Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] How to delete a VM which is in ERROR state?

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Danny Choi (dannchoi) dannc...@cisco.com wrote: Hi, I have a VM which is in ERROR state. +--+--+++-++ | ID

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Max Complexity Check Considered Harmful

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Brant Knudson b...@acm.org wrote: Not too long ago projects added a maximum complexity check to tox.ini, for example keystone has max-complexity=24. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but in a recent attempt to lower the maximum complexity check in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docker][containers][qa] nova-docker CI failing a lot on unrelated nova patches

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Ian Main im...@redhat.com wrote: Sean Dague wrote: On 12/04/2014 05:38 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 12/4/2014 4:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: +Eric and Ian On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV][Telco] pxe-boot

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Pasquale Porreca pasquale.porr...@dektech.com.au wrote: The use case we were thinking about is a Network Function (e.g. IMS Nodes) implementation in which the high availability is based on OpenSAF. In this scenario there is an Active/Standby cluster of 2 System

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docker][containers][qa] nova-docker CI failing a lot on unrelated nova patches

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Eric Windisch e...@windisch.us wrote: While gating on nova-docker will prevent patches that cause nova-docker to break 100% to land, it won't do a lot to prevent transient failures. To fix those we need people dedicated to making sure nova-docker is working.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][NFV][Third-party] CI for NUMA, SR-IOV, and other features that can't be tested on current infra.

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com To: Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 05:43:14PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 09:36:18AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] policy on old / virtually abandoned patches

2014-12-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 5, 2014 7:07 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 07:06:59AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: Nova currently has 197 patches that have seen no activity in the last 4 weeks (project:openstack/nova age:4weeks status:open). On a somewhat related note,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Spring cleaning nova-core

2014-12-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/05/2014 08:41 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 11:05:28AM +1100, Michael Still wrote: One of the things that happens over time is that some of our core reviewers move on to other projects.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Spring cleaning nova-core

2014-12-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 5, 2014 11:39 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/05/2014 11:23 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: As you are more then aware of, our policy for removing people from core is to leave that up the the PTL (I believe you wrote that) [0]. And I don't think numbers alone are a good

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Operations: adding new nodes in disabled state, allowed for test tenant only

2014-12-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Mike Scherbakov mscherba...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi all, enable_new_services in nova.conf seems to allow add new compute nodes in disabled state: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L507-L508, so it would allow to check

[openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo Project Priorities

2014-12-04 Thread Joe Gordon
think are important to accomplish for Kilo * We are trying to prioritize work that fits under those categories. * If you would like to help with one of those priorities, please contact the owner. thoughts, comments and feedback are appreciated. best, Joe Gordon Summit etherpad: https

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Can the Kilo nova controller conduct the Juno compute nodes

2014-12-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Li Junhong lijh.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Is it possible for Kilo nova controller to control the Juno compute nodes? Is this scenario supported naturally by the nova mechanism in the design and codes level? Yes, We gate on making sure we can run Kilo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Can the Kilo nova controller conduct the Juno compute nodes

2014-12-03 Thread Joe Gordon
, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Li Junhong lijh.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, Thank you for your confirmative answer and the wonderful gate testing pipeline. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Li Junhong lijh.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-novaclient] Status of novaclient V3

2014-12-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Andrey Kurilin akuri...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi! While working on fixing wrong import in novaclient v3 shell, I have found that a lot of commands, which are listed in V3 shell(novaclient.v3.shell), are broken, because appropriate managers are missed from V3

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][qa] Moving the hacking project under the QA program

2014-12-02 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: The hacking project is currently managed by the Oslo team. Normally Joe Gordon handles all of the release work, and so I haven’t bothered to look at how the Launchpad project is set up or how the branches are managed

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] deleting the pylint test job

2014-11-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: The pylint test job has been broken for weeks, no one seemed to care. While waiting for other tests to return today I looked into it and figured out the fix. However, because of nova objects pylint is progressively less and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 02:00:11PM -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote: This is something we can call nitpiking

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Scale out bug-triage by making it easier for people to contribute

2014-11-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/11/14 14:45 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-11-17 08:46:19 -0800: Greetings

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote: This is something we can call nitpiking or low priority. This all seems like nitpicking for very little value. I think there are better things we can be focusing on instead of thinking of new ways to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] policy on old / virtually abandoned patches

2014-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 07:33:54AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: On 11/18/2014 07:29 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 07:06:59AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: Nova currently has 197 patches that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Scale out bug-triage by making it easier for people to contribute

2014-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-11-17 08:46:19 -0800: Greetings, Regardless of how big/small bugs backlog is for each project, I believe this is a common, annoying and difficult problem. At the oslo

Re: [openstack-dev] Dynamic VM Consolidation Agent as part of Nova

2014-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Mehdi Sheikhalishahi mehdi.alish...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to bring Dynamic VM Consolidation capability into Nova. That is I would like to check compute nodes status periodically (let's say every 15 minutes) and consolidate VMs if there is any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][NFV][Third-party] CI for NUMA, SR-IOV, and other features that can't be tested on current infra.

2014-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: On 12 November 2014 11:11, Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com wrote: NUMA We still need to identify some hardware to run third party CI for the NUMA-related work, and no doubt other things that will come up. It's

Re: [openstack-dev] CI for NUMA, SR-IOV, and other features that can't be tested on current infra.

2014-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Irena Berezovsky ire...@mellanox.com wrote: Hi Steve, Regarding SR-IOV testing, at Mellanox we have CI job running on bare metal node with Mellanox SR-IOV NIC. This job is reporting on neutron patches. Currently API tests are executed. The contact person for

[openstack-dev] [nova] Wednesday Bug Day

2014-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, At the kilo nova meeting up in Paris, We had a lengthy discussion on better bug management. One of the action items was to make every Wednesday a bug day nova in #openstack-nova [0]. So tomorrow will be our first attempt at Bug Wednesday. One of the issues we found with previous bug

Re: [openstack-dev] Multi-node testing (for redis and others...)

2014-11-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Hi guys, A recent question came up about how do we test better with redis for tooz. I think this question is also relevant for ceilometer (and other users of redis) and in general applies to the whole of openstack as

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [barbican] Stable check of openstack/cinder failed

2014-11-02 Thread Joe Gordon
the release of the new barbicanclient caused another bug as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1388414, this one is causing all grenade jobs on master to fail. It looks like we have a hole in the gating logic somewhere. On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Alan Pevec ape...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Finalizing cross-project design summit track

2014-10-30 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/29/2014 09:07 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/29/2014 06:46 PM, Rochelle Grober wrote: Any chance we could use the opening to move either the Refstack session or the logging session from

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Finalizing cross-project design summit track

2014-10-30 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/29/2014 09:07 PM, Russell Bryant wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI

2014-10-29 Thread Joe Gordon
-networking, altough we would support it with neutron). Correct, if you don' support nova-network at all, then you should have an 'X' in those boxes. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas (irc: scheuran) On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 11:06 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:44 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Eoghan Glynn's message of 2014-10-29 16:37:42 -0700: On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Folks, I haven't seen the customary number-crunching on the recent

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI

2014-10-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: Are current nova CI platforms configured with nova-networking or with neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a part of the nova CI approach? I think we have several that only run on Neutron, so I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Summit] Coordination between OpenStack lower layer virt stack (libvirt, QEMU/KVM)

2014-10-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Oct 21, 2014 4:10 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:58:48PM +0200, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: I was discussing $subject on #openstack-nova, Nikola Dipanov suggested Sounds like a great idea. it's worthwhile to bring this up on the list. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [novaclient] E12* rules

2014-10-20 Thread Joe Gordon
of ignored rules. This helps to keep code in more strict, readable form, which is very important when working in community. While working on rule E126, we started discussion with Joe Gordon about demand of these rules. I have no idea about reasons of why they should be ignored, so I want to know

Re: [openstack-dev] FreeBSD host support

2014-10-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bogorodskiy rbogorods...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, In discussion of this spec proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127827/ it was suggested by Joe Gordon to start a discussion on the mailing list. So I'll share my thoughts and a long term plan

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] request_id deprecation strategy question

2014-10-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:12 AM, gordon chung g...@live.ca wrote: The issue I'm highlighting is that those projects using the code now have to update their api-paste.ini files to import from the new location, presumably while giving some warning to operators about the impending removal

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Removing nova-bm support within os-cloud-config

2014-10-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Steve Kowalik ste...@wedontsleep.org wrote: With the move to removing nova-baremetal, I'm concerned that portions of os-cloud-config will break once python-novaclient has released with the bits of the nova-baremetal gone -- import errors, and such like. Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] add cyclomatic complexity check to pep8 target

2014-10-16 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi all I came across some tools [1] [2] that we could use to make sure we don't increase our code complexity. Has anyone had any experience with these or other tools? Flake8 (and thus hacking) has built in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] add cyclomatic complexity check to pep8 target

2014-10-16 Thread Joe Gordon
/driver.py#n4113 http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#n4113* First step in fixing this, put a cap on it: goog_106984861 https://review.openstack.org/129125 +1 from me. — Morgan Fainberg On October 16, 2014 at 20:45:35, Joe Gordon (joe.gord

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate

2014-10-13 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Adam Lawson alaw...@aqorn.com wrote: Looks like this was proposed and denied to be part of Nova for some reason last year. Thoughts on why and is the reasoning (whatever it was) still applicable? Link? *Adam Lawson* AQORN, Inc. 427 North Tatnall

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-qa] Post job failures

2014-10-09 Thread Joe Gordon
What about using graphite + logstash to power a post-job /nightly-job/post-merge-periodic (the new thing we talked about in Germany) dashboard? There are a few different use cases for a dashboard for jobs that don't report on gerrit changes. * Track the success an failure rates over time * If

[openstack-dev] [nova] gerrit based statistics

2014-10-08 Thread Joe Gordon
Recently there has been a lot of discussion around the development growing pains in nova. Instead of guessing about how bad some of the issues are, I tried to answer a few questions that may help us better understand the issues. Q: How many revisions does it take to merge a patch? Average: 6.76

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] gerrit based statistics

2014-10-08 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Recently there has been a lot of discussion around the development growing pains in nova. Instead of guessing about how bad some of the issues are, I tried to answer a few questions that may help us better understand

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] gerrit based statistics

2014-10-08 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Recently there has been a lot of discussion around the development

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Resource tracker

2014-10-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 02:55:20PM -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-10-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: Keeping the enforcement local (same way policy works today) helps limit the fragility, big +1 there. I also agree with Vish, we need a uniform way to talk about quota enforcement similar to how we have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Resource tracker

2014-10-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, At the moment the resource tracker in Nova ignores that statistics that are returned by the hypervisor and it calculates the values on its own. Not only is this highly error prone but it is also very costly – all of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] governance changes for big tent model

2014-10-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Doug Hellmann d

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] governance changes for big tent model

2014-10-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2

Re: [openstack-dev] What's a dependency (was Re: [all][tc] governance changes for big tent...) model

2014-10-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: * services that nothing depends on * services that don't depend on other services Latest graph: http://i.imgur.com/y8zmNIM.png I'm hesitant to open this can but it's just lying

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] governance changes for big tent model

2014-10-02 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: As promised at this week’s TC meeting, I have applied the various blog posts and mailing list threads related to changing our

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-10-01 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Solly Ross sr...@redhat.com wrote: (response inline) - Original Message - From: Pasquale Porreca pasquale.porr...@dektech.com.au To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:08:50 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][cross-project-work] What about adding cross-project-spec repo?

2014-10-01 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Boris Pavlovic wrote: it goes without saying that working on cross-project stuff in OpenStack is quite hard task. Because it's always

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-09-30 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:04 AM, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote: Hello, Dear TC and all, Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance because of these reasons: 1) Multiple data centers

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo Blueprints and Specs

2014-09-29 Thread Joe Gordon
2014 00:31, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:21 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 25 September 2014 14:10, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: The proposal is to keep kilo-1, kilo-2 much the same as juno. Except, we work harder

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

2014-09-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 9/16/2014 1:01 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sep 15, 2014 8:31 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/15/2014 08:07 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-15 17:59:10

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo Blueprints and Specs

2014-09-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:32:57 -0700 Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, Is the process documented anywhere? That is, if say

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo Blueprints and Specs

2014-09-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:21 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 25 September 2014 14:10, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: The proposal is to keep kilo-1, kilo-2 much the same as juno. Except, we work harder on getting people to buy into the priorities that are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Choice of Series goal of a blueprint

2014-09-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Angelo Matarazzo angelo.matara...@dektech.com.au wrote: Hi all, Can create a blueprint and choose a previous Series goal (eg:Icehouse)? I think that it can be possible but no reviewer or driver will be interested in it. Right? I am not sure what the 'why'

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
way to build the list. Joe Gordon mentioned an interesting idea to address this (which I am probably totally butchering), which is that we make incubation more similar to the ASF Incubator. In other words make it more lightweight with no promise of governance or infrastructure support. you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 22:04, Joe Gordon wrote: To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but after digging into the two of them, zaqar barely looks like SQS. Zaqar doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/23/2014 05:13 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: [snip] To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/19/2014 09:13 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: SQS offers very, very limited guarantees, and it's clear that the reason for that is to make it massively, massively scalable in the way

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/19/2014 09:13 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: SQS offers very, very

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:24 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
in the sense of OpenStack Tenants/Project-ID's or in the sense of “clients/workers”? For the latter case, the pilot tests I’ve done so far used multiple clients (though not graphed), but in the former case only one “project” was used. multiple Tenant/Project-IDs From: Joe Gordon joe.gord

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but due to the distributed nature of the queue, we cannot guarantee you will receive messages

Re: [openstack-dev] PostgreSQL jobs slow in the gate

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
Postgres is also logging a lot of errors: http://logs.openstack.org/63/122263/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/2f27252/logs/postgres.txt.gz On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Clark Boylan cboy...@sapwetik.org wrote: Hello, Recent sampling of test run times shows that our tempest jobs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Its time to start identifying release critical bugs

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi. Is time to start identifying (and working on) release critical bugs in nova before we ship RC1. My initial position is that any critical bug is release critical. There are currently critical bugs not targeted to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

2014-09-16 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sep 15, 2014 8:31 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/15/2014 08:07 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-15 17:59:10 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: [...] Sometimes it's pretty hard to determine whether something in the E-R check page is due to something in the infra scripts,

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Kurt Griffiths kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi folks, In this second round of performance testing, I benchmarked the new Redis driver. I used the same setup and tests as in Round 1 to make it easier to compare the two drivers. I did not test Redis in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 09:23:34AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project

[openstack-dev] memory usage in devstack-gate (the oom-killer strikes again)

2014-09-08 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, We have recently started seeing assorted memory issues in the gate including the oom-killer [0] and libvirt throwing memory errors [1]. Luckily we run ps and dstat on every devstack run so we have some insight into why we are running out of memory. Based on the output from job taken at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/04/2014 10:25 PM, Solly Ross wrote: Anyway, I think it would be useful to have some sort of page where people could say I'm an SME in X, ask me for reviews and then patch submitters could go and say, oh, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][FFE] Feature Freeze exception for juno-slaveification

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am requesting an exception for the juno-slaveification blueprint. There is a single outstanding patch [1] which has already been approved before, but needed to be re-spun due to gate failures which then

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [feature freeze exception] Move to oslo.db

2014-09-04 Thread Joe Gordon
not only removes 3k LOC, but fixes 4 bugs(see commit message for more details) and provides relevant, stable common db code. Main maintainers of oslo.db(Roman Podoliaka and Victor Sergeyev) are OK with this. Joe Gordon and Matt Riedemann are already signing up, so we need one more vote from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:23 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: Sorry for another top post, but I like how Nikola has pulled this problem apart, and wanted to respond directly to his response. On 3 September 2014 10:50, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: The reason many

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: Position statement == Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If steps are not taken to avert this, the project

[openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
. The goal of this exercise is to help us see if our individual world views align with the greater community, and to get the ball rolling on a larger discussion of where as a project we should be focusing more time. best, Joe Gordon [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][qa][neutron] Neutron full job, advanced services, and the integrated gate

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: TL; DR A few folks are proposing to stop running tests for neutron advanced services [ie: (lb|vpn|fw)aas] in the integrated gate, and run them only on the neutron gate. Reason: projects like nova are 100%

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] libvirt version_cap, a postmortem

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
to Dan Berrange's position, votes -2. Some debate between Dan and Dan continues. Joe Gordon votes +2. Matt Riedemann expresses support-in-principal for Dan Smith's approach. = July 15 = Debate continues ... 16:12 - I -2 the patch and attempt to take a step back and think about how we could have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/02/2014 09:23 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/02/2014 08:16 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. We're soon to hit feature freeze, as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Solly Ross sr...@redhat.com wrote: I will follow up with a more detailed email about what I believe we are missing, once the FF settles and I have applied some soothing creme to my burnout wounds, but currently my sentiment is: Contributing features to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 29, 2014 10:42 AM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: Well, I think that there is a sign of a broken (or at least bent) process and that's what I'm trying to expose. Especially given the ongoing conversations over Gantt it seems wrong that ultimately it was rejected due to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 12:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/27/2014 05:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 01:04:57AM +, Dugger, Donald D wrote: I'll try and not whine about my pet project but I do think there is a problem here. For the Gantt project to split out the scheduler there is a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: I share Donald's points here, I believe what would help is to clearly describe in the Wiki the process and workflow for the BP approval process and build in this process how to deal with

[openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo Specs Schedule

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
We just finished discussing when to open up Kilo specs at the nova meeting today [0], and Kilo specs will open right after we cut Juno RC1 (around Sept 25th [1]). Additionally, the spec template will most likely be revised. We still have a huge amount of work to do for Juno and the nova team is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: On 08/28/2014 04:01 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com mailto:alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: I share Donald's points here, I believe what

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Nova]May be performance issues of connect_volume in Nova

2014-08-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Wang Shen ws1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All I have done some work to test the performance of LUN scanning, use iscsiadm with --rescan like what Nova dose. In my test, a host connected with a lot of LUNs , more than 1000 LUNs. Because --rescan will cause kernel

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Additional cross-project resources can be ponied up by the large contributor companies, and existing cross-project resources are not necessarily divertable on command. Sure additional cross-project

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally] Introduction to feature request mechanism in Rally

2014-08-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.me wrote: Hi stackers, It goes without saying that end users, that are actually using your tool/project/service, usually don't have enough time to join community, understand all technical details and road map of project and

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 24, 2014 9:04 AM, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, August 24, 2014, Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: I'm following this as well since I have the exact same problem in a docstring patch for heat. Keystone saw an oddity with the new sample config

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] In-tree functional test vision

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: In the Thoughts on the patch test failure rate and moving forward thread[1] there's discussion of moving some of the burden for functional testing to the individual projects. This seems like a good idea to me, but also seems

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] In-tree functional test vision

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: [Other stuff snipped, thanks for that, good to have some pointers.] Why can't you run devstack locally? Maybe there are some changes we can make so its easier to run devstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Specs and approvals

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:57 AM, James Slagle james.sla...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: While I cannot speak for the dynamics of the tripleo team, if this were to be adopted in nova I would not +2 any blueprints as I don't

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