Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Domain Model Locations

2014-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 20:59 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-01-12 11:40:41 -0800: On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 10:28 -0500, Jay Dobies wrote: So, it's not as simple as it may initially seem :) Ah, I should have been clearer in my statement - my

Re: [openstack-dev] [ ceilometer] The Pagination patches

2014-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
the primary key column(s) to the sort keys. I'll review your latest patches later today (currently up in Montreal at the Neutron/Tempest QA code sprint, so a little delayed...) Best, -jay --fengqian -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Relationship between Neutron LBaaS and Libra

2014-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 14:34 +0100, Thomas Herve wrote: Hi all, I've been looking at Neutron default LBaaS provider using haproxy, and while it's working nicely, it seems to have several shortcomings in terms of scalability and high availability. The Libra project seems to offer a more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Relationship between Neutron LBaaS and Libra

2014-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 17:03 +, Andrew Hutchings wrote: On 17 Jan 2014, at 16:10, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 14:34 +0100, Thomas Herve wrote: Hi all, I've been looking at Neutron default LBaaS provider using haproxy, and while it's working nicely

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party-testing] Sharing information

2014-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 15:37 +, Sullivan, Jon Paul wrote: From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 10:39 +, Sullivan, Jon Paul wrote: From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@siliconloons.com] FYI, here [1] are the meeting logs from today’s meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Diesel] Proposal for new project

2014-01-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 03:31 +, Raymond, Rob wrote: I would like to gauge interest in a new project named Diesel. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diesel If you are already familiar with Savanna, the best way to describe it is: Savanna is to map reduce applications as Diesel is to web

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Relationship between Neutron LBaaS and Libra

2014-01-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 09:06 +, Andrew Hutchings wrote: On 17 Jan 2014, at 19:53, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 17:03 +, Andrew Hutchings wrote: On 17 Jan 2014, at 16:10, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 14:34 +0100

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Relationship between Neutron LBaaS and Libra

2014-01-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:12 -0800, Alex Freedland wrote: Andrew, Jay and all, Thank you for bringing this topic up. Incidentally, just a month ago at OpenStack Israel I spoke to Monty and other HP folks about getting the Libra initiatives integrated into LBaaS. I am happy that this

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][Neutron][Tempest][Network] Break down NetworkBasicOps to smaller test cases

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 07:17 -0500, Yair Fried wrote: OK, but considering my pending patch (#3 and #4) what about: #1 - #2 #1 - #3 #1 - #4 instead of #1 - #2 - #3 - #4 a failure in #2 will prevent #3 and #4 from running even though they are completely unrelated Seems to me,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Apparently weird timeout issue

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
Sorry for top-posting -- using web mail client. Is it possible to change the retry interval in Cirros (or cloud-init?) so that the backoff is less than 60 seconds? Best, -jay On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Darragh O'Reilly dara2002-openst...@yahoo.com wrote: I did a test to see what the

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: HI Folks, The original (and fairly simple) driver behind whole-host-allocation ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/WholeHostAllocation) was to enable users to get guaranteed isolation for their instances. This then grew

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Third-party drivers and testing

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've been thinking about how we should treat third-party drivers in Ironic for a while, and had several discussions at the Hong Kong summit and last week at LCA. Cinder, Nova, Neutron, and TripleO

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Jay, please be aware of the existence of Climate, which is a Stackforge project for managing dedicated resources (like AWS reserved instances). This is not another API extension, but another API endpoint for creating

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 17:49 +0100, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi Jay, Le 20/01/2014 17:34, Jay Pipes a écrit : On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net wrote: Jay, please be aware of the existence of Climate, which is a Stackforge project

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neturon] firewall_driver and ML2 and vif_security discussion

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 20:43 +0100, Ian Wells wrote: To my mind, it would make that much more sense if Neutron created, networked and firewalled a tap and returned it completely set up (versus now, where the VM can start with a half-configured set of separation and firewall rules that get

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party-testing] Which patchset triggered the test

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 14:26 -0500, Mohammad Banikazemi wrote: Have a question regarding the Jenkins/Gerrit setup for third party testing setups. When Jenkins get triggered by a patchset through the Gerrit trigger plug-in, you can execute a set of shell scripts. How do you get the

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Reseting issues that need attention

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 18:43 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi Sean, I think the following 2 commits in neutron are essential for bringing neutron jobs back to acceptable level of failure rate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67537/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66670/ That second patch

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Reseting issues that need attention

2014-01-20 Thread Jay Pipes
I wasn't saying it was frequent :) Just that it was happening on one of the patches that Eugene said needed to go through :) -jay On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 19:04 -0500, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 18:43

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder unit test failure

2014-01-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 08:29 +0530, iKhan wrote: I am worried which one is better in terms of performance? iniparse or ConfigParser? I am aware iniparse will do a better job of maintaining INI file's structure, but I am more interested in performance. The parsing of INI files is the last

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 11:57 +, Day, Phil wrote: So, I actually don't think the two concepts (reservations and isolated instances) are competing ideas. Isolated instances are actually not reserved. They are simply instances that have a condition placed on their assignment to a

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 14:28 +, Day, Phil wrote: I think there is clear water between this and the existing aggregate based isolation. I also think this is a different use case from reservations. It's *mostly* like a new scheduler hint, but because it has billing impacts I

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 14:21 +, Khanh-Toan Tran wrote: Exactly - that's why I wanted to start this debate about the way forward for the Pcloud Blueprint, which was heading into some kind of middle ground. As per my original post, and it sounds like the three of us are at least

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 13:15 -0500, Dan Prince wrote: - Original Message - From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:45:45 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][Neutron][Tempest][Network] Break down NetworkBasicOps to smaller test cases

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 01:15 -0500, Yair Fried wrote: I seem to be unable to convey my point using generalization, so I will give a specific example: I would like to have update dns server as an additional network scenario. Currently I could add it to the existing module: 1. tests

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 12:12 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-01-22 10:53:14 -0800: On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 13:15 -0500, Dan Prince wrote: - Original Message - From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Changes coming in gate structure

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 15:39 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: snip == Executive Summary == To summarize, the effects of these changes will be: - 1) Decrease the impact of failures resetting the entire gate queue by doing the heavy testing in the

Re: [openstack-dev] Changes coming in gate structure

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 17:59 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/22/2014 05:52 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-01-22 13:43:41 -0800: On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 15:39 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: snip == Executive Summary

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 17:05 +, Day, Phil wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 January 2014 02:01 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds On Tue, 2014-01-21

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][db] Mysql traditional session mode

2014-01-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 11:29 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: A while back a change (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47820/) was made to allow enabling mysql traditional mode, which tightens up mysql's input checking to disallow things like silent truncation of strings that exceed the column's

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance]A question abount the x-image-meta-property parameter.

2014-01-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 18:48 +0800, Fei Long Wang wrote: Hi Wang Hong, Good catch. I think the issue is caused by line 244-246, see https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/common/utils.py#L244 For the case-matter issue, I think it's a bug. But as for the - to _, I would like

Re: [openstack-dev] Fw: [Glance] Is the 'killed' state ever set in v2?

2014-01-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 06:36 -0800, Mark Washenberger wrote: It does not seem very ReSTful--or very usable, for that matter--for a resource to be permanently modified when you a PUT fails. How so? What is not RESTful about changing the status of a resource based on a PUT call? So I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Representing PEM Format file as string

2014-01-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 16:36 -0600, rajesh_moh...@dell.com wrote: I am working on SSL VPN BP. CA certificate is one of the resources. We decided to use PEM formatted certificates. It is multi-line string 1 -BEGIN CERTIFICATE- 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Representing PEM Format file as string

2014-01-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 10:49 -0800, Nachi Ueno wrote: Hi Rajesh May I ask why we need single line representation of PEM format? For CLI, we will use file_name as same as nova keypair-add. We won't specify PEM on the URL. ++ -jay ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 19:06 +, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Joshua Harlow wrote: From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake project/s. Do people find this type of translation useful? It'd

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposed Logging Standards

2014-01-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 08:07 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: Back at the beginning of the cycle, I pushed for the idea of doing some log harmonization, so that the OpenStack logs, across services, made sense. I've pushed a proposed changes to Nova and Keystone over the past couple of days. This is

[openstack-dev] [Fwd: Change in openstack/neutron[master]: Kill dnsmasq and ns-meta softly]

2014-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
This might just be the most creative commit message of the year. -jay ---BeginMessage--- Salvatore Orlando has uploaded a new change for review. Change subject: Kill dnsmasq and ns-meta softly .. Kill dnsmasq and ns-meta softly

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 10:02 -0500, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Yep, although the reason why - that no end-user will know what these terms mean - has never been entirely convincing to me. Well, tenants would never see any of the Tuskar UI, so I don't think we need worry about them. And if a deployer

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposed Logging Standards

2014-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 16:25 -0500, Brad Topol wrote: So we are starting to add more cloud audit (aka CADF) support to OpenStack. We have support in Nova and infrastructure added to Ceilometer and I am starting to add this capability to keystone. This work is based on sending events to

Re: [openstack-dev] Configuration Discovery - Satori

2014-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 22:36 +, Adrian Otto wrote: OpenStack Devs, I'd like to introduce you to a team working on an interesting problem space. We would like to know what you think about Configuration Discovery. We plan to build a tool that aids in the process of automated configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] Configuration Discovery - Satori

2014-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 17:20 -0600, Caleb Groom wrote: On January 28, 2014 at 5:05:56 PM, Jay Pipes (jaypi...@gmail.com) wrote: In the Related Work section, you list: Devstructure Blueprint (https://github.com/devstructure/blueprint) That is precisely what I would recommend. I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How to model resources in Heat

2014-01-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 18:55 -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: I've noticed a few code reviews for new Heat resource types - particularly Neutron resource types - where folks are struggling to find the appropriate way to model the underlying API in Heat. This is a really hard problem, and is often

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How to model resources in Heat

2014-01-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 20:03 -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: On 29/01/14 19:40, Jay Pipes wrote: On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 18:55 -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: I've noticed a few code reviews for new Heat resource types - particularly Neutron resource types - where folks are struggling to find

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bp proposal: libvirt-resize-disk-down

2014-01-30 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 14:59 +, sahid wrote: snip The implementation will be separated in several commits: + Move shared utility methods to a common module: - virt.xenapi.vm_utils._get_partitions to virt.disk.utils.get_partitions - virt.libvirt.utils.copy_image to

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Alembic migrations and absence of DROP column in sqlite

2014-01-30 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 14:51 -0500, Trevor McKay wrote: I was playing with alembic migration and discovered that op.drop_column() doesn't work with sqlite. This is because sqlite doesn't support dropping a column (broken imho, but that's another discussion). Sqlite throws a syntax error.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] massive number of new errors in logs with oslo.messaging

2014-02-02 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, 2014-02-02 at 07:13 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: Just noticed this at the end of a successful run: http://logs.openstack.org/15/63215/13/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/2636cae/console.html#_2014-02-02_12_02_44_422 It looks like the merge of oslo.messaging brings a huge amount of false

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova]improvement-of-accessing-to-glance

2014-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 10:03 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: IMHO, the bit that should really be optimized is the selection of the store nodes where the image should be downloaded from. That is, selecting the nearest location from the image locations and this is something that perhaps should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Solum database schema modification proposal

2014-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 16:22 +, Paul Montgomery wrote: Solum community, I notice that we are using String(36) UUID values in the database schema as primary key for many new tables that we are creating. For example:

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova]improvement-of-accessing-to-glance

2014-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 17:04 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 03/02/14 10:13 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 10:03 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: IMHO, the bit that should really be optimized is the selection of the store nodes where the image should be downloaded from

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova]improvement-of-accessing-to-glance

2014-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 10:59 -0800, Mark Washenberger wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 10:03 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: IMHO, the bit that should really be optimized is the selection

[openstack-dev] [cinder][neutron][nova][3rd party testing] Gerrit Jenkins plugin will not fulfill requirements of 3rd party testing

2014-02-04 Thread Jay Pipes
Sorry for cross-posting to both mailing lists, but there's lots of folks working on setting up third-party testing platforms that are not members of the openstack-infra ML... tl;dr - The third party testing documentation [1] has requirements [2] that include the ability to trigger a recheck

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [cinder][neutron][nova][3rd party testing] Gerrit Jenkins plugin will not fulfill requirements of 3rd party testing

2014-02-05 Thread Jay Pipes
for recheck triggers until that documentation was complete (since most of the vendors I have spoken with have used the Jenkins Gerrit plugin and not Zuul as their triggering agent) Best, -jay On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for cross-posting

Re: [openstack-dev] why do we put a license in every file?

2014-02-05 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 16:29 +, Greg Hill wrote: I'm new, so I'm sure there's some history I'm missing, but I find it bizarre that we have to put the same license into every single file of source code in our projects. Meh, probably just habit and copy/paste behavior. In my past

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 barfs on long URL

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 14:25 +, Matthew Booth wrote: I have a comment which references a long URL. The URL itself is longer than 80 characters. Jenkins has flagged this as a pep8 failure, because the line is longer than 80 characters. This is an instance where in the past I have always

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 barfs on long URL

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 15:36 +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Feb 07 2014, Jay Pipes wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 14:25 +, Matthew Booth wrote: I have a comment which references a long URL. The URL itself is longer than 80 characters. Jenkins has flagged this as a pep8 failure

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 barfs on long URL

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 14:25 +, Matthew Booth wrote: I have a comment which references a long URL. The URL itself is longer than 80 characters. Jenkins has flagged this as a pep8 failure, because the line is longer than 80 characters. This is an instance where in the past I have always

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tempest][Glance] Bogus Glance service and endpoint required for Tempest?

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 12:01 -0700, Brian C Thornock wrote: We are currently developing towards an OpenStack deployment of just Keystone and Swift. Tempest would not run. We added a bogus Glance entry to the service catalog with a corresponding bogus Glance endpoint, and voila, Tempest ran and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Possible Hyper-V false CI failures

2014-02-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, 2014-02-09 at 18:17 -0700, Christopher Yeoh wrote: Hi, I think the hyper-v CI system is sometimes failing with this message incorrectly: This change was unable to be automatically merged with the current state of the repository. Please rebase your change and upload a new

Re: [openstack-dev] bad default values in conf files

2014-02-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:38 -0500, David Kranz wrote: I was recently bitten by a case where some defaults in keystone.conf were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were not providing better values https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064061. Since there are

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][neutron][nova][3rd party testing] Gerrit Jenkins plugin will not fulfill requirements of 3rd party testing

2014-02-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 12:34 -0800, Sukhdev Kapur wrote: Jay, Just an FYI. We have modified the Gerrit plugin it accept/match regex to generate notifications of for receck no bug/bug ###. It turned out to be very simple fix and we (Arista Testing) is now triggering on recheck comments as

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [cinder][neutron][nova][3rd party testing] Gerrit Jenkins plugin will not fulfill requirements of 3rd party testing

2014-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
of a Jenkins master, Zuul, and Jenkins Job Builder and testing communication with upstream: http://www.joinfu.com/2014/02/setting-up-an-external-openstack-testing-system/ Feedback very much welcomed. Working on the slave setup article now... Best, -jay On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Jay Pipes

Re: [openstack-dev] bad default values in conf files

2014-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 11:30 -0800, Greg C wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:38 AM, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com wrote: Defaults in conf files seem to be one of the following: - Generic, appropriate for most situations - Appropriate for devstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Question about Zuul's role in Solum

2014-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 00:05 +, Adrian Otto wrote: If they want something more comprehensive, including a full set of open source best practices by default, such as entrance and exit gating, hosted code review and collaboration, It would be really nice to have a full

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Question about Zuul's role in Solum

2014-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 14:18 +0100, Julien Vey wrote: I agree gating is a great feature but it is not useful for every project and as Adrian said, not understood by everyone. I think many Solum users, and PaaS users in general, are single-project/single-build/simple git worklow and do not care

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Question about Zuul's role in Solum

2014-02-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 17:20 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 15 February 2014 14:34, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: I think a lot of projects don't bother to gate, because its far to much work to set up a workable system. I can think of several projects I've worked on that would

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA] Service dependency decorators in tests

2014-02-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 14:33 +, Frittoli, Andrea (Cloud Services) wrote: Hi all, Scenario tests feature service dependency decorators in tests – so that a test will run only if all required components are available. I think we should extend them to all tests, including the API ones.

[openstack-dev] [third party testing] Article series on setting up an external CI system

2014-02-18 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi all, There have been efforts recently by lots of folks, particularly in the Nova, Neutron, and Cinder contributor communities, trying to set up a third-party testing platform that can get notified by the upstream OpenStack CI system, run tests, and post votes on code reviews upstream. Partly

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Cleaning OpenStack resources

2014-02-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 16:15 -0500, David Kranz wrote: I was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73274/1 which makes it configurable whether a brute-force cleanup of resources is done after success. This got my wondering how this should really be done. As admin, there are some

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][neutron] API tests in the Neutron tree

2014-02-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 14:17 -0800, Maru Newby wrote: On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/12/2014 04:25 PM, Maru Newby wrote: On Feb 12, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/12/2014 01:48 PM, Maru Newby wrote: At the last 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Proposal for model change - Multiple services per floating IP

2014-02-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:11 -0800, Stephen Balukoff wrote: * This seems less ambiguous from a terminology perspective. The name 'VIP' in other contexts means 'virtual IP address', which is the same thing as a floating IP, which in other contexts is usually

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 08:22 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: I agree that we shouldn't be rushing something that's not ready, but I guess it raises kind of a meta issue. When we started this journey this was because v2 has a ton of warts, is completely wonky on the code internals, which leads to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object Model discussion

2014-02-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 15:21 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: I agree with Samuel here. I feel the logical model and other issues (implementation etc.) are mixed in the discussion. A little bit. While ideally it's better to separate it, in my opinion we need to have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object Model discussion

2014-02-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 22:58 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi Jay, Just a quick response: The 'implementation detail in API' that we all are arguing about is some hint from the user about how logical configuration is mapped on the backend(s), not much detail IMO. Your proposed model

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Feedback on SSL implementation

2014-02-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 22:01 -0800, Stephen Balukoff wrote: Front-end versus back-end protocols: It's actually really common for a HTTPS-enabled front-end to speak HTTP to the back-end. The assumption here is that the back-end network is trusted and therefore we don't need to bother with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Is there anything blocking the libvirt driver from implementing the host_maintenance_mode API?

2014-02-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, 2014-02-23 at 09:14 +0800, Jay Lau wrote: So there is no need to implement libvirt driver for the host_maintenance_mode API as host_maintenance_mode is mainly for VMWare and XenServer, also we can use evacuate and os-services/disable for libvirt host maintain, right? At a minimum, can

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 17:20 +1030, Christopher Yeoh wrote: - Proposed way forward: - Release the V3 API in Juno with nova-network and tasks support - Feature freeze the V2 API when the V3 API is released - Set the timeline for deprecation of V2 so users have a lot of warning

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron]Do you think tanent_id should be verified

2014-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 16:23 +0800, Lingxian Kong wrote: I think 'tenant_id' should always be validated when creating neutron resources, whether or not Neutron can handle the notifications from Keystone when tenant is deleted. -1 Personally, I think this cross-service request is likely too

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 20:22 +1030, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 02:06:50 -0500 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 17:20 +1030, Christopher Yeoh wrote: - Proposed way forward: - Release the V3 API in Juno with nova-network and tasks support

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object Model discussion

2014-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
Thanks, Eugene! I've given the API a bit of thought today and jotted down some thoughts below. On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 23:57 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Could you provide some examples -- even in the pseudo-CLI commands like I did below. It's really difficult to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 14:01 -0800, Morgan Fainberg wrote: TL;DR, “don’t break the contract”. If we are seriously making incompatible changes (and we will be regardless of the direction) the only reasonable option is a new major version. 100% agreement. Note that when I asked Chris when we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 17:59 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: So we do really need to be pragmatic here as well. Because our experience with v3 so far has been doing a major version bump on Nova is a minimum of 2 years, and that doesn't reach a completion point that anyone's happy with to switch over.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 09:11 +1030, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:48:41 -0500 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about forcing providers to support all of the public API. It's about providing a single, well-documented, consistent HTTP REST API for *consumers

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request: Murano

2014-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 11:24 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark Washenberger wrote: Prior to this email, I was imagining that we would expand the Images program to go beyond storing just block device images, and into more structured items like whole Nova instance templates, Heat templates,

[openstack-dev] [third-party-ci] Proposing a regular workshop/meeting to help folks set up CI environments

2014-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Stackers, I've been contacted by a number of folks with questions about setting up a third-party CI system, and while I'm very happy to help anyone who contacts me, I figured it would be a good idea to have a regular meeting on Google Hangouts that would be used as a QA session or workshop for

[openstack-dev] [third-party-testing] CHANGED TIME and VENUE: Workshop/QA session on third party testing will be on IRC now!

2014-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi again Stackers, After discussions with folks on the infrastructure team, I'm making some changes to the proposed workshop venue and time. As was rightly pointed out by Jim B and others, we want to encourage folks that are setting up their CI systems to use the standard communication tools to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object Model discussion

2014-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
to operate on vips/pools/etc. In this direction we could evolve from existing API to the API in your latest suggestion. Thanks, Eugene. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 11:47 -0800, Morgan Fainberg wrote: For purposes of supporting multiple backends for Identity (multiple LDAP, mix of LDAP and SQL, federation, etc) Keystone is planning to increase the maximum size of the USER_ID field from an upper limit of 64 to an upper limit of 255.

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party-ci] Proposing a regular workshop/meeting to help folks set up CI environments

2014-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 20:02 -0300, Arx Cruz wrote: Hello, Great Idea, I'm very interested! I wasn't able to see the Google Hangout Event, is the url correct? Hi Arx! We changed from Google Hangout to using IRC. See here for more info:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 09:26 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: What I want out of Nova API at the end of the day: 1. a way to discover what the API is because this massively simplifies writing clients, SDKs, tests, and documentation. All those pipelines are terribly manual, and have errors in them

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object Model discussion

2014-02-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 16:11 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: neutron l7-policy-create --type=uri-regex-matching \ --attr=URIRegex=static\.example\.com.* Presume above returns an ID

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party-ci] Proposing a regular workshop/meeting to help folks set up CI environments

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 12:09 +, trinath.soman...@freescale.com wrote: Hi Jay- Rather than March 3rd Can you kindly make it on Feb 28th if possible. Unfortunately, Trinath, I can't make it tomorrow during that time. I can try and be on IRC earlier in the day, though, to help you? I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor Framework

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:11 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi neutron folks, I know that there are patches on gerrit for VPN, FWaaS and L3 services that are leveraging Provider Framework. Recently we've been discussing more comprehensive approach that will allow user to choose service

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor Framework

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 15:12 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:11 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi neutron folks, I know that there are patches on gerrit for VPN, FWaaS and L3 services

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 17:02 -0500, Adam Young wrote: On 02/27/2014 12:52 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 16:13 +, Henry Nash wrote: So a couple of things about this: 1) Today (and also true for Grizzly and Havana), the user can chose what LDAP attribute should

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 00:30 +0100, Monty Taylor wrote: Sorry for the top post. I was asked to look at this thread and toss in my €0.02 but I do not believe I could possibly read this whole thread - I'm too jet lagged. So... As a current large-scale production consumer of the API, I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor Framework

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 17:23 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 15:12 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:11 +0400, Eugene

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Enterprise Ready Features

2014-02-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 18:46 +, Brandon Logan wrote: TL;DR: Are enterprise needed features (HA, scalability, resource management, etc) on this project's roadmap. Yes. Although, due to my disdain for the term enterprise, I'd point out that all of those features are things that most everyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 11:35 +, Day, Phil wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 February 2014 23:49 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API Similarly with a Xen vs KVM

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-02-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 13:10 -0800, Mark Washenberger wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Henry Nash hen...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Hi Mark, So we would not modify any existing IDs, so no migration required. Okay, I just want to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-03-01 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 15:25 -0800, Mark Washenberger wrote: I believe we have some agreement here. Other openstack services should be able to use a strongly typed identifier for users. I just think if we want to go that route, we probably need to create a new field to act as the proper user

[openstack-dev] [Third Party CI] Reminder: Workshop/QA meeting on #openstack-meeting today at 13:00EST/18:00 UTC

2014-03-03 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi all, Just a friendly reminder we will have a workshop and QA meeting on Freeonde #openstack-meeting channel today at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST) for folks interested in setting up or debugging third party CI platforms. See you there! Best, -jay ___

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