Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-27 Thread Ian McLeod
Russell, Thanks for the reminder to follow up on list. To summarize my read of this thread, the strong consensus seems to be to keep the detailed mechanics of building individual operating systems out of nova itself. It also seems there's no universally agreed upon alternative location for it

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-26 Thread Russell Bryant
I believe this is where the thread stopped a couple weeks ago. I was just curious what has happened since. How did you interpret all of the feedback given, and what direction have you decided to take next? Thanks, -- Russell Bryant On 08/08/2013 12:42 PM, Mark Washenberger wrote: There is a

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-08 Thread Ian McLeod
On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 15:53 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 10:34:57AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 06:06 PM, Ian McLeod wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:02 -0300, Monty Taylor wrote: The proof of concept approach is limited to full-virt hypervisors.

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-08 Thread Ian McLeod
On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 12:05 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2013 10:46 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:20:00PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-08 Thread Ian McLeod
On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 11:00 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-08-06 15:06:34 -0700: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:02 -0300, Monty Taylor wrote: On 08/06/2013 03:46 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 09:28:51AM -0500, Ian McLeod wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 12:05 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2013 10:46 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:20:00PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello,

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-08 Thread Mark Washenberger
There is a current proposal in glance that is receiving development attention towards importing images asynchronously from a variety of sources. The import feature is plugin-based, so it would be easy to add on the ability and a plugin to do something like importing base os installs. The

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-08-08 07:29:14 -0700: On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 11:00 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Flexibility can also be looked at as complexity. Complexity in Nova is expensive in many ways. But just poking a few more holes into Nova via the API would be a simple and

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:20:00PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation of base images from external OS install sources. This provides a way to build images

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-07 Thread John Garbutt
On 6 August 2013 23:06, Ian McLeod imcl...@redhat.com wrote: The proof of concept approach is limited to full-virt hypervisors. It's unclear to me if there's a way we can make this work for Xen-backed installs without the kind of lower level access to the virt environment that we'll get if we

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 10:34:57AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 06:06 PM, Ian McLeod wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:02 -0300, Monty Taylor wrote: The proof of concept approach is limited to full-virt hypervisors. It's unclear to me if there's a way we can make this work for

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-07 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/07/2013 10:46 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:20:00PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation of base images from external OS install

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-08-06 15:06:34 -0700: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:02 -0300, Monty Taylor wrote: On 08/06/2013 03:46 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-06 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/06/2013 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation of base images from external OS install sources. This provides a way to build images from scratch via native

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 03:46 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation of base images from external OS install sources. This

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-06 Thread Antony Messerli
The patch referred to (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38650/) isn't really around adding support to build native images. We're using the existing boot from ISO support feature to load an iPXE ISO into Glance which then can then chain load a menu of installation options from an http server.

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-06 Thread Ian McLeod
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:02 -0300, Monty Taylor wrote: On 08/06/2013 03:46 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-06 Thread Noorul Islam Kamal Malmiyoda
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Ian Mcleod imcl...@redhat.com wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation of base images from external OS install sources. This provides a way to build images from scratch via native OS installer tools