Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Hayes, Graham's message of 2016-07-26 18:16:16 +: > On 26/07/2016 18:47, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Hayes, Graham's message of 2016-07-26 13:48:35 +: > >> On 26/07/2016 14:15, Sean Dague wrote: > >>> On 07/26/2016 08:51 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >>> > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Hayes, Graham
On 26/07/2016 18:47, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Hayes, Graham's message of 2016-07-26 13:48:35 +: >> On 26/07/2016 14:15, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 07/26/2016 08:51 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Given the amount of in-progress work to address the issue you've raised,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Hayes, Graham's message of 2016-07-26 13:48:35 +: > On 26/07/2016 14:15, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 07/26/2016 08:51 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > >> > >> Given the amount of in-progress work to address the issue you've > >> raised, I'm not convinced we need a global rule or

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Hayes, Graham
On 26/07/2016 14:15, Sean Dague wrote: > On 07/26/2016 08:51 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> >> Given the amount of in-progress work to address the issue you've >> raised, I'm not convinced we need a global rule or policy. All of >> the teams mentioned are working toward the goal of providing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 13:23:05 CEST Hayes, Graham wrote: > On 26/07/2016 14:18, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >>> And just to satisfy my own curiosity, how does someone looking at the > >>> internals of tempest know what's on the stable API and what's not > >>> considered stable? Are the parts of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Hayes, Graham
On 26/07/2016 14:18, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Luigi Toscano's message of 2016-07-26 15:02:28 +0200: >> On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 08:34:27 CEST Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Excerpts from Andrea Frittoli's message of 2016-07-26 10:24:07 +: What still requires work in Tempest is

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Luigi Toscano's message of 2016-07-26 15:02:28 +0200: > On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 08:34:27 CEST Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Andrea Frittoli's message of 2016-07-26 10:24:07 +: > > > > > > What still requires work in Tempest is the stable interface. Because > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/26/2016 08:51 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Given the amount of in-progress work to address the issue you've > raised, I'm not convinced we need a global rule or policy. All of > the teams mentioned are working toward the goal of providing stable > APIs already, and no one seems to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 08:34:27 CEST Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Andrea Frittoli's message of 2016-07-26 10:24:07 +: > > > > What still requires work in Tempest is the stable interface. Because > > plugins are not in the Tempest tree, the QA team recommend that they use > > only

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Hayes, Graham's message of 2016-07-25 21:36:29 +: > Top posting - this is a recap of what has been said, and some > clarifications > > I realise that I was not very clear at the beginning of this process, so > here is my effort to clarify things, from the ML thread, and the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Andrea Frittoli's message of 2016-07-26 10:24:07 +: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:36 PM Hayes, Graham wrote: > > > Top posting - this is a recap of what has been said, and some > > clarifications > > > > I realise that I was not very clear at the beginning

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Andrea Frittoli
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:36 PM Hayes, Graham wrote: > Top posting - this is a recap of what has been said, and some > clarifications > > I realise that I was not very clear at the beginning of this process, so > here is my effort to clarify things, from the ML thread, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Equal Chances for all projects (was Plugins for all)

2016-07-26 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Hi, I am reading through the thread, and it puzzles me that I see a lot of right words about goals but not enough hints on who is going to implement that. We all love public and stable interfaces, everyone needs it, and I don’t think anyone works against that goal. For one, tempest folks