Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Migrations in feature branch

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin Benton
If these are just feature branches and they aren't intended to be deployed for long life cycles, why don't we just skip the db migration and enable auto-schema generation inside of the feature branch? Then a migration can be created once it's time to actually merge into master. On Tue, Sep 23,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/22/2014 07:22 PM, Mark Washenberger wrote: Greetings, I will not be running for PTL for Glance for the Kilo release. I want to thank all of the nice folks I've worked with--especially the attendees and sponsors of the mid-cycle meetups, which I think were a major success and one of

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] adding James Carey to oslo-i18n-core

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 11:03 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: James Carey (jecarey) from IBM has done the 3rd most reviews of oslo.i18n this cycle [1]. His feedback has been useful, and I think he would be a good addition to the team for maintaining oslo.i18n. Let me know what you think, please. Doug

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 11:59 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 22:04, Joe Gordon wrote: To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread Zhipeng Huang
I think Joe's idea pretty sums it up, ASF model is definitely worth following (Mesos is awesome). Non layer #1 projects will still be shepherded but not that closely coupled to make OpenStack over-bloated. Incubation projects can't be just dropped. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Joe Gordon

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meeting agenda

2014-09-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi Folks! Please note that the IRC channel for the weekly Octavia meeting has changed (see below)! We've got the following agenda for tomorrow's Octavia meeting, so far: - Review progress on action items from last week - From blogan: Neutron lbaas v1 and v2 right now creates a neutron

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 24 September 2014 16:38, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/23/2014 10:29 PM, Steven Dake wrote: There is a deployment program - tripleo is just one implementation. Nope, that is not correct. Like it or not (I personally don't), Triple-O is *the* Deployment Program for OpenStack:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-09-23 21:38:37 -0700: On 09/23/2014 10:29 PM, Steven Dake wrote: There is a deployment program - tripleo is just one implementation. Nope, that is not correct. Like it or not (I personally don't), Triple-O is *the* Deployment Program for OpenStack:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/24/2014 03:48 AM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: I've taken a bit of time out of this thread, and I'd like to jump back in now and attempt to summarize what I've learned and hopefully frame it in such a way that it helps us to answer the question Thierry asked: I *loved* it! Thanks a

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
I am writing to announce my candidacy for OpenStack Deployment PTL. Those of you involved with the deployment program may be surprised to see my name here. I've been quiet lately, distracted by an experiment which was announced by Allison Randal a few months back. [1] The experiment has been

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Zhi Yan Liu
Hi Mark, Many thanks for your great work and leadership! Personally I have to say thank you for your mentorship for me. Let's still keep in touch in Glance/OpenStack. zhiyan On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Mark Washenberger mark.washenber...@markwash.net wrote: Greetings, I will not be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote: I'm pleased to announce the development of a new project Kolla which is Greek for glue :). Kolla has a goal of providing an implementation that deploys OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker. This project will begin as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/24/2014 12:06 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/23/2014 05:13 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: [snip] To

[openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Trove] Building new image for trove

2014-09-24 Thread Swapnil Kulkarni
Hello, Currently I am trying to use Trove services configured with devstack. The services are configured and it has also created a default datastore for MySQL image on ubuntu, but the launch instances always gets error polling timeout I tried the same installation with redstack, created new image

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 08:26:44AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:27:52PM +0400, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: Michael Still wrote: Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
-Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:19 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group On 09/23/2014 05:03 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-24 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
-Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:47 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation On 09/22/2014 04:27 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Migrations in feature branch

2014-09-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Relying again on automatic schema generation could be error-prone. It can only be enabled globally, and does not work when models are altered if the table for the model being altered already exists in the DB schema. I don't think it would be a big problem to put these migrations in the main

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Please keep me in the loop. The importance of ensuring consistent style across Openstack APIs increases as the number of integrated project increases. Unless we decide to merge all API endpoints as proposed in another thread! [1] Regards, Salvatore [1]

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Why alarm name is unique per project?

2014-09-24 Thread Long Suo
Hi, all I am just a little confused why alarm name should be unique per project, anyone knows this? ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Why alarm name is unique per project?

2014-09-24 Thread Nejc Saje
On 09/24/2014 12:23 PM, Long Suo wrote: Hi, all I am just a little confused why alarm name should be unique per project, anyone knows this? Good point, I admit I can't find a compelling reason for that either. Perhaps someone else can? Also, an interesting use-case comes to mind, where

[openstack-dev] [Heat] stack-update with existing parameters

2014-09-24 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
TL;DR Is there any reason why stack-update doesn¹t reuse the existing parameters when I extend my stack definition with a resource that uses them? I have created a stack from the hello_world.yaml template (https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/hello_world.ya ml) It has the

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/18/2014 02:53 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all, I've recently been thinking a lot about Sean's Layers stuff. So I wrote a blog post which Jim Blair and Devananda were kind enough to help me edit. http://inaugust.com/post/108 When I first read Monty's post, my basic reaction was yes,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] stack-update with existing parameters

2014-09-24 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 24/09/14 13:50, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: TL;DR Is there any reason why stack-update doesn¹t reuse the existing parameters when I extend my stack definition with a resource that uses them? Hey Dimitri, There is an open bug for this feature: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1224828 and

[openstack-dev] [RelMgt] PTL candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
I am writing to announce my candidacy for OpenStack Release Cycle Management PTL. This is a little-known program, so I'll take the bi-yearly opportunity to explain what this covers: 1. Release Management This is about coordinating the process that will turn the master branches of the integrated

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/24/2014 05:26 AM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:47 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation On 09/22/2014

[openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-09-24 Thread Pasquale Porreca
Hello I would like to be able to specify the UUID of an instance when I create it. I found this discussion about this matter: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg22387.html but I could not find any blueprint, anyway I understood this modification should not comport any particular issue.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/09/14 17:59, Joe Gordon wrote: Zaqar is aiming for low latency per message, SQS doesn't appear to be. I've seen no evidence that Zaqar is actually aiming for that. There are waaay lower-latency ways to implement messaging if you don't care about durability (you wouldn't do

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/24/2014 03:57 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-09-23 21:38:37 -0700: On 09/23/2014 10:29 PM, Steven Dake wrote: There is a deployment program - tripleo is just one implementation. Nope, that is not correct. Like it or not (I personally don't), Triple-O

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Trove] Building new image for trove

2014-09-24 Thread Amrith Kumar
Swapnil, If the default image being created by devstack gives you a timeout on launch, I don’t think your issue is with the image itself. Your best guide (for now) for creating a guest image is to follow the template that devstack uses. I’m on the hook for writing some documentation on how to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/09/14 19:29, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: If 50,000 messages per second doesn't count as small-to-moderate then Zaqar does not fulfill a major SQS use case. It's not a drop-in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread James Slagle
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/24/2014 03:19 AM, Robert Collins wrote: On 24 September 2014 16:38, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/23/2014 10:29 PM, Steven Dake wrote: There is a deployment program - tripleo is just one implementation.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread James Slagle
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, James Slagle james.sla...@gmail.com wrote: And it looks to me like what's being proposed here is that there is a group of folks who intend to work on Knoll, and they are indicating Oops, I meant Kolla, obviously :-). -- -- James Slagle --

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] - do we need .start and .end notifications in all cases ?

2014-09-24 Thread Day, Phil
I think we should aim to /always/ have 3 notifications using a pattern of try: ...notify start... ...do the work... ...notify end... except: ...notify abort... Precisely my viewpoint as well. Unless we standardize on the above, our

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-09-24 Thread joehuang
+1. Or at least provide a way to specify an external UUID for the instance, and can retrieve the instance through the external UUID which may be linked to external system's object. Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) 发件人: Pasquale Porreca

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/24/2014 09:41 AM, James Slagle wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: There are zero programs in the OpenStack governance repository that have competing implementations for the same thing. Like it or not, the TC process of blessing these teams has

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] - do we need .start and .end notifications in all cases ?

2014-09-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/24/2014 09:48 AM, Day, Phil wrote: I think we should aim to /always/ have 3 notifications using a pattern of try: ...notify start... ...do the work... ...notify end... except: ...notify abort... Precisely my viewpoint as well. Unless we standardize on the above, our notifications are

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Trove] Building new image for trove

2014-09-24 Thread Swapnil Kulkarni
Hi Amrith, Thanks for the response. I did check that, the instance is active and I can access it. Is there anyway to check the guestagent in the image, update if its required and create snapshot which can be used later? Best Regards, Swapnil Kulkarni irc : coolsvap On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:08

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Gordon Sim
Apologies in advance for possible repetition and pedantry... On 09/24/2014 02:48 AM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: 2. Single Delivery - each message must be processed *exactly* once Example: Using a queue to process votes. Every vote must be counted only once. It is also important to

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Trove] Building new image for trove

2014-09-24 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Ive had good luck recently enabling heat suppprt and then tweaking the trove default template to use a standard image and install the guest agent at launch. So no custom image needed. Thanks, Kevin From: Swapnil Kulkarni Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Alex Xu
I'm interesting in the group too! On 2014年09月24日 18:01, Salvatore Orlando wrote: Please keep me in the loop. The importance of ensuring consistent style across Openstack APIs increases as the number of integrated project increases. Unless we decide to merge all API endpoints as proposed in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Akihiro Motoki
It is an important topics towards good user experience. There are many inconsistencies across projects and every API has pros and cons. We need to share API best practices and it is nice. I am interested in the topic both as Neutron developer and from API consumer as Horizon developer. If the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Lance Bragstad
You can add me to this list as well. Thanks! Lance On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alex Xu x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: I'm interesting in the group too! On 2014年09月24日 18:01, Salvatore Orlando wrote: Please keep me in the loop. The importance of ensuring consistent style across

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 9/24/14, 9:51 AM, Lance Bragstad lbrags...@gmail.com wrote: You can add me to this list as well. Thanks! Lance On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alex Xu x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: I'm interesting in the group too! On 2014年09月24日 18:01, Salvatore Orlando wrote: Please keep me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-24 Thread Brant Knudson
vNext seems an interesting idea, I thought the implementation way for Nova a little. API Route Discoverability is a nice design, but a root / URL will conflict on current list versions API. Maybe there would be a workaround. Completely agreed, Ken'ichi. The root URL that returns the

Re: [openstack-dev] [RelMgt] PTL candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 24/09/14 08:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: I am writing to announce my candidacy for OpenStack Release Cycle Management PTL. This is a little-known program, so I'll take the bi-yearly opportunity to explain what this covers: 1. Release Management This is about coordinating

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 24/09/14 04:03 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I am writing to announce my candidacy for OpenStack Deployment PTL. Those of you involved with the deployment program may be surprised to see my name here. I've been quiet lately, distracted by an experiment which was announced by Allison

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread James Slagle
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/24/2014 09:41 AM, James Slagle wrote: Meaning: exactly what you seem to claim is not possible due to some perceived blessing, is indeed in fact happening, or trying to come about. :) Talking about something on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Brad Topol
I am interested in participating as well. Thanks, Brad Brad Topol, Ph.D. IBM Distinguished Engineer OpenStack (919) 543-0646 Internet: bto...@us.ibm.com Assistant: Kendra Witherspoon (919) 254-0680 From: Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com To: Dolph Mathews

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Covergence: Persisting dependency task graph and resource versioning

2014-09-24 Thread Anant Patil
Hi, The convergence spec is really big to be seen and understood in entirety without going through multiple iterations. It is probably a good idea to break the spec into multiple implementable specs and move a chunk of material from main convergence spec to individual implementable specs like

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:18 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: Yes, I'd be willing to head up the working group... or at least participate in it. I'll raise my hand to participate… -- Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com Rackspace ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-24 Thread Anant Patil
On 24-Sep-14 00:25, Joshua Harlow wrote: I believe heat has its own dependency graph implementation but if that was switched to networkx[1] that library has a bunch of nice read/write capabilities. See: https://github.com/networkx/networkx/tree/master/networkx/readwrite And one made for

Re: [openstack-dev] pycharm license?

2014-09-24 Thread Andrew Melton
Hey Devs, I just got clarification on what it was meant by 'commercial developer.' If developer participates in commercial consulting, develops commercial per-order customization / implementation for OpenStack (if any) – they are considered a commercial developer. As long as you do not meet

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'd be willing to head up the working group... or at least participate in it. I'll bring an API consumer's perspective. dt -- Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] stack-update with existing parameters

2014-09-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/09/14 08:47, Tomas Sedovic wrote: On 24/09/14 13:50, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: TL;DR Is there any reason why stack-update doesn¹t reuse the existing parameters when I extend my stack definition with a resource that uses them? Hey Dimitri, There is an open bug for this feature:

Re: [openstack-dev] pycharm license?

2014-09-24 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 24/09/2014 17:41, Andrew Melton a écrit : Hey Devs, I just got clarification on what it was meant by 'commercial developer.' If developer participates in commercial consulting, develops commercial per-order customization / implementation for OpenStack (if any) – they are considered a

[openstack-dev] [NFV] Meeting Minutes for 2014-09-24

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Gordon
Hi all, Thanks to those who attended today's meeting, please find links to the minutes and log below: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-09-24-14.03.html Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-09-24-14.03.txt Log:

[openstack-dev] [QA] Meeting Thursday September 25th at 17:00 UTC

2014-09-24 Thread Matthew Treinish
Hi Everyone, Just a quick reminder that the weekly OpenStack QA team IRC meeting will be this Thursday, September 25th at 17:00 UTC in the #openstack-meeting channel. The agenda for tomorrow's meeting can be found here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting Anyone is welcome to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Everett Toews
On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: I'll bring an API consumer's perspective. +1 I’d bring an API consumer’s perspective as well. Looks like there’s lots of support for an API WG. What’s the next step? Form a WG under the User Committee [1] or is there

[openstack-dev] [OSSN 0029] Neutron FWaaS rules lack port restrictions when using protocol 'any'

2014-09-24 Thread Nathan Kinder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neutron FWaaS rules lack port restrictions when using protocol 'any' - --- ### Summary ### A bug in the Neutron FWaaS (Firewall as a Service) code results in iptables rules being generated that do not reflect desired port restrictions. This behaviour

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread David Stanek
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'd be willing to head up the working group... or at least participate in it. I'll bring an API consumer's perspective. I would love to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/24/2014 12:48 PM, Everett Toews wrote: On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: I'll bring an API consumer's perspective. +1 I’d bring an API consumer’s perspective as well. Looks like there’s lots of support for an API WG. What’s the next step? Form a WG

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] The horse is dead. Long live the horse.

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Sorry for the vague subject[1]. I just wanted to commend Flavio Percoco and the Zaqar team for maintaining poise and being excellent citizens of OpenStack whilst being questioned intensely by the likes of me, and others. I feel that this questioning has been useful, and will allow us to reason

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sounds like an interesting project/goal and will be interesting to see where this goes. A few questions/comments: How much golang will people be exposed to with this addition? Seeing that this could be the first 'go' using project it will be interesting to see where this goes (since afaik

Re: [openstack-dev] [Sahara][Doc] Filing a bug for modifying the image

2014-09-24 Thread Andrew Lazarev
Hi Sharan, Yes, file bug, commit new image to review. Thanks, Andrew. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Sharan Kumar M sharan.monikan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In this documentation http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/overview.html#details, the missing services were added. And I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] The horse is dead. Long live the horse.

2014-09-24 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/24/2014 06:07 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: I just wanted to commend Flavio Percoco and the Zaqar team for maintaining poise and being excellent citizens of OpenStack whilst being questioned intensely by the likes of me, and others. +1 ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] The horse is dead. Long live the horse.

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/24/2014 07:07 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Sorry for the vague subject[1]. I just wanted to commend Flavio Percoco and the Zaqar team for maintaining poise and being excellent citizens of OpenStack whilst being questioned intensely by the likes of me, and others. And I'd personally like to

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 18/09/14 14:53, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all, I've recently been thinking a lot about Sean's Layers stuff. So I wrote a blog post which Jim Blair and Devananda were kind enough to help me edit. http://inaugust.com/post/108 Thanks Monty, I think there are some very interesting ideas in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Tim Bell
Seems like there is some overlap with the end user (i.e. consumer) working group at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/End_User_Working_Group Sounds like it would be worth discussing with them on how to focus on these needs. The scope of the end user is much larger than just the API but a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Why alarm name is unique per project?

2014-09-24 Thread ZhiQiang Fan
@Nejc Saje you're talking about group alarm, I'm going to try it on Kilo On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Nejc Saje ns...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/24/2014 12:23 PM, Long Suo wrote: Hi, all I am just a little confused why alarm name should be unique per project, anyone knows this? Good

[openstack-dev] sw process

2014-09-24 Thread Tracy Jones
Folks – we have gotten into a couple of loose habits in our mad dash to beta 1 that we need to tighten up on. I’ve asked Ryan to set geritt up to fail reviews when the commit id does not contain one of the following, so please add them to your commit. In addition please make your commit

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-09-23 21:14:47 -0700: No one helped me edit this :) http://rbtcollins.wordpress.com/2014/09/24/what-poles-for-the-tent/ I hope I haven't zoned out and just channelled someone else here ;) This sounds like API's are what matters. You did

Re: [openstack-dev] sw process

2014-09-24 Thread Tracy Jones
SORRY – please ignore that email – it was clearly internal…… I used the wrong ML (blush) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 09/24/2014 10:05 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Whatever it ends up being, it needs to have some teeth to it. Otherwise, we're going to end up in the exact same place we're in now, where each project does something slightly different. +1 I think getting started and produce some material to discuss

Re: [openstack-dev] sw process

2014-09-24 Thread Anita Kuno
On 09/24/2014 02:51 PM, Tracy Jones wrote: SORRY – please ignore that email – it was clearly internal…… I used the wrong ML (blush) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] Juno release images

2014-09-24 Thread Michael McCune
here are the updated fedora images, could we get them hosted at sahara-files.mirantis.com please https://mimccune.fedorapeople.org/sahara-juno-vanilla-1.2.1-fedora-20.qcow2 https://mimccune.fedorapeople.org/sahara-juno-vanilla-2.4.1-fedora-20.qcow2 md5sum 7e8a39bb4d43ebf07ceeaf66670d8726

Re: [openstack-dev] usability anti-pattern, part 2

2014-09-24 Thread Ed Leafe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/19/2014 09:01 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: except exc.Unauthorized: raise exc.CommandError(Invalid OpenStack credentials.) except exc.AuthorizationFailure: raise exc.CommandError(Unable to authorize user)

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/09/14 22:37, Monty Taylor wrote: I think we can do what you're saying and generalize a little bit. What if we declared programs, as needed, when we think there is a need to pick a winner. (I think we can all agree that early winner picking is an unintended but very real side effect of the

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread David Kranz
On 09/24/2014 02:48 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-09-23 21:14:47 -0700: No one helped me edit this :) http://rbtcollins.wordpress.com/2014/09/24/what-poles-for-the-tent/ I hope I haven't zoned out and just channelled someone else here ;) This sounds

[openstack-dev] [Sahara][Doc] Features overview suggests Cinder to increase reliability

2014-09-24 Thread Sharan Kumar M
Hi all, In this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1371360 its said that Cinder itself has replication and using it with HDFS will increase replication even more. That said, will mentioning this in the documentation and also stating that it makes sense to use Cinder when replication

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-24 13:55:57 -0400 (-0400), Zane Bitter wrote: [...] * Assumption #2: Yawnoc's Law Don't bother Googling that, I just made it up. It's the reverse of Conway's Law: Infra engineers who design governance structures for OpenStack are constrained to produce designs that are

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Documentation process

2014-09-24 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi, I would like to discuss the documentation process and align it to OpenStack flow. At the moment we add special tags to bugs in Launchpad which is not optimal as everyone can add/remove tags cannot participate in documentation process or enforce documentation process. I suggest to switch to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-09-24 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Hi Joe, Tools like Pumphouse [1] (migrates workloads, e.g. instances, between two OpenStack clouds) would benefit from supporting this (Pumphouse would be able to replicate user instances in a new cloud up to their UUIDs). Are there any known gotchas with support of this feature in REST APIs (in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-09-24 Thread Dean Troyer
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Are there any known gotchas with support of this feature in REST APIs (in general)? I'd be worried about relying on a user-defined attribute in that use case, that's ripe for a DOS. Since these are cloud-unique I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 24/09/14 04:28 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, I would like to announce my candidacy for the PTL role of the Bare Metal Provisioning program. I have been the PTL of Ironic since I began the project at the Havana summit, and I am partly to blame for the baremetal

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM, David Stanek dsta...@dstanek.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'd be willing to head up the working group... or at least participate

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'd be willing to head up the working group... or at least participate in it. I am certainly interested, count me in. Chmouel ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-09-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
The Neutron L3 Subteam will meet tomorrow at the regular time and place. The agenda and details are posted [1]. I think the RC1 ship will have sailed for most potential fixes by then so I'd like to take some time during the meeting tomorrow to chat about the work that is coming up for Kilo.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Nova] Does glance support upper case key/value pair?

2014-09-24 Thread Fei Long Wang
Yes, IIRC, these extra properties will be handled to lower case, see https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/common/utils.py#L236 What's the nova bug you're talking about? Cheers. On 24/09/14 16:21, Chen CH Ji wrote: Got following result when doing bug analysis on nova , is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-09-24 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/24/2014 3:17 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com mailto:rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Are there any known gotchas with support of this feature in REST APIs (in general)? I'd be worried about relying on a user-defined

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread James Slagle
I'd like to announce my candidacy for TripleO PTL. I think most folks who have worked in the TripleO community probably know me. For those who don't, I work for Red Hat, and over the last year and a half that I've been involved with TripleO I've worked in different areas. My focus has been on

Re: [openstack-dev] Having a problem regarding git review.

2014-09-24 Thread Tahmina Ahmed
Thanks Julie! It worked. Actually I had different email address as a foundation member and for gerrit account. At last I could submit my first fix. Sorry for the late reply. And thank you very much once again for your help. Thanks Regards, Tahmina Ahmed On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Julie

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Sept 25 1800 UTC

2014-09-24 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Next_meetings http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Sahara+Meetingiso=20140925T18 -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Interaction with Barbican and Keystone

2014-09-24 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi Adam, For me the thing needs to be user friendly. So my main question is how do things look in Horizon? Will there just be a popup saying Establish Trust (Y/N). I am wondering as you how other teams are handling that... Thanks, German -Original Message- From: Adam Harwell

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2014-09-23 15:40:29 -0700: *Hi folks,*** * I'm pleased to announce the development of a new project Kolla which is Greek for glue :). Kolla has a goal of providing an implementation that deploys OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker. This project

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Migrations in feature branch

2014-09-24 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Apparently I've mistakenly though that feature branch will form separate optional component. If it will eventually be a part of neutron - then it's fine. Thanks, Eugene. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Relying again on automatic schema generation

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Interaction with Barbican and Keystone

2014-09-24 Thread Adam Harwell
Yeah, I was hoping for something like that... Essentially, Horizon would need to detect that particular response and be prepared to make a simple Yes/No dialog pop up to create that Trust, then continue with the original operation again automatically afterwards. That said, I have not looked at

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Steven I have to ask what is the motivation and benefits we get from integrating Kubernetes into Openstack? Would be really useful if you can elaborate and outline some use cases and benefits Openstack and Kubernetes can gain. /Alan From: Steven Dake [mailto:sd...@redhat.com] Sent:

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Release criticality of bug 1365606 (get_network_info efficiency for nova-network)

2014-09-24 Thread Michael Still
Hi, so, I'd really like to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121663/ merged in rc1. That patch is approved right now. However, it depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119521/, which is not approved. 119521 fixes a problem where we make five RPC calls per call to get_network_info, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] The horse is dead. Long live the horse.

2014-09-24 Thread Fox, Kevin M
+1 From: Gordon Sim [g...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:26 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] The horse is dead. Long live the horse. On 09/24/2014 06:07 PM, Clint

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