[openstack-dev] Hierarchicical Multitenancy Discussion

2014-03-20 Thread Vinod Kumar Boppanna
Hi, As discussed in the last meeting, i had changed the POC for Quota Management in Hierarchical Multitenancy setup. Please check the following links Twiki Page -> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/POC_for_QuotaManagement#API_URLs Code (diff) -> https://github.com/vinodkumarboppanna/POC-For-Quo

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-20 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo
Wow Yuriy, amazing and fast :-), benchmarks included ;-) The daemon solution only adds 4.5ms, good work. I'll add some comments in a while. Recently I talked with another engineer in Red Hat (working in ovirt/vdsm), and they have something like this daemon, and they are using BaseMan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-20 Thread Tim Bell
We're using a dedicated MongoDB instance for ceilometer and a distinct DB for each of the Nova cells. Tim From: Nadya Privalova [mailto:nprival...@mirantis.com] Sent: 20 March 2014 13:27 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack/GSoC

2014-03-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Team, Here's what i see in the system so far. Mentors: ybudupi blint boris_42 coroner cppcabrera sriramhere arnaudleg greghaynes hughsaunders julim ddutta (Organization Administrator) dims (Organization Administrator) Projects: Cross-services Scheduler project. Artem Shepelev Artem Shepelev Prop

Re: [openstack-dev] Review request: A blueprint on OpenStack Neutron Port Templates Framework

2014-03-20 Thread Kyle Mestery
Also, before undertaking large blueprints like this, I'd highly encourage folks to look at existing work in the community. The Neutron community has been working on Group Based Policy since last fall. There was a design summit session in Hong Kong around this as well, and we've been meeting weekly

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint Review request for OpenStack Neutron Port Templates Network Policy.

2014-03-20 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Kumar, Vinod (HP Networking) < vinod.kum...@hp.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Me and my fellow friends (CCed) invite the community to review OpenStack > Neutron Port Templates Network Policy blueprint submitted recently. > > Please review the same and feel free to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-20 Thread Christian Berendt
On 03/20/2014 01:27 PM, Nadya Privalova wrote: > Tim, yep. If you use one db for Ceilometer and Nova then nova's > performance may be affected. If I understood it correctly the problem is not the higher load produced directly by Ceilometer on the database. The problem is that the Ceilometer comput

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/20/2014 08:36 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 12:07 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Monty Taylor wrote: >>> On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the determination of the consequences are very

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] [Ceilometer] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: > >> The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the > >> determination of the consequences are very fact intensive. I was the > >> chair of the User Committee in developing the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-20 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > I'm aiming at ~100 new lines of code for daemon. Of course I'll use some > batteries included with Python stdlib but they should be safe already. > It should be rather easy to audit them. > Here's my take on this: https://review.openstack.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 12:07 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: > >> The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the > >> determination of the consequences are very fact intensive. I was the > >> chair of the User

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 20/03/14 09:09 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 12:37 -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Let me start by saying that I want there to be a constructive discussion around all this. I've done my best to keep my tone as non-snarky as I could while still clearly stating my con

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack/GSoC

2014-03-20 Thread Artem Shepelev
On 03/18/2014 07:19 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Dear Students, Student application deadline is on Friday, March 21 [1] Once you finish the application process on the Google GSoC site. Please reply back to this thread to confirm that all the materials are ready to review. thanks, dims [1] http

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-20 Thread Nadya Privalova
Tim, yep. If you use one db for Ceilometer and Nova then nova's performance may be affected. I've seen this issue. Will start profiling ASAP. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > > +1 for performance analysis to understand what needs to be optimised. > Metering should be light-wei

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Backwards incompatible API changes

2014-03-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:51:26 +0100 Thierry Carrez wrote: > > I still think reverting before release is an option we should > consider. My point is, yes we broke it back in October for people > doing CD (and they might by now have gotten used to it), if we let > this to release we'll then break it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-20 Thread Tim Bell
+1 for performance analysis to understand what needs to be optimised. Metering should be light-weight. For those of us running in production, we don't have an option to turn ceilometer off some of the time. That we are not able to run through the gate tests hints that there are optimisations t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 12:37 -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > Let me start by saying that I want there to be a constructive discussion > around all this. I've done my best to keep my tone as non-snarky as I could > while still clearly stating my concerns. I've also spent a few hours > reviewin

Re: [openstack-dev] Review request: A blueprint on OpenStack Neutron Port Templates Framework

2014-03-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi, As said here [1], please don't send review requests directly to the ML. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html 2014-03-20 12:08 GMT+01:00 Kamat, Maruti Haridas : > Hi All, > > Me and my fellow friends (CCed) invite the community to review OpenSt

[openstack-dev] [openstack-qa] Graduation Requirements + Scope of Tempest

2014-03-20 Thread Malini Kamalambal
Hello all, I have been working on adding tests in Tempest for Marconi, for the last few months. While there are many amazing people to work with, the process has been more difficult than I expected. Couple of pain-points and suggestions to make the process easier for myself & future contributo

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/20/2014 05:31 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo wrote: On 03/19/2014 10:54 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo mailto:majop...@redhat.com>> wrote: An advance on the changes that it's requiring to have a py->c++ compiled rootwrap as a mitigation POC fo

[openstack-dev] Review request: A blueprint on OpenStack Neutron audit logging enhancement

2014-03-20 Thread Kamat, Maruti Haridas
Hi All, I would like you to go through a blueprint I submitted recently and get early comments from you, so that it covers all the use cases and anything else which will improve the blueprint. Link to Open Stack blueprint page https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-auditlogging

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-20 Thread Nadya Privalova
Sean, thank for analysis. JFYI, I did some initial profiling, it's described here https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg19030.html. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 03/20/2014 05:49 AM, Nadya Privalova wrote: > > Hi all, > > First of all, thank

[openstack-dev] Review request: A blueprint on OpenStack Neutron Port Templates Framework

2014-03-20 Thread Kamat, Maruti Haridas
Hi All, Me and my fellow friends (CCed) invite the community to review OpenStack Neutron Port Templates Framework blueprint submitted recently. Please review the same and feel free to suggest, comment and ask questions. Link to Open Stack blueprint page https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Monty Taylor wrote: > On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: >> The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the >> determination of the consequences are very fact intensive. I was the >> chair of the User Committee in developing the GPLv3 and I am therefor >> quite famili

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Backwards incompatible API changes

2014-03-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Christopher Yeoh wrote: > The patch was merged in October (just after Icehouse opened) and so has > been used in clouds that do CD for quite a while. After some discussion > on IRC I think we'll end up having to leave this backwards incompatible > change in there - given there are most likely users

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [QA] Slow Ceilometer resource_list CLI command

2014-03-20 Thread Sampath Priyankara
Hi, Re-architecting the schema might fix most of the performance issues of resource_list. And also, must do some work to improve the performance of meter-list. Is the Gordon's blue print gonna cover the both aspects ? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/big-data-sql Samp

[openstack-dev] Blueprint Review request for OpenStack Neutron Port Templates Network Policy.

2014-03-20 Thread Kumar, Vinod (HP Networking)
Hi All, Me and my fellow friends (CCed) invite the community to review OpenStack Neutron Port Templates Network Policy blueprint submitted recently. Please review the same and feel free to suggest, comment and ask questions. Link to Open Stack blueprint page https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neut

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/20/2014 05:49 AM, Nadya Privalova wrote: > Hi all, > First of all, thanks for your suggestions! > > To summarize the discussions here: > 1. We are not going to install Mongo (because "is's wrong" ?) We are not going to install Mongo "not from base distribution", because we don't do that for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-20 Thread Nadya Privalova
Hi all, First of all, thanks for your suggestions! To summarize the discussions here: 1. We are not going to install Mongo (because "is's wrong" ?) 2. Idea about spawning several collectors is suspicious (btw there is a patch that run several collectors: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79962/.)

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-20 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo
On 03/19/2014 10:54 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo mailto:majop...@redhat.com>> wrote: An advance on the changes that it's requiring to have a py->c++ compiled rootwrap as a mitigation POC for havana/icehouse. https://github.com/mange

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/03/14 11:00 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: > Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much appreciated.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Heat use as a standalone component for Cloud Managment over multi IAAS

2014-03-20 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Just out of curiosity: what is the purpose of project "warm"? From the wiki page and the sample it looks pretty much like what Heat is doing. And "warm" is almost "HOT" so could you imagine your use cases can just be addressed by Heat using HOT templates? Regards, Thomas sahid wrote on 18/03/201

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the determination of the consequences are very fact intensive. I was the chair of the User Committee in developing the GPLv3 and I am therefor quite familiar with the legal issues. The i

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness

2014-03-20 Thread jang
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014, Sullivan, Jon Paul wrote: > > From: James Slagle [mailto:james.sla...@gmail.com] > > Sent: 18 March 2014 19:58 > > Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ > > friendliness > > > > Our current meeting time is Tuesdays at 19:00 UTC. I think this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 01:28 +, Joshua Harlow wrote: > Proxying from yahoo's open source director (since he wasn't initially > subscribed to this list, afaik he now is) on his behalf. > > From Gil Yehuda (Yahoo’s Open Source director). > > I would urge you to avoid creating a dependency betwee

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] API schema location

2014-03-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:52:27 +0100 "Koderer, Marc" wrote: > > Am I missing something or are these schemas being added now just a > > subset of what is being used for negative testing? Why can't we > > either add the extra negative test info around the new test > > validation patches and get the d

[openstack-dev] [nova][PCI] one use case make the flavor/extra-info based solution to be right choice

2014-03-20 Thread yongli he
HI, all cause of the Juno, the PCI discuss keen open, for group VS to flavor/extra-information based solution. there is a use case, which group based solution can not supported well. please considerate of this, and choose the flavor/extra-information based solution. Groups problem: I: exposed

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack/GSoC

2014-03-20 Thread Csubák Dániel
Hi Dims! I have submitted my proposal to the Google GSoC site and I will upload it to the OpenStack GSoC wiki soon. Could you please review it for me? Please inform me if anything else is needed. Thank you, Dániel Csubák (csuby) 2014-03-18 16:19 GMT+01:00 Davanum Srinivas : > Dear Students, >

Re: [openstack-dev] Disaster Recovery for OpenStack - call for stakeholder - discussion reminder

2014-03-20 Thread Deepak Shetty
Hi List, I was looking at the etherpad and March 19 notes and have few Qs 1) How is the "DR middleware" (depicted in Ron's youtube video) different than the "replication agent" (noted in the March 19 etherpad notes). Are they same, if not, how/why are they different ? 2) Maybe a dumb Q.. but

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