Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Joshua Harlow
Jim Rollenhagen wrote: 1.)Nova<-> ironic interactions are generally seem terrible? I don't know if I'd call it terrible, but there's friction. Things that are unchangable on hardware are just software configs in vms (like mac addresses, overlays, etc), and things that make no sense in VMs are

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Hi, >> I agree in general with the idea but I think it needs a tad more >> context. We need to remember that Ironic (ex-Nova Baremetal) was >> created to fill a gap in OpenStack that was missing for TripleO >> project to get off the ground. That was the problem being solved and >> these aspects

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Joshua Harlow
Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/07/2016 02:34 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: I'll work on this list, as some folks that are trying start to try to connect ironic (IMHO without nova, because well kubernetes is enough like nova that there isn't a need for 2-layers of nova-like-systems at that point) into

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/07/2016 02:34 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: I'll work on this list, as some folks that are trying start to try to connect ironic (IMHO without nova, because well kubernetes is enough like nova that there isn't a need for 2-layers of nova-like-systems at that point) into kubernetes as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 06:17:56PM +0100, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for writing it down Jim. > > > So, I've been thinking about this quite a bit. We've also talked about > > doing a v2 API (as evil as that may be) in Ironic here and there. We've > > had lots of lessons learned

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Hi, Thanks for writing it down Jim. > So, I've been thinking about this quite a bit. We've also talked about > doing a v2 API (as evil as that may be) in Ironic here and there. We've > had lots of lessons learned from the v1 API, mostly that our API is > absolutely terrible for humans. I'd love

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 06:17:56PM +0100, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for writing it down Jim. > > > So, I've been thinking about this quite a bit. We've also talked about > > doing a v2 API (as evil as that may be) in Ironic here and there. We've > > had lots of lessons learned

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-09 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
> >1.)Nova<-> ironic interactions are generally seem terrible? > I don't know if I'd call it terrible, but there's friction. Things that > are unchangable on hardware are just software configs in vms (like mac > addresses, overlays, etc), and things that make no sense in VMs are >

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-08 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 10:39:20AM +, Sam Betts (sambetts) wrote: > > > On 07/06/2016 23:59, "Kris G. Lindgren" > > wrote: > > Replying to a digest so sorry for the copy and pastes > > > >> There's also been discussion of ways we

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-08 Thread Sam Betts (sambetts)
On 07/06/2016 23:59, "Kris G. Lindgren" > wrote: Replying to a digest so sorry for the copy and pastes >> There's also been discussion of ways we could do ad-hoc changes in RAID >> level, >> based on flavor metadata, during the

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Kris G. Lindgren
Replying to a digest so sorry for the copy and pastes…. >> There's also been discussion of ways we could do ad-hoc changes in RAID >> level, >> based on flavor metadata, during the provisioning process (rather than ahead >> of >> time) but no code has been done for this yet, AFAIK. > > I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Andrew Laski
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016, at 02:34 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > Devananda van der Veen wrote: > > On 06/07/2016 09:55 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > >> Joshua Harlow wrote: > >>> Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-07 08:46:28 -0700: > > Clint Byrum wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Joshua Harlow
Devananda van der Veen wrote: On 06/07/2016 09:55 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Joshua Harlow wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-07 08:46:28 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: Hi ironic folks,

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On 06/07/2016 09:55 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > Joshua Harlow wrote: >> Clint Byrum wrote: >>> Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-07 08:46:28 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: >> Hi ironic folks, >> As

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Joshua Harlow
Joshua Harlow wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-07 08:46:28 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: Hi ironic folks, As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Joshua Harlow
Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-07 08:46:28 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: Hi ironic folks, As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the following in an attempt to

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-07 08:46:28 -0700: > Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: > >> Hi ironic folks, > >> As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the > >> following in an attempt to

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Joshua Harlow
Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: Hi ironic folks, As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the following in an attempt to document some of my concerns, and I'm wondering if you folks could help myself identity

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 06/07/2016 02:01 AM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On 06/06/2016 01:44 PM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: Hi ironic folks, As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the following in an attempt to document some of my concerns, and I'm wondering if you folks could help myself

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
Thanks for getting to this before me, Deva. Saved me some typing. :) A little more color inline. On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 05:01:04PM -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > > On 06/06/2016 01:44 PM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > > Hi ironic folks, > > As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-06 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On 06/06/2016 01:44 PM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > Hi ironic folks, > As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the following > in an attempt to document some of my concerns, and I'm wondering if you folks > could help myself identity ongoing work to solve these (or

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: > Hi ironic folks, > As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the > following in an attempt to document some of my concerns, and I'm wondering if > you folks could help myself identity ongoing work to

[openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-06 Thread Kris G. Lindgren
Hi ironic folks, As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the following in an attempt to document some of my concerns, and I'm wondering if you folks could help myself identity ongoing work to solve these (or alternatives?) List of concerns with ironic: 1.)Nova <->