[openstack-dev] [Neutron][ServiceVM] servicevm IRC meeting reminder (June 10 Tuesday 5:00(AM)UTC-)

2014-06-09 Thread Isaku Yamahata
Hi. This is a reminder mail for the servicevm IRC meeting June 10, 2014 Tuesdays 5:00(AM)UTC- #openstack-meeting on freenode https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceVM agenda: (feel free to add your items) * project incubation * NFV meeting follow up * open discussion -- Isaku Yamahata

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi, I think that option 2 should be preferred at this stage. I also think that certificate should be immutable, if you want a new one, create a new one and update the listener to use it. This removes any chance of mistakes, need for versioning etc. -Sam. -Original Message- From: Jorge

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Too much shim rest proxy mechanism drivers in ML2

2014-06-09 Thread henry hly
hi mathieu, I totally agree. By using l2population with tunnel networks (vxlan, gre), you will not be able to plug an external device which could possibly terminate your tunnel. The ML2 plugin has to be aware a new port in the vxlan segment. I think this is the scope of this bp :

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Fuel] relationship btw TripleO and Fuel

2014-06-09 Thread LeslieWang
Dear all, Seems like both Fuel and TripleO are designed to solve problem of complex Openstack installation and Deployment. TripleO is using Heat for orchestration. If we can define network creation, OS provision and deployment in Heat template, seems like they can achieve similar goal. So can

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Eoghan Glynn
So there are certain words that mean certain things, most don't, some do. If words that mean certain things are used then some folks start using the word and have expectations around the word and the OpenStack Technical Committee and other OpenStack programs find themselves on the hook

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Eoghan Glynn
- Original Message - On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:29 -0400, Anita Kuno wrote: The issue I have with the word certify is that it requires someone or a group of someones to attest to something. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Fuel] relationship btw TripleO and Fuel

2014-06-09 Thread Robert Collins
Well, fuel devs are also hacking on TripleO :) I don't know the exact timelines but I'm certainly hopeful that we'll see long term convergence - as TripleO gets more capable, more and more of Fuel could draw on TripleO facilities, for instance. -Rob On 9 June 2014 19:41, LeslieWang

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Mehdi Abaakouk added to oslo.messaging-core

2014-06-09 Thread Victor Stinner
Le vendredi 6 juin 2014, 15:57:09 Mark McLoughlin a écrit : Mehdi has been making great contributions and reviews on oslo.messaging for months now, so I've added him to oslo.messaging-core. Thank you for all your hard work Mehdi! Congrats Mehdi :-) Victor

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ml2] Too much shim rest proxy mechanism drivers in ML2

2014-06-09 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 6 June 2014 10:17, henry hly henry4...@gmail.com wrote: ML2 mechanism drivers are becoming another kind of plugins. Although they can be loaded together, but can not work with each other. [...] Could we remove all device related adaption(rest/ssh/netconf/of... proxy) from these mechanism

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Arbitrary extra specs for compute nodes?

2014-06-09 Thread Day, Phil
Hi Joe, Can you give some examples of what that data would be used for ? It sounds on the face of it that what you’re looking for is pretty similar to what Extensible Resource Tracker sets out to do (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86050 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71557) Phil From:

[openstack-dev] Debugging Devstack Neutron with Pycharm

2014-06-09 Thread Gal Sagie
Hello all, I am trying to debug devstack Neutron with Pycharm, i have found here ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronDevelopment#How_to_debug_Neutron_.28and_other_OpenStack_projects_probably_.29 ) That i need to change the neutron server code to this= eventlet.monkey_patch() To:

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Debugging Devstack Neutron with Pycharm

2014-06-09 Thread Gal Sagie
Hello all, I am trying to debug devstack Neutron with Pycharm, i have found here ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronDevelopment#How_to_debug_Neutron_.28and_other_OpenStack_projects_probably_.29 ) That i need to change the neutron server code to this= eventlet.monkey_patch() To:

[openstack-dev] [nova] AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation scheduler filter - bug, or new feature proposal?

2014-06-09 Thread Jesse Pretorius
Hi everyone, We have a need to be able to dedicate a specific host aggregate to a list of tenants/projects. If the aggregate is marked as such, the aggregate may only be used by that specified list of tenants and those tenants may only be scheduled to that aggregate. The

[openstack-dev] Stateful Applications on OpenStack

2014-06-09 Thread hossein zabolzadeh
Hi OpenStack Development Community, I know that the OpenStack interest is to become a cloud computing operating system. And this simple sentence means: Say goodbye to Statefull Applications. But, as you know we are in the transition phase from stateful apps to stateless apps(Remember Pets and

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Designate Incubation Request

2014-06-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/06/2014 12:06 PM, Mac Innes, Kiall wrote: Several of the TC requested we have an openstack-infra managed DevStack gate enabled before they would cast their vote - I'm happy to say, we've got it :) With the merge of [1], Designate now has voting devstack / requirements / docs jobs. An

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 9 June 2014 09:44, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Since certification seems to be quite an overloaded term already, I wonder would a more back-to-basics phrase such as quality assured better capture the Cinder project's use of the word? It does exactly what it says on the tin ...

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS support RST document on Gerrit

2014-06-09 Thread Evgeny Fedoruk
Hi All, A Spec. RST document for LBaaS TLS support was added to Gerrit for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98640 You are welcome to start commenting it for any open discussions. I tried to address each aspect being discussed, please add comments about missing things. Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 6 June 2014 18:29, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote: So there are certain words that mean certain things, most don't, some do. If words that mean certain things are used then some folks start using the word and have expectations around the word and the OpenStack Technical Committee

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Evgeny Fedoruk
Hi All, A Spec RST document was added to Gerrit for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98640 You are welcome to start commenting it for any open discussions. I tried to address each aspect being discussed, please add comments about missing things. Thanks, Evgeny -Original

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Eoghan Glynn
On 9 June 2014 09:44, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Since certification seems to be quite an overloaded term already, I wonder would a more back-to-basics phrase such as quality assured better capture the Cinder project's use of the word? It does exactly what it says on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][Tuskar-UI] Location for common dashboard code?

2014-06-09 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
Hiya, That makes sense. Just to take a concrete example - in tuskar-ui, our flavors' table code (https://github.com/openstack/tuskar-ui/blob/master/tuskar_ui/infrastructure/flavors/tables.py) uses the following code from openstack_dashboard.dashboards.admin.flavors.tables

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Using saltstack as orchestrator for fuel

2014-06-09 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
Hi folks, I know that sometime ago saltstack was evaluated to be used as orchestrator in fuel, so I've prepared some initial specification, that addresses basic points of integration, and general requirements for orchestrator. In my opinion saltstack perfectly fits our needs, and we can benefit

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation scheduler filter - bug, or new feature proposal?

2014-06-09 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi Jesse, I would say that is a documentation bug for the “AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation” filter. When this was implemented the objective was to schedule only instances from specific tenants for those aggregates but not make them exclusive. That’s why the work on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] One performance issue about VXLAN pool initiation

2014-06-09 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Mike, Thanks a lot for your response! Some comments: There’s some in-Python filtering following it which does not seem necessary; the alloc.vxlan_vni not in vxlan_vnis” phrase could just as well be a SQL “NOT IN” expression. There we have to do specific set intersection between configured

[openstack-dev] [all] Gate still backed up - need assistance with nova-network logging enhancements

2014-06-09 Thread Sean Dague
Based on some back of envelope math the gate is basically processing 2 changes an hour, failing one of them. So if you want to know how long the gate is, take the length / 2 in hours. Right now we're doing a lot of revert roulette, trying to revert things that we think landed about the time

[openstack-dev] Constraint validation and property list filtering in Murano

2014-06-09 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
Hi folks, There is an important topic which I would like to discuss: it seems like there is a place for improvement in UI validation and filtering in Murano. The reason of writing this is a change-set [1] (being an implementation of blueprint [2]) which allows package developers to specify the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/06/2014 08:07 AM, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: Forcing an instance to a specific host is very useful for the operator - it fulfills a valid use case for monitoring and testing purposes. Pray tell, what is that valid use case? I am not defending a particular way of doing this, just

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/05/2014 09:54 AM, Day, Phil wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 June 2014 19:23 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler On 06/04/2014 11:56

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-sdk-php] Use of final and private keywords to limit extending

2014-06-09 Thread Matthew Farina
If you don't mind I'd like to step back for a moment and talk about the end users of this codebase and the types code it will be used in. We're looking to make application developers successful in PHP. The top 10% of PHP application developers aren't an issue. If they have an SDK or not they will

[openstack-dev] Promoting healing script to scheme migration script?

2014-06-09 Thread Jakub Libosvar
Hi all, I'd like to get some opinions on following idea: Because currently we have (thanks to Ann) WIP of healing script capable of changing database scheme by comparing tables in the database to models in current codebase, I started to think whether it could be used generally to db upgrades

Re: [openstack-dev] Stateful Applications on OpenStack

2014-06-09 Thread Matthew Farina
In my experience building apps that run in OpenStack, you don't give up state. You shift how you handle state. For example, instead of always routing a user to the same instance and that instance holding the session data there is a common session store for the app (possibly synced between

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][db] Promoting healing script to scheme migration script?

2014-06-09 Thread Jakub Libosvar
Forgot to add tags, sorry On 06/09/2014 04:18 PM, Jakub Libosvar wrote: Hi all, I'd like to get some opinions on following idea: Because currently we have (thanks to Ann) WIP of healing script capable of changing database scheme by comparing tables in the database to models in current

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Mid-cycle questions for folks

2014-06-09 Thread Rossella Sblendido
I had to call too. I got same conditions as Carl. cheers, Rossella On 06/05/2014 04:45 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: It would be ideal if folks could use the room block I reserved when booking, if their company policy allows it. I've gotten word from the hotel they may release the block if more

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-sdk-php] Reasons to use Behat/behavior driven development in an SDK?

2014-06-09 Thread Matthew Farina
Jamie, thanks for sharing those links. They are quite useful and led me to a couple questions. 1. To quote the first link, To do this, we need a way to describe the requirement such that everyone – the business folks, the analyst, the developer and the tester – have a common understanding of the

Re: [openstack-dev] Promoting healing script to scheme migration script?

2014-06-09 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014, Jakub Libosvar libos...@redhat.com wrote: I'd like to get some opinions on following idea: Because currently we have (thanks to Ann) WIP of healing script capable of changing database scheme by comparing tables in the database to models in current codebase, I started to

Re: [openstack-dev] Arbitrary extra specs for compute nodes?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Friesen
On 06/07/2014 12:30 AM, Joe Cropper wrote: Hi Folks, I was wondering if there was any such mechanism in the compute node structure to hold arbitrary key-value pairs, similar to flavors' extra_specs concept? It appears there are entries for things like pci_stats, stats and recently added

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Anita Kuno
On 06/09/2014 03:38 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: So there are certain words that mean certain things, most don't, some do. If words that mean certain things are used then some folks start using the word and have expectations around the word and the OpenStack Technical Committee and other

[openstack-dev] The possible ways of high availability for non-cloud-ready apps running on openstack

2014-06-09 Thread hossein zabolzadeh
Hi there. I am dealing with large amount of legacy application(MediaWiki, Joomla, ...) running on openstack. I am looking for the best way to improve high availability of my instances. All applications are not designed for fail(Non-Cloud-Ready Apps). So, what is the best way of improving HA on my

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] [Heat] Glance Metadata Catalog for Capabilities and Tags

2014-06-09 Thread Tripp, Travis S
FYI: We now have the initial Glance spec up for review. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98554/ We generalized a few concepts and will look at how to bring a few of those concepts back in potentially via a future spec. Thanks, Travis From: Tripp, Travis S Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:27 PM

Re: [openstack-dev] Stateful Applications on OpenStack

2014-06-09 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, You still can run legacy application on OpenStack with HA and DR using the same good old school tools like pacemaker, heartbeat, DRBD etc. There are all necessary features available in latest OpenStack. The most important feature for HA - secondary IP address was implemented in Havana. Now

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey German, I agree with you. I don't really want to go with option #1 because making decisions on behalf of the user (especially when security is involved) can be quite tricky and dangerous. Your concerns are valid for option #2 but I still think it is the better option to go with. I believe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Spec review request

2014-06-09 Thread Ben Nemec
Please don't send review requests to the list. The preferred methods of requesting reviews are explained here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html Thanks. -Ben On 06/07/2014 12:31 AM, Kanzhe Jiang wrote: The serviceBase and insertion spec has been up

Re: [openstack-dev] Stateful Applications on OpenStack

2014-06-09 Thread hossein zabolzadeh
Really thanks Georgy for your complete answer. My major concern on openstack was HA on my legacy apps(I wanted to use cloudstack instead of openstack becasue of its more attention to legacy apps and more HA features). But now, I will check your listed HA solutions on openstack and come back as

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Friesen
On 06/09/2014 07:59 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/06/2014 08:07 AM, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: Forcing an instance to a specific host is very useful for the operator - it fulfills a valid use case for monitoring and testing purposes. Pray tell, what is that valid use case? I find it useful

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Cropper
There may also be specific software entitlement issues that make it useful to deterministically know which host your VM will be placed on. This can be quite common in large organizations that have certain software that can be tied to certain hardware or hardware with certain # of CPU capacity,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] DB migration woes

2014-06-09 Thread Devananda van der Veen
There may be some problems with MySQL when testing parallel writes in different non-committing transactions, even in READ COMMITTED mode, due to InnoDB locking, if the queries use non-unique secondary indexes for UPDATE or SELECT..FOR UPDATE queries. This is done by the with_lockmode('update')

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Asselin, Ramy
Based on the discussion I'd like to propose these options: 1. Cinder-certified driver - This is an attempt to move the certification to the project level. 2. CI-tested driver - This is probably the most accurate, at least for what we're trying to achieve for Juno: Continuous Integration of

Re: [openstack-dev] Stateful Applications on OpenStack

2014-06-09 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi Hossein, In additions you may check the following: Heat OS::Heat::HARestarter resource http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html This blog entry about clustering: http://vmtrooper.com/openstack-your-windows-cluster-with-neutron-allowed-address-pairs/ Mistral

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Mistral weekly meeting - meeting minutes

2014-06-09 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
Hi team, Thank you all for participating in Mistral weekly meeting today, meeting minutes are available by the following links: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral_weekly_meeting/2014/mistral_weekly_meeting.2014-06-09-15.59.html Minutes (text):

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] DB migration woes

2014-06-09 Thread Mike Bayer
On Jun 9, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: There may be some problems with MySQL when testing parallel writes in different non-committing transactions, even in READ COMMITTED mode, due to InnoDB locking, if the queries use non-unique secondary indexes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Carlos Garza
I understand this concern and was advocating that a configuration option be available to disable or enable auto updating of SSL certificates. But since every one is in favor of storing meta data on the barbican container directly I guess this is a moot point now. On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:52

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] Third-Party CI Issue: direct access to review.openstack.org port 29418 required

2014-06-09 Thread Asselin, Ramy
All, I've been working on setting up our Cinder 3rd party CI setup. I ran into an issue where Zuul requires direct access to review.openstack.org port 29418, which is currently blocked in my environment. It should be unblocked around the end of June. Since this will likely affect other

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation scheduler filter - bug, or new feature proposal?

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jun 9, 2014 4:12 AM, Jesse Pretorius jesse.pretor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, We have a need to be able to dedicate a specific host aggregate to a list of tenants/projects. If the aggregate is marked as such, the aggregate may only be used by that specified list of tenants and those

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Arbitrary extra specs for compute nodes?

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Cropper
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: On 06/07/2014 12:30 AM, Joe Cropper wrote: Hi Folks, I was wondering if there was any such mechanism in the compute node structure to hold arbitrary key-value pairs, similar to flavors' extra_specs concept?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Jain, Vivek
+1 for the idea of making certificate immutable. However, if Barbican allows updating certs/containers then versioning is a must. Thanks, Vivek On 6/8/14, 11:48 PM, Samuel Bercovici samu...@radware.com wrote: Hi, I think that option 2 should be preferred at this stage. I also think that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [UX] Design for Alarming and Alarm Management

2014-06-09 Thread Liz Blanchard
Hi all, Thanks again for the great comments on the initial cut of wireframes. I’ve updated them a fair amount based on feedback in this e-mail thread along with the feedback written up here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/alarm-management-page-design-discussion Here is a link to the new

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Arbitrary extra specs for compute nodes?

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Cropper
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Hi Joe, Can you give some examples of what that data would be used for ? Sure! For example, in the PowerKVM world, hosts can be dynamically configured to run in split-core processor mode. This setting can be dynamically

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] shared review dashboard proposal

2014-06-09 Thread David Kranz
On 06/02/2014 06:57 AM, Sean Dague wrote: Towards the end of the summit there was a discussion about us using a shared review dashboard to see if a common view by the team would help accelerate people looking at certain things. I spent some time this weekend working on a tool to make building

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] DB migration woes

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/09/2014 12:50 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: There may be some problems with MySQL when testing parallel writes in different non-committing transactions, even in READ COMMITTED mode, due to InnoDB locking, if the queries use non-unique secondary indexes for UPDATE or SELECT..FOR UPDATE

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

2014-06-09 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage Just adding openstack-dev to the CC for now :). - Original Message - From: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Arbitrary extra specs for compute nodes?

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/09/2014 01:38 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Hi Joe, Can you give some examples of what that data would be used for ? Sure! For example, in the PowerKVM world, hosts can be dynamically configured to run in split-core

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/09/2014 12:32 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 06/09/2014 07:59 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/06/2014 08:07 AM, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: Forcing an instance to a specific host is very useful for the operator - it fulfills a valid use case for monitoring and testing purposes. Pray tell,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/09/2014 12:47 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: There may also be specific software entitlement issues that make it useful to deterministically know which host your VM will be placed on. This can be quite common in large organizations that have certain software that can be tied to certain hardware or

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA][Infra] Mid-Cycle Meet-up

2014-06-09 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:07:07PM -0400, Matthew Treinish wrote: Hi Everyone, So we'd like to announce to everyone that we're going to be doing a combined Infra and QA program mid-cycle meet-up. It will be the week of July 14th in Darmstadt, Germany at Deutsche Telekom who has graciously

[openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday June 10th at 19:00 UTC

2014-06-09 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
Hi everyone, The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting on Tuesday June 10th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interested

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] shared review dashboard proposal

2014-06-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/09/2014 01:38 PM, David Kranz wrote: On 06/02/2014 06:57 AM, Sean Dague wrote: Towards the end of the summit there was a discussion about us using a shared review dashboard to see if a common view by the team would help accelerate people looking at certain things. I spent some time this

[openstack-dev] [nova] New extra spec operator proposed

2014-06-09 Thread Maldonado, Facundo N
Hi folks, I submitted a new blueprint proposing the addition of a new operator to the existing ones. BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-all-in-list-operator-to-extra-spec-ops Spec review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98179/ What do you think? Thanks, Facundo.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] DB migration woes

2014-06-09 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/09/2014 12:50 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: There may be some problems with MySQL when testing parallel writes in different non-committing transactions, even in READ COMMITTED mode, due to InnoDB locking, if the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] DB migration woes

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/09/2014 02:57 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/09/2014 12:50 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: There may be some problems with MySQL when testing parallel writes in different non-committing transactions, even in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal: Move CPU and memory allocation ratio out of scheduler

2014-06-09 Thread Alex Glikson
So maybe the problem isn?t having the flavors so much, but in how the user currently has to specific an exact match from that list. If the user could say ?I want a flavor with these attributes? and then the system would find a ?best match? based on criteria set by the cloud admin then would

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Eoghan Glynn
So there are certain words that mean certain things, most don't, some do. If words that mean certain things are used then some folks start using the word and have expectations around the word and the OpenStack Technical Committee and other OpenStack programs find themselves on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Anita Kuno
On 06/09/2014 03:17 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: So there are certain words that mean certain things, most don't, some do. If words that mean certain things are used then some folks start using the word and have expectations around the word and the OpenStack Technical Committee and other

[openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-09 Thread Kurt Griffiths
Folks, this may be a bit of a bombshell, but I think we have been dancing around the issue for a while now and we need to address it head on. Let me start with some background. Back when we started designing the Marconi API, we knew that we wanted to support several messaging patterns. We

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Samuel Bercovici
As far as I understand the Current Barbican implementation is immutable. Can anyone from Barbican comment on this? -Original Message- From: Jain, Vivek [mailto:vivekj...@ebay.com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 8:34 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

[openstack-dev] [hacking] Hacking 0.9.1 released

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi folks, Hacking 0.9.1 has just been released (hacking 0.9.1 had a minor bug). Unlike other dependencies 'OpenStack Proposal Bot' does not automatically push out a patch to the new version. The recommended way to upgrade to hacking 0.9.1 is to add any new failing tests to the exclude list in

[openstack-dev] [UX] [Heat] [Mistral] [Murano] [Neutron] [Solum] Cross-project UI library: gathering the requirements

2014-06-09 Thread Timur Sufiev
Hi All, At the Solum-Murano-Heat cross-project session [1] during the Openstack Juno Summit it was decided that it would be beneficial for the Solum, Murano and Heat projects to implement common UX patterns in separate library. During an early discussion several more projects were added (Mistral

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
As per current implementation, containers are immutable. Do we have any use case to make it mutable? Can we live with new container instead of updating an existing container? Arvind -Original Message- From: Samuel Bercovici [mailto:samu...@radware.com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] DB migration woes

2014-06-09 Thread Mike Bayer
On Jun 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Jun 9, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: There may be some problems with MySQL when testing parallel writes in different non-committing transactions, even in READ COMMITTED mode,

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Designate Incubation Request

2014-06-09 Thread Mac Innes, Kiall
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 07:25 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/06/2014 12:06 PM, Mac Innes, Kiall wrote: Several of the TC requested we have an openstack-infra managed DevStack gate enabled before they would cast their vote - I'm happy to say, we've got it :) With the merge of [1],

[openstack-dev] [ironic]Adding support for ManagedFRU in the IPMI driver

2014-06-09 Thread Lemieux, Luc
Hi I work for Kontron a hardware company that is a member of the foundation since this year. One of our blade product hold 2 complete servers (I7 Haswell chip, 16Gb ram, 120 Gb SSD each) that are managed by a single IPMI BMC (Board Management Controller) using the IPMI ManagedFRU concept. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Arbitrary extra specs for compute nodes?

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Cropper
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/09/2014 01:38 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Hi Joe, Can you give some examples of what that data would be used for ? Sure! For example, in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] blueprint ovs-firewall-driver: OVS implementation of security groups

2014-06-09 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Salvatore, The 80% distinction came from a discussion I had at summit, representing that the majority of features described by the current security groups could be implemented today with OVS without connection tracking. It’s not based on any mathematical calculation… more of a

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] blueprint ovs-firewall-driver: OVS implementation of security groups

2014-06-09 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Paul, Beyond explicit configuration for the cloud operator, documentation and API validation for the end user, is there anything specific you would like to see as a “warning label”? Does iptables do TCP sequence number validation? Where we can, we should strive to match iptables behavior.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] blueprint ovs-firewall-driver: OVS implementation of security groups

2014-06-09 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Carl, You are correct in both distinctions. Like I mentioned to Paul, beyond explicit configuration for the cloud operator, documentation and API validation for the end user, is there anything specific you would like to see as a “warning label”? Amir On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Carl Baldwin

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-09 Thread Sam Harwell
Option A can be made usable provided you do the following: 1. Add an endpoint for determining whether or not the current service supports optional feature X. 2. For each optional feature of the API, clearly document that the feature is optional, and name the feature it is part of.

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Official bug tags

2014-06-09 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Hi all! Dmitry called it to my attention last week that we lacked any official guidelines on bug tags, and I've just gotten around to following up on it. I've created an official list in launchpad and added that to the OpenStack bug tag tags list wiki page here:

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [driverlog] Tail-f CI and it's lack of running and it's DriverLog status

2014-06-09 Thread Kyle Mestery
Hi Luke: After talking with various infra folks, we've noticed the Tail-f CI system is not voting anymore. According to some informal research, the last run for this CI setup was in April [1]. Can you verify this system is still running? We will need this to be working by the middle of Juno-2,

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Griffiths kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com wrote: Folks, this may be a bit of a bombshell, but I think we have been dancing around the issue for a while now and we need to address it head on. Let me start with some background. Back when we started designing

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-09 Thread Janczuk, Tomasz
I could not agree more with the need to re-think Marconi’s current approach to scenario breadth and implementation extensibility/flexibility. The broader the HTTP API surface area, the more limited are the implementation choices, and the harder are performance trade-offs. Current HTTP APIs of

[openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo-specs approval process

2014-06-09 Thread Ben Nemec
Hi all, While the oslo-specs repository has been available for a while and a number of specs proposed, we hadn't agreed on a process for actually approving them (i.e. the normal 2 +2's or something else). This was discussed at the Oslo meeting last Friday and the method decided upon by the

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-09 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Based on the discussion I'd like to propose these options: 1. Cinder-certified driver - This is an attempt to move the certification to the project level. 2. CI-tested driver - This is probably the most accurate, at least for what we're trying to achieve for Juno: Continuous Integration of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Carlos Garza
The barbican team was considering making the container mutable but I don't think it matters now since every one has chimed in and wants the container to be immutable. The current discussion now is that the TLS container will be immutable but the meta data will not be. I'm not sure what is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Douglas Mendizabal
Hi all, I’m strongly in favor of having immutable TLS-typed containers, and very much opposed to storing every revision of changes done to a container. I think that storing versioned containers would add too much complexity to Barbican, where immutable containers would work well. I’m still not

[openstack-dev] [Nova] [Ironic] [TripleO] Fixing HostManager, take two

2014-06-09 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Last week, we tried to fix a bug in the way that Nova's baremetal and ironic drivers are using the HostManager / HostState classes -- they're incorrectly reporting capabilities in an older fashion, which is not in use any more, and thus not exposing the node's stats to the scheduler. The fix

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread John Wood
The impression I have from this thread is that Containers should remain immutable, but it would be helpful to allow services like LBaaS to register as interested in a given Container. This could be the full URI to the load balancer instance for example. This information would allow clients to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Carlos Garza
The use case was that a cert inside the container could be updated while the private key stays the same. IE a new cert would be a resigning of the same old key. By immutable we mean to say that the same UUID would be used on the lbaas side. This is a heavy handed way of expecting the user to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] DB migration woes

2014-06-09 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Mike, For the typical case, your proposal sounds reasonable to me. That should protect against cross-session locking while still getting the benefits of testing DML without committing to disk. The issue I was originally raising is, of course, the special case -- testing of migrations -- which, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Douglas Mendizabal
I understand how this could be helpful, but I still don’t understand why this is Barbican’s problem to solve. From Jorge’s original email: Using this method requires services, such as LBaaS, to register in the form of metadata to a barbican container. If our assumptions are that the GUI can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Douglas Mendizabal's message of 2014-06-09 16:08:02 -0700: Hi all, I’m strongly in favor of having immutable TLS-typed containers, and very much opposed to storing every revision of changes done to a container. I think that storing versioned containers would add too much

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] Hacking 0.9.1 released

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Hacking 0.9.1 has just been released (hacking 0.9.1 had a minor bug). Unlike other dependencies 'OpenStack Proposal Bot' does not automatically push out a patch to the new version. Edit: hacking 0.9.0 had a

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