Re: [openstack-dev] [Large Deployments Team][Performance Team] New informal working group suggestion

2015-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dina Belova's message of 2015-09-22 05:57:19 -0700: > Hey, OpenStackers! > > I'm writing to propose to organise new informal team to work specifically > on the OpenStack performance issues. This will be a sub team in already > existing Large Deployments Team, and I suppose it will

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Auth_version from 'old style' URLs in the database

2015-12-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2015-12-04 07:00:53 -0800: > On 03/12/15 16:24 +, Bunting, Niall wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Currently glance will use an auth_url if in the database. Eg. > >10.0.0.8:5000/v2.0 > > > >However glance currently takes the auth_version from the config > >files.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [nova] [openstack-operators] Tools to move instances between projects?

2015-12-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2015-12-02 15:43:13 -0800: > I can describe our specific uses cases, not sure our same limitations apply > to everyone. > > Every developer in our company has a project created for them (user-username) > they are allowed to spinup 5 vm's in this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Performance][Proposal] Moving IRC meeting from 15:00 UTC to 16:00 UTC

2015-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dina Belova's message of 2015-12-04 01:46:06 -0800: > Dear performance folks, > > There is a suggestion to move our meeting time from 15:00 UTC (Tuesdays > ) to > 16:00 UTC (also Tuesdays >

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][tripleo] User Initiated Rollback

2015-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Zane I want to echo your sentiments exactly below. I agree with all of the things basically. The only thing I'd add is that no matter how good you make Heat's rollback API, it will never be as good as git. So I would suggest that you just have people roll forward from Heat's perspective, and let

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [openstack-operators] Tools to move instances between projects?

2015-12-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2015-12-02 12:52:10 -0800: > Hello, > > I was wondering if someone has a set of tools/code to work allow admins to > move vm's from one tenant to another? We get asked this fairly frequently in > our internal cloud (atleast once a week, more when we

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][all] The lock files saga (and where we can go from here)

2015-12-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-12-01 09:28:18 -0800: > Sean Dague wrote: > > On 12/01/2015 08:08 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: > >> > >> On 1 December 2015 at 13:40, Sean Dague >> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> The current approach means locks block

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][DIB] diskimage-builder and python 2/3 compatibility

2015-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2015-12-09 12:49:07 -0800: > Excerpts from Ian Wienand's message of 2015-12-09 09:35:15 +: > > On 12/09/2015 07:15 AM, Gregory Haynes wrote: > > > We ran in to a couple issues adding Fedora 23 support to > > > diskimage-builder caused by python2 not

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg: Blueprint -- add-compute-node-on-the-go

2015-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Atul Ag's message of 2015-12-10 06:50:05 -0800: > Hi, > > I have added the blue print > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-compute-node-on-the-go. > Can you please let me know the feasibility, and accept the blueprint. > Hi Atul, welcome, and thanks for your

Re: [openstack-dev] [mistral] bugfix for "Fix concurrency issues by using READ_COMMITTED" unveils / creates a different bug

2015-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from ELISHA, Moshe (Moshe)'s message of 2015-12-07 08:29:44 -0800: > Hi all, > > The current bugfix I am working on[1] have unveiled / created a bug. > Test "WorkflowResumeTest.test_resume_different_task_states" sometimes fails > because "task4" is executed twice instead of once (See

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][magnum] Quota for Magnum Resources

2015-12-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2015-12-16 12:19:59 -0800: > keypairs are real though. they consume database resource at the moment. You > don't want a user blowing out your db. Quota's should be for things that ops > will get sad over, if the users consume too many of them. > Limit

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Status of the Support Conditionals in Heat templates

2015-12-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2015-12-15 09:07:02 -0800: > My $0.02: > > heat as it is today, requires all users to be devops, and to carefully craft > the templates launched specific to the cloud and the particular app they are > trying to write. Making sharing code between heat

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic][neutron][keystone] how to reauth the token

2015-12-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Pavlo Shchelokovskyy's message of 2015-12-16 07:59:42 -0800: > Hi all, > > I'd like to start discussion on how Ironic is using Neutron when Keystone > is involved. > > Recently the patch [0] was merged in Ironic to fix a bug when the token > with which to create the neutronclient

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [Nova] continuing the "multiple compute host" discussion

2015-12-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jim Rollenhagen's message of 2015-12-16 08:03:22 -0800: > Nobody is talking about running a compute per flavor or capability. All > compute hosts will be able to handle all ironic nodes. We *do* still > need to figure out how to handle availability zones or host aggregates, > but I

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][magnum] Quota for Magnum Resources

2015-12-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2015-12-16 12:35:10 -0800: > Clint, > > > On Dec 16, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch> wrote: > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][magnum] Quota for Magnum Resources

2015-12-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2015-12-16 16:56:39 -0800: > Clint, > > I think you are categorically dismissing a very real ops challenge of how to > set correct system limits, and how to adjust them in a running system. I have > been stung by this challenge repeatedly over the years.

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][magnum] Quota for Magnum Resources

2015-12-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2015-12-16 16:05:29 -0800: > Yeah, as an op, I've run into a few things that need quota's that just have > basically hardcoded values. heat stacks for example. its a single global in > /etc/heat/heat.conf:max_stacks_per_tenant=100. Instead of being able to

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][magnum] Quota for Magnum Resources

2015-12-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi! Can I offer a counter point? Quotas are for _real_ resources. Memory, CPU, disk, bandwidth. These are all _closely_ tied to things that cost real money and cannot be conjured from thin air. As such, the user being able to allocate 1 billion or 2 containers is not limited by Magnum, but by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Status of the Support Conditionals in Heat templates

2015-12-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2015-12-15 17:21:13 -0800: > the one thing as an Op I'd like to see avoided is having the template > language be Turing complete. When I'm provisioning heat-engines its much > easier if you know how many you need when the user can't force them to spin >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [Nova] continuing the "multiple compute host" discussion

2015-12-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Penick's message of 2015-12-15 17:19:19 -0800: > > getting rid of the raciness of ClusteredComputeManager in my > >current deployment. And I'm willing to help other operators do the same. > > You do alleviate race, but at the cost of complexity and > unpredictability.

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Client checking of server version

2016-01-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Dobies's message of 2016-01-04 12:53:07 -0800: > I ran into an issue in a review about moving environment resolution from > client to server [1]. It revolves around clients being able to access > older versions of servers (that's a pretty simplistic description; see > [2] for

Re: [openstack-dev] How to add feature to diskimage-builder

2015-12-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from George Shuklin's message of 2015-12-29 09:16:52 -0800: > Hello. > > I'm trying add a small feature to one of the elements in > diskimage-builder (https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/pull/10/) > > I have experience with gerrit and openstack bugfix workflow, but I have >

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova scheduler startup when database is not available

2015-12-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2015-12-23 10:32:27 -0800: > On 12/23/2015 12:27 PM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: > > I've been looking into the startup constraints involved when launching > > Nova services with systemd using Type=notify (which causes systemd to > > wait for an explicit

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova scheduler startup when database is not available

2015-12-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2015-12-28 09:45:39 -0800: > On 12/24/2015 02:30 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > This is entirely philosophical, but we should think about when it is > > appropriate to adopt which mode of operation. > > > > There are basically two ways

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Move from active distrusting model to trusting model

2015-11-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-11-23 09:17:06 -0800: > Morgan Fainberg wrote: > > [...] > > With all that said, here is the proposal I would like to set forth: > > > > 1. Code reviews still need 2x Core Reviewers (no change) > > 2. Code can be developed by a member of the same

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][all] The lock files saga (and where we can go from here)

2015-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-11-30 10:42:53 -0800: > Hi all, > > I just wanted to bring up an issue, possible solution and get feedback > on it from folks because it seems to be an on-going problem that shows > up not when an application is initially deployed but as on-going >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][all] The lock files saga (and where we can go from here)

2015-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2015-11-30 13:22:23 -0800: > On 11/30/2015 02:15 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 11/30/2015 03:01 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > >> On 1 December 2015 at 08:37, Ben Nemec wrote: > >>> On 11/30/2015 12:42 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > Hi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FKs in the DB

2015-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Bayer's message of 2015-11-20 11:29:31 -0800: > > On 11/20/2015 11:19 AM, Alexis Lee wrote: > > We just had a fun discussion in IRC about whether foreign keys are evil. > > Initially I thought this was crazy but mordred made some good points. To > > paraphrase, that if you have

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FKs in the DB

2015-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2015-11-20 10:58:55 -0800: > > On 11/20/2015 10:19 AM, Alexis Lee wrote: > > We just had a fun discussion in IRC about whether foreign keys are evil. > > Initially I thought this was crazy but mordred made some good points. To > > paraphrase, that if you

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack-Announce List

2015-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tom Fifield's message of 2015-11-19 20:00:20 -0800: > Hi all, > > I'd like to get your thoughts about the OpenStack-Announce list. > > We describe the list as: > > """ > Subscribe to this list to receive important announcements from the > OpenStack Release Team and OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Move from active distrusting model to trusting model

2015-11-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from David Chadwick's message of 2015-11-23 13:20:56 -0800: > Since the ultimate arbiter is the PTL, then it would be wrong to allow > members of the same organisation as the PTL to perform all three code > functions without the input of anyone from any other organisation. This > places

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Move from active distrusting model to trusting model

2015-11-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Brad Topol's message of 2015-11-23 13:38:34 -0800: > So to avoid the perception of a single company owning a piece of code, at > IBM our policy for major projects like Cinder, Nova and currently many > parts of Keystone (except pycadf) is to make sure we do not do the > following

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Move from active distrusting model to trusting model

2015-11-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-23 20:21:47 -0800: > On 11/23/2015 11:42 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > This email is being written in the context of Keystone more than any > > other project but I strongly believe that other projects could benefit > > from a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FKs in the DB

2015-11-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Bayer's message of 2015-11-22 11:59:06 -0800: > > On 11/20/2015 04:33 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Mike Bayer's message of 2015-11-20 11:29:31 -0800: > >> > >> On 11/20/2015 11:19 AM, Alexis Lee wrote: > >>> We just had a f

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-07 08:46:28 -0700: > Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: > >> Hi ironic folks, > >> As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the &

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Incorporating performance feedback into the review process

2016-06-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Brant Knudson's message of 2016-06-03 15:16:20 -0500: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Lance Bragstad wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > I have been curious about impact of providing performance feedback as part > > of the review process. From what I understand,

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Changing the project name uniqueness constraint

2016-06-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Henry Nash's message of 2016-06-10 14:37:37 +0100: > On further reflection, it seems to me that we can never simply enable either > of these approaches in a single release. Even a v4.0 version of the API > doesn’t help - since presumably a sever supporting v4 would want to be able

Re: [openstack-dev] Reasoning behind my vote on the Go topic

2016-06-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Barton's message of 2016-06-09 14:01:11 -0500: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Ben Meyer wrote: > > > > > uvloop (first commit 2015-11-01) is newer than Swift's hummingbird > > (2015-04-20, based on > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] Reasoning behind my vote on the Go topic

2016-06-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Barton's message of 2016-06-09 15:59:24 -0500: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > > Agreed it isn't done in uvloop. But it is done in libuv and the uvloop > > devs agree it should be done. So this

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic][neutron] bonding?

2016-05-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jim Rollenhagen's message of 2016-05-24 07:51:21 -0400: > Hi, > > There's rumors floating around about Neutron having a bonding model in > the near future. Are there any solid plans for that? > > For context, as part of the multitenant networking work, ironic has a > portgroup

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Changing the project name uniqueness constraint

2016-06-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2016-06-13 20:11:57 +: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:20 PM Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > Excerpts from Henry Nash's message of 2016-06-10 14:37:37 +0100: > > > On further reflection, it seems to me that

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] using ironic as a replacement for existing datacenter baremetal provisioning

2016-06-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kris G. Lindgren's message of 2016-06-06 20:44:26 +: > Hi ironic folks, > As I'm trying to explore how GoDaddy can use ironic I've created the > following in an attempt to document some of my concerns, and I'm wondering if > you folks could help myself identity ongoing work to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][diskimage-builder] Proposing Stephane Miller to dib-core

2016-06-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2016-06-01 12:50:19 -0500: > Hello everyone, > > I'd like to propose adding Stephane Miller (cinerama) to the > diskimage-builder core team. She has been a huge help with our reviews > for some time now and I think she would make a great addition to our >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] I'm going to expire open bug reports older than 18 months.

2016-05-30 Thread Clint Byrum
(Top posting as a general reply to the thread) Bugs are precious data. As much as it feels like the bug list is full of cruft that won't ever get touched, one thing that we might be missing in doing this is that the user who encounters the bug and takes the time to actually find the bug tracker

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2016-06-22 13:15:03 +: > Clint, > > In your original email, you proposed "So, with that, I'd like to propose the > creation of an Architecture Working Group. This group's charge would not be > design by committee, but a place for architects to share

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Dent's message of 2016-06-21 09:25:44 +0100: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Doug Wiegley wrote: > > > So, it sounds like you’ve just described the job of the TC. And they > > have so far refused to define OpenStack, leading to a series of > > derivative decisions that seem …

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Placement API WSGI code -- let's just use flask

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2016-06-21 09:10:00 -0400: > The amount of wsgi glue above Routes / Paste is pretty minimal (after > you get rid of all the extensions facilities). > > Templating and Session handling are things we don't need. We're not a > webapp, we're a REST service.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Placement API WSGI code -- let's just use flask

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2016-06-21 08:00:50 -0400: > On 06/21/2016 07:39 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > On 06/21/2016 05:43 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > >> Le 21/06/2016 10:04, Chris Dent a écrit : > >>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Jay Pipes wrote: > >>> > Flask seems to be the most widely

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
; Date: June 21, 2016 at 10:18:25 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:59 AM Clint Byrum wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-06-21 12:47:46 -0400: > On 06/21/2016 04:25 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > > However, I worry deeply that it could become astronauts with finger > > paints. > > Yes. This. > > I will happily take software design suggestions from people that > demonstrate with

Re: [openstack-dev] [diskimage-builder] ERROR: embedding is not possible, but this is required for cross-disk install

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-06-21 14:20:07 -0400: > On 06/21/2016 02:01 PM, Andre Florath wrote: > > Hello Jay, > > > > Yes - the partition alignment is a problem: > > grub2 needs at least 63 blocks between the MBR and the first > > partition. Here for you the partition directly

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-06-21 13:29:32 -0400: > On 06/21/2016 12:53 PM, Doug Wiegley wrote: > > Don’t get me wrong, I welcome this initiative. I find it mildly > > disconcerting that the folks that I thought we were electing to fill > > this role will instead be filled by others,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] ability to set metadata on instances (but config drive is not updated)

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2016-06-21 15:12:09 -0700: > Agreed, it appears supported right-now (whether intentional or not), > > So the question at that point is what can we do to make it better... > > I think we all agree that the config-drive probably shouldn't have the >

[openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
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Re: [openstack-dev] Version header for OpenStack microversion support

2016-06-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Henry Nash's message of 2016-06-18 13:14:17 +0100: > > On 18 Jun 2016, at 11:32, Jamie Lennox wrote: > > > > Quick question: why do we need the service type or name in there? You > > really should know what API you're talking to already and it's just > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jesse Cook's message of 2016-06-20 16:58:48 +: > +1 > > The points about the PWG and TC are worth some consideration. > > From my perspective, I think it would make sense for the PWG to define the > expected behaviors of the system, which would be an input to the > architecture

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Krotscheck's message of 2016-06-20 15:26:20 +: > I like the idea in principle, but am bullish on the implementation. > As you should be, and we all must be. It's not going to happen if we just dream it. That's kind of the point. Let's write down a design _for the group

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2016-06-20 10:40:56 -0600: > So, it sounds like you’ve just described the job of the TC. And they have so > far refused to define OpenStack, leading to a series of derivative decisions > that seem … inconsistent over time. > > How is this body going to be

Re: [openstack-dev] Version header for OpenStack microversion support

2016-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Edward Leafe's message of 2016-06-20 20:41:56 -0500: > On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > Whatever API version is used behind the compute API is none of the user's > > business. > > Actually, yeah, it is. &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
p://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/chronicles-of-a-dlm.html > -Josh > > Clint Byrum wrote: > > ar·chi·tec·ture > > ˈärkəˌtek(t)SHər/ > > noun > > noun: architecture > > > > 1. > > > > the art or practice of d

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Status of the OpenStack port to Python 3

2016-06-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2016-06-24 10:13:37 +: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:d...@doughellmann.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:16 PM > > To: openstack-dev > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all]

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: Architecture Working Group

2016-06-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zhipeng Huang's message of 2016-06-24 18:15:30 +0200: > Hi Clint and Amrith, > > Are you guys already working on the proposal ? Is there any public access > to see the first draft ? > I've started writing something up, and I hope to submit it for review next week.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] what do you work on upstream of OpenStack?

2016-06-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2016-06-23 08:37:04 -0400: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2016-06-13 15:11:17 -0400: > > I'm trying to pull together some information about contributions > > that OpenStack community members have made *upstream* of OpenStack, > > via code, docs,

Re: [openstack-dev] Service password storage

2016-01-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Levin's message of 2016-01-11 02:37:09 -0800: > Dear openstack developers, > I installed openstack via devstack recently, and I found out that the > admin passwords for services like cinder and nova are stored in plain > text in their /etc/*/*.conf files. These files are rw--r--r--

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

2016-01-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-01-16 22:36:23 -0800: > On 01/16/2016 10:16 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2016-01-16 12:14:20 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > > [...] > >> I've just asked this very point with the same example to the FTP > >> masters. Let's see what they

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Proposed TripleO core changes

2016-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2016-06-09 15:03:51 +0100: > Also, while reviewing the core group[2] I noticed the following members who > are no longer active and should probably be removed: > > - Radomir Dopieralski > - Martyn Taylor > - Clint Byrum > > I know

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] "No Open Core" in 2016

2016-02-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-02-10 08:35:19 -0800: > Chris Dent wrote: > > [...] > > Observing this thread and "the trouble with names"[1] one I get > > concerned that we're trending in the direction of expecting > > projects/servers/APIs to be done and perfect before they will

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] RFC dropping largeops tests

2016-02-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2016-02-10 04:33:44 -0800: > The largeops tests at this point are mostly finding out that some of our > new cloud providers are slow - http://tinyurl.com/j5u4nf5 > > This is fundamentally a performance test, with timings having been tuned > to pass 98% of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [docs][all] Software design in openstack

2016-02-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nick Yeates's message of 2016-02-03 21:18:08 -0800: > Josh, thanks for pointing this out and in being hospitable to an outsider. > > Oslo is definitely some of what I was looking for. As you stated, the fact > that there is an extensive review system with high participation, that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Update on scheduler and resource tracker progress

2016-02-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-02-11 12:24:04 -0800: > Hello all, > > Performance working group, please pay attention to Chapter 2 in the > details section. > > Chapter 2 - Addressing performance and scale > > > One of the significant

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] convergence cancel messages

2016-02-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anant Patil's message of 2016-02-24 00:56:34 -0800: > On 24-Feb-16 13:12, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Anant Patil's message of 2016-02-23 23:08:31 -0800: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I would like the discuss various approaches towards fixing bug >

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] convergence cancel messages

2016-02-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anant Patil's message of 2016-02-23 23:08:31 -0800: > Hi, > > I would like the discuss various approaches towards fixing bug > https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533176 > > When convergence is on, and if the stack is stuck, there is no way to > cancel the existing request. This feature

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] convergence cancel messages

2016-02-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anant Patil's message of 2016-02-23 23:08:31 -0800: > Hi, > > I would like the discuss various approaches towards fixing bug > https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533176 > > When convergence is on, and if the stack is stuck, there is no way to > cancel the existing request. This feature

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A prototype implementation towards the "shared state scheduler"

2016-02-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-02-23 16:10:46 -0800: > On 02/22/2016 04:23 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > I won't argue against performance here. You made a very nice PoC for > > testing scaling DB writes within a single python process and I trust > > your findings. While I would be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A proposal to separate the design summit

2016-02-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Eoghan Glynn's message of 2016-02-22 15:06:01 -0800: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > TL;DR: Let's split the events, starting after Barcelona. > > > > Long long version: > > > > In a global and virtual community, high-bandwidth face-to-face time is > > essential. This is why we made

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A proposal to separate the design summit

2016-02-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean McGinnis's message of 2016-02-22 11:48:50 -0800: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 05:20:21PM +, Amrith Kumar wrote: > > Thierry and all of those who contributed to putting together this write-up, > > thank you very much. > > > > TL;DR: +0 > > > > Longer version: > > > > While I

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Should we have a TripleO API, or simply use Mistral?

2016-01-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jiri Tomasek's message of 2016-01-25 06:09:33 -0800: > On 01/25/2016 12:42 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2016-01-22 16:19:07 -0800: > >> On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 11:24 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: > >>> So I haven't weighed in

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][ironic][cinder][nova] 'tar' as an image disk_format

2016-01-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Brian Rosmaita's message of 2016-01-23 06:54:26 -0800: > Please provide feedback about a proposal to add 'tar' as a new Glance > disk_format.[0] > > The Ironic team is adding support for "OS tarball images" in Mitaka. This is > a compressed tar archive of a / (root filesystem).

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Should we have a TripleO API, or simply use Mistral?

2016-01-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2016-01-22 16:19:07 -0800: > On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 11:24 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: > > So I haven't weighed in on this yet, in part because I was on > > vacation > > when it was first proposed and missed a lot of the initial > > discussion, > > and also because

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Should we signal backwards incompatible changes in microversions?

2016-02-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Andrew Laski's message of 2016-02-16 06:34:53 -0800: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016, at 07:54 AM, Alex Xu wrote: > > > > > > 2016-02-16 19:53 GMT+08:00 Sean Dague : > >> On 02/12/2016 03:55 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: > >> > > Starting a new thread to continue a thought that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A prototype implementation towards the "shared state scheduler"

2016-02-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Cheng, Yingxin's message of 2016-02-14 21:21:28 -0800: > Hi, > > I've uploaded a prototype https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280047/ to testify > its design goals in accuracy, performance, reliability and compatibility > improvements. It will also be an Austin Summit Session if

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Update on scheduler and resource tracker progress

2016-02-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-02-18 11:33:04 -0800: > On 02/12/2016 01:47 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-02-11 12:24:04 -0800: > >> Hello all, > >> > >> Performance working group, please pay attention to C

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] [trove] gate jobs failing with ovh apt mirrors

2016-02-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Craig Vyvial's message of 2016-02-11 07:43:40 -0800: > Jeremy, > > Thanks for looking at this. That makes sense but I'm not sure how to > resolve this issue with the current diskimage-builder elements. If anyone > has ideas it would be greatly appreciated. > Any job using these

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A proposal to separate the design summit

2016-03-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Eoghan Glynn's message of 2016-03-01 02:08:00 -0800: > > > > Current thinking would be to give preferential rates to access the > > > main > > > summit to people who are present to other events (like this new > > > separated contributors-oriented event, or Ops

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][glance] Proposal to remove `nova image-*` commands from novaclient

2016-04-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nikhil Komawar's message of 2016-04-06 10:46:28 -0700: > Need a inline clarification. > > On 4/6/16 10:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > > On 06/04/16 08:26 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 04/06/2016 04:13 AM, Markus Zoeller wrote: > >>> +1 for deprecation and removal > >>> > >>> To

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] FreeIPA integration

2016-04-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2016-04-05 19:02:58 -0700: > On 04/05/2016 11:42 AM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > > Yeah, and they just deprecated vendor data plugins too, which > > eliminates my other workaround. :/ > > > > We need to really discuss this problem at the summit and get a viable >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][stackalytics] Gaming the Stackalytics stats

2016-04-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2016-04-10 16:47:28 -0700: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-04-09 06:42:54 -0700: > > > There is also disincentive in +1ing a chang

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][stackalytics] Gaming the Stackalytics stats

2016-04-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-04-09 06:42:54 -0700: > There is also disincentive in +1ing a change that you don't understand > and is wrong and then a core comes along and -1s it (you get dinged for > the disagreement). And there is disincentive in -1ing a change for the >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are we ready?

2016-03-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Samuel Bercovici's message of 2016-03-02 07:06:30 -0800: > 2. HEAT Support - will it be ready in Mitaka? Side note, please remember, Heat is not an acronym. __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum][keystone][all] Using Keystone /v3/credentials to store TLS certificates

2016-04-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Douglas Mendizábal's message of 2016-04-13 10:01:21 -0700: > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi Reza, > > The Barbican team has already abstracted python-barbicanclient into a > general purpose key-storage library called Castellan [1] > > There are a few OpenStack projects that have planned to

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum][keystone][all] Using Keystone /v3/credentials to store TLS certificates

2016-04-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clayton O'Neill's message of 2016-04-13 07:37:16 -0700: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:26 AM, rezroo wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > > > I understand that this is how it is now. My question is how bad would it be > > to wrap the Barbican client library calls in another

Re: [openstack-dev] Summit Core Party after Austin

2016-04-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-04-21 09:22:53 -0700: > Michael Krotscheck wrote: > > So, HPE is seeking sponsors to continue the core party. The reasons are > > varied - internal sponsors have moved to other projects, the Big Tent > > has drastically increased the # of cores, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed Database

2016-04-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-04-29 05:38:17 -0700: > > So, we're all here in person this week (with 1 day left). The Nova team > has a meetup session all day (Salon A in the Hilton). Clint/Ed, can you > guys show up to that and bring these issues up in person so we can >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed Database

2016-04-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Andrew Laski's message of 2016-04-22 14:32:59 -0700: > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016, at 04:27 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > OK, so I know that Friday afternoons are usually the worst times to > > write a blog post and start an email discussion, and that the Friday > > immediately before a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel][MySQL][DLM][Oslo][DB][Trove][Galera][operators] Multi-master writes look OK, OCF RA and more things

2016-04-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Roman Podoliaka's message of 2016-04-29 12:04:49 -0700: > Hi Bogdan, > > Thank you for sharing this! I'll need to familiarize myself with this > Jepsen thing, but overall it looks interesting. > > As it turns out, we already run Galera in multi-writer mode in Fuel > unintentionally

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed Database

2016-04-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-04-28 13:09:29 -0500: > On 04/28/2016 08:44 AM, Edward Leafe wrote: > > On Apr 24, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Robert Collins > > wrote: > >> For instance, the things I think are essential for a distributed > >> database based datastore:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed Database

2016-04-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Bayer's message of 2016-04-28 22:16:54 -0500: > > On 04/28/2016 08:25 PM, Edward Leafe wrote: > > > Your own tests showed that a single RDBMS instance doesn’t even break a > > sweat > > under your test loads. I don’t see why we need to shard it in the first > > place,

Re: [openstack-dev] Summit Core Party after Austin

2016-04-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chivers, Doug's message of 2016-04-22 10:17:45 -0700: > The Vancouver core party was a fantastic opportunity to meet some very smart > people and learn a lot about the projects they worked on. It was probably one > of the most useful parts of the summit, certainly more so than the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] supporting Go

2016-05-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-05-20 12:42:09 +0200: > On 05/11/2016 04:17 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: > > The big difference with Go here is that the dependency work happens at > > build time, not deploy/runtime in most cases. That shifts much of the > > burden to people

Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: [Heat][Glance] Can't migrate to glance v2 completely

2016-05-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Erno Kuvaja's message of 2016-05-20 13:20:11 +0100: > > The only reliable way to create Glance images for consumption in general > manner is to make sure that we use the normal workflows (currently > uploading the image to Glance and in future the supported manners of Image >

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