Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-15 Thread Mike Perez
On 16:06 May 14, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > On 5/14/16 2:35 PM, Mike Perez wrote: > > Reading this thread, Nikhil who is speaking for the quota team is worried > > about > > the amount of overhead caused by governance, instead of first focusing on > > making something actually exist. I see quite a

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-14 Thread Nikhil Komawar
On 5/14/16 2:35 PM, Mike Perez wrote: > On 18:46 May 12, Nikhil Komawar wrote: >> I realized that I missed one of your questions earlier. Response for >> that inline. >> >> >> On 5/12/16 4:58 PM, Nikhil Komawar wrote: >>> >>> On 5/12/16 4:33 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Nikhil

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-14 Thread Mike Perez
On 18:46 May 12, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > I realized that I missed one of your questions earlier. Response for > that inline. > > > On 5/12/16 4:58 PM, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > > > > > > On 5/12/16 4:33 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> Excerpts from Nikhil Komawar's message of 2016-05-12 15:40:05

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-13 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Hi Andreas, Thanks for your suggestions. Please find my response inline. On 5/13/16 2:45 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > On 05/12/2016 10:58 PM, Nikhil Komawar wrote: >> [...] >> But we are not working in a corner, we've a representative from cinder, >> someone from trove who is interested in long

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-13 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 05/12/2016 10:58 PM, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > [...] > But we are not working in a corner, we've a representative from cinder, > someone from trove who is interested in long term quota goals, someone > who has worked on nova (and then we are borrowing the gen_id concept of > Jay from Nova),

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Nikhil Komawar
I realized that I missed one of your questions earlier. Response for that inline. On 5/12/16 4:58 PM, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > > > On 5/12/16 4:33 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> Excerpts from Nikhil Komawar's message of 2016-05-12 15:40:05 -0400: >>> Please find my response inline: >>> >>> On

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Nikhil Komawar
On 5/12/16 4:33 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Nikhil Komawar's message of 2016-05-12 15:40:05 -0400: >> Please find my response inline: >> >> On 5/12/16 1:10 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-05-12 13:37:32 +0200: Tim Bell wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Nikhil Komawar's message of 2016-05-12 15:40:05 -0400: > Please find my response inline: > > On 5/12/16 1:10 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-05-12 13:37:32 +0200: > >> Tim Bell wrote: > >>> [...] > >>> I think it will be really difficult

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Please find my response inline: On 5/12/16 1:10 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-05-12 13:37:32 +0200: >> Tim Bell wrote: >>> [...] >>> I think it will be really difficult to persuade the mainstream projects to >>> adopt >>> a library if it is not part

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-05-12 13:37:32 +0200: > Tim Bell wrote: > > [...] > > I think it will be really difficult to persuade the mainstream projects to > > adopt > > a library if it is not part of Oslo. Developing a common library for quota > > management outside the scope

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Tim Bell wrote: [...] I think it will be really difficult to persuade the mainstream projects to adopt a library if it is not part of Oslo. Developing a common library for quota management outside the scope of the common library framework for OpenStack does not seem to be encouraging the

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 2016-05-12 02:59, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > Thanks Josh about your reply. It's helpful. > > The attempt of this cross project work is to come up with a standard way > of implementing quota logic that can be used by different services. > Currently, different projects have their individual

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Looking at yourcross-project spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284454/, I really wonder what's the reason is for this developed outside of the Big Tent, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF:

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-12 Thread Tim Bell
On 12/05/16 02:59, "Nikhil Komawar" wrote: >Thanks Josh about your reply. It's helpful. > >The attempt of this cross project work is to come up with a standard way >of implementing quota logic that can be used by different services. >Currently, different projects have

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-11 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Thanks Josh about your reply. It's helpful. The attempt of this cross project work is to come up with a standard way of implementing quota logic that can be used by different services. Currently, different projects have their individual implementations and there are many learning lessons. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-11 Thread Joshua Harlow
So it was under my belief that at its current stage that this library would start off on its own, and not initially start of (just yet) in oslo (as I think the oslo group wants to not be the blocker/requirement for a library being a successful thing + the cost of it being in oslo may not be

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-11 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Since the review [1] to create the repo is up now, I have one question: This is a cross-project effort, so what is it's governance? The review stated it will be an independent project outside of the big tent - but seeing that this should become a common part for core projects and specific to

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-04 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Comments inline. On 5/4/16 2:58 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > > On 04/05/16 20:35, "Nikhil Komawar" wrote: > >> >> On 5/4/16 2:09 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >>> On 04/05/16 19:41, "Nikhil Komawar" wrote: >>> Thanks for the summary and taking care of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-04 Thread Tim Bell
On 04/05/16 20:35, "Nikhil Komawar" wrote: > > >On 5/4/16 2:09 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >> >> On 04/05/16 19:41, "Nikhil Komawar" wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the summary and taking care of the setup, Vilobh! >>> >>> Pretty meticulously written on what was

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-04 Thread Nikhil Komawar
On 5/4/16 2:09 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > > On 04/05/16 19:41, "Nikhil Komawar" wrote: > >> Thanks for the summary and taking care of the setup, Vilobh! >> >> Pretty meticulously written on what was agreed at the session. Kudos! >> >> I wanted to add some points that were

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-04 Thread Tim Bell
On 04/05/16 19:41, "Nikhil Komawar" wrote: >Thanks for the summary and taking care of the setup, Vilobh! > >Pretty meticulously written on what was agreed at the session. Kudos! > >I wanted to add some points that were asked during the Glance >contributors' meetup: > >*

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-04 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Thanks for the summary and taking care of the setup, Vilobh! Pretty meticulously written on what was agreed at the session. Kudos! I wanted to add some points that were asked during the Glance contributors' meetup: * The quota limits will be set on the tables in the service that maintains the

[openstack-dev] [cross-project][quotas][delimiter] Austin Summit - Design Session Summary

2016-05-04 Thread Vilobh Meshram
Hi All, For people who missed the design summit session on Delimiter - Cross project Quota enforcement library here is a gist of what we discussed. Etherpad [1] captures the details. 1. Delimiter will not be responsible for rate-limiting. 2. Delimiter will not maintain data for the projects. 3.