes

2016-02-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
I've had a few conversations recently about "appropriate" content for release notes, so I thought it was worth starting a separate thread here to clarify. We have 3 potential audiences for release notes: 1. Developers consuming libraries or other code directly. 2. Deployers and operators. 3. End-