Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] How Mistral handling long running delegate tasks

2014-04-04 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 04 Apr 2014, at 07:33, Kirill Izotov enyk...@stackstorm.com wrote: Then, we can make task executor interface public and allow clients to provide their own task executors. It will be possible then for Mistral to implement its own task executor, or several, and share the executors between

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Next crack at real workflows

2014-04-04 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Dmitri, nice work, will research them carefully early next week. I would ask other folks to do the same (especially Nikolay). Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. On 03 Apr 2014, at 06:22, Dmitri Zimine d...@stackstorm.com wrote: Two more workflows drafted - cloud cron, and lifecycle, version 1.

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [nova] How should a holistic scheduler relate to Heat?

2014-04-04 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 04/03/2014 07:01:16 PM: ... The whole question raises many more questions, and I wonder if there's just something you haven't told us about this use case. :-P Yes, I seem to have made a muddle of things by starting in one corner of a design space. Let

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-04 Thread Ladislav Smola
+1 On 04/03/2014 01:02 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Getting back in the swing of things... Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Hi Steve, your indexing idea sounds interesting, but I am not sure it would work reliably. The kind of matching based on names of parameters and outputs and internal get_attr uses has very strong assumptions and I think there is a not so low risk of false positives. What if the templates includes

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-04 Thread mar...@redhat.com
On 03/04/14 14:02, Robert Collins wrote: Getting back in the swing of things... Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-04 Thread Imre Farkas
On 04/03/2014 01:02 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Getting back in the swing of things... Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota Management

2014-04-04 Thread Yingjun Li
Glad to see this, i will be glad to contribute on it if the project could move on.. On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:01, Cazzolato, Sergio J sergio.j.cazzol...@intel.com wrote: Glad to see that, for sure I'll participate of this session. Thanks -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes

[openstack-dev] [Swift] Icehouse RC1 available

2014-04-04 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hello everyone, Last but not least, Swift just published its first Icehouse release candidate. You can find the tarball for 1.13.1-rc1 at: https://launchpad.net/swift/icehouse/1.13.1-rc1 Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin, this RC1 will be formally

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-04 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi all, 2014-04-03 18:47 GMT+02:00 Meghal Gosalia meg...@yahoo-inc.com: Hello folks, Here is the bug [1] which is currently not allowing a host to be part of two availability zones. This bug was targeted for havana. The fix in the bug was made because it was assumed that openstack

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] Whats the way to do cleanup during service shutdown / restart ?

2014-04-04 Thread Deepak Shetty
resendign it with correct cinder prefix in subject. thanx, deepak On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Deepak Shetty dpkshe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking to umount the glsuterfs shares that are mounted as part of gluster driver, when c-vol is being restarted or Ctrl-C'ed (as in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] minimal scope covered by third-party testing

2014-04-04 Thread Simon Pasquier
Hi Salvatore, On 03/04/2014 14:56, Salvatore Orlando wrote: Hi Simon, snip I hope stricter criteria will be enforced for Juno; I personally think every CI should run at least the smoketest suite for L2/L3 services (eg: load balancer scenario will stay optional). I had a little thinking

[openstack-dev] Swift ring building..

2014-04-04 Thread Shyam Prasad N
Hi, I have a question regarding the ring building process in a swift cluster. Many sources online suggest building the rings using ring-builder and scp the generated ring files to all the nodes in the cluster. What I'm trying to understand is if the scp step is just to simplify things, or is it

[openstack-dev] [Devstack] add support for ceph

2014-04-04 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Hello, We had quite a lengthy discussion on this review : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65113/ about a patch that seb has sent to add ceph support to devstack. The main issues seems to resolve around the fact that in devstack we support only packages that are in the distros and not having

[openstack-dev] 1302376 : bug or feature

2014-04-04 Thread Shweta shweta
Hi all, I've logged a bug in trove. I'm a little unsure if this is a bug or feature. Please have a look at the bug @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1302376 and suggest if it is valid. Thanks, Shweta | Consultant Engineering GlobalLogic www.globallogic.com http://www.globallogic.com/

Re: [openstack-dev] 1302376 : bug or feature

2014-04-04 Thread Denis Makogon
Goodday Shweta, it's a definitely a bug, thanks for registering the bug-report. Best regards, Denis Makogon On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Shweta shweta shw...@globallogic.comwrote: Hi all, I've logged a bug in trove. I'm a little unsure if this is a bug or feature. Please have a look

[openstack-dev] [tempest]:Please updated etherpad before adding tempest tests

2014-04-04 Thread Kekane, Abhishek
Hello everyone, This is regarding implementation of blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/testcases-expansion-icehouse. As per mentioned in etherpads for this blueprint, please add your name if you are working on any of the items mentioned in the list. Otherwise efforts will

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota Management

2014-04-04 Thread Julie Pichon
On 03/04/14 23:20, Jay Pipes wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 14:41 -0500, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:16 +, Cazzolato, Sergio J wrote: Jay, thanks for taking ownership on this idea, we are really interested to contribute to this, so what do you think are the next steps

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Tempest without branches

2014-04-04 Thread David Kranz
On 04/04/2014 07:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: An interesting conversation has cropped up over the last few days in -qa and -infra which I want to bring to the wider OpenStack community. When discussing the use of Tempest as part of the Defcore validation we came to an interesting question: Why does

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Icehouse RC1 available

2014-04-04 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hello everyone, Sahara published its first Icehouse release candidate today. The list of bugs fixed since feature freeze and the RC1 tarball are available at: https://launchpad.net/sahara/icehouse/icehouse-rc1 Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin,

Re: [openstack-dev] Marconi PTL Candidacy

2014-04-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 03/04/14 17:53 +, Kurt Griffiths wrote: [snip] If elected, my priorities during Juno will include: 1. Operational Maturity: Marconi is already production-ready, but we still have work to do to get to world-class reliability, monitoring, logging, and efficiency. 2. Documentation: During

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Problems with software config and Heat standalone configurations

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Elder
No problem. Filed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1302578 for continued discussion. -M Kind Regards, Michael D. Elder STSM | Master Inventor mdel...@us.ibm.com | linkedin.com/in/mdelder Success is not delivering a feature; success is learning

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent] Ironic-python-agent

2014-04-04 Thread Ling Gao
Hello Vladimir, I would prefer an agent-less node, meaning the agent is only used under the ramdisk OS to collect hw info, to do firmware updates and to install nodes etc. In this sense, the agent running as root is fine. Once the node is installed, the agent should be out of the picture.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo][Nova][Heat] Sample config generator issue

2014-04-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/04/14 08:48, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: We have an issue in Heat where the sample config generator from Oslo is currently broken (see bug #1288586).

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Problems with Heat software configurations and KeystoneV2

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Elder
Opened in Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1302624 I still have concerns though about the design approach of creating a new project for every stack and new users for every resource. If I provision 1000 patterns a day with an average of 10 resources per pattern, you're looking

Re: [openstack-dev] Issues with Python Requests

2014-04-04 Thread Donald Stufft
On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Chuck Thier cth...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, Now that swift has aligned with the other projects to use requests in python-swiftclient, we have lost a couple of features. 1. Requests doesn't support expect: 100-continue. This is very useful for services

[openstack-dev] [nova][ironic] BaremetalHostManager unused?

2014-04-04 Thread Matthew Booth
Whilst looking at something unrelated in HostManager, I noticed that HostManager.service_states appears to be unused, and decided to remove it. This seems to have a number of implications: 1. capabilities in HostManager.get_all_host_states will always be None. 2. capabilities passed to

Re: [openstack-dev] Issues with Python Requests

2014-04-04 Thread Chuck Thier
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: requests should work fine if you used the event let monkey patch the socket module prior to import requests. That's what I had hoped as well (and is what swift-bench did already), but it performs the same if I monkey patch

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Release Notes for Icehouse

2014-04-04 Thread Yaguang Tang
Hi all, I think it's important for our developers to publish an official Release Note as other core openstack projects does at the end of Icehouse development cycle, it contains the new features added and upgrade issue to be noticed by the users. any one like to be volunteer to help accomplish

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent] Ironic-python-agent

2014-04-04 Thread Dickson, Mike (HP Servers)
+1 From: Ling Gao [mailto:ling...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 10:10 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent] Ironic-python-agent Hello Vladimir,

Re: [openstack-dev] Help in re-running openstack

2014-04-04 Thread Dean Troyer
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Deepak Shetty dpkshe...@gmail.com wrote: Shiva, Can u tell what exactly u r trying to change in /opt/stack/ ? My guess is that u might be running into stack.sh re-pulling the sources hence overriding ur changes ? Try with OFFLINE=True in localrc (create a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent] Ironic-python-agent

2014-04-04 Thread Jay Faulkner
+1 The agent is a tool Ironic is using to take the place of a hypervisor to discover and prepare nodes to recieve workloads. For hardware, this includes more work -- such as firmware flashing, bios configuration, and disk imaging -- all of which must be done in an OOB manner.

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally] Tenant quotas can now be updated during a benchmark

2014-04-04 Thread Bruno Semperlotti
Hi Joshua, Quotas will not be expanded during the scenario, they will be updated *prior* the scenario with the requested values as context of this scenario. If values are too low, the scenario will continue to fail. This update does not allow to benchmark quotas update modification time.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] minimal scope covered by third-party testing

2014-04-04 Thread Armando M.
Hi Simon, You are absolutely right in your train of thoughts: unless the third-party CI monitors and vets all the potential changes it cares about there's always a chance something might break. This is why I think it's important that each Neutron third party CI should not only test Neutron

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Release Notes for Icehouse

2014-04-04 Thread Mark McClain
On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Yaguang Tang yaguang.t...@canonical.commailto:yaguang.t...@canonical.com wrote: I think it's important for our developers to publish an official Release Note as other core openstack projects does at the end of Icehouse development cycle, it contains the new

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest]:Please updated etherpad before adding tempest tests

2014-04-04 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Kekane, Abhishek abhishek.kek...@nttdata.com wrote on 04/04/2014 06:26:58 AM: This is regarding implementation of blueprint https:// blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/testcases-expansion-icehouse. As per mentioned in etherpads for this blueprint, please add your name if you are

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Heat] TripleO Heat Templates and merge.py

2014-04-04 Thread Tomas Sedovic
Hi All, I was wondering if the time has come to document what exactly are we doing with tripleo-heat-templates and merge.py[1], figure out what needs to happen to move away and raise the necessary blueprints on Heat and TripleO side. (merge.py is a script we use to build the final TripleO Heat

[openstack-dev] PTL Voting is now open

2014-04-04 Thread Anita Kuno
Elections are underway and will remain open for you to cast your vote until at least 1300 utc April 11, 2014. We are having elections for Nova, Neutron, Cinder, Ceilometer, Heat and TripleO. If you are a Foundation individual member and had a commit in one of the program's projects[0] over the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent]

2014-04-04 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Vladimir Kozhukalov vkozhuka...@mirantis.com wrote: On the other hand, it is easy to imagine a situation when you want to run agent on every node of your cluster after installing OS. It could be useful to keep hardware info consistent (for example, many

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [oslo] Using oslo.cache in keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token

2014-04-04 Thread Dean Troyer
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Kurt Griffiths kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com wrote: It appears the current version of oslo.cache is going to bring in quite a few oslo libraries that we would not want keystone client to depend on [1]. Moving the middleware to a separate library would solve

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [oslo] Using oslo.cache in keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token

2014-04-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Kurt Griffiths kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com wrote: It appears the current version of oslo.cache is going to bring in quite a few oslo libraries that we would not want keystone client to

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally] Tenant quotas can now be updated during a benchmark

2014-04-04 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Bruno, Btw great idea add benchmark scenarios for quotas as well! Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Bruno Semperlotti bruno.semperlo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joshua, Quotas will not be expanded during the scenario, they will be updated *prior* the scenario with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2014-04-04 02:54:05 -0700: Hi Steve, Thomas I'm glad the discussion is so constructive! If we add type interfaces to HOT this may do the job. Applications in AppCatalog need to be portable across OpenStack clouds. Thus if we use some globally-unique

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent]

2014-04-04 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On April 4, 2014 at 9:12:56 AM, Devananda van der Veen (devananda@gmail.com) wrote: Ironic's responsibility ends where the host OS begins. Ironic is a bare metal provisioning service, not a configuration management service. +1 // jim ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent]

2014-04-04 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
There are lots of configuration management agents already out there (chef? puppet? salt? ansible? ... the list is pretty long these days...) which you can bake into the images that you deploy with Ironic, but I'd like to be clear that, in my opinion, Ironic's responsibility ends where the host

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent]

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vladimir Kozhukalov's message of 2014-04-04 05:19:41 -0700: Hello, everyone, I'd like to involve more people to express their opinions about the way how we are going to run Ironic-python-agent. I mean should we run it with root privileges or not. From the very beginning

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent]

2014-04-04 Thread Ling Gao
seems that this discussion is splitted in 2 threads Lucas, That's because I added a subject when responded. :-) Ling Gao From: Lucas Alvares Gomes lucasago...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent]

2014-04-04 Thread Ezra Silvera
Ironic's responsibility ends where the host OS begins. Ironic is a bare metal provisioning service, not a configuration management service. I agree with the above, but just to clarify I would say that Ironic shouldn't *interact* with the host OS once it booted. Obviously it can still perform

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Heat] TripleO Heat Templates and merge.py

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-04-04 08:47:46 -0700: Hi All, I was wondering if the time has come to document what exactly are we doing with tripleo-heat-templates and merge.py[1], figure out what needs to happen to move away and raise the necessary blueprints on Heat and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-04 Thread Stan Lagun
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: IMO that is not really true and trying to stick all these databases into one SQL database interface is not a use case I'm interested in pursuing. Indeed. Any SQL database is a useless interface. What I was trying to say is

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-04 Thread Jiří Stránský
On 3.4.2014 13:02, Robert Collins wrote: Getting back in the swing of things... Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted with

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][glance][heat][neutron][nova] Quick fix for upstream-translation-update Jenkins job failing (bug 1299349)

2014-04-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 04/04/2014 05:57 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: tl;dr: $ python clean_po.py PROJECT/locale/ $ git commit The comments on bug 1299349 are already quite long, so apparently this got lost. To save everyone some time, the fix is as easy as above. So what's clean_po.py? Devananda van der

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-04 Thread Meghal Gosalia
I am fine with taking the approach of user passing multiple avail. zones Az1,Az2 if he wants vm to be in (intersection of AZ1 and Az2). It will be more cleaner. But, similar approach should also be used while setting the default_scheduling_zone. Since, we will not be able to add host to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-04-03 04:02:20 -0700: Getting back in the swing of things... Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-04 Thread Jan Provazník
On 04/03/2014 01:02 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Getting back in the swing of things... Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Problems with Heat software configurations and KeystoneV2

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Elder's message of 2014-04-04 07:16:55 -0700: Opened in Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1302624 I still have concerns though about the design approach of creating a new project for every stack and new users for every resource. If I provision 1000

Re: [openstack-dev] Issues with Python Requests

2014-04-04 Thread Chuck Thier
I think I have worked out the performance issues with eventlet and Requests with most of it being that swiftclient needs to make use of requests.session to re-use connections, and there are likely other areas there that we can make improvements. Now on to expect: 100-continue support, has anyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Better handling of lists in Heat - a proposal to add a map function

2014-04-04 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/02/14 02:48, Clint Byrum wrote: Since picking up Heat and trying to think about how to express clusters of things, I've been troubled by how poorly the CFN language supports using lists. There has always been the Fn::Select function for dereferencing arrays and maps, and recently we added

Re: [openstack-dev] Issues with Python Requests

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Harlow
I found https://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/issues/713 Lukasahttps://github.com/Lukasa commented a month agohttps://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/issues/713#issuecomment-35594520 There's been no progress on this, and it's not high on the list of priorities for any of the core

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Tempest without branches

2014-04-04 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
(easier to insert my questions at top of discussion as they are more general) How would test deprecations work in a branchless Tempest? Right now, there is the discussion on removing the XML tests from Tempest, yet they are still valid for Havana and Icehouse. If they get removed, will they

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Heat] TripleO Heat Templates and merge.py

2014-04-04 Thread Zane Bitter
On 04/04/14 13:58, Clint Byrum wrote: We could keep roughly the same structure: a separate template for each OpenStack service (compute, block storage, object storage, ironic, nova baremetal). We would then use Heat environments to treat each of these templates as a custom resource (e.g.

[openstack-dev] [openstack] [nova] admin user create instance for another user/tenant

2014-04-04 Thread Xu (Simon) Chen
I wonder if there is a way to do the following. I have a user A with admin role in tenant A, and I want to create a VM in/for tenant B as user A. Obviously, I can use A's admin privilege to add itself to tenant B, but I want to avoid that. Based on the policy.json file, it seems doable:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Problems with Heat software configurations and KeystoneV2

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-04-04 18:48:40 -0700: On 04/04/2014 02:46 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Michael Elder's message of 2014-04-04 07:16:55 -0700: Opened in Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1302624 I still have concerns though about the design