Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hi Angus, quite a noble intent, one that requires lots of attempts like this you have started. On 10/23/2014 09:32 PM, Angus Salkeld wrote: I have felt some grumblings about usability issues with Heat templates/client/etc.. and wanted a way that users could come and give us feedback easily

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote: Hi Angus, quite a noble intent, one that requires lots of attempts like this you have started. On 10/23/2014 09:32 PM, Angus Salkeld wrote: I have felt some grumblings about usability issues with Heat

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Tim Bell
Angus, There are two groups which may be relevant regarding ‘consumers’ of Heat -Application eco system working group at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Application_Ecosystem_Working_Group -API working group at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group There are some

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Summit] proposed item for the crossproject and/ or Nova meetings in the Design summit

2014-10-24 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Damn, there are multiple discussions on scheduler split while I'm on vacation, thus I can't correctly respond the best I would... Le 24 oct. 2014 03:11, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com a écrit : On 10/23/2014 07:57 PM, Elzur, Uri wrote: Today, OpenStack makes placement decision mainly based on

[openstack-dev] [all][doc]

2014-10-24 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Hi all, I have a question for you devs. I don't understand the difference between this link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/ project-testing-interface.rst and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProjectTestingInterface Some parts don't match (e.g. unittest running

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Meg McRoberts
Terrific idea! So what happens with the feedback you receive? I am, of course, most interested in issues that might help us improve the documentation, of course, but it's a general question about how this information flows to the Product Engineering team. meg On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:46 PM,

[openstack-dev] [all][doc] project testing interface

2014-10-24 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Hi all, I have a question for you devs. I don't understand the difference between this link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/project-testing-interface.rst and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProjectTestingInterface Some parts don't match (e.g. unittest running

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread shihanzhang
Hi, Elena Ezhova, thanks for your work to this problem! I agree with your analysis, this why I commit this bug but don't submit patch for it. I have want to use conntrack to solve this bug, but I also thought the problem you have said: The problem here is that it is sometimes

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Oct 23 1800 UTC

2014-10-24 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks for attending meeting! Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-23-18.01.html On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Kevin Benton
I think the root cause of the problem here is that we are losing segregation between tenants at the conntrack level. The compute side plugs everything into the same namespace and we have no guarantees about uniqueness of any other fields kept by conntrack. Because of this loss of uniqueness, I

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][ServiceVM] servicevm and Paris summit(BoF)

2014-10-24 Thread Isaku Yamahata
Hi, there are several efforts to run service in VM.[1][2][3] Although we focused on router service, other services like lbaas have similar requirements. So it will be good to have a BoF or something. I created a poll page(following NFV BoF), and please register if you're interested

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Just like Kevin I was considering using conntrack zones to segregate connections. However, I don't know whether this would be feasible as I've never used iptables CT target in real applications. Segregation should probably happen at the security group level - or even at the rule level - rather

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Nice!, It sounds like a good mechanism to handle this. Defining a good mechanism here is crucial, we must be aware of the 2^16 zones limit [1], and that ipset rules will coalesce connections to lots of different IPs over the same rule. May be a good option is to tag connections per rule (we

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [stable] Tool to aid in scalability problems mitigation.

2014-10-24 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
- Original Message - Hi Miguel, while we'd need to hear from the stable team, I think it's not such a bad idea to make this tool available to users of pre-juno openstack releases. As far as upstream repos are concerned, I don't know if this tool violates the criteria for stable

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Kevin Benton
While a zone per rule would be nice because we can easily delete connection state by only referencing a zone, that's probably overkill. We only need enough to disambiguate between overlapping IPs so we can then delete connection state by matching standard L3/4 headers again, right? I think a

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally][users]: Synchronizing between multiple scenario instances.

2014-10-24 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Behazd, Ok, for now we can do it in such way. What I am thinking is that this *logic* should be implemented on benchmark.runner level. Cause different load generators are using different approaches to generate load. So in case of serial runner it's even impossible to make locking. So what about

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Kevin, I agree, with you, 1 zone per port should be reasonable. The 2^16 rule limit will force us into keeping state (to tie ports to zones across reboots), may be this state can be just recovered by reading the iptables rules at boot, and reconstructing the current openvswitch-agent local

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
sorry: when I said boot, I mean openvswitch agent restart. - Original Message - Kevin, I agree, with you, 1 zone per port should be reasonable. The 2^16 rule limit will force us into keeping state (to tie ports to zones across reboots), may be this state can be just recovered by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-24 Thread Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis
Le 23/10/2014 23:55, Gabriel Hurley a écrit : 1) If you’re going to store very large amounts of data in the session, then session cleanup is going to become an important issue to prevent excessive data growth from old sessions. 2) SQLite is far worse to go into production with than

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [qa] [oslo] Declarative HTTP Tests

2014-10-24 Thread Chris Dent
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: Thanks for the feedback Doug, it's useful. WebTest isn’t quite what you’re talking about, but does provide a way to talk to a WSGI app from within a test suite rather simply. Can you expand a little on why “declarative” tests are better suited for this

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [stable] Tool to aid in scalability problems mitigation.

2014-10-24 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 24/10/14 11:56, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: - Original Message - Hi Miguel, while we'd need to hear from the stable team, I think it's not such a bad idea to make this tool available to users of pre-juno openstack releases.

[openstack-dev] [tempest] [devstack] Generic scripts for Tempest configuration

2014-10-24 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
Hi all, we are using Tempest tests to verify every changes in different OpenStack components and we have scripts in devstack, which allow to configure Tempest. We want to use Tempest tests to verify different clouds, not only installed with devstack and to do this we need to configure Tempest

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest] [devstack] Generic scripts for Tempest configuration

2014-10-24 Thread Andrey Kurilin
Hi Timur! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94473/ - this is what you need:) On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Timur Nurlygayanov tnurlygaya...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi all, we are using Tempest tests to verify every changes in different OpenStack components and we have scripts in devstack,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis yves-gwenael.bour...@cloudwatt.com wrote: Le 23/10/2014 23:55, Gabriel Hurley a écrit : 1) If you’re going to store very large amounts of data in the session, then session cleanup is going to become an important issue to prevent

[openstack-dev] [glance] multi-tenant store in Juno

2014-10-24 Thread stuart . mclaren
All, On my devstack setup neither image upload or image download work for the Swift multi-tenant store in Juno (I'm getting E500s). I'd be interested if someone can confirm. With these changes upload/download worked for me: glance upload https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130757/ glance store

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] multi-tenant store in Juno

2014-10-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/24/2014 01:40 PM, stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: All, On my devstack setup neither image upload or image download work for the Swift multi-tenant store in Juno (I'm getting E500s). I'd be interested if someone can confirm. With these changes upload/download worked for me: glance

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/24/2014 02:14 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-10-23 17:18:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I think we have to actually wait for M, don’t we (K L represents 1 year where J is supported, M is the first release where J is not supported and 2.6 can be fully dropped). [...]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Assigning a distinct ct zone to each port sounds more scalable. This should keep the number of zones per host contained. What should the workflow when rules are updated or deleted be? 1) From the rule security group find ports on host where it's applied 2) kill all matching connections for those

[openstack-dev] [MagnetoDB] MagnetoDB Juno release announce

2014-10-24 Thread Ilya Sviridov
Hello openstackers, MagnetoDB team is proud to announce release of Juno milestone [1] Thanks to everyone who participated and contributed! [1] https://launchpad.net/magnetodb/juno/2014.2 -- Ilya Sviridov isviridov @ FreeNode ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest] [devstack] Generic scripts for Tempest configuration

2014-10-24 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
Yes, got it. I will review this spec. Thank you! On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Andrey Kurilin akuri...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi Timur! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94473/ - this is what you need:) On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Timur Nurlygayanov tnurlygaya...@mirantis.com wrote:

[openstack-dev] [MagnetoDB] PTL Candidacy

2014-10-24 Thread Ilya Sviridov
Hello openstackers, I'd like to announce my candidacy as PTL of MagnetoDB[1][2][3] project. As a PTL of MagnetoDB I'll continue my work on building great environment for contributors, making MagnetoDB well known and great software product. [1] https://launchpad.net/magnetodb [2]

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [stable] Tool to aid in scalability problems mitigation.

2014-10-24 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Thanks for your feedback too Ihar, comments inline. - Original Message - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 24/10/14 11:56, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: - Original Message - Hi Miguel, while we'd need to hear from the stable team, I think it's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Cinder] The sorry state of cinder's driver in Glance

2014-10-24 Thread Mike Perez
On 09:11 Thu 23 Oct , Flavio Percoco wrote: According to the use-cases explained in this thread (also in the emails from John and Mathieu) this is something that'd be good having. I'm looking forward to seeing the driver completed. As John mentioned in his email, we should probably sync

[openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-24 Thread Cory Benfield
All, Project Calico [1] is an open source approach to virtual networking based on L3 routing as opposed to L2 bridging. In order to accommodate this approach within OpenStack, we've just submitted 3 blueprints that cover - minor changes to nova to add a new VIF type [2] - some changes to

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Mistral 0.1.1 released

2014-10-24 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, Mistral 0.1.1 and Mistral Client 0.1.1 have been just released. They are bugfix releases for version 0.1. The most important bugs fixed: * Data Flow algorithm for direct workflows didn’t work correctly in all cases * Workflow pretty logging was broken * 'action_context’ parameter wasn’t

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Nice work Angus ... great idea. Would love to see more of this. -S From: Angus Salkeld [asalk...@mirantis.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 1:32 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [qa] [oslo] Declarative HTTP Tests

2014-10-24 Thread David Kranz
On 10/23/2014 06:27 AM, Chris Dent wrote: I've proposed a spec to Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129669/ for a suite of declarative HTTP tests that would be runnable both in gate check jobs and in local dev environments. There's been some discussion that this may be generally

[openstack-dev] StackTach users?

2014-10-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey y'all! I'm taking a page from Angus and trying to pull together a list of StackTach users. We're moving quickly on our V3 implementation and I'd like to ensure we're addressing the problems you've faced/are facing with older versions. For example, I know initial setup has been a concern

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Cinder] The sorry state of cinder's driver in Glance

2014-10-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/24/2014 03:29 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 09:11 Thu 23 Oct , Flavio Percoco wrote: According to the use-cases explained in this thread (also in the emails from John and Mathieu) this is something that'd be good having. I'm looking forward to seeing the driver completed. As John

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-24 Thread Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis
Le 24/10/2014 13:30, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit : On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis yves-gwenael.bour...@cloudwatt.com mailto:yves-gwenael.bour...@cloudwatt.com wrote: memcache can be distributed (so usable in HA) and has far better performances then db sessions.

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sessions at the summit

2014-10-24 Thread Dugger, Donald D
(I hijacked this thread to save the context but changed the subject so more people might read it.) Looks like we have a scheduler specific session on Thurs. at 11:00AM for 90 min. so we can use that for working out some of the specific scheduler changes we want to do (e.g. the split for sure).

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] periodic jobs for master

2014-10-24 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 22/10/14 12:07, Thierry Carrez wrote: Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] For stable branches, we have so called periodic jobs that are triggered once in a while against the current code in a stable branch, and report to openstack-stable-maint@

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Cinder] The sorry state of cinder's driver in Glance

2014-10-24 Thread John Griffith
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014, at 07:59 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 10/24/2014 03:29 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 09:11 Thu 23 Oct , Flavio Percoco wrote: According to the use-cases explained in this thread (also in the emails from John and Mathieu) this is something that'd be good having. I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][keystone] why is lxml only in test-requirements.txt?

2014-10-24 Thread Xu (Simon) Chen
Great. Thanks Dolph.. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: Great question! For some backstory, the community interest in supporting XML has always been lackluster, so the XML translation middleware has been on a slow road of decline. It's a burden

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi Elena, On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Elena Ezhova eezh...@mirantis.com wrote: Kill the connection using conntrack The problem here is that it is sometimes impossible to tell which connection should be killed. For example there may be two instances running in different

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
Miguel Ángel, On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo mangel...@redhat.com wrote: Temporarily removing this entry doesn't seem like a good solution to me as we can't really know how long do we need to remove this rule to induce the connection to close at both ends (it will

[openstack-dev] [mistral] New screencasts for Mistral 0.1

2014-10-24 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, In addition to MIstral 0.1.1 bugfix release here are the first two videos from the series of screencasts that we started this week aiming to highlight new functionality introduced in Mistral 0.1 released in the end of Sept. MIstral 0.1, part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kaac_AfNow

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?-- Great idea Angus!

2014-10-24 Thread Brad Topol
+100! Angus this is awesome!!! Anyway to get one of these for each project? Thanks, Brad Brad Topol, Ph.D. IBM Distinguished Engineer OpenStack (919) 543-0646 Internet: bto...@us.ibm.com Assistant: Kendra Witherspoon (919) 254-0680 From: Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] making Daneyon Hansen core

2014-10-24 Thread Steven Dake
On 10/23/2014 07:31 AM, Jeff Peeler wrote: On 10/22/2014 11:04 AM, Steven Dake wrote: A few weeks ago in IRC we discussed the criteria for joining the core team in Kolla. I believe Daneyon has met all of these requirements by reviewing patches along with the rest of the core team and providing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Rick Jones
On 10/23/2014 08:57 PM, Brian Haley wrote: On 10/23/14 6:22 AM, Elena Ezhova wrote: Hi! I am working on a bug ping still working once connected even after related security group rule is deleted (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1335375). The gist of the problem is the following: when we

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sessions at the summit

2014-10-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/24/2014 10:39 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: (I hijacked this thread to save the context but changed the subject so more people might read it.) Looks like we have a scheduler specific session on Thurs. at 11:00AM for 90 min. so we can use that for working out some of the specific scheduler

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [qa] [oslo] Declarative HTTP Tests

2014-10-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 24, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: Thanks for the feedback Doug, it's useful. WebTest isn’t quite what you’re talking about, but does provide a way to talk to a WSGI app from within a test suite rather simply. Can

Re: [openstack-dev] FreeBSD host support

2014-10-24 Thread Roman Bogorodskiy
Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bogorodskiy rbogorods...@mirantis.com wrote: ping? Roman Bogorodskiy pgpz_SKT6P9Gy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] making Daneyon Hansen core

2014-10-24 Thread Daneyon Hansen (danehans)
Thanks. I appreciate the opportunity to help the team develop Kolla. Have a great weekend! Regards, Daneyon Hansen, CCIE 9950 Software Engineer Office of the Cloud CTO Mobile: 303-718-0400 Office: 720-875-2936 Email: daneh...@cisco.com On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 10/23/2014 11:16 PM, Angus Salkeld wrote: Thanks for those pointers, we very interested in feedback from operators, but in this case I am talking more about end users not operators (people that actually use our API). Great! There is a working group being formed also for that. I would

[openstack-dev] [Infra][all] Synchronizing local Git and Gerrit repositories

2014-10-24 Thread Ondrej Wisniewski
Hi, I am trying to set up an OpenStack development workflow in our company. We have an internal Git repository mirror of all OpenStack projects we are working on. It is periodically updated from the upstream OpenStack community servers. This is used to share the code among developers.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] periodic jobs for master

2014-10-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Another question to solve is how we disseminate state of those jobs. Do we create a separate mailing list for that? Obviously we should not reuse -dev one, and it's overkill to create one mailing list per interest group. Should we explore other avenues than email for

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-24 Thread racha
Hi Ian, Here some details about integrating the L2-gateway (supporting multiple plugins/MDs and not limited to OVS agent implementation) as a trunking gateway: It's a block, i.e. building block, that has multiple access ports as tenant Neutron network ports (having that block type/uuid as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra][all] Synchronizing local Git and Gerrit repositories

2014-10-24 Thread Ricardo Carrillo Cruz
Hi Ondrej The replication between Gerrit and git mirrors is done by the Gerrit replication mechanism. If you look at this line in the gerrit manifest: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/gerrit/manifests/init.pp#n255 you will see that it deploys a

[openstack-dev] stevedore 1.1.0 released

2014-10-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of stevedore version 1.1.0, the first release in the Kilo series for stevedore. This release includes the following fixes: $ git log --oneline --no-merges 1.0.0..1.1.0 5749d54 Add pbr to dependency list bb43bc4 Updated from global requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-24 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On 2014-10-14 11:35 AM, Adrien Cunin wrote: Hi everyone, Inspired by the travels tips published for the HK summit, the French OpenStack user group wrote a similar wiki page for Paris: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Travel_Tips Can someone add information about pre-paid

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] In tree testing summit prep

2014-10-24 Thread Chris Dent
Since I'm not going to be at summit and since I care about the forthcoming in-tree testing stuff I was asked to write down some thoughts prior to summit so my notions didn't get missed. Since it is a _design_ summit after all I figured I'd take a pretty far out position so we can go from there

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 It would be great to know where to go in the airport and what to ask for for a good 1 - 1.5 week prepaid GSM data plan. Carl On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Mathieu Gagné mga...@iweb.com wrote: On 2014-10-14 11:35 AM, Adrien Cunin wrote: Hi everyone, Inspired by the travels tips

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] periodic jobs for master

2014-10-24 Thread Andrea Frittoli
I also believe we can find ways to make post-merge / periodic checks useful. We need to do that to keep the gate to a sane scale. On 24 October 2014 17:33, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Another question to solve is how we disseminate state of those jobs. Do

[openstack-dev] oslo.concurrency 0.1.0

2014-10-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of oslo.conccurrency 0.1.0, the first development release of the new library containing lockutils and processutils. Documentation for the library is available at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.concurrency/ Please report issues via

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Anne Gentle
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote: On 10/23/2014 11:16 PM, Angus Salkeld wrote: Thanks for those pointers, we very interested in feedback from operators, but in this case I am talking more about end users not operators (people that actually

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote on 10/24/2014 12:32:04 AM: I have felt some grumblings about usability issues with Heat templates/client/etc.. and wanted a way that users could come and give us feedback easily (low barrier). I started an etherpad (https://

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Assigning a distinct ct zone to each port sounds more scalable. This should keep the number of zones per host Agree that zones could be a good solution to this problem. +1 to zone / port for scalability. Though it

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Networking API Create network missing Request parameters

2014-10-24 Thread Manish Godara
Provider network is an extension. The API details should be at [1] To get this to work your plugin should support the 'provider' extension. ML2 supports it [2]. More details can be found at [3] There is also multi-segment provider networks support. Details for that is at [4] as mentioned by

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Notifications as a contract summit prep

2014-10-24 Thread Chris Dent
Since I'm not going to be at summit and since I care about notifications I was asked to write down some thoughts prior to summit so my notions didn't get missed. The notes are at: https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent-rhat/SummitNotifications TL;DR: make sure that adding new stuff

[openstack-dev] [poppy] Proposal to add Malini Kamalambal (malini) as a Core Reviewer

2014-10-24 Thread Amit Gandhi
Hi folks, I’d like to propose adding Malini Kamalambal (malini) as a core reviewer on the Poppy team. She has been contributing regularly since the start of Poppy, and has proven to be a careful reviewer with good judgment. She also brings a lot of insight into Openstack best practices from

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-24 Thread Bob Melander (bmelande)
What scares me a bit about the “let’s find a common solution for both external devices and VMs” approach is the challenge to reach an agreement. I remember a rather long discussion in the dev lounge in HongKong about trunking support that ended up going in all kinds of directions. I work on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Notifications as a contract summit prep

2014-10-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Thanks ... we'll be sure to address your concerns. And there's the list we've compiled here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics (section 4) -S From: Chris Dent [chd...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:45 PM To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Tim Bell
There is a formal structure via the OpenStack user committee and the associated working groups (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee). We have Monday afternoon and all of Thursday in the summit time dedicated to discussions. The specs review process was prepared

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence prototyping

2014-10-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
For persistenting the graph there is also: https://github.com/LogicalDash/gorm#gorm The above sounds interesting... 'Object relational mapper for graphs with in-built revision control.' It then hooks in to the https://networkx.github.io/ library which provides a ton of useful graph

Re: [openstack-dev] [poppy] Proposal to add Malini Kamalambal (malini) as a Core Reviewer

2014-10-24 Thread Obulapathi Challa
She is a very good team member, contributor and reviewer. I vote +1! Thanks and regards, Obul. From: Amit Gandhi amit.gan...@rackspace.commailto:amit.gan...@rackspace.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-24 Thread Tim Bell
-Original Message- From: Carl Baldwin [mailto:c...@ecbaldwin.net] Sent: 24 October 2014 19:05 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit +1 It would be great to know where to go in the airport

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Backup of information about nodes.

2014-10-24 Thread Adam Lawson
Okay and one other question which I must have missed; is it possible to expand Swift capacity through Fuel? I notice Swift is installed on the Controllers but if we need to expand Swift capacity, does that necessarily mean Fuel requires the addition of more Controllers? *Adam Lawson* AQORN,

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sessions at the summit

2014-10-24 Thread Dugger, Donald D
Jay- Your faith in the ability of everyone to get concrete ideas down before the summit is a joy to behold - I'm a little more cynical :-) I think it'll happen in Paris. 1) Gantt specific work. Your list of BPs is great, if we can come to an implementation plan for those on Thurs. I will be

[openstack-dev] What's Up Doc? Oct 24 2014 [training] [api]

2014-10-24 Thread Anne Gentle
Here are some docs highlights for this week. HOT Guides: Gauvain wants a little more time with the HOT Guides before making them publicly available, so those will probably come out after the Summit. Cutting a stable/juno branch for docs: As publicized in this week's meeting notes, our goal is to

Re: [openstack-dev] [poppy] Proposal to add Malini Kamalambal (malini) as a Core Reviewer

2014-10-24 Thread Allan Metts
+1 From: Amit Gandhi [mailto:amit.gan...@rackspace.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:12 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [poppy] Proposal to add Malini Kamalambal (malini) as a Core Reviewer Hi folks, I'd like to propose adding

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-24 Thread Kevin Benton
Hi, Thanks for posting this. I am interested in this use case as well. I didn't find a link to a review for the ML2 driver. Do you have any more details for that available? It seems like not providing L2 connectivity between members of the same Neutron network conflicts with assumptions ML2 will

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-24 Thread Gabriel Hurley
SQLite doesn't introduce any additional dependencies, memcached requires installation of memcached (admittedly it's not hard on most distros, but it *is* yet another step) and in most cases the installation of another python module to interface with it. Memcached might be a good choice for

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Octavia's API becoming spun out LBaaS

2014-10-24 Thread Brandon Logan
With the recent talk about advanced services spinning out of Neutron, and the fact most of the LBaaS community has wanted LBaaS to spin out of Neutron, I wanted to bring up a possibility and gauge interest and opinion on this possibility. Octavia is going to (and has) an API. The current

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Octavia's API becoming spun out LBaaS

2014-10-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
+1 to this, eh! Though it sounds more like you're talking about spinning the Octavia user API out of Octavia to become it's own thing (ie. Openstack LBaaS), and then ensuring a standardized driver interface that vendors (including Octavia) will interface with. It's sort of a half-dozen of one,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] periodic jobs for master

2014-10-24 Thread James E. Blair
Andrea Frittoli andrea.fritt...@gmail.com writes: I also believe we can find ways to make post-merge / periodic checks useful. We need to do that to keep the gate to a sane scale. Yes, we have a plan to do that that we outlined at the infra/QA meetup this summer and described to this list in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][doc]

2014-10-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 24, 2014, at 3:33 AM, Angelo Matarazzo angelo.matara...@dektech.com.au wrote: Hi all, I have a question for you devs. I don't understand the difference between this link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/ project-testing-interface.rst and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-24 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi Jorge, I agree completely with the points you make about the logs. We still feel that metering and logging are two different problems. The ceilometers community has a proposal on how to meter lbaas (see http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ceilometer-specs/specs/juno/lbaas_metering.html)

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-10-23 17:18:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I think we have to actually wait for M, don’t we (K L represents 1 year where J is supported, M is the first release where J is not supported and 2.6 can be fully

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][doc] project testing interface

2014-10-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 10/24/2014 03:03 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: The git link is the reference, and we're working on publishing those, just have to get a URL/home sorted out. In the meantime, yes, you can update the wiki page. Why not delete the wiki altogether? I think stale content on the wiki is damaging us

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][doc] project testing interface

2014-10-24 Thread James E. Blair
Angelo Matarazzo angelo.matara...@dektech.com.au writes: Hi all, I have a question for you devs. I don't understand the difference between this link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/project-testing-interface.rst and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest] [devstack] Generic scripts for Tempest configuration

2014-10-24 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
Hi, Timur. Check out [1]. Boris Pavlovic has been working towards what you want for more than a full release cycle. There are still major issues to be conquered, but having something that gets us part of the way there and can identify what can’t be determined so that the humans have only a

[openstack-dev] doc8 0.5.0 released

2014-10-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
The doc8 team is pleased to announce the release of doc8 0.5.0, the first release in the kilo series for doc8. Documentation for the library is available at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/doc8 This release includes the following changes: $ git log 0.4.3..HEAD --oneline --no-merges 666805d Fix