Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 15/04/15 09:09 -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 19:54 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 04/14/2015 07:26 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-16 Thread Ken Giusti
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Ken Giusti wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Doug Hellmannd...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-04-15 09:31:18 -0400: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Joshua

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-16 Thread Attila Fazekas
- Original Message - From: Ken Giusti kgiu...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:47:50 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-04-15 15:10:54 -0400: On 04/15/2015 01:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-04-15 10:15:11 -0700: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-04-14 16:54:30 -0700: It's time to be honest about the level of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Ken Giusti
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Ken Giusti wrote: Just to be clear: you're asking specifically about the 0-10 based impl_qpid.py driver, correct? This is the driver that is used for the qpid:// transport (aka rpc_backend). I ask because I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-04-15 11:53:28 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] When I proposed removing the GridFS driver from glance_store, I asked for feedback in other mailing lists and then came back here proposing de dev removal. Got it--so the recommendation is to not ask the developer community

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Joshua Harlow
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 19:54 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 04/14/2015 07:26 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And I'd

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-04-14 16:54:30 -0700: On 04/14/2015 07:26 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-04-15 10:15:11 -0700: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-04-14 16:54:30 -0700: It's time to be honest about the level of support that comes with those other backends, deprecate the plugability, and move on to more interesting problems.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-04-15 09:31:18 -0400: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Ken Giusti wrote: Just to be clear: you're asking specifically about the 0-10 based impl_qpid.py driver, correct? This is the driver that is used

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-04-15 10:48:30 -0700: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-04-15 10:15:11 -0700: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-04-14 16:54:30 -0700: It's time to be honest about the level of support that comes with those other

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Ken Giusti
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-04-15 09:31:18 -0400: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Ken Giusti wrote: Just to be clear: you're asking specifically about the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/14/2015 08:21 PM, Chris Dent wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Sean Dague wrote: It's time to be honest about the level of support that comes with those other backends, deprecate the plugability, and move on to more interesting problems. We do have plenty of them to solve. :) Perhaps in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-04-15 11:02:34 -0700: Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-04-15 10:48:30 -0700: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-04-15 10:15:11 -0700: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-04-14 16:54:30 -0700: It's time to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-04-15 14:08:57 -0400: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-04-15 09:31:18 -0400: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Ken

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Sean Dague
On 04/15/2015 01:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-04-15 10:15:11 -0700: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-04-14 16:54:30 -0700: It's time to be honest about the level of support that comes with those other backends, deprecate the plugability,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Joshua Harlow
Ken Giusti wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Doug Hellmannd...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-04-15 09:31:18 -0400: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Joshua Harlowharlo...@outlook.com wrote: Ken Giusti wrote: Just to be clear: you're asking

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Clint Byrum
As a result of all of the excellent discussions here, I have produced a spec for policy which I think will assist us all in moving forward on improving the quality in this space: https://review.openstack.org/174105 Thanks everyone for your excellent replies! Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 14/04/15 19:54 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 04/14/2015 07:26 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And I'd recommend subscribing to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 15/04/15 00:04 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:26:21 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And I'd recommend

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Sean Dague
On 04/14/2015 07:26 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And I'd recommend subscribing to it... it's really quite good! He did

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-04-15 01:26:21 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And I'd recommend subscribing to it... it's really quite

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Chris Dent
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Sean Dague wrote: It's time to be honest about the level of support that comes with those other backends, deprecate the plugability, and move on to more interesting problems. We do have plenty of them to solve. :) Perhaps in doing so we could get a better Rabbit

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Ken Giusti
Just to be clear: you're asking specifically about the 0-10 based impl_qpid.py driver, correct? This is the driver that is used for the qpid:// transport (aka rpc_backend). I ask because I'm maintaining the AMQP 1.0 driver (transport amqp://) that can also be used with qpidd. However, the AMQP

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 4/14/2015 12:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Hello! There's been some recent progress on python3 compatibility for core libraries that OpenStack depends on[1], and this is likely to open the flood gates for even more python3 problems to be found and fixed. Recently a proposal was made to make

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/14/2015 01:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Hello! There's been some recent progress on python3 compatibility for core libraries that OpenStack depends on[1], and this is likely to open the flood gates for even more python3 problems to be found and fixed. Recently a proposal was made to make

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
Ken Giusti wrote: Just to be clear: you're asking specifically about the 0-10 based impl_qpid.py driver, correct? This is the driver that is used for the qpid:// transport (aka rpc_backend). I ask because I'm maintaining the AMQP 1.0 driver (transport amqp://) that can also be used with

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2015-04-14 13:13:47 -0700: On 4/14/2015 12:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Hello! There's been some recent progress on python3 compatibility for core libraries that OpenStack depends on[1], and this is likely to open the flood gates for even more

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-04-14 12:54:20 -0700: Just to be clear: you're asking specifically about the 0-10 based impl_qpid.py driver, correct? This is the driver that is used for the qpid:// transport (aka rpc_backend). I ask because I'm maintaining the AMQP 1.0 driver

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
rdo packstack deploys rabbit these days too. Thanks, Kevin From: Clint Byrum [cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:20 PM To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 14/04/15 10:22 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Hello! There's been some recent progress on python3 compatibility for core libraries that OpenStack depends on[1], and this is likely to open the flood gates for even more python3 problems to be found and fixed. Recently a proposal was made to make

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And I'd recommend subscribing to it... it's really quite good! He did (twice apparently, I expect the second by mistake):

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 14/04/15 23:18 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-15 01:10:03 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] I'd recommend sending this email to the ops mailing list And I'd recommend subscribing to it... it's really quite good! He did (twice apparently, I expect the second by mistake):