Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] [Solum] [tempest] Use of pecan test framework in functional tests

2013-12-10 Thread Adrian Otto
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/10/2013 04:10 PM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: Hi, In Solum project we are currently creating tests environments for future test. We split unit tests and functional tests in order to use tempest framework from the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Plan files and resources

2013-12-10 Thread Adrian Otto
Devdatta, On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:37 PM, devdatta kulkarni devdatta.kulka...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi Adrian, Thanks for creating https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-demystified I am really excited to see the examples. Especially cool is how examples 2 and 3 demonstrate using a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
Dolph, Is anyone already focusing on py33 compatibility for python-keystoneclient? Has that effort been scoped? I'd like to judge whether it's reasonable to expect us to patch it up to be compatible in the near term, or relax our expectations. For Solum, we are trying to make all our code py33

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] MySQL Storage Engine

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 12/04/2013 03:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Paul Montgomery's message of 2013-12-04 12:04:06 -0800: TLDR: Should Solum log a warning if operators do not use the InnoDB storage engine with MySQL in Solum's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Unicode strings in Python3

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
Am I interpreting this to mean that WSME is calling unicode()? On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.commailto:gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, I am working on unit tests for Solum as a side effect of new unit tests I found that we use unicode

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solumn] Suggestion about usage of mailing lists

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
Boris, Thanks for expressing your concern about this. For those reading the Solum topic on this list, we really want this to be a community building resource were we are free to discuss ideas and as a primary mechanism for gauging consensus. Applying restrictions to how the list is used by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solumn] Suggestion about usage of mailing lists

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
Boris, On Dec 4, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Boris Pavlovic bpavlo...@mirantis.commailto:bpavlo...@mirantis.com wrote: All, Thank you guys for your opinion. As a conclusion of this thread, I think that I shouldn't hesitate to raise all discussion about Rally in mailing list also.. Right? Yes, if

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Unicode strings in Python3

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
, Adrian Otto wrote: Am I interpreting this to mean that WSME is calling unicode()? On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.commailto:gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, I am working on unit tests for Solum as a side effect of new unit tests I found

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
Clint, On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-12-04 15:44:45 -0800: Jamie, Thanks for the guidance here. I am checking to see if any of our developers might take an interest in helping with the upstream work. At the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Heater Proposal

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: What is the difference between Heater, Cloudify (http://appcatalog.cloudifysource.org/#/?tumblr) Cloudify is a Java based open source cloud management tool from Gigaspaces. Cloudify developers are part of the Solum project

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-04 Thread Adrian Otto
:05:07, Jamie Lennox (jamielen...@redhat.commailto://jamielen...@redhat.com) wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 20:48 -0500, David Stanek wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Jamie, Thanks for the guidance here. I am checking to see if any of our

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] CLI minimal implementation

2013-12-03 Thread Adrian Otto
I did some streamlining of the etherpad on this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MinimalCLI I agree that required arguments should be positional. The only one that is confusing is the --repo argument to the app create command, which will end up being optional in a subsequent release, so I

Re: [openstack-dev] When should things get added to Oslo.Incubator

2013-12-03 Thread Adrian Otto
Jay is right. What we have is probably close enough to what's in Nova to qualify for oslo-incubator. The simplifications seem to me to have general appeal so this code would be more attractive to other projects. One worry I have is that there is still a good deal of magic behavior in this code,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] CLI minimal implementation

2013-12-02 Thread Adrian Otto
Sorry, I changed the link. We originally started with hyphenated noun-verbs but switched to the current proposal upon receipt of advice that it would be more compatible with the next version of the cliff based CLI for OpenStack. If I remember correctly this advice came from Doug Hellman. --

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Definition feedback

2013-11-27 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:23 AM, Tom Deckers (tdeckers) tdeck...@cisco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Adrian Otto [mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 0:28 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Definition feedback

2013-11-27 Thread Adrian Otto
Jay, On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2013 06:23 AM, Tom Deckers (tdeckers) wrote: I understand the an Assembly can be a larger group of components. However, those together exist to provide a capability which we want to capture in some catalog so

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Configuration options placement

2013-11-27 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, I am working on the user-authentication BP implementation. I need to introduce a new configuration option for enable or disable keystone authentication for incoming request. I am looking for a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] API worker architecture

2013-11-27 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 27, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Murali Allada murali.all...@rackspace.commailto:murali.all...@rackspace.com wrote: No, I was Infact thinking about making all responses synchronous to keep things simple in the beginning. Mostly because I can't think of any use case that requires asynchronous

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] [Security]

2013-11-27 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 27, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Nathan Kinder nkin...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/27/2013 08:58 AM, Paul Montgomery wrote: I created some relatively high level security best practices that I thought would apply to Solum. I don't think it is ever too early to get mindshare around security so that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Definition feedback

2013-11-27 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 27, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2013 02:03 PM, Adrian Otto wrote: Jay, On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2013 06:23 AM, Tom Deckers (tdeckers) wrote: I understand the an Assembly can be a larger group

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Definition feedback

2013-11-26 Thread Adrian Otto
Tom, On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Tom Deckers (tdeckers) tdeck...@cisco.com wrote: Hi All, Few comments on the Definitions blueprint [1]: 1. I'd propose to alter the term 'Application' to either 'Application Package' or 'Package'. Application isn't very descriptive and can be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Definition feedback

2013-11-26 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Clayton Coleman ccole...@redhat.com wrote: On Nov 26, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Tom, On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Tom Deckers (tdeckers) tdeck...@cisco.com wrote: Hi All, Few comments on the Definitions

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] git-Integration working group

2013-11-24 Thread Adrian Otto
I think I mentioned this before, but the working group has not made any binding decisions. We already identified Zuul and Nodepool as tools to learn more about. It's not clear to us yet if it makes sense for the simple use case. That will be one of the things we discuss. We do know that Solum

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-23 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 23, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 24 November 2013 05:42, Clayton Coleman ccole...@redhat.com wrote: Containers will work fine in diskimage-builder. One only needs to hack in the ability to save in the container image format rather than qcow2.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Command Line Interface for Solum

2013-11-22 Thread Adrian Otto
. Additional commands can be added as we add support for additional features in subsequent releases. Adrian On Nov 15, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.commailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Adrian Otto adrian.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-22 Thread Adrian Otto
The breakout meeting schedule poll is published here (dates will be published here once they are selected): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/BreakoutMeetings#Language_Pack_Working_Group_Series If you would like to join the working group, please: 1) Subscribe to the lang-pack blueprint:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] git-Integration working group

2013-11-22 Thread Adrian Otto
Monty, On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/22/2013 05:37 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: Hello all, I would like to kickoff the Git integration discussion. Goal of this subgroup is to go through the git-integration blueprint [1] and break it up into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] code review, 2 +2s?

2013-11-18 Thread Adrian Otto
+2 Yes, thanks for raising that concern. I did approve a few patches before we had other core reviewers configured, and I think I also may have also approved a .gitignore patch after. I will strictly conform to our two +2 workflow going forward, as I agree that merge policy is a good one. --

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] SFO Design Workshop

2013-11-18 Thread Adrian Otto
No. Registration is for in person attendance only. -- Adrian Original message From: Rajdeep Dua Date:11/18/2013 5:39 AM (GMT-08:00) To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] SFO Design Workshop Do we need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] SFO Design Workshop

2013-11-18 Thread Adrian Otto
Is there easy parking at the rackspace office? On Nov 18, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.commailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: No. Registration is for in person attendance only. -- Adrian Original message From: Rajdeep Dua Date:11/18/2013 5:39 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:06 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Wow, lots of different opinions! let's try to summarize: Arguments in favor of splitting openstack-dev / stackforge-dev * People can easily filter out all non-openstack discussions * Traffic would drop by about 25% *

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum/Heat] Is Solum really necessary?

2013-11-14 Thread Adrian Otto
Jay, Thanks for the great question. They really are different. Heat's mission (correct me if there is a more recent one) is: To explicitly model the relationships between OpenStack resources of all kinds; and to harness those models, expressed in forms accessible to both humans and machines,

[openstack-dev] [Solum] Initial Core Reviewers

2013-11-14 Thread Adrian Otto
established and reviews flowing smoothly over the next few months. Adrian Otto (adrian_otto) - Solum PTL (Principal Architect, Rackspace) Monty Taylor (mordred) - OpenStack Technical Committee, OpenStack Board of Directors (Distinguished Technologist, HP) Robert Collins (lifeless) - TripleO PTL

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Initial Core Reviewers

2013-11-14 Thread Adrian Otto
Rob, Yes you both certainly are! Sorry for the omission! Cheers, Adrian On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 15 November 2013 10:53, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Adrian Otto (adrian_otto) - Solum PTL (Principal Architect

[openstack-dev] [Solum] API Deep Dive today @2100 UTC

2013-11-13 Thread Adrian Otto
Team, This is a reminder that we will conduct our API deep dive discussion on IRC in #solum at 2100 UTC today (1:00 PM US/Pacific). Details: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/BreakoutMeetings Thanks, Adrian ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Gated Source Code Flow (was: Weekly Team Meeting)

2013-11-13 Thread Adrian Otto
Clayton, On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Clayton Coleman ccole...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Hello, Solum meets Tuesdays at 1600 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt (formerly in #solum) Note: Due to the Nov 3rd change in Daylight Savings Time, this now happens at 08:00

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Command Line Interface for Solum

2013-11-13 Thread Adrian Otto
Doug, On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.commailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Noorul Islam K M noo...@noorul.commailto:noo...@noorul.com wrote: Hello all, I registered a new blueprint [1] for command line client

[openstack-dev] Solum Weekly Meeting

2013-11-12 Thread Adrian Otto
Hello, Solum meets Tuesdays at 1600 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt (formerly in #solum) Note: Due to the Nov 3rd change in Daylight Savings Time, this now happens at 08:00 US/Pacific (starts in about 50 minutes from now) Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Regards, Adrian

[openstack-dev] [Solum] Weekly Team Meeting

2013-11-12 Thread Adrian Otto
Hello, Solum meets Tuesdays at 1600 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt (formerly in #solum) Note: Due to the Nov 3rd change in Daylight Savings Time, this now happens at 08:00 US/Pacific (starts in about 45 minutes from now) Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Regards, Adrian

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Choice of API infrastructure

2013-11-07 Thread Adrian Otto
Solum Team, First of all I wanted to say that I have been thinking a lot about this thread, and have been seeking input from a number of you who attended the Summit this week. I do *not* see this decision as a critical one, because if something really mattered a ton we could rip our one

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum]: Welcome to the community site for Solum !!

2013-11-06 Thread Adrian Otto
Brent, Thank you for putting together such a clear and thoughtful post. Your article was quoted and included on the Solum.io community site, and has inspired other new contributors as well. Viewpoints like yours help illustrate that this effort is really about working together to address

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum]: Welcome to the community site for Solum !!

2013-11-04 Thread Adrian Otto
Clint, The rules about use of the OpenStack brand are clear, and Solum is not allowed to use it. We are a part of the OpenStack ecosystem, but the OpenStack brand (trademark/logo) is reserved for those projects that are Integrated or Core. At this point what we need is a good collaboration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Logging Blueprint Approval

2013-11-03 Thread Adrian Otto
Russell, On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/02/2013 01:42 AM, Adrian Otto wrote: Team, We have a blueprint for logging architecture within Solum, which is an important feature to aid in debugging at runtime: https://blueprints.launchpad.net

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Choice of API infrastructure

2013-11-03 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 3, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/02/2013 11:26 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 11/02/2013 11:54 AM, Adrian Otto wrote: Noorul, I agree that key decisions should be tracked in blueprints. This is the one for this decision which was made in our 2013-10-18

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Create a source repo for the API specification?

2013-11-02 Thread Adrian Otto
Jay, On Nov 2, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, One of the most important aspects in the early stages of Solum development will be the consensus building and stabilization of the Solum API specification. A solid API spec aid in the speeding up the pace of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Call for participation: Breakout meeting for API deep-dive

2013-11-02 Thread Adrian Otto
Team, The dates have been chosen based on your feedback: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/BreakoutMeetings#Solum_API_Deep_Dive Please mark your calendars for 2100 UTC on 2013-11-13 and 2013-11-15. We will meet in #solum. Thanks, Adrian On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Adrian Otto adrian.o

[openstack-dev] [Solum] Logging Blueprint Approval

2013-11-01 Thread Adrian Otto
Team, We have a blueprint for logging architecture within Solum, which is an important feature to aid in debugging at runtime: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/logging The team voted for a lightweight governance style, and because we are planning to skip our upcoming meeting doe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Tracking technology choices using blue prints

2013-11-01 Thread Adrian Otto
Noorul, I agree that key decisions should be tracked in blueprints. This is the one for this decision which was made in our 2013-10-18 public meeting. Jay's submission is consistent with the direction indicated by the team. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/rest-api-base Transcript

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Dissecting the very first review

2013-11-01 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Noorul Islam K M noo...@noorul.commailto:noo...@noorul.com wrote: Clark Boylan clark.boy...@gmail.commailto:clark.boy...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Noorul Islam K M noo...@noorul.commailto:noo...@noorul.com wrote: Now we have the first

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] An early peek into the Solum.io website

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
be a special snowflake here. Sent from my really tiny device... On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Noorul, Yes, it uses WordPress. The community website will be used primarily as a rally point for attracting new contributors. It will have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Separation of concerns for 0.1 git deploy blueprint

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Robert, We would be interested in exploring your use case for CD, and help you judge what would be the best fit. I know that Monty Taylor has identified some parts of openstack-infra that we could potentially

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Call for participation: Breakout meeting for API deep-dive

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
. Thanks, Adrian On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Team, Those of us interested in participating in a series of API deep-dive design discussions, are encouraged to provide date/time scheduling feedback at the link shown on our Breakout Meetings wiki

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] HOLD THE DATES: Design Workshop @SFO

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
Jay, It is November 19 and 20. Looks like because it was sent as a calendar invite that the notes were scrubbed. Here is the text: Workshop sessions Nov 19 Tuesday 9:30 am - 5 pm Nov 20 Wednesday 9:30 am - 3:00 pm (we break early on Wednesday if some of us want to catch an evening return

[openstack-dev] [Solum] Stackforge Repo Ready

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
Team, Our StackForge code repo is open, so you may begin submitting code for review. For those new to the process, I made a will page with links to the repo and information about how to contribute: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/Contributing Regards, Adrian

[openstack-dev] [Solum] Solum transitioned to openstack-dev

2013-10-30 Thread Adrian Otto
Hi, The Solum team has agreed[1] to use openstack-dev, and has closed its project-specific mailing list. We look forward to discussing ongoing design and development efforts here. We are also transitioning to an openstack meeting channel for subsequent public meetings. Regards, Adrian Otto

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Solum transitioned to openstack-dev

2013-10-30 Thread Adrian Otto
the OpenStack brand. Can you help adjust this for us? Thanks, Adrian On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote: On 10/30/2013 12:08 PM, Adrian Otto wrote: The Solum team has agreed[1] to use openstack-dev, and has closed its project-specific mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Separation of concerns for 0.1 git deploy blueprint

2013-10-30 Thread Adrian Otto
Clayton, Thanks for adding the diagram illustrating the flow. I expect that respond to client may not be a synchronous flow, rather that if creation of a repo takes a while that the API may return a 202 Accepted, and the client can poll a status attribute to determine completion and learn the

[openstack-dev] [Solum] Call for participation: Breakout meeting for API deep-dive

2013-10-30 Thread Adrian Otto
Team, Those of us interested in participating in a series of API deep-dive design discussions, are encouraged to provide date/time scheduling feedback at the link shown on our Breakout Meetings wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/BreakoutMeetings We look forward to your input to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Separation of concerns for 0.1 git deploy blueprint

2013-10-30 Thread Adrian Otto
at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/FeatureBlueprints/GitIntegration#Flow_Boundaries I'm having a little trouble mapping that into your design. I'm wondering if you can expand on how that hangs together? Thanks! Rob On 31 October 2013 14:01, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] An early peek into the Solum.io website

2013-10-30 Thread Adrian Otto
Noorul, Yes, it uses WordPress. The community website will be used primarily as a rally point for attracting new contributors. It will have a blog feature which is currently being configured so the project contributors can publish related content there. We expect to use this site to attract

Re: [openstack-dev] Announcing Project Solum

2013-10-24 Thread Adrian Otto
Thomas and Russell, On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/24/2013 08:51 AM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Hi Adrian, really intersting! I wonder what the relation to all the software orchestration in Heat discussions is that have been going on for a while

[openstack-dev] Announcing Project Solum

2013-10-23 Thread Adrian Otto
this exciting new addition to the OpenStack ecosystem. Project Wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum Lauchpad Project https://launchpad.net/solum IRC Public IRC meetings are held on Tuesdays 1600 UTC irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/solum Thanks, Adrian Otto

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How the autoscale API should control scaling in Heat

2013-09-10 Thread Adrian Otto
I have a different point of view. First I will offer some assertions: A-1) We need to keep it simple. A-1.1) Systems that are hard to comprehend are hard to debug, and that's bad. A-1.2) Complex systems tend to be much more brittle than simple ones. A-2) Scale-up operations need

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Multi region support for Heat

2013-07-23 Thread Adrian Otto
Clint, On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-07-22 21:43:05 -0700: On 07/23/2013 10:46 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 22/07/13 16:52 +0200, Bartosz Górski wrote: Hi folks, I would like to start a discussion about the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Long-term, how do we make heat image/flavor name agnostic?

2013-07-18 Thread Adrian Otto
- perhaps volumes and other things Mappings is one of the high level concepts in CFN that I think can be completely eliminated with auto-discovery. Respectfully, Adrian Otto ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Does it make sense to have a resource-create API?

2013-06-18 Thread Adrian Otto
Angus, I'm glad you are asking good questions. I have additional input for you to consider below. On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/06/13 23:32 +, Adrian Otto wrote: Yes. I think having a POST method in the API makes perfect sense. Assuming we

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