Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2014-05-15 Thread David Chadwick
In preparation for and input to today's design summit session on Authorisation at 11.50am, I thought it might be beneficial to remind folks of the proposed design that was circulated by me at the end of the long discussion on the format of a scoped role, that was held at the end of last year on

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread David Chadwick
How about the following which clearly separates naming and scoping constraints { role: { id: 76e72a, domain_id = --id--,(optional, if present, role is named by specific domain) project_id = --id--,(optional, if present, role is named by project) service_id =

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
...@kent.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:30 AM To: Adam Young; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition How about the following which

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread Adam Young
...@kent.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:30 AM To: Adam Young; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition How about the following which

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread David Chadwick
10, 2013 1:30 AM To: Adam Young; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition How about the following which clearly separates naming

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread Adam Young
- From: David Chadwick [mailto:d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:30 AM To: Adam Young; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Arvind the granularity in naming can be as fine as required i.e. a naming hierarchy can be as deep as required. So if there is a requirement for individual endpoints

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 12/10/2013 04:26 PM, David Chadwick wrote: Hi Arvind the granularity in naming can be as fine as required i.e. a naming hierarchy can be as deep as required. So if there is a requirement for individual endpoints to name

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-09 Thread David Chadwick
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Another alternative is to change role name into role display name, indicating that the string is only to be used in GUIs

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-09 Thread Adam Young
:15 AM To: Tiwari, Arvind; Adam Young; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Arvind we are making good progress, but what I dont like about your

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-09 Thread David Chadwick
Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition I've been thinking about your comment that nested roles are confusing AT: Thanks for considering my comment about nested role-def. What if we backed off and said the following

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-09 Thread Adam Young
: Thursday, December 05, 2013 4:15 AM To: Tiwari, Arvind; Adam Young; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Arvind we are making good progress

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-09 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 12/09/2013 03:04 PM, David Chadwick wrote: On 09/12/2013 19:37, Adam Young wrote: On 12/06/2013 04:44 AM, David Chadwick wrote: Another alternative is to change role name into role display name

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-09 Thread David Chadwick
; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 12/09/2013 03:04 PM, David Chadwick wrote: On 09/12/2013 19:37, Adam Young wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-09 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
PM To: David Chadwick; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 12/09/2013 03:04 PM, David Chadwick wrote: On 09/12/2013 19:37

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-06 Thread David Chadwick
) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition I've been thinking about your comment that nested roles are confusing AT: Thanks for considering my comment about nested role-def. What if we backed off and said

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-05 Thread David Chadwick
, December 04, 2013 10:41 AM To: Adam Young; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Adam I understand your problem: having projects and services

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-05 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Arvind we are making good progress, but what I dont like about your proposal below is that the role name is not unique

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-05 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); dolph.math...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Almost, but not quite. The role name cannot be anything you like. It must be globally unique, and named hierarchically. There is a proposal in another

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread David Chadwick
, November 26, 2013 4:08 PM To: David Chadwick; OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi David, Thanks for your time and valuable comments. I have replied to your comments and try to explain why I am advocating to this BP

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread David Chadwick
Thanks for your time, Arvind -Original Message- From: Tiwari, Arvind Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Adam Young; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread Adam Young
, November 26, 2013 4:08 PM To: David Chadwick; OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi David, Thanks for your time and valuable comments. I have replied to your comments and try to explain why I am advocating to this BP. Let me know

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
; David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition I've been thinking about your comment that nested roles are confusing AT: Thanks for considering my comment about nested role-def. What if we backed off and said the following: Some role-definitions are owned

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Young Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition I have added comments 111 to 122 david On 03/12/2013 23:58, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi David, I have added my comments underneath line # 97 till line #110, it is mostly aligned with your proposal with some modification

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread David Chadwick
: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Arvind I have just added some comments to your blueprint page regards David On 19/11/2013 00:01, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi, Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id binding with roles BP

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread David Chadwick
:44 AM To: Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 11/26/2013 06:57 PM, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi Adam, Based on our

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:41 AM To: Adam Young; Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Adam I understand your problem: having

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
, Arvind; Adam Young Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 04/12/2013 17:28, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi David, Thanks for your valuable comments. I have updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-04 Thread Adam Young
: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Arvind I have just added some comments to your blueprint page regards David On 19/11/2013 00:01, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi, Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id binding with roles BP https

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-03 Thread David Chadwick
...@gmail.com; David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 11/26/2013 06:57 PM, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi Adam, Based on our discussion over IRC, I have updated the below etherpad with proposal for nested role definition Updated. I made my changes

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-03 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Adam Young; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Adam and David, Thank you so much for all the great comments, seems we are making good progress. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-03 Thread Adam Young
-Original Message- From: Tiwari, Arvind Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:08 PM To: David Chadwick; OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi David, Thanks for your time and valuable comments. I have replied to your

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-02 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Henry Nash; dolph.math...@gmail.com; David Chadwick Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition On 11/26/2013 06:57 PM, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi Adam, Based on our discussion over IRC, I have updated

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-29 Thread David Chadwick
To: Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List Cc: Henry Nash; ayo...@redhat.com; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi Arvind I have just added some comments to your blueprint page regards David On 19/11

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-27 Thread Adam Young
Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi David, Thanks for your time and valuable comments. I have replied to your comments and try to explain why I am advocating to this BP. Let me know your thoughts, please feel free to update below etherpad https

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-26 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
-Original Message- From: David Chadwick [mailto:d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 12:12 PM To: Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List Cc: Henry Nash; ayo...@redhat.com; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-26 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
. Feel free to update the etherpad. Regards, Arvind -Original Message- From: Tiwari, Arvind Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:08 PM To: David Chadwick; OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition Hi David, Thanks for your

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-25 Thread David Chadwick
Hi Arvind I have just added some comments to your blueprint page regards David On 19/11/2013 00:01, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi, Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id binding with roles BP

[openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-18 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Hi, Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id binding with roles BPhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/serviceid-binding-with-role-definition. I have added a new BP (link below) along with detailed use case to support this BP.

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-18 Thread Adam Young
On 11/18/2013 07:01 PM, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi, Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id binding with roles BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/serviceid-binding-with-role-definition. I have added a new BP (link below) along with detailed use