[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Rethinking the launch-instance wizard model

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Jones
Hi folks, Currently the launch instance model file does all the fetching of various bits of data. Combined with all of the controllers also being loaded at wizard startup, this results in some very difficult synchronisation issues*. An issue I've run into is the initialisation of the controller

Re: [openstack-dev] [murano] how can deploy environment with useEnvironmentNerwork=false

2015-03-10 Thread Ekaterina Chernova
Hi Choe! Why do you want to set this option to false? In that way new instance will not be connected to the environment network. Do you have any issues with the deployment? If you still want to try the deployment without handling networks by default, you need to set default value of specified

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Recent issues with our review workflow

2015-03-10 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 09 Mar 2015, at 18:21, Ryan Moe r...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi All, I've noticed a few times recently where reviews have been abandoned by people who were not the original authors. These reviews were only days old and there was no prior notice or discussion. This is both rude and

[openstack-dev] [vmware] Alternate meeting times

2015-03-10 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, As mentioned a few weeks ago we would like to have alternate meeting times for the Vmware driver(s) meeting. So for all interested lets meet tomorrow at 10:00 UTC on #openstack-meeting-4. Thanks Gary __ OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] blueprint about multiple workers supported in nova-scheduler

2015-03-10 Thread Attila Fazekas
- Original Message - From: Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:22:43 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] blueprint about multiple workers supported in nova-scheduler On 03/04/2015 01:51 AM, Attila Fazekas

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Recent issues with our review workflow

2015-03-10 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 03/09/2015 06:21 PM, Ryan Moe wrote: Hi All, I've noticed a few times recently where reviews have been abandoned by people who were not the original authors. These reviews were only days old and there was no prior notice or discussion. This is both rude and discouraging to contributors.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Unshelve Instance Performance Optimization Questions

2015-03-10 Thread Kekane, Abhishek
Hi Devs, As another alternative we can use start/stop API’s instead of shelve/unshelve the instance. API’s cpu/memory released Disk released Fast respawning Notes start/stop No No Yes shelve/unshelve Yes Yes (Not released if shelved_offload_time = -1) No Instance does not respawn

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-10 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:14:21 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/09/2015 03:37 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 03/08/2015 08:10 AM, Alex Xu wrote: Thanks for Jay point this out! If we have agreement on this and document it, that will be great for guiding developer how to add new API.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] blueprint about multiple workers supported in nova-scheduler

2015-03-10 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 03/06/2015 03:19 PM, Attila Fazekas wrote: Looks like we need some kind of _per compute node_ mutex in the critical section, multiple scheduler MAY be able to schedule to two compute node at same time, but not for scheduling to the same compute node. If we don't want to introduce

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from ool

2015-03-10 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks for bringing up this use case Miguel - these are the use cases we need to make informed decisions. Some answers inline. Salvatore On 10 March 2015 at 07:53, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote: Thanks to everybody working on this, Answers inline: On Tuesday, 10 de March de

[openstack-dev] [murano] Application Usage Information Tracking

2015-03-10 Thread Darshan Mn
Hi everyone, I would like to know if the application usage information is tracked by the murano-agent? If not, how is it done? Is ceilometer used at all, anywhere? Regards Darshan __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] proposing rameshg87 to ironic-core

2015-03-10 Thread Faizan Barmawer
Though my vote does not count, definitely a +1 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Ruby Loo rlooya...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for sure! On 9 March 2015 at 18:03, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'd like to propose adding Ramakrishnan (rameshg87) to ironic-core.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] blueprint about multiple workers supported in nova-scheduler

2015-03-10 Thread Attila Fazekas
- Original Message - From: Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:53:01 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] blueprint about multiple workers supported in nova-scheduler On 03/06/2015 03:19 PM, Attila Fazekas

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][messaging][zmq] Discussion on zmq driver design issues

2015-03-10 Thread ozamiatin
Hi Li Ma, Thank you very much for your reply On 06.03.15 05:01, Li Ma wrote: Hi all, actually I'm writing the same mail topic for zeromq driver, but I haven't done it yet. Thank you for proposing this topic, ozamiatin. 1. ZeroMQ functionality Actually I proposed a session topic in the coming

Re: [openstack-dev] [murano] how can deploy environment with useEnvironmentNerwork=false

2015-03-10 Thread Serg Melikyan
Hi Cheng-Dae, We are working on improving supported networking schemes, please take a look on following commits: * https://review.openstack.org/152643 - Adds ability to join instances to existing Neutron networks * https://review.openstack.org/152747 - Configurable environment's default network

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecation of ComputeFilter

2015-03-10 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud)
Hi Sylvain, The list of filters does not only determine what conditions are checked, it also specifies the order in which they are checked. If I read the code right this change creates the worst case efficiency for this filter. Normally you would filter first on something that removes as many

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-10 Thread Mike Bayer
Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/09/2015 01:26 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: Im about -1000 on disabling foreign key constraints. So was I. We didn't do it out of performance. Since I am responsible for tipping over this particular cow, let me explain. No, is too much. Let me sum up.

Re: [openstack-dev] [murano] Application Usage Information Tracking

2015-03-10 Thread Serg Melikyan
Hi Darshan, Unfortunately application usage is not tracked in Murano in any way. We only have special logging message [1] that can help to organize tracking of usage using some sort tools for log analysis (e.g. Logstash). [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder]difference between spec merged and BP approval

2015-03-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hi David, On Sat, 2015-03-07 at 02:22 +, Chen, Wei D wrote: I thought the feature should be approved as long as the SPEC[1] is merged, but it seems I am wrong from the beginning[2], both of them (SPEC merged and BP approval[4][5]) is necessary and mandatory for getting some effective

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-10 Thread Mike Bayer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Please try to refrain from using false equivalence. ACID stands for Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability. Nowhere in there does it stand for referential integrity”. This point is admittedly controversial as I’ve had this debate before, but it

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][messaging][zmq] Discussion on zmq driver design issues

2015-03-10 Thread ozamiatin
Hi, Eric Thanks a lot for your comments. On 06.03.15 06:21, Eric Windisch wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:10 PM, ozamiatin ozamia...@mirantis.com mailto:ozamia...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, By this e-mail I'd like to start a discussion about current zmq driver internal design

Re: [openstack-dev] Driver documentation for Kilo [cinder] [neutron] [nova] [trove]

2015-03-10 Thread Anne Gentle
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Erlon Cruz sombra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne, How about driver documentation that is in the old format? Will it be removed in Kilo? Hi Erlon, The spec doesn't have a specific person assigned for removal, and the only drivers the docs team signed up for

Re: [openstack-dev] Driver documentation for Kilo [cinder] [neutron] [nova] [trove]

2015-03-10 Thread Erlon Cruz
Hi Anne, How about driver documentation that is in the old format? Will it be removed in Kilo? The wiki says: Bring all driver sections that are currently just ‘bare bones’ up to the standard mentioned. Will this be performed by core team? Thanks, Erlon On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Anne

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum][Heat] Expression of Bay Status

2015-03-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/03/15 23:47, Angus Salkeld wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Magnum Team, In the following review, we have the start of a discussion about how to tackle bay status:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] blueprint about multiple workers supported in nova-scheduler

2015-03-10 Thread Attila Fazekas
- Original Message - From: Attila Fazekas afaze...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 12:48:00 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] blueprint about multiple workers

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/09/2015 06:04 PM, melanie witt wrote: On Mar 9, 2015, at 13:14, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So possibly another way to think about this is our prior signaling of what was supported by Nova was signaled by the extension list. Our code was refactored into a way that supported

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] 3rd Party CI failures ignored, caused driver to break

2015-03-10 Thread Erlon Cruz
Agreed, CI systems are not reliable. Most of failures are related to mis-configuration or devstack problems, not driver problems itself. What happen then, is that people just don't care if there's a red FAILURE in the CIs results. A 4) option would be to rate CIs according to their trustfulness

[openstack-dev] [python-novaclient] Better wording for secgroup-*-default-rules? help text

2015-03-10 Thread Chris St. Pierre
I've just filed a bug on the confusing wording of help text for the secgroup-{add,delete,list}-default-rules? commands: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1430354 As I note in the bug, though, I'm not sure the best way to fix this. In an unconstrained world, I'd like to see

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Testtools 1.7.0 may error if you installed it before reading this email

2015-03-10 Thread Robert Collins
On 11 March 2015 at 13:59, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 11 March 2015 at 10:27, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: Great to hear that this has been addressed, as this impacted a few tests in keystone. (but why was the fix not released as 1.7.1?) There will be

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-novaclient] Better wording for secgroup-*-default-rules? help text

2015-03-10 Thread Chris St. Pierre
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 4:50 PM, melanie witt melwi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think your suggestion for the help text is excessively verbose. There are already longer help texts for some commands than that, and I think it's important to accurately explain what commands do. You can use a

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the OpenStack blog [1]. Part of the change is to recognize more projects as being

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the OpenStack blog [1]. Part of

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
Honestly, I'm a little frustrated that this is coming up now when we tried very hard to discuss this during the spec review and we thought we got to a resolution. It seems a little late to go back to the drawing board. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Unknown resource OS::Heat::ScaledResource

2015-03-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 04:26:28PM +, Manickam, Kanagaraj wrote: Hi, I observed in one of the patch mentioned below, OS::Heat::ScaledResource is reported as unknown, could anyone help here to resolve the issue. Thanks.

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Tidwell, Ryan ryan.tidw...@hp.com wrote: With implicit allocations, the thinking is that this is where a subnet is created in a backward-compatible way with no subnetpool_id and the subnets API’s continue to work as they always have. Correct. In the case of a

[openstack-dev] Second Release of Magnum

2015-03-10 Thread Adrian Otto
We are proud to announce our second release of Magnum [1]. This release [2] includes numerous improvements, including significant test code coverage, multi-tenancy support, scalable bays, and support for CoreOS Nodes, 8 bit character support, and 52 other enhancements, bug fixes, and technical

[openstack-dev] [Glance] [all] glance_store release 0.3.0

2015-03-10 Thread Nikhil Komawar
The glance_store release management team is pleased to announce: glance_store version 0.3.0 has been released on Tuesday March 10th around 1755 UTC. For more information, please find the details at: https://launchpad.net/glance-store/+milestone/v0.3.0 Please report the issues through

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the OpenStack blog [1]. Part of the change is to recognize more projects as being part of the

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
Neutron currently does not enforce the uniqueness, or non-overlap, of subnet cidrs within the address scope for a single tenant. For example, if a tenant chooses to use 10.0.0.0/24 on more than one subnet, he or she is free to do so. Problems will arise when trying to connect a router between

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Fawad Khaliq
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Gabriel Bezerra gabri...@lsd.ufcg.edu.br wrote: Em 10.03.2015 14:34, Gabriel Bezerra escreveu: Em 10.03.2015 14:24, Carl Baldwin escreveu: Neutron currently does not enforce the uniqueness, or non-overlap, of subnet cidrs within the address scope for a

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from ool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote: a) What if the subnet pools go into an external network, so, the gateway is predefined and external, we may want to be able to specify it, we could assume the convention that we’re going to expect the gateway to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Ryan Moats
Gabriel Bezerra gabri...@lsd.ufcg.edu.br wrote on 03/10/2015 12:34:30 PM: Em 10.03.2015 14:24, Carl Baldwin escreveu: Neutron currently does not enforce the uniqueness, or non-overlap, of subnet cidrs within the address scope for a single tenant. For example, if a tenant chooses to use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress]How to add tempest tests for testing murano drive

2015-03-10 Thread Wong, Hong
Hi Aaron, I just want to confirm how CI is running the congress tempest tests in its environment as I am about to check in a tempest test for testing murano deployment. If I check in the test script to congress/contrib/tempest/tempest/scenario/congress_datasources, the CI will take care of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Gabriel Bezerra
Em 10.03.2015 14:34, Gabriel Bezerra escreveu: Em 10.03.2015 14:24, Carl Baldwin escreveu: Neutron currently does not enforce the uniqueness, or non-overlap, of subnet cidrs within the address scope for a single tenant. For example, if a tenant chooses to use 10.0.0.0/24 on more than one

Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] FYI : Micro-versioning for Nova API

2015-03-10 Thread Ben Swartzlander
On 03/09/2015 08:48 PM, Li, Chen wrote: Hello Manila, I noticed there were some discussions about api extensions in the past few weeks. Looks like nova has similar discussions too. “Each extension gets a version”, if my understanding about the api extension discussion purpose is

Re: [openstack-dev] [log] Log working group -- Alternate moderator needed for today

2015-03-10 Thread Kuvaja, Erno
You mean for tomorrow? No worries, I can kick off the meeting and run through agenda if we have something to address. Take best out of the ops meetup! - Erno From: Rochelle Grober [mailto:rochelle.gro...@huawei.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:04 PM To: OpenStack Development

[openstack-dev] [oslo] must-fix bugs for final kilo releases

2015-03-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
I have started an etherpad to track bugs we consider critical for final releases of incubator modules and library code for Kilo. I added the 2 items discussed in yesterday's meeting, but please add other items to the list as needed so we can track them. Thanks, Doug

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Common library for shared code

2015-03-10 Thread James Slagle
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Jan Provazník jprov...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, it would make sense to have a library for the code shared by Tuskar UI and CLI (I mean TripleO CLI - whatever it will be, not tuskarclient which is just a thing wrapper for Tuskar API). There are various actions which

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Unknown resource OS::Heat::ScaledResource

2015-03-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 10/03/15 12:26, Manickam, Kanagaraj wrote: Hi, I observed in one of the patch mentioned below, OS::Heat::ScaledResource is reported as unknown, could anyone help here to resolve the issue. Thanks.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-10 Thread Adam Young
On 03/10/2015 10:23 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: if*that’s* what you mean, that’s known as a “polymorphic foreign key”, and it is not actually a foreign key at all, it is a terrible antipattern started by the PHP/Rails community and carried forth by projects like Django. A) Heh. it is much, much older

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Gabriel Bezerra
Em 10.03.2015 14:24, Carl Baldwin escreveu: Neutron currently does not enforce the uniqueness, or non-overlap, of subnet cidrs within the address scope for a single tenant. For example, if a tenant chooses to use 10.0.0.0/24 on more than one subnet, he or she is free to do so. Problems will

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: [...] We now have several new project proposals. However, I propose not approving any new projects until we have a tagging system that is at least far enough along to represent the set of criteria that we used to apply to all OpenStack projects (with exception for ones

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:31 PM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote: Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com writes: After watching the TC meeting, and double checking with the meeting notes [0], it looks like the magnum vote was deferred to next week. But what concerns me is the lack of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Testtools 1.7.0 may error if you installed it before reading this email

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Alan Pevec ape...@gmail.com wrote: The wheel has been removed from PyPI and anyone installing testtools 1.7.0 now will install from source which works fine. On stable/icehouse devstack fails[*] with pkg_resources.VersionConflict: (unittest2 0.5.1

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Testtools 1.7.0 may error if you installed it before reading this email

2015-03-10 Thread Robert Collins
On 11 March 2015 at 10:27, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: Great to hear that this has been addressed, as this impacted a few tests in keystone. (but why was the fix not released as 1.7.1?) There will be a new release indeed later today to fix a small UI issue on pypy3 which

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-novaclient] Better wording for secgroup-*-default-rules? help text

2015-03-10 Thread melanie witt
On Mar 10, 2015, at 19:28, Chris St. Pierre chris.a.st.pie...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, look at that! In some other projects, flake8 complains about a docstring whose first line doesn't end in a period, so I didn't think it'd be possible. If you don't think that's excessively verbose, there'll be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-10 Thread Mike Bayer
Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: I'm not entirely sure what you've said above actually prevents coders from relying on the constraints. Being careful about deleting all of the child rows before a parent is good practice. I have seen code like this in the past though: try:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum][Heat] Expression of Bay Status

2015-03-10 Thread Hongbin Lu
Hi Adrian, On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Magnum Team, In the following review, we have the start of a discussion about how to tackle bay status: https://review.openstack.org/159546 I think a key issue here is that we are not subscribing to

[openstack-dev] [neutron][third party] best packaging practices

2015-03-10 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, RDO project started to look into packaging some of vendor libraries that were split from neutron tree during Kilo for Delorean, and found some issues with some of pypi packages that were released in public. We feel that communicating each

[openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Russell Bryant
The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the OpenStack blog [1]. Part of the change is to recognize more projects as being part of the OpenStack community. Another critical part was replacing the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [all][qa][gabbi][rally][tempest] Extend rally verfiy to unify work with Gabbi, Tempest and all in-tree functional tests

2015-03-10 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
Hi, I like this idea, we use Rally for OpenStack clouds verification at scale and it is the real issue - how to run all functional tests from each project with the one script. If Rally will do this, I will use Rally to run these tests. Thank you! On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Chris Dent

[openstack-dev] [neutron][third party] Major third party CI breakage expected for out-of-tree plugins

2015-03-10 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, team is going to merge in a patch to migrate to oslo.log [1] in the very near future. This patch is expected to break all third party CI for all vendor libraries that were split from the main repo in Kilo and that rely on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Ceilometer] Real world experience with Ceilometer deployments - Feedback requested

2015-03-10 Thread gordon chung
sorry, i apparently don't know how to format emails... cheers, gord From: g...@live.ca To: openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org; openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:05:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Ceilometer] Real world experience with

Re: [openstack-dev] Driver documentation for Kilo [cinder] [neutron] [nova] [trove]

2015-03-10 Thread Erlon Cruz
Hi Anne, Thanks for the quick answer. One thing that still not clear for me is about the documentation that is currently there. Will it be removed (converted to the resumed version) in Kilo? If so what are the milestones for that? Erlon On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Anne Gentle

Re: [openstack-dev] Driver documentation for Kilo [cinder] [neutron] [nova] [trove]

2015-03-10 Thread Anne Gentle
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Erlon Cruz sombra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne, Thanks for the quick answer. One thing that still not clear for me is about the documentation that is currently there. Will it be removed (converted to the resumed version) in Kilo? If so what are the milestones

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Gabriel Bezerra gabri...@lsd.ufcg.edu.br wrote: Em 10.03.2015 14:24, Carl Baldwin escreveu: I'd vote for allowing against such restriction, but throwing an error in case of creating a router between the subnets. I can imagine a tenant running multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Lauren Sell
Dissolving the integrated release without having a solid plan and replacement is difficult to communicate to people who depend on OpenStack. We’re struggling on that front. That said, I’m still optimistic about project structure reform and think it could be beneficial to the development

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][vpnaas] VPNaaS Subteam meetings

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Michali
Given the votes so far, the proposal is to move the meeting time to 1600 UTC on Tuesday. The channel is openstack-meeting-3 (as the only one available). In addition, the meeting will be on-demand, so if you want to have a meeting, send email to this mailing list, at least 24 hours before the

Re: [openstack-dev] [stacktach] [oslo] stachtach - kombu - pika ??

2015-03-10 Thread Joshua Harlow
Maybe the plan for oslo.messaging should be to make it resolve some of the operators issues first ;-) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PHL-ops-rabbit-queue https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PHL-ops-large-deployments I'd rather think we should like ummm, be thinking about fixing issues instead

[openstack-dev] [all] Testtools 1.7.0 may error if you installed it before reading this email

2015-03-10 Thread Robert Collins
There was a broken wheel built when testtools 1.7.0 was released. The wheel was missing the _compat2x.py file used for 2.x only syntax in exception handling, for an unknown reason. (We know how to trigger it - build the wheel with Python 3.4). The wheel has been removed from PyPI and anyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-10 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 10 March 2015 at 16:48, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote: Honestly, I'm a little frustrated that this is coming up now when we tried very hard to discuss this during the spec review and we thought we got to a resolution. It seems a little late to go back to the drawing board. I

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 03/10/2015 12:29 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the OpenStack blog [1]. Part of the change is to recognize more projects as being part of the OpenStack community.

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-03-10 14:42:18 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] As to specific tags, I refer back to this: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.html We worked pretty hard to come up with useful things for projects to aim for. In fact, we

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: One point of clarification: On 03/10/2015 02:28 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Even more concerning is the sentiment of projects we want to consciously drop from Russell's original email. This was in reference to criteria defined in:

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Blocking the acceptance of new projects seems punitive and against the spirit of the big tent. Classification (tagging) can be done at any point, and is hardly fixed in stone. You can refine tags as needed. To put it harshly: it is a failure of both leadership and process to have stripped out

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Russell Bryant
One point of clarification: On 03/10/2015 02:28 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Even more concerning is the sentiment of projects we want to consciously drop from Russell's original email. This was in reference to criteria defined in:

Re: [openstack-dev] Controlling data sent to client

2015-03-10 Thread Rick Jones
On 03/10/2015 11:45 AM, Omkar Joshi wrote: Hi, I am using open stack swift server. Now say multiple clients are requesting 5GB object from server. The rate at which server can push data into server socket is much more than the rate at which client can read it from proxy server. Is there

Re: [openstack-dev] Controlling data sent to client

2015-03-10 Thread Omkar Joshi
Thanks Rick for a quick reply. Are you asking about the rate at which data might come from the object server(s) to the proxy and need to be held on the proxy while it is sent-on to the clients? Yes... the object sever will push faster and therefore accumulation of data in proxy server will be

Re: [openstack-dev] [stacktach] [oslo] stachtach - kombu - pika ??

2015-03-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
No, we're adding this to Yagi first and perhaps Notabene later. We don't need rpc support, so it's too big a change for us to take on. From: gordon chung g...@live.ca Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:58 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/10/2015 02:00 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: [...] We now have several new project proposals. However, I propose not approving any new projects until we have a tagging system that is at least far enough along to represent the set of criteria that we used to apply to

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: I guess that frustration has now become part of the norm for Openstack. It is not the first time I frustrate people because I ask to reconsider decisions approved in specifications. I'm okay revisiting decisions.

[openstack-dev] Controlling data sent to client

2015-03-10 Thread Omkar Joshi
Hi, I am using open stack swift server. Now say multiple clients are requesting 5GB object from server. The rate at which server can push data into server socket is much more than the rate at which client can read it from proxy server. Is there configuration / setting which we use to control /

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 10/03/15 12:29, Russell Bryant wrote: I feel that we're at a very vulnerable part of this transition. We've abolished the incubation process and integrated release. We've established a fairly low bar for new projects [2]. However, we have not yet approved*any* tags other than the one

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the OpenStack blog [1]. Part of the change is to recognize more projects as being

Re: [openstack-dev] [stacktach] [oslo] stachtach - kombu - pika ??

2015-03-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey J, Our (old) notification consumer was using carrot, which is dead but worked. Lately though there have been conflicts with carrot and msgpack, so we had to change. Around the same time, we ran into a bug where we were writing to an unnamed exchange (completely valid, but too easy to do

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat][Mistral] Use and adoption of YAQL

2015-03-10 Thread Stan Lagun
I would suggest to do the migration but not to merge it till official yaql 1.0 release which is going to happen soon. As for the docs it is still very hard to write them since yaql 1.0 has got tons on new features and hundreds of functions. Any help is appreciated. But 99% of yaql 1.0 features and

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/10/2015 02:43 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: We now have several new project proposals. However, I propose not approving any new projects until we have a tagging

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/10/2015 02:56 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: One point of clarification: On 03/10/2015 02:28 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Even more concerning is the sentiment of projects we want to consciously drop from Russell's original email. This was in reference to criteria

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/10/2015 02:28 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Blocking the acceptance of new projects seems punitive and against the spirit of the big tent. Classification (tagging) can be done at any point, and is hardly fixed in stone.

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] Cinder-GlusterFS CI update

2015-03-10 Thread Deepak Shetty
Hi All, Quick update. We added GlusterFS CI job (gate-tempest-dsvm-full-glusterfs) to *check pipeline (non-voting)* after the patch @ [1] was merged. Its been running successfully ( so far so good ) on Cinder patches, few examples are in [2] I also updated the 3rd party CI status page

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Volume Replication and Migration bug triage ...

2015-03-10 Thread Sheng Bo Hou
Hi all, https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1255622 For this bug, I have added some comments to explain why the orphaned volume that ends up in the end of the migration. @John Griffith, I hope this can resolve your confusion a bit. Best wishes, Vincent Hou (侯胜博) Staff Software Engineer,

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from ool

2015-03-10 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
Thanks to everybody working on this, Answers inline: On Tuesday, 10 de March de 2015 at 0:34, Tidwell, Ryan wrote: Thanks Salvatore. Here are my thoughts, hopefully there’s some merit to them: With implicit allocations, the thinking is that this is where a subnet is created in a

[openstack-dev] [kolla] about the image size

2015-03-10 Thread Bohai (ricky)
Hi, stackers I try to use the Kolla Images and pull them down from docker hub. I found the size of the image is bigger than what I thought(for example, the images of docker conductor service is about 1.4GB). Is it possible to get a more smaller images. Do we have the plan to minimize the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Rethinking the launch-instance wizard model

2015-03-10 Thread Tripp, Travis S
Richard, I have been thinking for some time that each step controller should be able to define the data it needs as well as manipulating it. Perhaps in the morning before you get up in Australia I could take a pass at converting that for access security. I’ll talk it over with Sean, since

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/03/15 12:29, Russell Bryant wrote: I feel that we're at a very vulnerable part of this transition. We've abolished the incubation process and integrated release. We've established a fairly low bar for new

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Testtools 1.7.0 may error if you installed it before reading this email

2015-03-10 Thread Dolph Mathews
Great to hear that this has been addressed, as this impacted a few tests in keystone. (but why was the fix not released as 1.7.1?) On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: There was a broken wheel built when testtools 1.7.0 was released. The wheel was

[openstack-dev] [qa] Question about is_admin_available()

2015-03-10 Thread David Kranz
In the process of writing a unit test for this I discovered that it can call out to keystone for a token with some configurations through the call to get_configured_credentials. This surprised me since I thought it would just check for the necessary admin credentials in either tempest.conf or

Re: [openstack-dev] new failures running Barbican functional tests

2015-03-10 Thread Douglas Mendizabal
Thanks for the insight, other Doug. :) It appears that this is in part due to the fact that Tempest has not yet updated to oslo_log and is still using incubator oslo.log. Can someone from the Tempest team chime in on what the status of migrating to oslo_log is? It’s imperative for us to fix

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-novaclient] Better wording for secgroup-*-default-rules? help text

2015-03-10 Thread melanie witt
On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:32, Chris St. Pierre chris.a.st.pie...@gmail.com wrote: I've just filed a bug on the confusing wording of help text for the secgroup-{add,delete,list}-default-rules? commands: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1430354 As I note in the bug, though, I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Question about is_admin_available()

2015-03-10 Thread Andrea Frittoli
Preventing the token request could be an improvement, as the token request might not be expected to happen in that method. If the token cannot be obtained because credentials are wrong, an exception will be triggered. If we removed the token request from is_admin_available, this scenario would be

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