Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] Roadmap towards heterogenous hardware support

2014-02-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jaromir Coufal's message of 2014-02-02 11:19:25 -0800: On 2014/30/01 23:33, Devananda van der Veen wrote: I was responding based on Treat similar hardware configuration as equal. When there is a very minor difference in hardware (eg, 1TB vs 1.1TB disks), enrolling them with

[openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Rolling updates spec re-written. RFC

2014-02-03 Thread Clint Byrum
So, I wrote the original rolling updates spec about a year ago, and the time has come to get serious about implementation. I went through it and basically rewrote the entire thing to reflect the knowledge I have gained from a year of working with Heat. Any and all comments are welcome. I intend

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Rolling updates spec re-written. RFC

2014-02-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-02-03 10:47:06 -0800: Quick thoughts: - I'd like to be able to express a minimum service percentage: e.g. I know I need 80% of my capacity available at anyone time, so an additional constraint to the unit counts, is to stay below 20% down at a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Rolling updates spec re-written. RFC

2014-02-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Herve's message of 2014-02-03 12:46:05 -0800: So, I wrote the original rolling updates spec about a year ago, and the time has come to get serious about implementation. I went through it and basically rewrote the entire thing to reflect the knowledge I have gained from

Re: [openstack-dev] Ugly Hack to deal with multiple versions

2014-02-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jesse Noller's message of 2014-02-04 11:55:57 -0800: On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/05/2014 01:50 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/05/2014 01:09 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Rolling updates spec re-written. RFC

2014-02-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-02-04 16:14:09 -0800: On 03/02/14 17:09, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Herve's message of 2014-02-03 12:46:05 -0800: So, I wrote the original rolling updates spec about a year ago, and the time has come to get serious about

Re: [openstack-dev] why do we put a license in every file?

2014-02-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Greg Hill's message of 2014-02-05 08:29:20 -0800: I'm new, so I'm sure there's some history I'm missing, but I find it bizarre that we have to put the same license into every single file of source code in our projects. In my past experience, a single LICENSE file at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Rolling updates spec re-written. RFC

2014-02-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2014-02-05 07:35:37 -0800: On 02/04/2014 06:34 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 5 February 2014 13:14, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: That's not a great example, because one DB server depends on the other, forcing them into updating serially

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery of peer instances through metadata service

2014-02-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2014-02-05 14:57:33 -0800: On 01/27/2014 11:02 AM, Day, Phil wrote: -Original Message- From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: 24 January 2014 21:09 To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery of peer instances through metadata service

2014-02-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Day, Phil's message of 2014-01-27 03:02:17 -0800: -Original Message- From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: 24 January 2014 21:09 To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery of peer instances through metadata service

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery of peer instances through metadata service

2014-02-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)'s message of 2014-01-27 04:14:44 -0800: Hi Justin, My though process is to go back to basics. To perform discovery there is no getting away from the fact that you have to start with a well-known address that your peers can access on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Sofware Config progress [for appliances]

2014-02-06 Thread Clint Byrum
, Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/14/2014 09:27 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Prasad Vellanki's message of 2014-01-14 18:41:46 -0800: Steve I did not mean to have custom solution at all. In fact that would be terrible. I think Heat model of software config and deployment

Re: [openstack-dev] Asynchrounous programming: replace eventlet with asyncio

2014-02-06 Thread Clint Byrum
All due respect to Zane who created the scheduler. We simply could not do what we do without it (and I think one of the first things I asked for was parallel create ;). IMO it is the single most confusing thing in Heat whenever one has to deal with it. If we could stick to a threading model

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Nominate Jason Dunsmore for heat-core

2014-02-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Curse you Randall for taking first post! +1 Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2014-02-09 14:47:39 -0800: Very +1 Original message From: Steve Baker Date:02/09/2014 4:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [heat] Nominate

[openstack-dev] [Heat] in-instance update hooks

2014-02-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi, so in the previous thread about rolling updates it became clear that having in-instance control over updates is a more fundamental idea than I had previously believed. During an update, Heat does things to servers that may interrupt the server's purpose, and that may cause it to fail

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] in-instance update hooks

2014-02-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2014-02-11 00:38:53 -0800: Hi Clint, thanks for writing this down. This is a really interesting use case and feature, also in relation to what was recently discussed on rolling updates. I have a couple of thoughts and questions: 1) The overall

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] in-instance update hooks

2014-02-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2014-02-11 07:19:19 -0800: On 02/10/2014 10:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Hi, so in the previous thread about rolling updates it became clear that having in-instance control over updates is a more fundamental idea than I had previously believed. During

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel][TripleO] NIC bonding for OpenStack

2014-02-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Andrey Danin's message of 2014-02-11 08:42:46 -0800: Hi Openstackers, We are working on link aggregation support in Fuel. We wonder what are the most desirable types of bonding now in datacenters. We had some issues (see below) with OVS bond in LACP mode, and it turned out that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] in-instance update hooks

2014-02-11 Thread Clint Byrum
be a long long time. * Destroy or update the node Thanks, Kevin From: Clint Byrum [cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:13 AM To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] in-instance update hooks Excerpts from Steven Dake's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] in-instance update hooks

2014-02-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-02-12 05:18:31 -0800: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Hi, so in the previous thread about rolling updates it became clear that having in-instance control over updates is a more fundamental idea than I had

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Question about Zuul's role in Solum

2014-02-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Julien Vey's message of 2014-02-13 05:18:19 -0800: Hi, I have some concerns about using Zuul in Solum I agree gating is a great feature but it is not useful for every project and as Adrian said, not understood by everyone. I think many Solum users, and PaaS users in general,

Re: [openstack-dev] bad default values in conf files

2014-02-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from David Kranz's message of 2014-02-13 06:38:52 -0800: I was recently bitten by a case where some defaults in keystone.conf were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were not providing better values https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064061. Just

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] consistency vs packages in TripleO

2014-02-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-02-13 13:27:20 -0800: So progressing with the 'and folk that want to use packages can' arc, we're running into some friction. I've copied -operators in on this because its very relevant IMO to operators :) So far: - some packages use

Re: [openstack-dev] bad default values in conf files

2014-02-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-02-13 07:19:18 -0800: * Identify settings that need to scale with the size of the underlying VM or host capabilities, and provide patches to the configuration file comments that clearly indicate a recommended scaling factor. Remember that folks writing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [TripleO] consistency vs packages in TripleO

2014-02-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2014-02-15 06:05:30 -0800: - Original Message - From: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Cc: openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] consistency vs packages in TripleO

2014-02-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-02-15 13:02:36 -0800: On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 15 February 2014 08:42, Dan Prince dpri...@redhat.com wrote: Option B is we make our job easy by strong arming everyone into the same

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] Need a new DSL for Murano

2014-02-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexander Tivelkov's message of 2014-02-14 18:17:10 -0800: Hi folks, Murano matures, and we are getting more and more feedback from our early adopters. The overall reception is very positive, but at the same time there are some complaints as well. By now the most significant

[openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Better handling of lists in Heat - a proposal to add a map function

2014-02-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Since picking up Heat and trying to think about how to express clusters of things, I've been troubled by how poorly the CFN language supports using lists. There has always been the Fn::Select function for dereferencing arrays and maps, and recently we added a nice enhancement to HOT to allow

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Imre Farkas's message of 2014-02-20 15:24:17 +: On 02/20/2014 03:57 PM, Tomas Sedovic wrote: On 20/02/14 15:41, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 20/02/14 15:00, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Are we even sure we need to store the passwords in the first place? All this encryption

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Heat use as a standalone component for Cloud Managment over multi IAAS

2014-02-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexander Tivelkov's message of 2014-02-28 03:52:52 -0800: Hi Charles, If you are looking for the analogues of Juju in OpenStack, you probably may take a look at Murano Project [1]. It is an application catalog backed with a powerful workflow execution engine, which is built on

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-02-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-02-28 14:26:26 -0800: On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 13:10 -0800, Mark Washenberger wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Henry Nash hen...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Hi Mark, So we would not modify any existing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-03-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-03-01 14:26:57 -0800: On 1 March 2014 13:28, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: +1. A Keystone record belongs to Keystone, and it should have a Keystone ID. External records that are linked should be linked separately. It may

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-03-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-03-03 23:06:58 -0800: On 03/03/2014 02:32 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 11:09 -0800, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Mar 3, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 12:05 -0800, Morgan Fainberg wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat]Policy on upgades required config changes

2014-03-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-03-04 09:39:21 -0800: Hi all, As some of you know, I've been working on the instance-users blueprint[1]. This blueprint implementation requires three new items to be added to the heat.conf, or some resources (those which create keystone users)

[openstack-dev] [Heat] [Keystone] Where are the strings in the keystone API's defined?

2014-03-10 Thread Clint Byrum
While looking into this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1290274 I was trying to find out why the original developers felt that tenant_ids should be a 'varchar(256)'. In addition to moving from a regular varchar into a text field, varchar(256) in MySQL will become a tinytext which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Keystone] Where are the strings in the keystone API's defined?

2014-03-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-03-10 12:43:52 -0700: For posterity, I assume this thread is related to: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/028125.html Anyway, keystone itself has issued 36-char tenant ID's in the past (diablo, I believe, if

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat]Policy on upgades required config changes

2014-03-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-03-05 04:24:51 -0800: On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:06:16PM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-03-04 09:39:21 -0800: Hi all, As some of you know, I've been working on the instance-users blueprint[1

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-cloud-config ssh access to cloud

2014-03-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-03-11 07:50:58 -0700: On 03/11/2014 05:25 AM, Dmitry Mescheryakov wrote: For what it's worth in Sahara (former Savanna) we inject the second key by userdata. I.e. we add echo ${public_key} ${user_home}/.ssh/authorized_keys to the other stuff

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-cloud-config ssh access to cloud

2014-03-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jiří Stránský's message of 2014-03-10 06:10:46 -0700: On 7.3.2014 14:50, Imre Farkas wrote: On 03/07/2014 10:30 AM, Jiří Stránský wrote: Hi, there's one step in cloud initialization that is performed over SSH -- calling keystone-manage pki_setup. Here's the relevant code

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] MySQL 5.6 disk-image-builder element

2014-03-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Lowery, Mathew's message of 2014-03-11 10:33:12 -0700: My colleague, Ranjitha Vemula, just submitted a trove-integration patch set to add a MySQL 5.6 disk-image-builder element. Two major hurdles were faced with this patch set. snip In my understanding, D.I.B. elements should

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Need to revert Don't enable all stores by default

2014-03-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi. I asked in #openstack-glance a few times today but got no response, so sorry for the list spam. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79710/ This change introduces a backward incompatible change to defaults with Havana. If a user has chosen to configure swift, but did not add swift to the

Re: [openstack-dev] UTF-8 required charset/encoding for openstack database?

2014-03-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-03-10 13:02:47 -0700: On 2014-03-10 12:24, Chris Friesen wrote: Hi, I'm using havana and recent we ran into an issue with heat related to character sets. In heat/db/sqlalchemy/api.py in user_creds_get() we call _decrypt() on an encrypted

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Manual scheduling nodes in maintenance mode

2014-03-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Jones's message of 2014-03-12 13:07:21 -0700: Hey I wanted to throw out an idea that came to me while I was working on diagnosing some hardware issues in the Tripleo CD rack at the sprint last week. Specifically, if a particular node has been dropped from automatic

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][db][performance] Proposal: Get rid of soft deletion (step by step)

2014-03-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-03-12 10:58:36 -0700: On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 17:35 +, Tim Bell wrote: And if the same mistake is done for a cinder volume or a trove database ? Snapshots and backups? and bears, oh my! +1, whether it is large data on a volume or saved state in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][db][performance] Proposal: Get rid of soft deletion (step by step)

2014-03-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Bell's message of 2014-03-12 11:02:25 -0700: If you want to archive images per-say, on deletion just export it to a 'backup tape' (for example) and store enough of the metadata on that 'tape' to re-insert it if this is really desired and then delete it from the

Re: [openstack-dev] [db][all] (Proposal) Restorable Delayed deletion of OS Resources

2014-03-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2014-03-13 16:16:50 -0700: Seems ok to me, and likely a good start, although I'm still not very comfortable with the effects of soft_deletion (unless its done by admins only), to me it complicates scheduling (can u schedule to something that has been

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][db][performance] Proposal: Get rid of soft deletion (step by step)

2014-03-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Bell's message of 2014-03-14 13:54:32 -0700: I think we need to split the scenarios and focus on the end user experience with the cloud a few come to my mind from the CERN experience (but this may not be all): 1. Accidental deletion of an object (including meta

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-cloud-config ssh access to cloud

2014-03-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-03-12 06:19:47 -0700: On 03/11/2014 01:20 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-03-11 07:50:58 -0700: On 03/11/2014 05:25 AM, Dmitry Mescheryakov wrote: For what it's worth in Sahara (former Savanna) we inject the second

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Actions design BP

2014-03-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Renat Akhmerov's message of 2014-03-13 01:55:46 -0700: Joshua, Thanks for your interest and feedback. I believe you were able to deliver your message already, we definitely hear you. So no need to the same stuff again and again ;) As I promised before, we are now

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Actions design BP

2014-03-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Renat Akhmerov's message of 2014-03-17 07:35:02 -0700: On 16 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: From my perspective, as somebody who is considering Mistral for some important things, the fact that the taskflow people are not aligned with the Mistral

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Stack breakpoint

2014-03-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Ton, could you repost this as a new thread? It has very little to do with the referenced thread. Excerpts from Ton Ngo's message of 2014-03-17 12:10:33 -0700: I would like to revisit with more details an idea that was mentioned in the last design summit and hopefully get some feedback. The

Re: [openstack-dev] UTF-8 required charset/encoding for openstack database?

2014-03-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2014-03-18 15:08:36 -0700: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 2014-03-10 12:24, Chris Friesen wrote: Hi, I'm using havana and recent we ran into an issue with heat related to character sets. In

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness

2014-03-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sullivan, Jon Paul's message of 2014-03-19 09:26:44 -0700: From: James Slagle [mailto:james.sla...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2014 19:58 Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness Our current meeting time is Tuesdays at 19:00 UTC.

Re: [openstack-dev] Updating libvirt in gate jobs

2014-03-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-03-18 17:15:59 -0700: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/18/2014 10:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 07:50:15AM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Hi Team, We have 2 choices

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-03-19 03:01:19 -0700: FWIW, I think there's a value on having an sqlalchemy driver. It's helpful for newcomers, it integrates perfectly with the gate and I don't want to impose other folks what they should or shouldn't use in production. Marconi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi][TC] Withdraw graduation request

2014-03-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Jay said it all. I look forward to Marconi's graduation day and I see good things. :) Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-03-20 16:18:37 -0700: This is a very mature stance and well-written email. Thanks, Flavio and all of the Marconi team for having thick skin and responding to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ozgur Akan's message of 2014-03-20 14:18:27 -0700: Hi, Marconi manages its own sharding (doesn't rely on mongoDB's own sharding) in order to have more control on where data is stored. Sharding is done based on project_id + queue_id and stored in a catalog. Since Marconi

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] test environment requirements

2014-03-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-03-21 09:38:00 -0700: On 2014-03-21 10:57, Derek Higgins wrote: On 14/03/14 20:16, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2014-03-13 11:12, James Slagle wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: So we already have

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] test environment requirements

2014-03-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2014-03-21 09:25:42 -0700: - Original Message - From: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 5:51:30 AM Subject: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] test environment requirements

2014-03-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-03-13 02:51:30 -0700: So we already have pretty high requirements - its basically a 16G workstation as minimum. Specifically to test the full story: - a seed VM - an undercloud VM (bm deploy infra) - 1 overcloud control VM - 2 overcloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][reviews] We're falling behind

2014-03-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-03-25 13:17:29 -0700: TripleO has just seen an influx of new contributors. \o/. Flip side - we're now slipping on reviews /o\. In the meeting today we had basically two answers: more cores, and more work by cores. We're slipping by 2 reviews

Re: [openstack-dev] [All][Keystone] Deprecation of the v2 API

2014-03-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-03-25 19:01:17 -0700: On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: We discussed the deprecation of the v2 keystone API in the cross-project meeting today [1]. This thread is to recap and bring that discussion to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] proxying SSL traffic for API requests

2014-03-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Jones's message of 2014-03-26 06:58:59 -0700: Hi We don't have a strong attachment to stunnel though, I quickly dropped it in front of our CI/CD undercloud and Rob wrote the element so we could repeat the deployment. In the fullness of time I would expect there to

[openstack-dev] [all] sample config files should be ignored in git...

2014-03-26 Thread Clint Byrum
This is an issue that affects all of our git repos. If you are using oslo.config, you will likely also be using the sample config generator. However, for some reason we are all checking this generated file in. This makes no sense, as we humans are not editting it, and it often picks up config

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] sample config files should be ignored in git...

2014-03-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anne Gentle's message of 2014-03-26 11:49:29 -0700: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: This is an issue that affects all of our git repos. If you are using oslo.config, you will likely also be using the sample config generator. However

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] sample config files should be ignored in git...

2014-03-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-03-26 11:27:58 -0700: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:10:04AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: This is an issue that affects all of our git repos. If you are using oslo.config, you will likely also be using the sample config generator. However, for some

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] sample config files should be ignored in git...

2014-03-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-03-27 13:11:57 -0700: On 03/27/2014 02:54 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Dirk Müller d...@dmllr.de mailto:d...@dmllr.de wrote: Hi, When I was an operator, I regularly referred to the sample config

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] proxying SSL traffic for API requests

2014-03-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nathan Kinder's message of 2014-03-27 13:25:02 -0700: On 03/26/2014 09:51 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Chris Jones's message of 2014-03-26 06:58:59 -0700: Hi We don't have a strong attachment to stunnel though, I quickly dropped it in front of our CI/CD undercloud

Re: [openstack-dev] PGP keysigning party for Juno summit in Atlanta?

2014-03-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2014-03-29 23:32:55 -0700: On 03/30/2014 10:00 AM, Mark Atwood wrote: Hi! Are there plans for a PGP keysigning party at the Juno Summit in Atlanta, similar to the one at the Icehouse summit in Hong Kong? Inspired by the URL at

Re: [openstack-dev] PGP keysigning party for Juno summit in Atlanta?

2014-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2014-03-31 13:03:28 -0700: On 2014-03-31 10:55:06 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: No miracle here... All slots are pretty full as expected. I think our best bet is still the 30-min morning break on Wednesday or Thursday at 10:30am. Would

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] [macaroni] Proposal: change name of Marconi to Macaroni

2014-04-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-04-01 10:19:12 -0700: Hello All, As OpenStack Marconi grows, I think it's time we addressed the question on everyone's mind: why isn't the project called OpenStack Macaroni? There are several compelling reasons to change Marconi's name to

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] metadata for a HOT

2014-04-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2014-04-03 08:36:20 -0700: From: Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List \(not for usage questions\) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 03/04/2014 07:10 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] metadata for a

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] metadata for a HOT

2014-04-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-04-02 22:10:21 -0700: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 04/02/2014 05:36:43 PM: I think that if you're going to propose a new feature, you should at least give us a clue who you think is going to use it and what for ;) I was not eager

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2014-04-04 02:54:05 -0700: Hi Steve, Thomas I'm glad the discussion is so constructive! If we add type interfaces to HOT this may do the job. Applications in AppCatalog need to be portable across OpenStack clouds. Thus if we use some globally-unique

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Agent]

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vladimir Kozhukalov's message of 2014-04-04 05:19:41 -0700: Hello, everyone, I'd like to involve more people to express their opinions about the way how we are going to run Ironic-python-agent. I mean should we run it with root privileges or not. From the very beginning

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Heat] TripleO Heat Templates and merge.py

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-04-04 08:47:46 -0700: Hi All, I was wondering if the time has come to document what exactly are we doing with tripleo-heat-templates and merge.py[1], figure out what needs to happen to move away and raise the necessary blueprints on Heat and

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-04-03 04:02:20 -0700: Getting back in the swing of things... Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Problems with Heat software configurations and KeystoneV2

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Elder's message of 2014-04-04 07:16:55 -0700: Opened in Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1302624 I still have concerns though about the design approach of creating a new project for every stack and new users for every resource. If I provision 1000

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Problems with Heat software configurations and KeystoneV2

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-04-04 18:48:40 -0700: On 04/04/2014 02:46 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Michael Elder's message of 2014-04-04 07:16:55 -0700: Opened in Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1302624 I still have concerns though about the design

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows

2013-10-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2013-10-08 13:53:45 -0700: Hello, I’m one of the engineer working on Murano project. Recently we started a discussion about Murano and Heat Software orchestration and I want to continue this discussion with more technical details. In our project we do

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows

2013-10-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2013-10-09 08:37:36 -0700: Hi, In addition I want to add couple words about flexibility and debugging capabilities. I believe it is quite important for HOT template engine to control all aspects of deployment process execution including

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows

2013-10-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-10 15:27:48 -0700: On 10/10/13 11:59 +0400, Stan Lagun wrote: This rises number of questions: 1. What about conditional dependencies? Like config3 depends on config1 AND config2 OR config3. We have the AND, but not an OR. To depend on two

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows

2013-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2013-10-11 07:22:37 -0700: Hello, Thanks Angus, Clint, I've got your design. It seems that Murano can built on top of that. With service metadata knowledge Murano can generate HOT templates with set of interdependent configs. Here is what will be

[openstack-dev] Thanks for fixing my patch

2013-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Recently in the TripleO meeting we identified situations where we need to make it very clear that it is ok to pick up somebody else's patch and finish it. We are broadly distributed, time-zone-wise, and I know other teams working on OpenStack projects have the same situation. So when one of us

Re: [openstack-dev] baremetal nova boot issue

2013-10-14 Thread Clint Byrum
intel based baremetal nodes. And for testing am simulating using VMs are baremetals as well. Please let me know. Thanks Ravi On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Ravikanth Samprathi's message of 2013-10-14 11:15:15 -0700: Thank you for your

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Renat Akhmerov's message of 2013-10-14 12:40:28 -0700: Hi OpenStackers, I am proud to announce the official launch of the Mistral project. At Mirantis we have a team to start contributing to the project right away. We invite anybody interested in task service state

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-10-16 06:16:33 -0700: On 16/10/13 00:48, Steve Baker wrote: I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some feedback:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Blueprint for retry function with idenpotency in Heat

2013-10-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mitsuru Kanabuchi's message of 2013-10-16 04:47:08 -0700: Hi all, We proposed a blueprint that supports API retry function with idenpotency for Heat. Prease review the blueprint. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/support-retry-with-idempotency This looks

Re: [openstack-dev] Building on Debian: Havana unit tests at build time report

2013-10-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2013-10-17 00:16:22 -0700: Hi, As you know, I maintain OpenStack both for Debian Sid, and a backport for Wheezy (non-official) repository (since using the backports repository for OpenStack wouldn't be practical). Below is the result of the building

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Freeze deps versions in requirements (was [tripleo], but that's a general topic)

2013-10-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2013-10-17 08:33:44 -0700: See above. Also, remember that package maintainers are a few (me alone for Debian, maybe 5 people in Ubuntu/Canonical) fighting hundreds of developers who wish not to be disturbed. However, in this particular case, the

Re: [openstack-dev] Change in openstack/heat[master]: Implement a Heat-native resource group

2013-10-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-10-17 17:19:58 -0700: What is the rationale for this new feature? Since there is already an autoscaling group implemented by Heat, what is the added benefit here? And why is it being done as another heat-native thing rather than as an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Plugin to use Docker containers a resources in a template

2013-10-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sam Alba's message of 2013-10-17 18:06:04 -0700: Hi all, I've been recently working on a Docker plugin for Heat that makes it possible to use Docker containers as resources. I've just opened the repository: https://github.com/dotcloud/openstack-heat-docker It's now

Re: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in all OpenStack projects (and [trove] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2013-10-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2013-10-18 23:01:50 -0700: Hi there, TroveClient just got rejected by Debian FTP masters. Reply from Luke Faraone is below. In general, I would strongly advise that a clean COPYRIGHT-HOLDER file is created with the copyright holders in them.

Re: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in all OpenStack projects (and [trove] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2013-10-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-21 13:45:21 -0700: On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 10:28 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-10-20 02:25:43 -0700: On 20 October 2013 02:35, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: However, even

[openstack-dev] [Tempest] Do we need more people reviewing tempest?

2013-10-22 Thread Clint Byrum
I recently submitted a _tiny_ change to tempest to enable Python3 porting in python-keystoneclient. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51736/ It has one +2 now, but 8 days after submitting it is still waiting for a second +2. It is not special though, there are 59 waiting on reviewer:

Re: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in all OpenStack projects (and [trove] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2013-10-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-10-21 17:09:41 -0700: On 10/21/2013 10:44 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-21 13:45:21 -0700: If you don't know who the copyright holders are, you cannot know that the license being granted

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2013-10-22 13:32:40 -0700: Hi Thomas, I agree with you on semantics part. At the same time I see a potential question which might appear - if semantics is limited by few states visible for Heat engine, then who actually does software

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-10-23 00:08:23 -0700: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 23.10.2013 00:28:17: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 23.10.2013 00:30 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700: Dear Steve and All, If I may add up on this already busy thread to share our experience with using Heat in large and complex software deployments. Thanks for sharing Patrick, I have a few replies in-line. I work on a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Day, Phil's message of 2013-10-25 03:46:01 -0700: Hi Folks, We're very occasionally seeing problems where a thread processing a create hangs (and we've seen when taking to Cinder and Glance). Whilst those issues need to be hunted down in their own rights, they do show up

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