Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On Oct 16, 2013, at 05:48 , Dan Smith d...@danplanet.commailto:d...@danplanet.com wrote: The last thing that OpenStack needs ANY more help with is velocity. I mean, let's be serious - we land WAY more patches in a day than is even close to sane. Thanks for saying this -- it doesn't get said

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

2013-10-16 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, I agree with Phil. This has been on the agenda of the scheduling meetings for over a month now. Thanks Gary On 10/15/13 2:40 PM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Hi Alex, My understanding is that the 17th is the deadline and that Russell needs to be planning the sessions from that point

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On Oct 16, 2013, at 08:45 , Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sean, I'm going to top post because my response is general. I totally agree that we need people that understand the code base and we should encourage new people to be cross-functional. I guess my main issue

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread Łukasz Jernaś
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Mathew R Odden mrod...@us.ibm.com wrote: As requested in the last Oslo meeting, I created a blueprint for further discussion on the i18n work in Icehouse here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/i18n-messages There were some ideas from the meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Reviews: tweaking priorities, and continual-deployment approvals

2013-10-16 Thread mar...@redhat.com
On 16/10/13 03:22, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, during the TripleO meeting today we had two distinct discussions about reviews. Firstly, our stats have been slipping: http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 (ignoring

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] Havana RC3 available

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, Two critical issues were discovered in Cinder RC2 testing, including one that affected the ability to upgrade from a Grizzly setup. We fixed those issues and published a new Havana release candidate for OpenStack Block Storage (Cinder). You can find the RC3 tarball and the links to

Re: [openstack-dev] How to get VXLAN Endpoint IP without agent

2013-10-16 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi, can you clarify your question? because without any l2-agent on your compute host, your VM won't be able to communicate. regards On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM, B Veera-B37207 b37...@freescale.com wrote: Hi, Vxlan endpoint ip is configured in

[openstack-dev] [Keystone] Havana RC3 available

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, One issue was discovered in Keystone RC2 testing, preventing Heat's usage of trusts from being usable. We decided to fix this specific issue pre-release and published a new Havana release candidate for OpenStack Identity (Keystone). You can find the RC3 tarball and a link to the

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 October 2013 20:14, Alessandro Pilotti apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com wrote: Drivers are IMO not part of the core of Nova, but completely separated and decoupled entities, which IMO should be treated that way. As a consequence, we frankly don't stricly feel as part of Nova, although

[openstack-dev] Introducing Show my network state utility

2013-10-16 Thread Giuliano
Hi all! I already posted this message in the general mailing list, but I write it here too. I've made a simple network utility and I'd like to share it with the community! It's called Show my network state and it's a graphical network topology visualizer for a single host. I made it to simplify

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 09:21:12PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 10/15/2013 06:51 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Notifications from non-local exchanges

2013-10-16 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Oct 15 2013, Sandy Walsh wrote: Hmm, I think I see your point. All the rabbit endpoints are determined by these switches: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/nova.conf.sample#L1532-L1592 We will need a way in CM to pull from multiple rabbits. This is a know

Re: [openstack-dev] How does the libvirt domain XML get created?

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:07:38PM -0500, Clark Laughlin wrote: I can see in config.py where VNC gets added (the graphics element), but I can't find any place where a video element gets added. In fact, I've grepped the entire nova tree for cirrus or video and can only find it here: It is

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:19 , Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.netmailto:robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 16 October 2013 20:14, Alessandro Pilotti apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.commailto:apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com wrote: Drivers are IMO not part of the core of Nova, but completely

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: The Linux kernel process works for a couple of reasons... 1) the subsystem maintainers have known each other for a solid decade (i.e. 3x the lifespan of the OpenStack project), over a history of 10 years, of people doing the right things, you build trust in their judgment.

[openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] A new blueprint for Nova-scheduler: Policy-based Scheduler

2013-10-16 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
Dear all, I've registered a new blueprint for nova-scheduler. The purpose of the blueprint is to propose a new scheduler that is based on policy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-based-scheduler With current Filter_Scheduler, admin cannot change his placement policy

[openstack-dev] [glance] 'ordereddict' requirement

2013-10-16 Thread stuart . mclaren
All, There was a plan to use pypi's 'ordereddict' in Icehouse, to replace how we're currently providing that functionality. However, there are no ordereddict packages for Debian/Ubuntu and there are no plans to provide them. (See Thomas Goirand's comment here:

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On Oct 16, 2013, at 13:19 , Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgmailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Sean Dague wrote: The Linux kernel process works for a couple of reasons... 1) the subsystem maintainers have known each other for a solid decade (i.e. 3x the lifespan of the OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
Alessandro, please fix your email program so that it does not send HTML email to the list, and correctly quotes text you are replying to with ' '. Your reply comes out looking like this which makes it impossible to see who wrote what: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:42:45AM +, Alessandro Pilotti

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Alessandro Pilotti wrote: On Oct 16, 2013, at 13:19 , Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org The other two alternatives are to accept the delays and work within Nova (slowly building the trust that will give you more autonomy), or ship it as a separate add-on that does not come with nova-core's

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Alessandro, please fix your email program so that it does not send HTML email to the list, and correctly quotes text you are replying to with ' '. +1 :) Reference: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette -- Thierry Carrez (ttx)

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
Sorry guys about this, my OS X Mail client had no issues in doing the proper indentation, so I never noticed it. Darn. I made a test with Daniel with a private email before spamming here for nothing. Hope it worked out here as well. Thanks for the heads up. On Oct 16, 2013, at 13:47 , Daniel

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] A new blueprint for Nova-scheduler: Policy-based Scheduler

2013-10-16 Thread Alex Glikson
This sounds very similar to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multiple-scheduler-drivers We worked on it in Havana, learned a lot from feedbacks during the review cycle, and hopefully will finalize the details at the summit and will be able to continue finish the implementation in

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.netwrote: On 16 October 2013 20:14, Alessandro Pilotti apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com wrote: Drivers are IMO not part of the core of Nova, but completely separated and decoupled entities, which IMO should be treated

[openstack-dev] [Heat]Blueprint for retry function with idenpotency in Heat

2013-10-16 Thread Mitsuru Kanabuchi
Hi all, We proposed a blueprint that supports API retry function with idenpotency for Heat. Prease review the blueprint. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/support-retry-with-idempotency Any comments will be gratefully appreciated. Regards. Mitsuru

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Sean Dague wrote: The Linux kernel process works for a couple of reasons... 1) the subsystem maintainers have known each other for a solid decade (i.e. 3x the lifespan of the OpenStack project), over a history of

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/16/2013 01:19 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: snip Sean, you got called out in the meeting not because you asked to put a refernce link to the specs which was perfectly reasonable, but because after we did what you asked for in a timely manner, you didn't bother to review the patch again

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/10/13 06:56, Mike Spreitzer wrote: What is the difference between what today's heat engine does and a workflow? I am interested to hear what you experts think, I hope it will be clarifying. I presume the answers will touch on things like error handling, state tracking, and updates.

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] 'ordereddict' requirement

2013-10-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/16/2013 07:40 AM, stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: All, There was a plan to use pypi's 'ordereddict' in Icehouse, to replace how we're currently providing that functionality. However, there are no ordereddict packages for Debian/Ubuntu and there are no plans to provide them. (See

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/16/2013 01:45 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Hi Sean, I'm going to top post because my response is general. I totally agree that we need people that understand the code base and we should encourage new people to be cross-functional. I guess my main issue is with how we get there. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What validation feature is necessary for Nova v3 API

2013-10-16 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jpwrote: Hi, # I resend this because gmail distinguished my previous mail as spam one.. I'd like to know what validation feature is really needed for Nova v3 API, and I hope this mail will be a kick-off of

[openstack-dev] Consolidation for Manager and Resource classes

2013-10-16 Thread Endre Karlson
Has anyone looked into doing a effort in consolidating the different implementations of these classes ? Doing a short walk-through I see: Manager * Has a typical kind of API (server, lb, network, subnet) which it interacts with and returns instances of a result as a Resource Resource *

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On Oct 16, 2013, at 15:16 , Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 10/16/2013 01:19 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: snip Sean, you got called out in the meeting not because you asked to put a refernce link to the specs which was perfectly reasonable, but because after we did what you asked

[openstack-dev] Python-coverage: path change from /usr/bin/coverage to /usr/bin/python-coverage

2013-10-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi there, It appears that in Debian, python-coverage provides the wrapper in /usr/bin/python-coverage. I tried to push the current maintainer to provide /usr/bin/coverage, but he doesn't agree. He believes that coverage is just too generic to be squatted by the python-coverage package. Robert

Re: [openstack-dev] Python-coverage: path change from /usr/bin/coverage to /usr/bin/python-coverage

2013-10-16 Thread Alex Gaynor
It seems to me the much easier solution is to just always install coverage.py into a virtualenv, then we don't have to worry at all about operating-system politics. Alex On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Hi there, It appears that in Debian,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/10/13 00:48, Steve Baker wrote: I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some feedback: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/hot-software-config

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:59:26PM +, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: When somebody (especially a core reviewer) puts a -1 and a new patch is committed to address it, I noticed that other reviewers wait for the guy that put the -1 to say something before +1/+2 it. I think that depends on

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [ml2] Canceling today's ML2 meeting

2013-10-16 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
Folks: A few of the key people cannot make today's ML2 meeting, so I'm going to cancel it today. If you haven't filed your design summit sessions on ML2, please do so by tomorrow! We have a list of them on the ML2 meeting page here [1] which we collected over the past two weeks. Also, Sukhdev

Re: [openstack-dev] Consolidation for Manager and Resource classes

2013-10-16 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
+1 to consolidate. They are all doing the same thing, so why not put them into a common place? *almost* the same thing, there's some small differences, one e.g is that Ironic use PATH for the update instead of PUT. Cheers, Lucas ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [ml2] Canceling today's ML2 meeting

2013-10-16 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
Whoops, hit send too quickly. The Url for [2] is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51992/ On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: Folks: A few of the key people cannot make today's ML2 meeting, so I'm going to cancel it today. If you haven't filed

Re: [openstack-dev] Consolidation for Manager and Resource classes

2013-10-16 Thread Endre Karlson
I can see though that there is a apiclient thing in oslo-incubator, would it be an idea to name this oslo.client instead of having to copy this in like other oslo stuff? Endre 2013/10/16 Lucas Alvares Gomes lucasago...@gmail.com +1 to consolidate. They are all doing the same thing, so why

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote on 10/16/2013 04:11:40 AM: ... IMO we should be abstracting the software configuration complexity behind a Heat resource interface, not pushing it up to a pre-processor (which implies some horribly complex interfaces at the heat template level) I am not

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Dan Smith
+1 - I think we really want to have a strong preference for a stable api if we start separating parts out So, as someone who is about to break the driver API all to hell over the next six months (er, I mean, make some significant changes), I can tell you that making it stable is the best way

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/16/2013 08:25:38 AM: To answer your question, the key thing that Heat does is take in two declarative models and generate a workflow to transform one into the other. (The general case of this is a stack update, where the two models are defined in

Re: [openstack-dev] Python-coverage: path change from /usr/bin/coverage to /usr/bin/python-coverage

2013-10-16 Thread Robert Collins
I also suggested using 'python -m coverage' which should work everywhere without issue :) -Rob On 17 October 2013 02:05, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Hi there, It appears that in Debian, python-coverage provides the wrapper in /usr/bin/python-coverage. I tried to push the current

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] automatically evacuate instances on compute failure

2013-10-16 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Tim, Regarding this discussion, now there is at least a plan in Heat to allow management of VMs not launched by that service: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/adopt-stack So hopefully in future HARestarter will allow to support medium availability for all types of instances. -- Best

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Hi Steve, thanks a lot taking the effort to write all this down. I had a look at both wiki pages and have some comments below. This is really from the top of my head, and I guess I have to spend some more time thinking about it, but I wanted to provide some feedback anyway. On components vs.

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: +1 - I think we really want to have a strong preference for a stable api if we start separating parts out So, as someone who is about to break the driver API all to hell over the next six months (er, I mean, make some

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 06:51:50AM -0700, Dan Smith wrote: +1 - I think we really want to have a strong preference for a stable api if we start separating parts out So, as someone who is about to break the driver API all to hell over the next six months (er, I mean, make some significant

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/10/13 15:58, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/16/2013 08:25:38 AM: To answer your question, the key thing that Heat does is take in two declarative models and generate a workflow to transform one into the other. (The general case of this is a stack

[openstack-dev] Issue with MutliNode openstack installation with devstack

2013-10-16 Thread Vikash Kumar
Hi, I am trying to install openstack on mutli node with help of devstack ( http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html). I got some issues: My setup details: One controller and One compute node (both VM). OS - Ubuntu 13.04

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] QoS API Extension update

2013-10-16 Thread Sean M. Collins
Hello, Just a quick update on the QoS API Extension - I plan on attending the summit in Hong Kong and have registered a summit proposal to discuss the current work that has been done. Currently I have two reviews under way: API Extension Database models:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/16/2013 10:30:44 AM: On 16/10/13 15:58, Mike Spreitzer wrote: ... Thanks for a great short sharp answer. In that light, I see a concern. Once a workflow has been generated, the system has lost the ability to adapt to changes in either model.

[openstack-dev] [nova] [devstack] Re: Issue with MutliNode openstack installation with devstack

2013-10-16 Thread Vikash Kumar
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Vikash Kumar vikash.ku...@oneconvergence.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to install openstack on mutli node with help of devstack ( http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html). I got some issues: My setup details: One controller and One compute

Re: [openstack-dev] How does the libvirt domain XML get created?

2013-10-16 Thread Clark Laughlin
Ok - thank you, that helps. - Clark On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:07:38PM -0500, Clark Laughlin wrote: I can see in config.py where VNC gets added (the graphics element), but I can't find any place where a video

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] QoS API Extension update

2013-10-16 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Hi Sean Just an FYI, we are also planning a QoS API Extension Blueprint for the Icehouse Design Summit. Will hopefully submit that really soon. Perhaps we can look at combining both of them and discuss this in Hong Kong as I have looked over your BP and I can see some benefit in combining them

[openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread John S Warren
With regard to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/i18n-messages I think it would be helpful to define the high-level design alternatives, before delving into technical details such as magic. To that end, here are the alternatives as I see them: 1. Attempt as much as possible to isolate

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread David Ripton
On 10/16/2013 08:59 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: When somebody (especially a core reviewer) puts a -1 and a new patch is committed to address it, I noticed that other reviewers wait for the guy that put the -1 to say something before +1/+2 it. My feeling on this is that if somebody reviews

[openstack-dev] [Keystone] Havana RC4 available !

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
What fun would it be without late RCs... We discovered that Keystone RC3 was still using lazy translations mode, which could trigger errors in specific locales. Since all the other projects in 2013.2 disabled this mode, we decided to fix this pre-release and published a new Havana release

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] QoS API Extension update

2013-10-16 Thread Sean M. Collins
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 03:45:29PM +, Alan Kavanagh wrote: Will hopefully submit that really soon. Perhaps we can look at combining both of them and discuss this in Hong Kong as I have looked over your BP and I can see some benefit in combining them both. Hi Alan, That sounds great -

[openstack-dev] [keystone] design summit session proposal deadline

2013-10-16 Thread Dolph Mathews
I'll be finalizing the design summit schedule [1] for keystone following the weekly meeting [2] on Tuesday, October 22nd 18:00 UTC. Please have your proposals submitted before then. So far I think everyone has done a GREAT job self-organizing the proposed sessions to avoid overlap, but we

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Tuskar UI - Resource Class Creation Wireframes - updated

2013-10-16 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hey folks, I am sending an updated version of wireframes for Resource Class Creation. Thanks everybody for your feedback, I tried to cover most of your concerns and I am sending updated version for your reviews. If you have any concerns, I am happy to discuss it with you.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Tuskar UI - Resource Class Creation Wireframes - updated

2013-10-16 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/16/2013 12:31 PM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: Hey folks, I am sending an updated version of wireframes for Resource Class Creation. Thanks everybody for your feedback, I tried to cover most of your concerns and I am sending updated version for your reviews. If you have any concerns, I am happy

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What validation feature is necessary for Nova v3 API

2013-10-16 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
Hi Chris, Thank you for your response. 2013/10/16 Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote: Hi, # I resend this because gmail distinguished my previous mail as spam one.. I'd like to know what validation

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] QoS API Extension update

2013-10-16 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Cheers Sean I will take a look at the wiki and update accordingly. I took a look at your BP, its right along the lines of what I feel is also needed and what we are planning to submit (being finalised as I write this email) though we are also adding some additional QoS attributes to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread John S Warren
Just to clarify, the reason I believe it is important to lay out high-level design alternatives and their implications is because it will help in making decisions about how the Message class is to be changed. In other words, the requirements for a class's behavior might be drastically different,

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] design summit session proposal deadline

2013-10-16 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be finalizing the design summit schedule [1] for keystone following the weekly meeting [2] on Tuesday, October 22nd 18:00 UTC. Please have your proposals submitted before then. So far I think everyone has done

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] design summit session proposal deadline

2013-10-16 Thread Adam Young
On 10/16/2013 12:23 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: I'll be finalizing the design summit schedule [1] for keystone following the weekly meeting [2] on Tuesday, October 22nd 18:00 UTC. Please have your proposals submitted before then. So far I think everyone has done a GREAT job self-organizing the

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] design summit session proposal deadline

2013-10-16 Thread Tim Bell
A partial slot to discuss how to achieve the vision in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/DomainQuotaManagementAndEnforcement would be useful. The goal is to avoid duplicate effort which could be focused on a single theme. With the various collaborations between HP, CERN and BARC along with

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread Mathew R Odden
Łukasz Jernaś deej...@srem.org wrote on 10/16/2013 02:26:28 AM: I'm still trying to wrap my head around the need for translating API messages and log messages as IMHO it adds a lot more problems for app developers and log analysis tools, eg. a log analysis tool would be usable only for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2013-10-16 12:24, John S Warren wrote: Just to clarify, the reason I believe it is important to lay out high-level design alternatives and their implications is because it will help in making decisions about how the Message class is to be changed. In other words, the requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What validation feature is necessary for Nova v3 API

2013-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi ken1ohmi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Chris, Thank you for your response. 2013/10/16 Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote: Hi, # I resend this because gmail

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Mathew R Odden mrod...@us.ibm.com wrote: Łukasz Jernaś deej...@srem.org wrote on 10/16/2013 02:26:28 AM: I'm still trying to wrap my head around the need for translating API messages and log messages as IMHO it adds a lot more problems for app developers

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/16/2013 06:59 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Alessandro Pilotti wrote: On Oct 16, 2013, at 13:19 , Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org The other two alternatives are to accept the delays and work within Nova (slowly building the trust that will give you more autonomy), or ship it as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-10-16 06:16:33 -0700: On 16/10/13 00:48, Steve Baker wrote: I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some feedback:

[openstack-dev] nova boot issue

2013-10-16 Thread Ravikanth Samprathi
Hi Foks I have setup baremetal nova and followed the instructions from the baremetal wiki. Everything went fine till the last step ''nova boot ''. This command ''nova boot'' is supposed to trigger the deployment process as normal for nova. For the pxe baremetal driver that means

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Havana RC3 available !

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Might be the last this time, if Horizon doesn't respin. We discovered two issues in Neutron RC2, including one recent regression with a security impact. We decided to fix these two pre-release and published a new Havana release candidate for OpenStack Networking (Neutron). You can find the RC3

Re: [openstack-dev] How to get VXLAN Endpoint IP without agent

2013-10-16 Thread Ravi Chunduru
I guess the intention is to make VXLAN work with out quantum agent. It means you are using an external openflow controller to manage OVS switches. In such a case, there is a need to specifically get the compute node IP from the VM data interface network( and not the management or openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:55 AM, John S Warren jswar...@us.ibm.com wrote: With regard to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/i18n-messages I think it would be helpful to define the high-level design alternatives, before delving into technical details such as magic. To that end,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread John S Warren
Ben Nemec wrote: Have you seen the discussion from the last Oslo meeting? http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2013/oslo.2013-10-11-14.00.log.txt Unfortunately, I missed that meeting. I don't want to dwell on this too much, but I would like add some thoughts that may not have been

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread John S Warren
Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote on 10/16/2013 03:11:12 PM: This doesn't quite match my understanding. IIUC, approach 1 was taken during havana and the resulting class did not behave enough like a string to work everywhere (specifically, with logging for locales that did

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Lakshminaraya Renganarayana
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 10/16/2013 03:02:13 PM: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-10-16 06:16:33 -0700: For me the crucial question is, how do we define the interface for synchronising and passing data from and to arbitrary applications running under an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] FWaaS IceHouse summit prep and IRC meeting

2013-10-16 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Hi All, We had the FWaaS IRC meeting today, please check the logs if you could not attend: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2013/networking_fwaas.2013-10-16-18.01.log.html We will have the next one same day/time (Wednesday 18:00 UTC/11 AM PDT) next week, hope you can

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread John S Warren
John S Warren/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 10/16/2013 03:38:05 PM: From: John S Warren/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 10/16/2013 03:42 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements Doug Hellmann

[openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-16 Thread Irena Berezovsky
Hi, As one of the next steps for PCI pass-through I would like to discuss is the support for PCI pass-through vNIC. While nova takes care of PCI pass-through device resources management and VIF settings, neutron should manage their networking configuration. I would like to register a summit

Re: [openstack-dev] Voting in the Technical Committee election in now open

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: TC elections are underway and will remain open for you to cast your vote until at least 23:59 UTC on Thursday, October 17. Reminder: voting closes in less than 27 hours. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Steve Baker
On 10/17/2013 02:16 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 16/10/13 00:48, Steve Baker wrote: I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some feedback: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/hot-software-config

Re: [openstack-dev] Python-coverage: path change from /usr/bin/coverage to /usr/bin/python-coverage

2013-10-16 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 10/16/2013 02:05 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi there, It appears that in Debian, python-coverage provides the wrapper in /usr/bin/python-coverage. I tried to push the current maintainer to provide /usr/bin/coverage, but he doesn't agree. He believes that coverage is just too generic to be

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Havana RC3 available !!

2013-10-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ad... last but not least, the Horizon respin! We discovered a critical bug in Horizon RC2, preventing operation of booted-from-volume instances. We decided to fix this issue pre-release and published a new Havana release candidate for OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon). You can find the RC3

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Steve Baker
On 10/17/2013 03:11 AM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Hi Steve, thanks a lot taking the effort to write all this down. I had a look at both wiki pages and have some comments below. This is really from the top of my head, and I guess I have to spend some more time thinking about it, but I wanted to

[openstack-dev] Announce of Rally - benchmarking system for OpenStack

2013-10-16 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hi Stackers, We are thrilled to present to you Rally, the benchmarking system for OpenStack. It is not a secret that we have performance scaling issues and that OpenStack won’t scale out of box. It is also well known that if you get your super big DC (5k-15k servers) you are able to find fix

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Tenant's info from plugin/services

2013-10-16 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Hello Everyone, I was wondering if there's a standard way within Neutron to retrieve tenants' specific information (e.g. name) from a plugin/service. The call context already provides the tenant's UUID, but that may be useful to have some extra info in certain cases. Thanks, Ivar.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Tenant's info from plugin/services

2013-10-16 Thread Yongsheng Gong
I think this should be done in keystone. maybe you need a CLI command: keystone tenant-get On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Ivar Lazzaro i...@embrane.com wrote: Hello Everyone, ** ** I was wondering if there’s a “standard” way within Neutron to retrieve tenants’ specific information

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Wilson
I need to understand better what holistic scheduling means, but I agree with you that this is not exactly what Boris has raised as an issue. I don't have a rock solid design for what I want to do, but at least the objectives I want to achieve are that spinning up more schedulers increases your

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Tenant's info from plugin/services

2013-10-16 Thread Ravi Chunduru
As Yongsheng said, use keystone tenant-list. We overload keystone tenant with lot more tenant specific information as metadata and use it in other openstack services. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Yongsheng Gong gong...@unitedstack.comwrote: I think this should be done in keystone. maybe

[openstack-dev] [State-Management] Agenda for tomorrow meeting at 2000 UTC

2013-10-16 Thread Joshua Harlow
Hi all, The [state-management] project team holds a weekly meeting in #openstack-meeting on thursdays, 2000 UTC. The next meeting is tomorrow, 2013-10-17!!! As usual, everyone is welcome :-) Link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StateManagement Taskflow:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] QoS API Extension update

2013-10-16 Thread Itsuro ODA
Hi, I'd like to support linuxbridge QoS. I submmited the following BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-qos-linuxbridge I won't attend the summit but Toshihiro, my co-worker will attend the summit and attend the QoS session. Thanks. Itsuro Oda On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:21:36

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote on 10/16/2013 07:13:17 PM: I need to understand better what holistic scheduling means, ... By holistic I simply mean making a joint decision all at once about a bunch of related resources of a variety of types. For example, making a joint decision about

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] design summit session proposal deadline

2013-10-16 Thread Morgan Fainberg
I agree that likely extensions and internal API discussions can become one session. I think the API side of that won't need to fill a whole session. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013, Adam Young wrote: On 10/16/2013 12:23 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: I'll be finalizing the design summit schedule [1]