Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-19 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Tracy, I've created etherpad with the summary: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/w5BwMtCG6z -- Best regards, Oleg Gelbukh On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Tracy Jones tjo...@vmware.com wrote: Oleg - this is great! I tried to find you on IRC to recommend we put this on a etherpad so several

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Subteam meeting on Thursday, 21

2013-11-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, Let's meet on #openstack-meeting on Thrsday, 21, at 14-00 UTC We'll discuss current progress and design of some of proposed features. Thanks, Eugene. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 07:10:53PM -0500, Krishna Raman wrote: We should probably meet on IRC or conf. call and discuss the suggested architecture, open questions and REST API. I have set up a doodle poll at http://doodle.com/w7y5qcdvq9i36757 to gather a times when we can meet. Please

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-19 Thread Kanthi P
Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: My view of the outcome of the session was not it *will* be a new service. Instead, it was, we *think* it should be a new service, but let's do some more investigation to decide for sure. The action item from the session was to go off and come up with a proposal for

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:57:51AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: My view of the outcome of the session was not it *will* be a new service. Instead, it was, we *think* it should be a new service, but let's do some more investigation to decide for sure. The action

[openstack-dev] [nova][heat][[keystone] RFC: introducing request identification

2013-11-19 Thread haruka tanizawa
Hi stackers!! I'd like to ask for your opinions about my idea of identifying request. Challenges == We have no way to know the final result of an API request. Indeed we can continuously get the status of allocated resources, but this is just resource status, not request status. It

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] bug day - Nov 19

2013-11-19 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Reminder: today is the bug triage day on Savanna project. I’ve prepared the wiki page for it - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/BugTriage (based on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage). See you in #savanna channel. Thank you. Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-19 Thread Ivan Melnikov
On 19.11.2013 10:38, Kekane, Abhishek wrote: Hi All, Greetings!!! Hi there! And thanks for your interest in cinder and taskflow! We are in process of implementing the TaskFlow 0.1 in Cinder for copy volume to image and delete volume. I have added two blueprints for the same. 1.

[openstack-dev] Exposing service versions through APIs (was: [heat] Build Info Blueprint)

2013-11-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 18/11/13 23:45, Anderson Mesquita wrote: Hello fellows, As suggested on our meeting last Wednesday (2013-11-13) http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-11-13-20.00.log.html#l-149, we're trying to get the build_info discussion going. The idea is that Heat should provide

[openstack-dev] [nova] V3 API blueprints

2013-11-19 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi, Some people have expressed interest in helping out with the V3 API related work during Icehouse. The following are the relevant blueprints based on ongoing work from Havana and discussions during the summit sessions: Ongoing blueprints https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-v3-api

[openstack-dev] [Nova] V3 API Review Checklist and style guide

2013-11-19 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi, I've updated the Nova review check list with some details for reviewing V3 API changesets and started a bit of a style guide for the API. Checklist: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=ReviewChecklist#Nova_Review_Checklist Style Guide:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Isaku Yamahata
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 03:55:49PM -0500, Robert Kukura rkuk...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/18/2013 03:25 PM, Edgar Magana wrote: Developers, This topic has been discussed before but I do not remember if we have a good solution or not. The ML2 plugin addresses this by calling each

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - Vendor specific erros

2013-11-19 Thread Avishay Balderman
Hi Salvatore I think you are mixing between the state machine (ACTIVE,PENDEING_XYZ,etc) and the status description All I want to do is to write a vendor specific error message when the state is ERROR. I DO NOT want to touch the state machine. See:

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint: standard specification of guest CPU topology

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
For attention of maintainers of Nova virt drivers A while back there was a bug requesting the ability to set the CPU topology (sockets/cores/threads) for guests explicitly https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1199019 I countered that setting explicit topology doesn't play well with booting

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Core pinning

2013-11-19 Thread Tuomas Paappanen
Hi Roman, I haven't but I will write a blueprint for the core pinning part. I considered vcpu element usage as well but in that case you can not set e.g. vcpu-0 to run on pcpu-0. Vcpus and emulator are sharing all pcpus defined in cpuset so I decided to use cputune element. Are you using

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Horizon based UI Updates in Tuskar-UI

2013-11-19 Thread Jiri Tomasek
Hi, As Horizon is recently undergoing a set of user interface changes, there will be needed some effort in getting Tuskar-UI up to date with new Horizon UI structure and features. The changes are comming mostly from the update of Twitter Bootstrap framework to latest version (3.0) and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Core pinning

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 02:46:06PM +0200, Tuomas Paappanen wrote: Hi all, I would like to hear your thoughts about core pinning in Openstack. Currently nova(with qemu-kvm) supports usage of cpu set of PCPUs what can be used by instances. I didn't find blueprint, but I think this feature is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Core pinning

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:57:22AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: On 11/13/2013 11:40 AM, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: But, from performance point of view it is better to exclusively dedicate PCPUs for VCPUs and emulator. In some cases you may want to guarantee that only one instance(and its VCPUs) is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][heat][[keystone] RFC: introducing request identification

2013-11-19 Thread Dolph Mathews
Related BP: Create a unified request identifier https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cross-service-request-id On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:04 AM, haruka tanizawa harube...@gmail.comwrote: Hi stackers!! I'd like to ask for your opinions about my idea of identifying request.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-19 Thread Bartosz Górski
Hi, On 11/15/13 9:17 PM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com wrote: You are right. At the same time heat feature should not enforce some specific deployment requirements to other openstack components especially taking into account different security considerations. I am

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Hi Sam, Eugene, Avishay, etal, Today I spent some time to create a write-up for SSL Termination not exactly design doc. Please share your comments! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFOrIa10lKr0xQyLVGsVfXr29NQBq2nYTvMkMJ_inbo/edit Would like comments/discussion especially on

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-19 Thread Édouard Thuleau
Hi, It's an interesting feature. But just to understand, what do you blame to the actual implementation with iptables and linux bridge? The OVS release 1.11.0 implements a new feature calls 'megaflows' which reduce the number of kernel/usespace crossings. Actually, OVS neutron agent uses simple

[openstack-dev] Unable to access outside world from Openstack instance after assining floating ip

2013-11-19 Thread Priti Sarap
Hello All, I deployed latest devstack code and tried to access outside world from openstack instance. Before assigning floating-ip to an instance I am able to ping google.com, but after assigning floating-ip to that instance I am not able to ping google.com from that instance. Does anyone has

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] bug day - Nov 19

2013-11-19 Thread Alexander Ignatov
Sergey, Thank you. I’ve edited information section related to assigning tags in bug title. Just added more examples. Regards, Alexander Ignatov On 19 Nov 2013, at 15:13, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: Reminder: today is the bug triage day on Savanna project. I’ve

Re: [openstack-dev] Unable to access outside world from Openstack instance after assining floating ip

2013-11-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/11/13 19:37 +0530, Priti Sarap wrote: Hello All, I deployed latest devstack code and tried to access outside world from openstack instance. Before assigning floating-ip to an instance I am able to ping google.com, but after assigning floating-ip to that instance I am not able to ping

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Chuck Short
Hi I am excited to see containers getting such traction in the openstack project. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short

[openstack-dev] [infra] How to determine patch set load for a given project

2013-11-19 Thread Matt Riedemann
We have a team working on getting CI setup for DB2 10.5 in sqlalchemy-migrate and they were asking me if there was a way to calculate the patch load through that project. I asked around in the infra IRC channel and Jeremy Stanley pointed out that there might be something available in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Feiner
A substantive reason for switching from mox to mock is the derelict state of mox releases. There hasn't been a release of mox in three years: the latest, mox-0.5.3, was released in 2010 [1, 2]. Moreover, in the past 3 years, substantial bugs have been fixed in upstream mox. For example, with the

[openstack-dev] [Nova] When is a blueprint unnecessary?

2013-11-19 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, One of the bits of feedback that came from the Nova Project Structure and Process session at the design summit was that it would be nice to skip having blueprints for smaller items. In an effort to capture this, I updated the blueprint review criteria [1] with the following: Some

[openstack-dev] Search Project - summit follow up

2013-11-19 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hey OpenStackers, I hope you all enjoyed Hong Kong Summit and for those who couldn't attend, I hope we will see each other next time! For all of you, I'd like to follow up on conversation from Summit about Search project [0], which Dmitri introduced and I believe it has great potential for

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting agenda

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Pouliot
Hi All, The agenda for todays Hyper-V meeting * Cloudbase-init improvements * Ceilometer fixes * Puppet Module Status * Ci Update ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] When is a blueprint unnecessary?

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:56:10AM -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, One of the bits of feedback that came from the Nova Project Structure and Process session at the design summit was that it would be nice to skip having blueprints for smaller items. In an effort to capture this, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [style] () vs \ continuations

2013-11-19 Thread David Stanek
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.comwrote: +1 to sticking something in hacking. FWIW I would probably do the following to avoid the debate altogether: result = self._path_file_exists(ds_browser, folder_path, file_name) folder_exists, file_exists,

[openstack-dev] [UX] Automatically post new threads from AskBot to the list

2013-11-19 Thread Julie Pichon
Hi folks, I've been thinking about the AskBot UX website [0] and its lack of visibility, particularly for new community members. I think it would be valuable to have the first post from new conversation threads be posted to the -dev list with the appropriate [UX] tag, with a link to AskBot and a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-19 Thread Chuck Short
Hi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Peter Feiner pe...@gridcentric.ca wrote: A substantive reason for switching from mox to mock is the derelict state of mox releases. There hasn't been a release of mox in three years: the latest, mox-0.5.3, was released in 2010 [1, 2]. Moreover, in the

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-19 Thread Mike Wilson
The current implementation is fairly generic, the plan is to get it into the ML2 plugin. -Mike On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] When is a blueprint unnecessary?

2013-11-19 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/19/2013 11:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:56:10AM -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, One of the bits of feedback that came from the Nova Project Structure and Process session at the design summit was that it would be nice to skip having blueprints for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-19 Thread Rossella Sblendido
Hi all, sorry if this is a bit OT now. I contacted some hotels to see if we could get a special price if we book many rooms. According to my research the difference in price is not much. Also, as Anita was saying, booking for everybody is more complicated. So I decided to booked a room for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Metadata Search API

2013-11-19 Thread Paula Ta-Shma
Hi Paula, Where can we see the source code for the prototype and any API specs that you may have? Best, -jay Hi Jay, Thanks for your interest. Our prototype intercepts Swift REST requests using proxy server middleware and uses Solr as the indexing/search back end. Our search API is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vijay Venkatachalam's message of 2013-11-19 05:48:43 -0800: Hi Sam, Eugene, Avishay, etal, Today I spent some time to create a write-up for SSL Termination not exactly design doc. Please share your comments!

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-19 Thread Walter A. Boring IV
Awesome guys, Thanks for picking this up. I'm looking forward to the reviews :) Walt On 19.11.2013 10:38, Kekane, Abhishek wrote: Hi All, Greetings!!! Hi there! And thanks for your interest in cinder and taskflow! We are in process of implementing the TaskFlow 0.1 in Cinder for copy

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Feiner
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Chuck Short chuck.sh...@canonical.com wrote: Hi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Peter Feiner pe...@gridcentric.ca wrote: A substantive reason for switching from mox to mock is the derelict state of mox releases. There hasn't been a release of mox in three

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sweet! Feel free to ask lots of questions and jump on both irc channels (#openstack-state-management and #openstack-cinder) if u need any help that can be better solved in real time chat. Thanks for helping getting this ball rolling :-) Sent from my really tiny device... On Nov 19, 2013, at

Re: [openstack-dev] Search Project - summit follow up

2013-11-19 Thread Dmitri Zimin(e) | StackStorm
Thanks Jarda for the intro; Hi Stackers, The project Search is a service providing fast full-text search for resources across OpenStack services. The idea was introduced and discussed at the Summit. We confirmed the need for Search service: 1) from core Horizon team and UX 2) from integrators

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Edgar Magana
Isaku, Do you have in mind any implementation, any BP? We could actually work on this together, all plugins will get the benefits of a better implementation. Thanks, Edgar On 11/19/13 3:57 AM, Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 03:55:49PM -0500, Robert

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][heat][[keystone] RFC: introducing request identification

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Young
On 11/19/2013 08:21 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote: Related BP: Create a unified request identifier https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cross-service-request-id And we have discussed workplans as well, which would be data to be carried along with the request id

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Lu, Lianhao lianhao...@intel.com wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote on 2013-11-19: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lianhao Lu, I briefly summarized my recollection of that session in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-security] Neutron security groups for L2 networks in Havana

2013-11-19 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi Kanthi, The issue is that the nova-api says that by default every instance needs to be in a default security group that blocks all ingress traffic from outside and allows all ingress from instances that belong to the same security group. If an instance does not have an ip address we are unable

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Metadata Search API

2013-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/19/2013 11:33 AM, Paula Ta-Shma wrote: Hi Paula, Where can we see the source code for the prototype and any API specs that you may have? Best, -jay Hi Jay, Thanks for your interest. Our prototype intercepts Swift REST requests using proxy server middleware and uses Solr as the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Core pinning

2013-11-19 Thread yunhong jiang
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 12:52 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 02:46:06PM +0200, Tuomas Paappanen wrote: Hi all, I would like to hear your thoughts about core pinning in Openstack. Currently nova(with qemu-kvm) supports usage of cpu set of PCPUs what can be used

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/18/2013 06:47 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the scheduler would not make unreliable/racey decisions, even when there are multiple schedulers). It's not

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-19 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On 11/18/2013 11:35 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: There were some concerns expressed at the summit about scheduler scalability in Nova, and a little recollection of Boris' proposal to keep the needed state in memory. I also heard one guy say that he thinks Nova does not really need a general SQL

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - Vendor specific erros

2013-11-19 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks Avishay. I think the status description error was introduced with this aim. Whether vendor-specific error descriptions can make sense to a tenant, that's a good question. Personally, I feel like as a tenant that information would not be a lot useful to me, as I would not be able to do any

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: Hey all Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, just another

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-15 12:41:53 -0800: Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that we all needed at the design summit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat/The_Missing_Diagram I've documented 5

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Metadata Search API

2013-11-19 Thread Paula Ta-Shma
My apologies, I'm apparently coming into this quite late :) Would you mind sharing a link to the HP proposal? I wasn't at the summit unfortunately and am playing a bit of catch up. Hi Jay, Take a look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MetadataSearch There are links there to the REST API

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] How to determine patch set load for a given project

2013-11-19 Thread Ilya Shakhat
Matt, As an option you may estimate the load using Stackalytics data on number of commits - http://stackalytics.com/?release=icehousemetric=commitsproject_type=allmodule=sqlalchemy-migrateNumber of commits is certainly less than number of patches, but for project sqlalchemy-migrate the multiplier

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-19 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/11/13 11:15, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 15/11/13 08:46 -0600, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 15/11/13 02:48, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Metadata Search API

2013-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/19/2013 01:08 PM, Paula Ta-Shma wrote: My apologies, I'm apparently coming into this quite late :) Would you mind sharing a link to the HP proposal? I wasn't at the summit unfortunately and am playing a bit of catch up. Hi Jay, Take a look at

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Sam Alba
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Chuck Short chuck.sh...@canonical.com wrote: Hi I am excited to see containers getting such traction in the openstack project. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Not having

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
If you start adding these states you might really want to consider the following work that is going on in other projects. It surely appears that everyone is starting to hit the same problem (and joining efforts would produce a more beneficial result). Relevant icehouse etherpads: -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 09:29:00 -0800: On 11/18/2013 06:47 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the scheduler would not make

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
And also of course, nearly forgot a similar situation/review in heat. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49440/ Except theres was/is dealing with stack locking (a heat concept). On 11/19/13 10:33 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: If you start adding these states you might really

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Windisch
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM, James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: Hey all Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sorry that was I prefer #3 (not #2) at the end there. Keyboard failure ;) On 11/19/13 10:27 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Personally I would prefer #3 from the below. #2 I think will still have to deal with consistency issues, just switching away from a DB doesn't make magical

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Ironic] [TripleO] scheduling flow with Ironic?

2013-11-19 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Alex Glikson glik...@il.ibm.com wrote: Thanks, I understand the Nova scheduler part. One of the gaps there is related to the blueprint we have are working on [1]. I was wondering regarding the role of Ironic, and the exact interaction between the user, Nova

[openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
Currently the Nova libvirt driver is declaring that it wants a minimum of libvirt 0.9.6. For cases where we use features newer than this, we have to do conditional logic to ensure we operate correctly on old libvirt. We don't want to keep adding conditionals forever since they complicate the code

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:46 -0500, Eric Windisch wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM, James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: Hey all Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:02:45AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: Hey all Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-19 Thread Steven Dake
On 11/17/2013 01:57 PM, Steve Baker wrote: On 11/15/2013 05:19 AM, Christopher Armstrong wrote: http://docs.heatautoscale.apiary.io/ I've thrown together a rough sketch of the proposed API for autoscaling. It's written in API-Blueprint format (which is a simple subset of Markdown) and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will fill their resources up in a relatively well balanced way until one scheduler's resources are exhausted. At that

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Version Negotiation Middleware Accept Header issue

2013-11-19 Thread Fuente, Pablo A
Hi, I noticed that the Accept HTTP Header checked in the Version Negotiation Middleware by Heat is the same MIME type used by Glance (application/vnd.openstack.images-) Is this OK, or should it be something like application/vnd.openstack.orchestration-? If this is the case

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/19/2013 12:27 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Personally I would prefer #3 from the below. #2 I think will still have to deal with consistency issues, just switching away from a DB doesn't make magical ponies and unicorns appear (in-fact it can potentially make the problem worse if its done

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will fill their resources up in a relatively

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Rick Jones
On 11/19/2013 10:02 AM, James Bottomley wrote: It is possible to extend the Nova APIs to control containers more fully, but there was resistance do doing this on the grounds that it's expanding the scope of Nova, hence the new project. How well received would another CLI/API to learn be among

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/19/2013 01:51 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi Vijay, Thanks for working on this. As was discussed at the summit, immediate solution seems to be passing certificates via transient fields in Vip object, which will avoid the need for certificate management (incl. storing them). If certificate management is concerned then I agree that it

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/19/2013 03:08 PM, Rick Jones wrote: On 11/19/2013 10:02 AM, James Bottomley wrote: It is possible to extend the Nova APIs to control containers more fully, but there was resistance do doing this on the grounds that it's expanding the scope of Nova, hence the new project. How well

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/19/2013 08:37 PM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 18.11.2013 21:52:04: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 18.11.2013 21:54 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-19 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Ladislav Smola lsm...@redhat.com wrote: Hello. I have a couple of additional questions. 1. What about IPMI data that we want to get by polling. E.g. temperatures, etc. Will the Ironic be polling these kind of data and send them directly to collector(or

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is deleted it should trigger any remove_config and wait for the server to acknowledge when that is complete. This allows for any evacuation/deregistering

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is deleted it should trigger any remove_config and wait for the server to acknowledge when that is complete. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-19 13:06:21 -0800: On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is deleted it should trigger any remove_config

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/11/13 19:03, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-15 12:41:53 -0800: Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that we all needed at the design summit:

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Easier way of trying TripleO

2013-11-19 Thread James Slagle
I'd like to propose an idea around a simplified and complimentary version of devtest that makes it easier for someone to get started and try TripleO. The goal being to get people using TripleO as a way to experience the deployment of OpenStack, and not necessarily a way to get an experience of

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Icehouse roadmap status

2013-11-19 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, We've made a lot of progress on reviewing blueprints over the last week and have the icehouse-1 [1] list in reasonable shape. Note that icehouse-1 development must be completed two weeks from today, and that time frame includes a major holiday in the US. Please adjust plans and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] PTL election

2013-11-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: The two candidates who nominated themselves in time for this election are: * David Lyle * Matthias Runge The election will be set up tomorrow, and will stay open for voting for a week. The poll is now closed, and the winner is David Lyle ! You

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] PTL election

2013-11-19 Thread Matthias Runge
On 11/19/2013 11:02 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: The poll is now closed, and the winner is David Lyle ! David, well done and honestly deserved! Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Salvatore Orlando
For what is worth we have considered this aspect from the perspective of the Neutron plugin my team maintains (NVP) during the past release cycle. The synchronous model that most plugins with a controller on the backend currently implement is simple and convenient, but has some flaws: -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Version Negotiation Middleware Accept Header issue

2013-11-19 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 19/11/13 19:40 +, Fuente, Pablo A wrote: Hi, I noticed that the Accept HTTP Header checked in the Version Negotiation Middleware by Heat is the same MIME type used by Glance (application/vnd.openstack.images-) Is this OK, or should it be something like

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/11/13 19:14, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/11/13 11:15, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 15/11/13 08:46 -0600, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:57

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Can u explain a little how using celery achieves workflow reliability and avoids races (or mitigates spaghetti code)? To me celery acts as a way to distribute tasks, but does not deal with actually forming a easily understandable way of knowing that a piece of code that u design is actually

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, We've talked a lot about requirements for new compute drivers [1]. I think the same sort of standards shold be applied for a new third-party API, such as the GCE API [2]. Before we can consider taking on a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks for your reply Joshua, some more comments inline; however I think I'm probably going off topic here given the initial subject of this thread. Talking about Taskflow, and moving aside for the plugins, which have not a lot of community-wide interest, do you reckon Taskflow might be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 November 2013 08:31, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: and building on unstable Nova APIs. Anything which we accept is a part of OpenStack should not get randomly made unusable by one contributor while other contributors constantly have to scramble to catch up. Either stuff winds

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Easier way of trying TripleO

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 November 2013 10:40, James Slagle james.sla...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to propose an idea around a simplified and complimentary version of devtest that makes it easier for someone to get started and try TripleO. I think its a grand idea (in fact it's been floated many times). For a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/19/2013 03:46 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 16 November 2013 08:31, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: and building on unstable Nova APIs. Anything which we accept is a part of OpenStack should not get randomly made unusable by one contributor while other contributors constantly have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 11/19/2013 03:46 PM, Robert Collins wrote: As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think is pretty core and we have no native replacement [configdrive is not a replacement :P]. Slightly off tangent

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