Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][oslo] Locks for create from volume/snapshot

2015-06-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2015-06-29 07:54:27 -0700: Do we know what is so hated about the glance task API? Tasks and entity queues give the required exclusion, if you accept that tasks can fail if previous tasks in the queue can cause things to be pulled out from under it.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] diskimage-builder 1.0.0

2015-06-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2015-06-29 05:44:18 -0700: Hello all, DIB has come a long way and we seem to have a fairly stable interface for the elements and the image creation scripts. As such, I think it's about time we commit to a major version release. Hopefully this can

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][python3] use of six.iteritems()

2015-06-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Top posting as this is more a response to the whole thread. My take aways from the most excellent discussion: * There is some benefit to iteritems in python2 when you need it. * OpenStack does not seem to need it - Except in places that are operating on tens of thousands of large objects

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Redis as Messaging System

2015-05-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Todd Crane's message of 2015-05-23 12:09:10 -0700: Does anybody know of a way (either current projects or future plans) to use Redis PubSub as the messaging system for OpenStack? You'd need to write a driver for oslo.messaging. AFAIK nobody has done that as of yet. Also it's

Re: [openstack-dev] In memory joins in Nova

2015-08-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Bayer's message of 2015-08-13 11:03:32 +0800: On 8/12/15 10:29 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Dan Smith's message of 2015-08-12 23:12:23 +0800: If OTOH we are referring to the width of the columns and the join is such that you're going to get the same A identity

Re: [openstack-dev] In memory joins in Nova

2015-08-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Smith's message of 2015-08-12 23:12:23 +0800: If OTOH we are referring to the width of the columns and the join is such that you're going to get the same A identity over and over again, if you join A and B you get a wide row with all of A and B with a very large amount

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Encapsulating logic and state in the client

2015-08-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2015-08-17 09:25:36 -0700: It occurs to me that there has never been a detailed exposition of the purpose of the tripleo-common library here, and that this might be a good time to rectify that. Basically, there are two things that it sucks to have in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Meta: Bogdan, please do try to get your email client to reply with references to the thread, so it doesn't create a new thread. Excerpts from bdobrelia's message of 2015-08-01 09:27:17 -0700: I suggest to use pacemaker multistate clone resource to rotate and rsync fernet tokens from local

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Bobrov's message of 2015-08-01 14:18:21 -0700: On Saturday 01 August 2015 16:27:17 bdobre...@mirantis.com wrote: I suggest to use pacemaker multistate clone resource to rotate and rsync fernet tokens from local directories across cluster nodes. The resource prototype

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-07-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Perez's message of 2015-07-31 10:40:04 -0700: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: ...random thought here, skip as needed... in all honesty orchestration solutions like mesos

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Let's talk about API versions

2015-07-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-07-31 04:14:54 -0700: On 07/30/2015 04:58 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: snip Thoughts? * I'm assuming it is possible to make micro version changes to the 1.x API as 1.10.1, 1.10.2,etc Despite most folks calling

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Philipp Marek's message of 2015-08-05 00:10:30 -0700: Well, is it already decided that Pacemaker would be chosen to provide HA in Openstack? There's been a talk Pacemaker: the PID 1 of Openstack IIRC. I know that Pacemaker's been pushed aside in an earlier ML post, but IMO

Re: [openstack-dev] [Security] Would people see a value in the cve-check-tool? (Reshetova, Elena)

2015-08-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Reshetova, Elena's message of 2015-08-05 09:08:16 -0700: The only concern that I have is the requisite database. Downloading a 500MB + CVE database for the jobs could become painful. We could either keep the CVE database on each node in the test pool or download it at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Gorka Eguileor gegui...@redhat.com wrote: I know we've all been looking at the HA Active-Active problem in Cinder and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2015-08-03 08:53:21 -0700: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Let's talk about API versions

2015-07-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jim Rollenhagen's message of 2015-07-27 13:35:25 -0700: Hi friends. Ironic implemented API micro versions in Kilo. We originally did this to allow for breaking changes in the API while allowing users to opt in to the breakage. Since then, we've had a default version for our

Re: [openstack-dev] In memory joins in Nova

2015-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sachin Manpathak's message of 2015-08-12 05:40:36 +0800: Hi folks, Nova codebase seems to follow manual joins model where all data required by an API is fetched from multiple tables and then joined manually by using (in most cases) python dictionary lookups. I was wondering

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2015-08-04 00:32:40 -0700: On 3 August 2015 at 20:53, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2015-08-03 08:53:21 -0700: Also on a side note, I think Cinder's need for this is really subtle, and one

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Possible issues cryptography 1.0 and os-client-config 1.6.2

2015-08-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Dent's message of 2015-08-14 02:08:28 -0700: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015, Robert Collins wrote: The vast majority of our developers do not fix such bugs. They react by blacklisting the proximate cause of the issue - the new release - locally, submit a patch to

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][magnum][heat]problems for synchronizing stack parameters from heat

2015-08-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from 王华's message of 2015-08-14 00:52:43 -0700: Hi all, Magnum creates a stack when a bay is created and update the stack parameters when the bay is updated. Magnum has a periodic task to synchronize stack status from heat. And now we want to synchronize stack parameters from

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][magnum][heat]problems for synchronizing stack parameters from heat

2015-08-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from 王华's message of 2015-08-14 02:34:59 -0700: Hi Clint Byrum, Trusts can solve this problem, but it may cause performance problem. When we want to get a stack, we need to get the trust_id from db first, and authenticate with the trust_id, then we can get the stack. Indeed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-07-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexander Makarov's message of 2015-07-27 10:01:34 -0700: Greetings! I'd like to discuss pro's and contra's of having Fernet encryption keys stored in a database backend. The idea itself emerged during discussion about synchronizing rotated keys in HA environment. Now Fernet

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Let's talk about API versions

2015-07-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-07-27 13:41:20 -0700: On 07/27/2015 04:35 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: Hi friends. Ironic implemented API micro versions in Kilo. We originally did this to allow for breaking changes in the API while allowing users to opt in to the breakage.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Let's talk about API versions

2015-07-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jim Rollenhagen's message of 2015-07-27 13:35:25 -0700: Hi friends. Ironic implemented API micro versions in Kilo. We originally did this to allow for breaking changes in the API while allowing users to opt in to the breakage. Since then, we've had a default version for our

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [app-catalog] TripleO, Advanced Services, and the App Catalog

2015-07-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Christopher Aedo's message of 2015-07-25 19:35:24 -0700: On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: I'm not really sure how to start this conversation so I'll just start in. Please bare with me for a bit. Something of a problem description:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [app-catalog] TripleO, Advanced Services, and the App Catalog

2015-07-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Christopher Aedo's message of 2015-07-26 14:52:31 -0700: On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Christopher Aedo's message of 2015-07-25 19:35:24 -0700: My understanding of TripleO is that the entire model is tightly coupled

Re: [openstack-dev] [GSLB][LBaaS] Launchpad project, git repos and more!

2015-07-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Perhaps I missed a discussion: You seem to be doing all the things that an OpenStack project team does. Is there some reason you aren't just creating an OpenStack project team? http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html

Re: [openstack-dev] OPENSTACK with CEPH storage backend cant down size an instance

2015-07-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Galvin's message of 2015-07-24 09:08:36 -0700: Hi All I am having some trouble with down sizing an instance, I can resize the instance from say small flavour to medium flavour but when trying to resize the instance back from medium to small I get the following :

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][api] Response when a illegal body is sent

2015-07-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2015-07-24 08:58:06 -0700: On 7/23/15, 19:38, michael mccune m...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/23/2015 12:43 PM, Ryan Brown wrote: On 07/23/2015 12:13 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 07/23/2015 10:53 AM, Bunting, Niall wrote: Hi, Currently when a body is

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][api][tc] Response when a illegal body is sent

2015-07-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2015-07-24 11:22:33 -0700: On 7/24/15, 13:16, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2015-07-24 08:58:06 -0700: On 7/23/15, 19:38, michael mccune m...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/23/2015 12:43 PM, Ryan Brown

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal for an Experiment

2015-07-15 Thread Clint Byrum
What you describe is a spike. It's a grand plan, and you don't need anyone's permission, so huzzah for the spike! As far as what should be improved, I hear a lot that having multiple schedulers does not scale well, so I'd suggest that as a primary target (maybe measure the _current_ problem, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal for an Experiment

2015-07-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jesse Cook's message of 2015-07-20 07:48:46 -0700: On 7/15/15, 9:18 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Changing the architecture of a complex system such as Nova is never easy, even when we know that the design isn't working

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Exposing provider networks in network_data.json

2015-07-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sam Stoelinga's message of 2015-07-18 05:39:23 -0700: +1 on Kevin Benton's comments. Ironic should have integration with switches where the switches are SDN compatible. The individual bare metal node should not care which vlan, vxlan or other translation is programmed at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal for an Experiment

2015-07-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2015-07-20 12:17:29 -0700: On 07/20/2015 11:40 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: To your earlier point about state being abused in the system, I totally 100% agree. In the past I've wondered a lot if there can be a worker model, where compute hosts all try

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal for an Experiment

2015-07-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2015-07-20 14:30:53 -0700: On 07/20/2015 02:04 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2015-07-20 12:17:29 -0700: Some questions: 1) Could you elaborate a bit on how this would work? I don't quite understand how you

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal for an Experiment

2015-07-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-07-20 14:57:48 -0700: I have a feeling that we really need to make whatever this selection process has clearly defined API boundaries, so that various 'implementation experiments' can be used (and researched on). Those API boundaries will be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] conditional resource exposure - second thoughts

2015-07-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Pavlo Shchelokovskyy's message of 2015-07-14 11:34:37 -0700: Hi Heaters, currently we already expose to the user only resources for services deployed in the cloud [1], and soon we will do the same based on whether actual user roles allow creating specific resources [2]. Here I

Re: [openstack-dev] [cross-project] Admin

2015-10-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-10-19 22:53:14 +0900: > While I tend to play up bug 968696 for dramatic effect, the reality is > we have a logical contradiction on what we mean by 'admin' when talking > about RBAC. > > In early iterations of OpenStack, roles were global. This is

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] [Heat] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2015-11-11 09:43:43 -0800: > 1. Keystone (or some Rabbit->Zaqar proxy service reading notifications > from Keystone) sends "new federated user" notification out via Zaqar. > 2. Mistral picks up the message and checks policy to see what should be > done. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] About rebuilding volume-backed instances.

2015-11-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Murray, Paul (HP Cloud)'s message of 2015-11-11 09:01:16 -0800: > > Unfortunately, you're trying to work around misuse of the cloud API's, not > > missing features from them. Don't use those volume types, and don't build > > systems that rely on single ports and interfaces. IMO

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Richard Raseley's message of 2015-11-09 10:34:26 -0800: > From this operator’s perspective this is exactly the element of community > culture that, by encouraging the proliferation of projects and tools, is > making the OpenStack landscape more complex and less >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] About rebuilding volume-backed instances.

2015-11-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zhenyu Zheng's message of 2015-11-08 23:04:59 -0800: > Hi All, > > Currently, we have strong demands about "rebuilding"(or actions like > rebuilding) volume-backed instances. As in production deployment, volume > backed instance is widely used. Users have the demands of performing

Re: [openstack-dev] Help with getting keystone to migrate to Debian testing: fixing repoze.what and friends

2015-11-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-11 10:57:26 -0800: > Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-11-10 20:17:12 -0800: > > On Nov 10, 2015 16:48, "Clint Byrum" <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > > > > Excerpts from Morgan Fain

Re: [openstack-dev] Help with getting keystone to migrate to Debian testing: fixing repoze.what and friends

2015-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jamie Lennox's message of 2015-11-12 15:28:06 -0800: > On 12 November 2015 at 15:09, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-11 10:57:26 -0800: > > > Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message o

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Use of self signed certs in endpoints

2015-11-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Xav Paice's message of 2015-11-15 11:45:55 -0800: > After having a brief discussion this morning (NZ time) on the > #python-requests irc, it seems that using the system CA bundle is a "Not a > chance" situation. They've tried, and found it unmaintainable due to the > vast variations

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] [Heat] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Renat Akhmerov's message of 2015-11-12 07:52:42 -0800: > > > On 12 Nov 2015, at 00:11, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2015-11-11 09:43:43 -0800: > >> 1. Keystone (or some Rabbit->Za

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Outcome of distributed lock manager discussion @ the summit

2015-11-10 Thread Clint Byrum
; sites already. being able to support it may be less of a burden to > > operators then zk in some cases. > > > > If your cloud grows to the point where the dlm choice really matters for > > scalability/correctness, then you probably have enough staff members to > > d

Re: [openstack-dev] Help with getting keystone to migrate to Debian testing: fixing repoze.what and friends

2015-11-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-11-10 20:17:12 -0800: > On Nov 10, 2015 16:48, "Clint Byrum" <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > > Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-11-10 15:31:16 -0800: > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:20 PM

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] [nova] default-next-release opt flag

2015-11-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexis Lee's message of 2015-11-17 09:28:31 -0800: > Often in Nova we introduce an option defaulted off (so as not to break > people) but then we want to make it default in the next release. > > Someone suggested an opt flag to mark this but I don't know what impact > they wanted it

Re: [openstack-dev] Help with getting keystone to migrate to Debian testing: fixing repoze.what and friends

2015-11-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-11-10 15:31:16 -0800: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > Hi there! > > > > All of Liberty would be migrating from Sid to Testing (which is the > > pre-condition for an upload to offical Debian backports)

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] About rebuilding volume-backed instances.

2015-11-10 Thread Clint Byrum
ze the configuration using your tools, and then move the volume attachment from the old to the new. *DO* build systems that use DNS or a VIP to communicate so that new ports can be allocated and attached to the new instance while the old one is stil active. > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Clint Byru

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Outcome of distributed lock manager discussion @ the summit

2015-11-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-11-04 12:57:53 -0800: > Ed Leafe wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > >> Here's a Devstack review for zookeeper in support of this initiative: > >> > >> https://review.openstack.org/241040 > >> > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Proposing Ian Wienand as core reviewer on diskimage-builder

2015-11-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2015-11-03 07:25:27 -0800: > Hello everyone, > > I would like to propose adding Ian Wienand as a core reviewer on the > diskimage-builder project. Ian has been making a significant number of > contributions for some time to the project, and has been a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Spam] Re: [all] Outcome of distributed lock manager discussion @ the summit

2015-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Dent's message of 2015-11-05 00:08:16 -0800: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Robert Collins wrote: > > > In the session we were told that zookeeper is already used in CI jobs > > for ceilometer (was this wrong?) and thats why we figured it made a > > sane default for devstack. > > For

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: > Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 12:34:12 -0500: > > Can people help me work through the right set of tools for this use case > > (has come up from several Operators) and map out a plan to implement it: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Outcome of distributed lock manager discussion @ the summit

2015-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2015-11-04 14:32:42 -0800: > To clarify that statement a little more, > > Speaking only for myself as an op, I don't want to support yet one more > snowflake in a sea of snowflakes, that works differently then all the rest, > without a very good reason. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleO] appropriate location for docker image uploading

2015-11-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jeff Peeler's message of 2015-11-03 11:54:24 -0800: > I'm looking at introducing the ability for tripleoclient to upload > docker images into a docker registry (planning for it to be installed > in the undercloud [1]). I wanted to make sure something like this > would be accepted or

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api][tc][perfromance] API for getting only status of resources

2015-11-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2015-11-03 14:20:10 -0800: > Hi stackers, > > Usually such projects like Heat, Tempest, Rally, Scalar, and other tool > that works with OpenStack are working with resources (e.g. VM, Volumes, > Images, ..) in the next way: > > >>> resource =

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api][tc][perfromance] API for getting only status of resources

2015-11-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2015-11-03 17:32:43 -0800: > Clint, Morgan, > > I totally agree that the pub/sub model is better approach. > > However, there are 2 great things about polling: > 1) it's simpler to use than pub/sub (especially in shell) I envision something like this:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api][tc][perfromance] API for getting only status of resources

2015-11-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from John Griffith's message of 2015-11-03 21:45:12 -0800: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > > > Hi stackers, > > > > Usually such projects like Heat, Tempest, Rally, Scalar, and other tool > > that works with OpenStack are working with

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Outcome of distributed lock manager discussion @ the summit

2015-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2015-11-05 13:18:13 -0800: > Your assuming there are only 2 choices, > zk or db+rabbit. I'm claiming both hare suboptimal at present. a 3rd might > be needed. Though even with its flaws, the db+rabbit choice has a few > benefits too. > Well, I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][policy] Exposing hypervisor details to users

2015-11-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tony Breeds's message of 2015-11-05 22:08:59 -0800: > Hello all, > I came across [1] which is notionally an ironic bug in that horizon > presents > VM operations (like suspend) to users. Clearly these options don't make sense > to ironic which can be confusing. > > There is a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [stable][all] Keeping Juno "alive" for longer.

2015-11-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-06 10:28:41 -0800: > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-06 10:12:21 -0800: > > Excerpts from Dan Smith's message of 2015-11-06 09:37:44 -0800: > > > > Worth mentioning that OpenStack releases that come out at the same time > > > > as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [stable][all] Keeping Juno "alive" for longer.

2015-11-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-11-06 11:11:02 -0800: > Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-06 10:28:41 -0800: > >> Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-06 10:12:21 -0800: > >>> Excerpts from Dan Smith's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [stable][all] Keeping Juno "alive" for longer.

2015-11-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Smith's message of 2015-11-06 09:37:44 -0800: > > Worth mentioning that OpenStack releases that come out at the same time > > as Ubuntu LTS releases (12.04 + Essex, 14.04 + Icehouse, 16.04 + Mitaka) > > are supported for 5 years by Canonical so are already kind of an LTS. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [stable][all] Keeping Juno "alive" for longer.

2015-11-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Erik McCormick's message of 2015-11-06 09:36:44 -0800: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Mark Baker wrote: > > Worth mentioning that OpenStack releases that come out at the same time as > > Ubuntu LTS releases (12.04 + Essex, 14.04 + Icehouse, 16.04 +

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2015-10-07 12:28:36 -0700: > On 07/10/15 13:36, Ed Leafe wrote: > > Several months ago I proposed an experiment [0] to see if switching the > > data model for the Nova scheduler to use Cassandra as the backend would be > > a significant improvement as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maish Saidel-Keesing's message of 2015-10-08 00:14:55 -0700: > Forgive the top-post. > > Cross-posting to openstack-operators for their feedback as well. > > Ed the work seems very promising, and I am interested to see how this > evolves. > > With my operator hat on I have one

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-10-08 08:38:57 -0700: > Joshua Harlow wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 10:43:01 -0400 > > Monty Taylor wrote: > > > >> On 10/08/2015 09:01 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >>> Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: > Operational overhead has a

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ed Leafe's message of 2015-10-15 11:56:24 -0700: > Wow, I seem to have unleashed a bunch of pent-up frustration in the > community! It's great to see everyone coming forward with their ideas and > insights for improving the way Nova (and, by extension, all of OpenStack) can >

Re: [openstack-dev] Custom Nova scheduler based on CPU queue length

2015-10-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Rahul Nair's message of 2015-10-20 18:53:09 -0700: > ​Hi All, > > I am fairly new to the OpenStack community and is trying to create a custom > scheduler for Nova. A scheduler based on CPU queue length. Kindly apologize > if there are any inaccuracies in my statements. > > As I

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alec Hothan (ahothan)'s message of 2015-10-09 21:19:14 -0700: > > On 10/9/15, 6:29 PM, "Clint Byrum" <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > >Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2015-10-09 17:33:38 -0700: > >> On 10/09/2015 03:36 PM, Ian Wells

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Wells's message of 2015-10-09 19:14:17 -0700: > On 9 October 2015 at 18:29, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > Instead of having the scheduler do all of the compute node inspection > > and querying though, you have the nodes push their stats

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-10-10 17:43:40 -0700: > I'm curious is there any more detail about #1 below anywhere online? > > Does cassandra use some features of the JVM that the openJDK version > doesn't support? Something else? > This about sums it up:

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2015-10-11 00:02:39 -0700: > 2Everybody, > > Just curios why we need such complexity. > > > Let's take a look from other side: > 1) Information about all hosts (even in case of 100k hosts) will be less > then 1 GB > 2) Usually servers that runs

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2015-10-09 23:16:43 -0700: > On 10/09/2015 07:29 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Even if you figured out how to make the in-memory scheduler crazy fast, > > There's still value in concurrency for other reasons. No matter how > > fas

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-10-12 05:57:26 -0700: > On 10/11/2015 02:53 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > Thomas, > > > > i am curious as well. AFAIK, cassandra works well with OpenJDK. Can you > > please elaborate what you concerns are for #1? > > > > Thanks, > > Dims > >

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-10-12 08:35:20 -0700: > Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Clint Byrum wrote: > >> Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-10-10 17:43:40 -0700: > >>> I'm curious is there any more detail about #1 below anywhere online? >

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2015-10-11 01:14:08 -0700: > Clint, > > There are many PROS and CONS in both of approaches. > > Reinventing wheel (in this case it's quite simple task) and it gives more > flexibility and doesn't require > usage of ZK/Consul (which will simplify

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] service catalog: TNG

2015-10-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2015-10-09 14:00:40 -0700: > On 10/09/2015 02:52 PM, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 02:17:26PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: > > :On 10/09/2015 01:39 PM, David Stanek wrote: > > :> > > :>On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Jonathan D. Proulx

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2015-10-13 06:13:32 -0700: > On 2015-10-12 20:49:44 -0700 (-0700), Joshua Harlow wrote: > > Does the openstack foundation have access to a scaling area that > > can be used by the community for this kind of experimental work? > > The OpenStack Foundation

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Wells's message of 2015-10-13 09:24:42 -0700: > On 12 October 2015 at 21:18, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > We _would_ keep a local cache of the information in the schedulers. The > > centralized copy of it is to free the schedulers from the

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dulko, Michal's message of 2015-10-13 03:49:44 -0700: > On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 10:13 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Zookeeper sits in a very different space from Cassandra. I have had good > > success with it on OpenJDK as well. > > > > That said, we ne

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2015-10-08 23:52:41 -0700: > On 10/08/2015 01:37 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Maish Saidel-Keesing's message of 2015-10-08 00:14:55 -0700: > >> Forgive the top-post. > >> > >> Cross-posting to openstack-

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] service catalog: TNG

2015-10-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-10-09 09:51:55 -0700: > On 10/09/2015 12:28 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 10/09/2015 11:21 AM, Shamail wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >>> > >>> It looks like some great conversation got going on

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2015-10-09 10:54:36 -0700: > On 10/09/2015 11:09 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: > > > The optimal way to do this would be a weighted random selection, where the > > probability of any given host being selected is proportional to its > > weighting. > > (Obviously

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Wells's message of 2015-10-12 19:43:48 -0700: > On 11 October 2015 at 00:23, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > I'm in, except I think this gets simpler with an intermediary service > > like ZK/Consul to keep track of this 1GB of data and re

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Re: New API for node create, specifying initial provision state

2015-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Lucas Alvares Gomes's message of 2015-08-27 02:40:26 -0700: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Julia Kreger juliaashleykre...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies for not expressing my thoughts on this matter sooner, however I've had to spend some time collecting my thoughts. To

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] convergence rally test results (so far)

2015-09-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anant Patil's message of 2015-08-30 23:01:29 -0700: > Hi Angus, > > Thanks for doing the tests with convergence. We are now assured that > convergence has not impacted the performance in a negative way. Given > that, in convergence, a stack provisioning process goes through a lot of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] cloud-init IPv6 support

2015-09-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nir Yechiel's message of 2014-07-07 09:15:09 -0700: > AFAIK, the cloud-init metadata service can currently be accessed only by > sending a request to http://169.254.169.254, and no IPv6 equivalent is > currently implemented. Does anyone working on this or tried to address this >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] cloud-init IPv6 support

2015-09-08 Thread Clint Byrum
of these private networks only to the places where the cloud operator has services running. Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2015-09-08 14:44:35 -0700: > How does that work with neutron private networks? > > Thanks, > Kevin > ____ > Fro

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-09-14 12:51:24 -0700: > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2015-09-14 14:41:00 +0200: > > On 14/09/15 08:10 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > >After having some conversations with folks at the Ops Midcycle a > > >few weeks ago, and observing

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-09-14 13:46:16 -0700: > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-09-14 13:25:43 -0700: > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-09-14 12:51:24 -0700: > > > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2015-09-14 14:41:00 +0200: > > > > On

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zmq]

2015-09-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from ozamiatin's message of 2015-09-16 08:24:53 -0700: > Hi All, > > I'm excited to report that today we have merged [1] new zmq driver into > oslo.messaging master branch. > The driver is not completely done yet, so we are going to continue > developing it on the master branch now. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] service default value functions

2015-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alex Schultz's message of 2015-09-16 09:53:10 -0700: > Hey puppet folks, > > Based on the meeting yesterday[0], I had proposed creating a parser > function called is_service_default[1] to validate if a variable matched our > agreed upon value of ''. This got me thinking about how >

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-ansible] Security hardening

2015-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Major Hayden's message of 2015-09-10 09:33:27 -0700: > Hash: SHA256 > > On 09/10/2015 11:22 AM, Matthew Thode wrote: > > Sane defaults can't be used? The two bugs you listed look fine to me as > > default things to do. > > Thanks, Matthew. I tend to agree. > > I'm wondering if

[openstack-dev] [election] [tc] TC candidacy -- Let's do this

2015-09-28 Thread Clint Byrum
ese things even more. Thank you for your time! Clint Byrum IBM __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] -1 due to line length violation in commit messages

2015-09-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kevin Benton's message of 2015-09-28 14:29:14 -0700: > I think a blanket statement about what people's motivations are is not > fair. We've seen in this thread that some people want to enforce the limit > of 72 chars and it's not about padding their stats. > > The issue here is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] -1 due to line length violation in commit messages

2015-09-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-09-26 23:36:09 -0700: > As a core (and former PTL) I just ignored commit message -1s unless there is > something majorly wrong (no bug id where one is needed, etc). > > I appreciate well formatted commits, but can we let this one go? This >

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Convergence: Detecting and handling worker failures

2015-09-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anant Patil's message of 2015-09-30 00:10:52 -0700: > Hi, > > One of remaining items in convergence is detecting and handling engine > (the engine worker) failures, and here are my thoughts. > > Background: Since the work is distributed among heat engines, by some > means heat

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