Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/16/2013 12:07 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: In Debian, by policy, any package should be able to be installed using DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install. What I do in my postinst is calling db_sync, because that

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/16/2013 01:50 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: Make it work is an entirely different goal than make a production-ready deployment. If your goal in using sqlite is just to make it work then I'm not sure that I would expect such an install to survive to the next release, anyway... rendering

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 07/16/2013 12:07 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: In Debian, by policy, any package should be able to be installed using DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Could you explain a bit more what could be done to fix it in an easy way, even if it's not efficient? I understand that ALTER doesn't work well. Though would we have the possibility to just create a new temporary table

[openstack-dev] Reminder: Project release status meeting - 21:00 UTC

2013-07-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Today in the Project release status meeting, havana-2 is upon us ! We'll finalize havana-2 contents and get the sign-off for miletsone-proposed branch cuts at the end of the day. Feel free to add extra topics to the agenda: [1] http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting All Technical

Re: [openstack-dev] savanna version 0.3 - added UI mockups for EDP workflow

2013-07-16 Thread Ruslan Kamaldinov
Chad, I'd like to see more details about job progress on the Job list view. It should display current progress, logs, errors. For Hive, Pig and Oozie flows it would be useful to list all the jobs from the task. Something similar to https://github.com/twitter/ambrose would be great (without fancy

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Memcache user token index and PKI tokens

2013-07-16 Thread Kieran Spear
Hi Morgan, On 16/07/2013, at 1:02 AM, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Kieran Spear kisp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kieran, I'd be happy to help you with the backporting of this fix if you need any assistance. Here are some quick answers to your

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Memcache user token index and PKI tokens

2013-07-16 Thread Kieran Spear
On 16/07/2013, at 1:10 AM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/15/2013 04:06 AM, Kieran Spear wrote: Hi all, I want to backport the fix for the Token List in Memcache can consume an entire memcache page bug[1] to Grizzly, but I had a couple of questions: 1. Why do we need to store

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Is there need to implement CloudWatch compatible API for Ceilometer?

2013-07-16 Thread Guangyu Suo
Hi, all Since ceilometer is becoming stronger at monitoring side, more and more companies will use ceilometer as their monitoring service, and AWS CloudWatch API is more general for monitoring service, so I am wondering whether there is need to implement CloudWatch compatible API to make

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: DevStack

2013-07-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 15/07/13 14:14 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 07/15/2013 11:39 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: DevStack plays multiple roles in the development process for OpenStack. Does it really make sense to be its own program? There was mention of just making it a part of infra or QA. QA actually makes the

[openstack-dev] Moving task flow to conductor - concern about scale

2013-07-16 Thread Day, Phil
Hi Folks, Reviewing some the changes to move control flows into conductor made me wonder about an issue that I haven't seen discussed so far (apologies if it was and I've missed it): In the original context of using Conductor as a database proxy then the number of conductor instances is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:41:55AM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: (This email is with regards to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36316/) Hello All, I have been implementing the Guru Meditation Report blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/guru-meditation-report), and the

Re: [openstack-dev] Moving task flow to conductor - concern about scale

2013-07-16 Thread Dan Smith
In the original context of using Conductor as a database proxy then the number of conductor instances is directly related to the number of compute hosts I need them to serve. Just a point of note, as far as I know, the plan has always been to establish conductor as a thing that sits between

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: DevStack

2013-07-16 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:14 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 07/15/2013 11:39 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: DevStack plays multiple roles in the development process for OpenStack. Does it really make sense to be its own

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: DevStack

2013-07-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:14 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 07/15/2013 11:39 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: DevStack plays multiple roles in the development process for OpenStack. Does it really make sense to be its own program? There was mention of just making it a part of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Memcache user token index and PKI tokens

2013-07-16 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Kieran Spear kisp...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/07/2013, at 1:10 AM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/15/2013 04:06 AM, Kieran Spear wrote: Hi all, I want to backport the fix for the Token List in Memcache can consume an entire memcache page bug[1] to

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-16 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Could you explain a bit more what could be done to fix it in an easy way, even if it's not efficient? I understand that ALTER doesn't work well.

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/16/2013 03:55 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Could you explain a bit more what could be done to fix it in an easy way, even if it's not efficient? I understand that ALTER doesn't work well. Though would we have the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Seperate out 'soft-deleted' instances from 'deleted' ones?

2013-07-16 Thread Dan Smith
I'd like to see if there are any opinions on if this should come back as 'SOFT_DELETED' or if everyone is OK with mapping soft-delete to 'DELETED' in the v3 API? I would like to see them merged. Having multiple kinds of deleted records is really confusing, and leads to bugs. The more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:41:55AM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: (This email is with regards to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36316/) Hello All, I have been implementing the Guru Meditation Report blueprint

[openstack-dev] [DB][Migrations] Switching to using of Alembic

2013-07-16 Thread Roman Podolyaka
Hello, stackers! Most of you who is interested in work around DB in OpenStack must have read this thread [1] started by Boris Pavlovic. Boris made an overview of the work our team is doing to make DB code better. One of our main goals is to switch from sqlalchemy-migrate to Alembic for applying

Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
Great, I think I had the Mako syntax mixed up with a different templating language that depended on having a DOM to work on. Can someone put together a more concrete analysis than this is working so we can compare the tools? :-) Doug On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [DB][Migrations] Switching to using of Alembic

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Roman Podolyaka rpodoly...@mirantis.comwrote: Hello, stackers! Most of you who is interested in work around DB in OpenStack must have read this thread [1] started by Boris Pavlovic. Boris made an overview of the work our team is doing to make DB code better.

Re: [openstack-dev] [DB][Migrations] Switching to using of Alembic

2013-07-16 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Roman Podolyaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello, stackers! Most of you who is interested in work around DB in OpenStack must have read this thread [1] started by

Re: [openstack-dev] lambda() Errors in Quantum/Neutron Grizzly (2013.1.2)

2013-07-16 Thread Craig E. Ward
Edgar, Below are the versions of the quantum/neutron packages and of RabbitMQ. I've attached a text file with the debug lines from each agent reporting on their configuration parameters. The Quantum/Neutron packages came from

[openstack-dev] Neutron -- creating networks with no assigned tenant

2013-07-16 Thread Jay Pipes
The way that folsom and nova + nova-network works is that you create a bunch of unassigned (no tenant assigned to the networks) networks and when a tenant first launches an instance, nova grabs an available network for the tenant and assigns it to the tenant. Then each instance the tenant

Re: [openstack-dev] lambda() Errors in Quantum/Neutron Grizzly (2013.1.2)

2013-07-16 Thread Craig E. Ward
Ajiva, The database is MySQL, 5.1.69. The RPC service is RabbitMQ version 2.6.1. Is there another database in play that I am not aware of? I attached a file with the configuration data each agent in seeing in my response to Edgar M. That may have more relevant data. Thanks, Craig On

Re: [openstack-dev] Chalenges with highly available service VMs

2013-07-16 Thread Ian Wells
On 10 July 2013 21:14, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: It used to be essential back when we had nova-network and all tenants ended up on one network. It became less useful when tenants could create their own networks and could use them as they saw fit. It's still got its uses

[openstack-dev] Program Proposal: Trove

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Basnight
Official Title: OpenStack Database as a Service Initial PTL: Michael Basnight mbasni...@gmail.com Mission Statement: To provide scalable and reliable Cloud Database as a Service functionality for both relational and non-relational database engines, and to continue to improve its fully-featured

Re: [openstack-dev] olso-config dev requirement

2013-07-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/16/2013 11:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com mailto:mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:28 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Seperate out 'soft-deleted' instances from 'deleted' ones?

2013-07-16 Thread Day, Phil
-Original Message- From: David Ripton [mailto:drip...@redhat.com] Sent: 16 July 2013 15:39 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Seperate out 'soft-deleted' instances from 'deleted' ones? On 07/15/2013 10:03 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Sandy Walsh
There's a ton of reviews/comparisons out there, only a google away. From: Doug Hellmann [doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:45 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja

Re: [openstack-dev] [DB][Migrations] Switching to using of Alembic

2013-07-16 Thread Boris Pavlovic
To ALL, About Alembic and sqlite Alters, There is easy way to provide Alter in Alembic from sqlite (there are functions they should be just implemented) As I know author is agree if somebody help with this. About switching to Alembic: We are not able to use automatically merging

Re: [openstack-dev] [DB][Migrations] Switching to using of Alembic

2013-07-16 Thread David Ripton
On 07/16/2013 01:58 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: There is no magic and we have only 2 ways to end up with this problems and bugs that could be caused by manually migrations merging and tons of bugs in sqlalchemy-migrate. 1) step by step (openstack method) There are special tests

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron -- creating networks with no assigned tenant

2013-07-16 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/16/2013 02:03 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: Hi Jay It is not supported now, and there is no bp proposed to do that. It can be done via API (CLI), so we can write a script for tenant setup. Hi Nachi, IMO, this is a step backwards and a deficiency. Basically, the user interface was needlessly

Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
Well, yeah. I have my opinion, too, since I've used a few of these in the past. But I was trying to encourage a bit of discussion, rather than just settling on whatever template library made it through the review process in openstack/requirements first. :-) For example, I'm less concerned with

Re: [openstack-dev] [DB][Migrations] Switching to using of Alembic

2013-07-16 Thread Boris Pavlovic
David, 1. Dan Prince thing is equal useful and can help in both cases 2. We are not able to block all openstack for an half year to implement your plan 3. We are able only to convert only grizzly migrations not havana (because our customers should be able to switch from grizzly to havana) 4.

Re: [openstack-dev] [DB][Migrations] Switching to using of Alembic

2013-07-16 Thread Boris Pavlovic
David, Btw it is my code ;), and in the same way we will implement alters in Alembic. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, David Ripton drip...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/16/2013 12:09 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Roman Podolyaka

Re: [openstack-dev] olso-config dev requirement

2013-07-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:37 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: On 07/16/2013 11:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com mailto:mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:28 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Mon, Jul

Re: [openstack-dev] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Matt Dietz
I'll second the jinja2 recommendation. I also use it with Pyramid, and find it non-obtrusive to write and easy to understand. -Original Message- From: Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, July

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: DevStack

2013-07-16 Thread Joshua Harlow
Anvil seems to fit in said program. It's role is similar, helps build openstack as packages (rpms) for deployers/developers or for quick testing. Provides similar functionality as devstack http://anvil.readthedocs.org/ Both are actively supported and both are tools for developers and

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-16 Thread Joe Gordon
I am happy to help to but I don't have much extra bandwidth at the moment, so I can only play a supporting role as a core and not a leadership role. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I'm happy to help, although I'm pretty busy... Michael On Fri, Jul

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-16 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Monty thanks a lot! By the way there are 2 more guys that have a lot of experience with sqlalchemy-migrate: 1) Roman (rpodolyaka) 2) Viktor (vsergeyev) Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: I am happy to help to but I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron -- creating networks with no assigned tenant

2013-07-16 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Jay I agree for that usecase is needed. # But some users wan't to setup their own networks, so this case usecase will be also exists. This function needes keystone notification bp (and it looks targeted for H3). https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/notifications I'm not sure this

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSLO] Comments/Questions on Messaging Wiki

2013-07-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi William, I think Doug has done a good job of answering all these, but here's another set of answers to make sure there's no confusion :) On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 17:40 -0400, William Henry wrote: Hi all, I've been reading through the Messaging Wiki and have some comments. The docs

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: Trove

2013-07-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 10:37 -0700, Michael Basnight wrote: Official Title: OpenStack Database as a Service Initial PTL: Michael Basnight mbasni...@gmail.com Mission Statement: To provide scalable and reliable Cloud Database as a Service functionality for both relational and

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] mid-cycle sprint?

2013-07-16 Thread Chris K
I'll cast my vote for the Aug dates as they are better for me. chris On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Byrum, Clint clint.by...@hp.com wrote: So my original thinking was lets get together before H3 and push on things that need to get done for H3. If, however, people would rather we get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday July 16th at 19:00 UTC

2013-07-16 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph l...@princessleia.com wrote: The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday July 16th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting logs and minutes: Minutes:

Re: [openstack-dev] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi folks Jinja2 looks have +3. This is the winner? # My code can be done by Jinja2 also. so if we choose Jinja2, what's version range is needed? Thanks Nachi 2013/7/16 Matt Dietz matt.di...@rackspace.com: I'll second the jinja2 recommendation. I also use it with Pyramid, and find it

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSLO] Comments/Questions on Messaging Wiki

2013-07-16 Thread William Henry
- Original Message - - Original Message - Hi William, I think Doug has done a good job of answering all these, but here's another set of answers to make sure there's no confusion :) On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 17:40 -0400, William Henry wrote: Hi all, I've

Re: [openstack-dev] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Basnight
Also, jinja2 is in requirements. We have no specific requirements on a particular version so feel free to pin it to a specific. We (trove) use it to generate config templates. https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/96f38365ce94d2135f7744c93bae0ce92a747195 On Jul 16, 2013, at 1:10 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Folks Thanks I'll update code with Jinja2 2013/7/16 Michael Basnight mbasni...@gmail.com: Also, jinja2 is in requirements. We have no specific requirements on a particular version so feel free to pin it to a specific. We (trove) use it to generate config templates.

Re: [openstack-dev] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
Thanks, Nachi. Doug On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com wrote: Hi Folks Thanks I'll update code with Jinja2 2013/7/16 Michael Basnight mbasni...@gmail.com: Also, jinja2 is in requirements. We have no specific requirements on a particular version so feel free to

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron -- creating networks with no assigned tenant

2013-07-16 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Jay IMO, you are mixing 'What' and How. This is my understandings. What is needed (Requirement) [Requirement1] Network and Subnet will be assigned for new tenant automatically by the configuration How to do it (Implementation) - [nova-network] PreCreate list of networks which

Re: [openstack-dev] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Michael No I don't going to break your trove heart. # Just kidding :) Requirement.txt has Jinja2, so I will not propose changes for this. Best Nachi 2013/7/16 Michael Basnight mbasni...@gmail.com: Nachi, If/when you do pin it down to a particular version in openstack/requirements, plz

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron -- creating networks with no assigned tenant

2013-07-16 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/16/2013 05:14 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: Hi Jay IMO, you are mixing 'What' and How. This is my understandings. What is needed (Requirement) [Requirement1] Network and Subnet will be assigned for new tenant automatically by the configuration How to do it (Implementation) -

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: Trove

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Basnight
On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Haomai Wang wrote: 在 2013-7-17,上午4:42,Michael Basnight mbasni...@gmail.com 写道: On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 10:37 -0700, Michael Basnight wrote: Official Title: OpenStack Database as a Service Initial

Re: [openstack-dev] ipdb debugging in Neutron test cases?

2013-07-16 Thread Roman Podolyaka
Hi, Ensure that stdout isn't captured by the corresponding fixture: OS_STDOUT_CAPTURE=0 python -m testtools.run neutron.tests.unit.openvswitch.test_ovs_neutron_agent.TestOvsNeutronAgent.test_port_update Tests running...

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Memcache user token index and PKI tokens

2013-07-16 Thread Kieran Spear
On 17/07/2013, at 12:26 AM, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Kieran Spear kisp...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/07/2013, at 1:10 AM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/15/2013 04:06 AM, Kieran Spear wrote: Hi all, I want to backport the fix for

Re: [openstack-dev] ipdb debugging in Neutron test cases?

2013-07-16 Thread Qiu Yu
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Roman Podolyaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, Ensure that stdout isn't captured by the corresponding fixture: OS_STDOUT_CAPTURE=0 python -m testtools.run neutron.tests.unit.openvswitch.test_ovs_neutron_agent.TestOvsNeutronAgent.test_port_update Tests