Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2016-08-16 10:35:11 -0400: > On 08/16/2016 05:36 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > John Dickinson wrote: > Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 16:04:42 -0700: > > [...] > > The proposed plan has a lot of good in it, and I'm really

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-16 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/16/2016 05:36 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > John Dickinson wrote: Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 16:04:42 -0700: > [...] > The proposed plan has a lot of good in it, and I'm really happy to see > the TC > working to bring common goals and vision to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Dickinson wrote: >>> Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 16:04:42 -0700: [...] The proposed plan has a lot of good in it, and I'm really happy to see the TC working to bring common goals and vision to the entirety of the OpenStack community. Drop the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-15 Thread John Dickinson
On 15 Aug 2016, at 1:37, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> [...] >> Choosing to be a part of a community comes with obligations as well >> as benefits. If, after a lengthy discussion of a community-wide >> goal, involving everyone in the community, a project team is >> resolutely

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-15 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > [...] > Choosing to be a part of a community comes with obligations as well > as benefits. If, after a lengthy discussion of a community-wide > goal, involving everyone in the community, a project team is > resolutely opposed to the goal, does that not indicate that the >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 16:04:42 -0700: > > On 12 Aug 2016, at 13:31, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 13:02:59 -0700: > >> > >> On 12 Aug 2016, at 7:28, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> > >>> Excerpts from John Dickinson's

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 13:02:59 -0700: > > On 12 Aug 2016, at 7:28, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-11 15:00:56 -0700: > >> > > > >> I agree with Hongbin Lu's comments that the resulting goals might fit > >> into the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-12 Thread John Dickinson
On 12 Aug 2016, at 13:31, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 13:02:59 -0700: >> >> On 12 Aug 2016, at 7:28, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >>> Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-11 15:00:56 -0700: On 10 Aug 2016, at 8:29, Doug Hellmann

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-12 13:02:59 -0700: > > On 12 Aug 2016, at 7:28, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-11 15:00:56 -0700: > >> > >> On 10 Aug 2016, at 8:29, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> > >>> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-12 Thread John Dickinson
On 12 Aug 2016, at 7:28, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-11 15:00:56 -0700: >> >> On 10 Aug 2016, at 8:29, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >>> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2016-07-29 16:55:22 -0400: One of the outcomes of the discussion at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from John Dickinson's message of 2016-08-11 15:00:56 -0700: > > On 10 Aug 2016, at 8:29, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2016-07-29 16:55:22 -0400: > >> One of the outcomes of the discussion at the leadership training > >> session earlier this year

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Dickinson wrote: > [...] > I know the TC has no malicious intent here, and I do support the idea > of having cross-project goals. The first goals proposed seem like > great goals. And I understand the significant challenges of > coordinating goals between a multitude of different projects.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-11 Thread John Dickinson
On 10 Aug 2016, at 8:29, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2016-07-29 16:55:22 -0400: >> One of the outcomes of the discussion at the leadership training >> session earlier this year was the idea that the TC should set some >> community-wide goals for accomplishing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][ptl] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2016-07-29 16:55:22 -0400: > One of the outcomes of the discussion at the leadership training > session earlier this year was the idea that the TC should set some > community-wide goals for accomplishing specific technical tasks to > get the projects synced