Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-09-03 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/17/2013 12:26 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-08-16 16:42:23 -0700: On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-08-16 11:25:07 -0700: Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the pa

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 17 August 2013 23:49, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > > I tend to agree that when the gate for a project is broken, nothing > should > > be merged for that project until the gate jobs are green again. > > In the case of Neutron, making the jo

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-17 Thread Robert Collins
On 17 August 2013 23:49, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > I tend to agree that when the gate for a project is broken, nothing should > be merged for that project until the gate jobs are green again. > In the case of Neutron, making the job non voting only caused more bugs to > slip through, and that mea

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 17, 2013 7:52 AM, "Salvatore Orlando" wrote: > > I tend to agree that when the gate for a project is broken, nothing should be merged for that project until the gate jobs are green again. > In the case of Neutron, making the job non voting only caused more bugs to slip through, and that mea

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-17 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I tend to agree that when the gate for a project is broken, nothing should be merged for that project until the gate jobs are green again. In the case of Neutron, making the job non voting only caused more bugs to slip through, and that meant more works for the developer themselves, and more headac

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-08-16 16:42:23 -0700: > > On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-08-16 11:25:07 -0700: > >> Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past > >> month, and it didn't slo

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-08-16 11:25:07 -0700: >> Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past >> month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most Neutron >> developers kept on worki

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 08/16/2013 02:25 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the >> past month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most >> Neutron developers kept on working as if nothing w

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-08-16 11:25:07 -0700: > Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past > month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most Neutron > developers kept on working as if nothing was wrong, blithely merging changes > w

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/16/2013 02:25 PM, Maru Newby wrote: > Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the > past month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most > Neutron developers kept on working as if nothing was wrong, blithely > merging changes with no guarantees that t

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Alex Gaynor
I'd strongly agree with that, a project must always be gated by any tests for it, even if they don't gate for other projects. I'd also argue that any time there's a non-gating test (for any project) it needs a formal explanation of why it's not gating yet, what the plan to get it to gating is, and

[openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most Neutron developers kept on working as if nothing was wrong, blithely merging changes with no guarantees that they weren't introducing new breakage. New bugs w