Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Solum transitioned to openstack-dev

2013-10-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-10-30 12:08:28 -0700: Hi, The Solum team has agreed[1] to use openstack-dev, and has closed its project-specific mailing list. We look forward to discussing ongoing design and development efforts here. We are also transitioning to an openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2013-10-30 17:46:44 -0700: This works as long as you have 1 DB and don't fail over to a secondary slave DB. Now u can say we all must use percona (or similar) for this, but then Did you mean Galera which provides multiple synchronous masters? that¹s

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] TripleO core reviewer update - november

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-10-30 02:06:38 -0700: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted with -core

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-31 06:30:32 -0700: On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 15:37 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: This is a bit of a social norms thread I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, and I get the occasional push-back. I think this

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Khanh-Toan Tran's message of 2013-10-31 07:22:06 -0700: Hi all, As a newbie of the community, I'm not familiar with unittest and how to use it here. I've learned that Jenkins runs tests everytime we submit some code. But how to write the test and what is a 'good test' and a

Re: [openstack-dev] HK Summit - Image Creation and Customization unconference?

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-10-31 11:27:39 -0700: Hello, Would any of you attending the summit be interested in snagging an unconference session to discuss the state of play with image creation, customization and import? I can contribute an overview and demonstration of our

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [savanna] [trove] Place for software configuration

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexander Kuznetsov's message of 2013-10-31 10:51:54 -0700: Hi Heat, Savanna and Trove teams, All this projects have common part related to software configuration management. For creation, an environment user should specify a hardware parameter for vms: choose flavor,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Do we need to clean up resource_id after deletion?

2013-11-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Christopher Armstrong's message of 2013-11-01 11:34:56 -0700: Vijendar and I are trying to figure out if we need to set the resource_id of a resource to None when it's being deleted. This is done in a few resources, but not everywhere. To me it seems either a) redundant,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-11-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kyle Mestery (kmestery)'s message of 2013-11-05 06:35:04 +0800: On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Hi. I looked at the detailed API specification submitted by Edgar. I think that the document Edgar shared does a fine job in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum]: Welcome to the community site for Solum !!

2013-11-04 Thread Clint Byrum
This is cool, I think other OpenStack projects would do well to have a more user-centric landing page. I have a suggestion for a logo for Solum though ... http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-logo/ What I mean is, rather than create a new brand.. enhance the OpenStack brand with users.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum]: Welcome to the community site for Solum !!

2013-11-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-11-05 15:10:09 +0800: Clint, The rules about use of the OpenStack brand are clear, and Solum is not allowed to use it. We are a part of the OpenStack ecosystem, but the OpenStack brand (trademark/logo) is reserved for those projects that are

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][keystone] APIs, roles, request scope and admin-ness

2013-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-11-03 00:06:39 +0800: Hi all, Looking to start a wider discussion, prompted by: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54651/ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/management-api https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-management-api Summary -

Re: [openstack-dev] A Tool for Making OpenStack Log Reading a Bit Easier

2013-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
I often use ccze to look at logs. It has some built in things like coloring the words warn or warning yellow and error red. It would be great to have this filter added as another ccze plugin. Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2013-11-06 05:58:02 +0800: Hello All, The other day, I was

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Command Line Interface for Solum

2013-11-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Noorul Islam K M's message of 2013-11-10 07:15:34 -0800: Hello all, I registered a new blueprint [1] for command line client interface for Solum. We need to decide whether we should have a separate repository for this or go with new unified CLI framework [2]. Since Solum is

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Policy on spelling and grammar

2013-11-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from David Kranz's message of 2013-11-11 09:58:59 -0800: I have seen a wide variety of -1'ing (and in many cases approving) patches for minor spelling or grammatical errors and think we need a policy about this. Given the large number of contributors for whom English is not their

Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon PTL candidacy

2013-11-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matthias Runge's message of 2013-11-11 00:04:52 -0800: On 11/10/2013 11:53 PM, John Dickinson wrote: A random off-the-top-of-my-head use case would be to subscribe to events from creating or changing objects in a particular Swift account or container. This would allow much

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Policy on spelling and grammar

2013-11-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-11-11 14:19:41 -0800: On 11/11/2013 02:28 PM, Tim Bell wrote: As a speaker of the Queen's English, I find flavor to be incorrect. Does that mean I can -1 any patch that does not use flavour ? At CERN, we are working with 130 countries in a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800: Hi all, I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal for HOT software configuration based on discussions at the design summit last week. Angus also put a sample up in an etherpad last week,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-13 Thread Clint Byrum
configuration refined after design summit discussions On 12/11/13 10:32 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800: Hi all, I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal for HOT software configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list

2013-11-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-14 05:12:55 -0800: Hi everyone, I think that we have recently reached critical mass for the openstack-dev mailing-list, with 2267 messages posted in October, and November well on its way to pass 2000 again. Some of those are just off-topic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] DiskBuilder / savanna-image-elements

2013-11-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Erik Bergenholtz's message of 2013-11-15 08:20:36 -0800: Team - We’d like to move our disk creation mechanism over to using DiskBuilder so that users can build (and modify) their own VM images. We’d like to piggy back off of the existing mechanism that the vanilla plugin

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stefano Maffulli's message of 2013-11-15 09:12:05 -0800: On 11/15/2013 02:06 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Arguments in favor of splitting openstack-dev / stackforge-dev * People can easily filter out all non-openstack discussions * Traffic would drop by about 25% I'm not so

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sam Alba's message of 2013-11-18 14:05:47 -0800: Hello everyone, As some of you already know - in Hong-Kong during the last OpenStack Summit - we ran a design session in the Nova topic titled Docker support in OpenStack. The session concluded in developing a new OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vijay Venkatachalam's message of 2013-11-19 05:48:43 -0800: Hi Sam, Eugene, Avishay, etal, Today I spent some time to create a write-up for SSL Termination not exactly design doc. Please share your comments!

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-15 12:41:53 -0800: Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that we all needed at the design summit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat/The_Missing_Diagram I've documented 5

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 09:29:00 -0800: On 11/18/2013 06:47 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the scheduler would not make

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will fill their resources up in a relatively

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-19 13:06:21 -0800: On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is deleted it should trigger any remove_config

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 12:18:16 -0800: On 11/19/2013 01:51 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-11-19 16:22:41 -0800: On 20 November 2013 13:00, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think is pretty core and we have no native replacement [configdrive is not a replacement :P].

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-19 23:35:40 -0800: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 19.11.2013 21:40:54: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 19.11.2013 21:43 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 13:46:25 -0800: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 11:09:34 -0800: OTOH, the more we restrict what can be done, the less useful this really is. I would be more specific and say it as ...the less divergent behavior is actually possible. It will be quite a bit more useful if it is boring and

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][py3] Usage of httpretty

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chuck Short's message of 2013-11-20 19:21:14 -0800: Hi, So maybe if it gets to the point where it gets too be much of a porblem we should just put it on stackforge. That should be the last resort, when upstream is deemed dead. I'm guessing upstream would not like to fade away

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 15:16:45 -0800: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/20/2013 05:41:16 PM: Autoscaling doesn't really fly with stateful services IMO. I presume you're concerned about the auto part, not the scaling. Even a stateful group

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2013-11-19 21:33:08 -0800: Hi stackers, Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at least I would like to track. But reading all mailing lists, and reviewing all patches in all interesting projects to get high level

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2013-11-21 00:16:04 -0800: Clint, The main idea is to have processed by human history of project. It is really impossible to aggregate automatically all data from different sources: IRC (main project chat/dev chat/meetings), Mailing Lists, Code,

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-22 01:50:39 -0800: Tim Bell wrote: Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as part of this ? - Configuration management will need further modules - Dashboard confusion as we get multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clayton Coleman's message of 2013-11-22 21:43:40 -0800: On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/22/2013 11:34 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: I have updated the language pack (name subject to change) blueprint with the outcomes from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] git-Integration working group

2013-11-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-11-22 18:51:16 -0800: Monty, On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/22/2013 05:37 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: Hello all, I would like to kickoff the Git integration discussion. Goal of this subgroup is

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-11-25 01:30:11 -0800: On 25 November 2013 22:23, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I do wonder if we would be able to commit enough resources to just run two copies of the gate in parallel each time and require both to pass. Doubling

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-11-25 06:52:02 -0800: On 11/25/2013 04:23 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2013-11-24 21:00:58 -0800: Hi All, TL;DR Last week the gate got wedged on nondeterministic failures. Unwedging the gate required drastic

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: Hi Steve, As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new blueprints I wanted to take a moment to assure you and the rest of the Openstack community that the primary purpose of pushing these requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] [all project] Treating recently seen recheck bugs as critical across the board

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-26 03:23:51 -0800: Dolph Mathews wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: So my proposal is that we make it part of the base hygiene for a project

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ladislav Smola's message of 2013-11-26 06:04:12 -0800: Hello, seems too big to do the inline comments, so just a few notes here: If we truly want to have Templates portable, it would mean to have the 'metadata' somehow standardised, right? Can you point to another portable

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-27 08:09:33 -0800: In the longer term, there seems to be a lot of demand for some sort of template catalog service, like Glance for templates. (I disagree with Clint that it should actually _be_ Glance the project as we know it, for the reasons

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-27 09:16:24 -0800: On 11/27/13 10:09 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: Parameters: parameter name:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-11-27 08:58:16 -0800: This use case is sort of a providence case. Where did the stack come from so I can find out more about it. This exhibits similar problems to our Copyright header problems. Relying on authors to maintain their authorship

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-11-27 10:57:56 -0800: On 11/27/2013 01:28 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: Parameters: parameter name: description: This is the name of a nova key pair

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-11-25 20:25:50 -0800: Back in the Day, Barbican was just one Service of Cloud Keep. While I would say that KDS belongs in the Cloud Keep, it is not the same as, and should not be deployed with Barbican. Is it possible to keep them as separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][hadoop][template] Does anyone has a hadoop template

2013-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Lau's message of 2013-11-28 16:48:41 -0800: Hi, I'm now trying to deploy a hadoop cluster with heat, just wondering if someone who has a heat template which can help me do the work. Hi Jay, this is off topic for the openstack-dev mailing list. Please re-post your question

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 08:08:09 -0800: I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP addresses when a Neutron service is under high load: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1192381 High load causes the DHCP agent's status updates to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 19:37:19 -0800: On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 08:08:09 -0800: I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP addresses when

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-03 16:05:47 -0800: On 12/03/2013 06:13 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-03 17:09, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/03/2013 05:50 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 16:23 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-03 15:56, Sean Dague wrote: This

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-04 10:51:16 -0800: On 12/04/2013 11:56 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-04 06:07, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/03/2013 11:21 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-03 16:05:47 -0800: On 12/03/2013 06:13 PM, Ben Nemec

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] MySQL Storage Engine

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Paul Montgomery's message of 2013-12-04 12:04:06 -0800: TLDR: Should Solum log a warning if operators do not use the InnoDB storage engine with MySQL in Solum's control plane? Details: I was looking at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57024/ Models.py to be specific.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-12-04 15:44:45 -0800: Jamie, Thanks for the guidance here. I am checking to see if any of our developers might take an interest in helping with the upstream work. At the very least, it might be nice to have some understanding of how much work

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-12-04 16:53:16 -0800: Clint, On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-12-04 15:44:45 -0800: Jamie, Thanks for the guidance here. I am checking to see if any of our

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-12-04 17:54:45 -0800: Why not just use glance? I've asked that question a few times, and I think I can collate the responses I've received below. I think enhancing glance to do these things is on the table: 1. Glance is for big blobs of data not

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Julien Danjou's message of 2013-12-05 01:22:00 -0800: On Wed, Dec 04 2013, Sean Dague wrote: Honestly, I'd love us to be clever and figure out a not dangerous way through this, even if unwise (where we can yell at the user in the LOGs loudly, and fail them in J if

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-12-05 09:49:03 -0800: On 12/5/13 11:33 AM, Randall Burt randall.b...@rackspace.com wrote: On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2013-12-05 08:35:12 -0800: On Thu, Dec 5

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2013-12-05 09:05:44 -0800: On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-12-04 17:54:45 -0800: Why not just use glance? I've asked that question a few times, and I think I can

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Andrew Plunk's message of 2013-12-05 12:42:49 -0800: Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2013-12-05 09:05:44 -0800: On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Clint Byrum clint at fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-12-04 17:54:45 -0800: Why not just

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-12-05 13:07:17 -0800: On 12/5/13 12:17 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-12-05 09:49:03 -0800: On 12/5/13 11:33 AM, Randall Burt randall.b...@rackspace.com wrote: On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:10 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-03 23:12:39 -0800: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted with -core

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-05 21:32:54 -0800: On 12/05/2013 04:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Andrew Plunk's message of 2013-12-05 12:42:49 -0800: Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2013-12-05 09:05:44 -0800: On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Clint Byrum clint

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] capturing build details in images

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-04 14:19:44 -0800: So - what about us capturing this information outside the image: we can create a uuid for the build, and write a file in the image with that uuid, and outside the image we can write: - all variables (no security

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Questions around Development Process

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tzu-Mainn Chen's message of 2013-12-06 07:37:20 -0800: Hey all, We're starting to work on the UI for tuskar based on Jarda's wireframes, and as we're doing so, we're realizing that we're not quite sure what development methodology is appropriate. Some questions: a)

Re: [openstack-dev] [olso] [cinder] upgrade issues in lock_path in cinder after oslo utils sync (was: creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?)

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2013-12-06 13:38:16 -0800: On 2013-12-06 15:14, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello, Sean. I get the issue with upgrade path. User doesn't want to update config unless one is forced to do so. But introducing code that weakens security and let it

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-06 16:46:24 -0800: On 12/06/2013 01:38 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-05 21:32:54 -0800: On 12/05/2013 04:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Andrew Plunk's message of 2013-12-05 12:42:49 -0800

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2013-12-06 12:27:10 -0800: Another idea that I'll put up for consideration (since I work with the cloud-init codebase also). Cloud-init[1] which currently does lots of little useful initialization types of activities (similar to the racker agents

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sandy Walsh's message of 2013-12-06 12:12:16 -0800: On 12/06/2013 03:45 PM, Dmitry Mescheryakov wrote: Hello all, We would like to push further the discussion on unified guest agent. You may find the details of our proposal at [1]. Also let me clarify why we started

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2013-12-06 23:53:47 -0800: Agreed, Chatting earlier today on #cloud-init about all of this I think scott convinced me that maybe we (the joint we in the community at large) should think about asking ourselves what do we really want a guest agent

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-07 00:17:19 -0800: On 7 December 2013 21:08, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: So what is needed is domain specific command execution and segregation of capabilities. Sounds rather like mcollective. It does actually. If it weren't

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nicolas Barcet's message of 2013-12-07 01:33:01 -0800: On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: So what is needed is domain specific command execution and segregation of capabilities. To further this, I know that a lot of security minded people

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Harwell's message of 2014-06-10 12:04:41 -0700: So, it looks like any sort of validation on Deletes in Barbican is going to be a no-go. I'd like to propose a third option, which might be the safest route to take for LBaaS while still providing some of the convenience of

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Janczuk, Tomasz's message of 2014-06-11 10:05:54 -0700: On 6/11/14, 2:43 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 06/10/2014 09:57 PM, Janczuk, Tomasz wrote: Using processes to isolate tenants is certainly possible. There is a range of isolation mechanisms that can be used,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Heat template parameters encryption

2014-06-12 Thread Clint Byrum
I tend to agree with you Keith, securing Heat is Heat's problem. Securing Nova is nova's problem. And I too would expect that those with admin access to Heat, would not have admin access to Nova. That is why we split these things up with API's. I still prefer that users encrypt secrets on the

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate proposal - drop Postgresql configurations in the gate

2014-06-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2014-06-12 08:15:46 -0700: On 6/12/2014 9:38 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On 6/12/14, 8:26 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Thu, Jun 12 2014, Sean Dague wrote: That's not cacthable in unit or functional tests? Not in an accurate manner, no. Keeping

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: Fwd: Debian people don't like bash8 as a project name (Bug#748383: ITP: bash8 -- bash script style guide checker)

2014-06-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2014-06-13 03:04:07 -0700: On 06/13/2014 06:53 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: Hi Thomas, I felt a couple sentences here were reasonable to add (more than “don’t care” from before). I understand your concerns here, and I totally get what you’re

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] How to avoid property revalidation?

2014-06-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-06-15 02:40:14 -0700: Hi all, So, I stumbled accross an issue while fixing up some tests, which is that AFAICS since Icehouse we continually revalidate every property every time they are accessed:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matthew Booth's message of 2014-06-13 01:40:30 -0700: On 12/06/14 21:38, Joshua Harlow wrote: So just a few thoughts before going to far down this path, Can we make sure we really really understand the use-case where we think this is needed. I think it's fine that this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Starting contributing to project

2014-06-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sławek Kapłoński's message of 2014-06-15 13:10:56 -0700: Hello, I want to start contributing to neutron project. I found bug which I want to try fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1204956 and I have question about workflow in such case. Should I clone neutron

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-16 09:19:40 -0700: All, After having proposed some changes[1][2] to tripleo-heat-templates[3], reviewers suggested adding a deprecation period for the merge.py script. While TripleO is an official OpenStack program, none of the projects

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-06-16 09:41:49 -0700: On 16 June 2014 17:30, Jason Rist jr...@redhat.com wrote: I'm going to have to agree with Tomas here. There doesn't seem to be any reasonable expectation of backwards compatibility for the reasons he outlined, despite some

Re: [openstack-dev] revert hacking to 0.8 series

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-16 05:15:54 -0700: Hacking 0.9 series was released pretty late for Juno. The entire check queue was flooded this morning with requirements proposals failing pep8 because of it (so at 6am EST we were waiting 1.5 hrs for a check node). The previous

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-06-16 10:46:12 -0700: Hi Clint This looks like a special pleading here - all OpenStack projects (or 'program' if you prefer - I'm honestly not seeing a difference) have bits that they've written quickly and would rather not have to maintain, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2014-06-10 14:41:29 -0700: Of what use is a database that randomly delete rows? That is, in effect, what you’re allowing. The secrets are only useful when paired with a service. And unless I’m mistaken, there’s no undo. So you’re letting users

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2014-06-16 13:22:26 -0700: nobody is calling Barbican a database. It is a place to store Š did you at least feel a heavy sense of irony as you typed those two statements? ³It¹s not a database, it just stores things!² :-) Not at all, though I

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Use MariaDB by default on Fedora

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2014-06-16 14:04:19 -0700: Excerpts from Jan Provazník's message of 2014-06-16 20:28:29 +: Hi, MariaDB is now included in Fedora repositories, this makes it easier to install and more stable option for Fedora installations. Currently MariaDB

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Carlos Garza's message of 2014-06-16 16:25:10 -0700: On Jun 16, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2014-06-16 13:22:26 -0700: nobody is calling Barbican a database. It is a place to store Š did you at least feel

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matthew Booth's message of 2014-06-17 01:36:11 -0700: On 17/06/14 00:28, Joshua Harlow wrote: So this is a reader/write lock then? I have seen https://github.com/python-zk/kazoo/pull/141 come up in the kazoo (zookeeper python library) but there was a lack of a maintainer

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-17 04:56:24 -0700: On 16/06/14 18:51, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-16 09:19:40 -0700: All, After having proposed some changes[1][2] to tripleo-heat-templates[3], reviewers suggested adding

[openstack-dev] [Heat] fine grained quotas

2014-06-19 Thread Clint Byrum
I was made aware of the following blueprint today: http://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-quota-api-for-heat http://review.openstack.org/#/c/96696/14 Before this goes much further.. I want to suggest that this work be cancelled, even though the code looks excellent. The reason those

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] fine grained quotas

2014-06-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2014-06-19 15:21:14 -0700: On Jun 19, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I was made aware of the following blueprint today: http://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-quota-api-for-heat http://review.openstack.org/#/c/96696

Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: [Heat] fine grained quotas

2014-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
better. Your idea? By the way, I do think that, the DoS problem is interesting in Heat. Can we have more discussion on that? Thanks again! -邮件原件- 发件人: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] 发送时间: 2014年6月20日 6:33 收件人: openstack-dev 主题: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] fine

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] CI status update for this week

2014-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Charles Crouch's message of 2014-06-20 13:51:49 -0700: - Original Message - Not a great week for TripleO CI. We had 3 different failures related to: Nova [1]: we were using a deprecated config option Heat [2]: missing heat data obtained from the Heat CFN API

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-20 11:07:39 -0700: After seeing a bunch of code changes to enforce new hacking rules, I'd like to propose dropping some of the rules we have. The overall patch series is here -

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-21 05:08:01 -0700: On 06/20/2014 09:26 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-20 11:07:39 -0700: H803 - First line of a commit message must *not* end in a period. This was mostly a response to an unreasonable core

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-06-22 00:39:29 -0700: The main point is that this is something worth addressing as a wider community rather than in individual reviews with a limited audience. And that doing it with a bit of humor might help take the sting out of it. Yes, a

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