Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [QA] Slow Ceilometer resource_list CLI command

2014-03-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.orgwrote: Hi everyone, So a little while ago we noticed that in all the gate runs one of the ceilometer cli tests is consistently in the list of slowest tests. (and often the slowest) This was a bit surprising given the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] question about e41fb84 fix anti-affinity race condition on boot

2014-03-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.comwrote: On 03/17/14 at 01:11pm, Chris Friesen wrote: On 03/17/2014 11:59 AM, John Garbutt wrote: On 17 March 2014 17:54, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: Given the scheduler split, writing that value into the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [QA] Slow Ceilometer resource_list CLI command

2014-03-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/17/2014 03:22 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org mailto:mtrein...@kortar.org wrote: Hi everyone, So a little while ago we noticed

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-17 Thread Joe Gordon
faster if I remember correctly. Might be worth doing something similar for the l3-agent. Best, Aaron On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: I looked

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo mangel...@redhat.com wrote: I have included on the etherpad, the option to write a sudo plugin (or several), specific for openstack. And this is a test

[openstack-dev] Stable/havana and trunk clients

2014-03-14 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, so as some of you may have noticed the stable/havana jobs just broke. The stable/havana jobs are missing a dependency on oathlib [1]. It looks like like oauthlib is a keystoneclient dependency, but it wasn't in the global-requirements for stable/havana [2], so it never got installed.

Re: [openstack-dev] Stable/havana and trunk clients

2014-03-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, so as some of you may have noticed the stable/havana jobs just broke. python-keystoneclient patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77977/ Broke stable https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80726/ Reverts that change

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Python 3.3 patches (using six)

2014-03-13 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Joe Hakim Rahme joe.hakim.ra...@enovance.com wrote: On 10 Mar 2014, at 22:54, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com wrote: There are a number of patches up for review that make various changes to use six apis instead of Python 2 constructs. While I understand the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][db][performance] Proposal: Get rid of soft deletion (step by step)

2014-03-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Undeleting things is an important use case in my opinion. We do this in our environment on a regular basis. In that light I'm not sure that it would be appropriate just to log the deletion and git rid of the row. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][db][performance] Proposal: Get rid of soft deletion (step by step)

2014-03-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: Typical cases are user error where someone accidentally deletes an item from a tenant. The image guys have a good structure where images become unavailable and are recoverable for a certain period of time. A regular periodic

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
: http://cormachogan.com/2013/04/16/what-are-dependent-independent-disks-persistent-and-non-persisent-modes/ http://searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com/feature/Understanding-nonpersistent-vs-persistent-VDI From: Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 08

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][db] Thoughts on making instances.uuid non-nullable?

2014-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
. ++ Probably we should some other thread to cover this topic? ++ Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 3/9/2014 9:18 PM, Jay Pipes wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] a question about instance snapshot

2014-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mar 10, 2014 12:29 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 12:13 -0400, Shawn Hartsock wrote: We have very strong interest in pursing this feature in the VMware driver as well. I would like to see the revert instance feature implemented at least. When I used to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
I looked into the python to C options and haven't found anything promising yet. I tried Cython, and RPython, on a trivial hello world app, but git similar startup times to standard python. The one thing that did work was adding a '-S' when starting python. -S Disable the import of

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: I looked into the python to C options and haven't found anything promising yet. I tried Cython, and RPython, on a trivial hello world app, but git similar startup times to standard python. The one thing that did work

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-07 Thread Joe Gordon
think the use case you have brought up can be solved inside of the VM with something like http://unionfs.filesystems.org/are a filesystem that supports snapshotting. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Qin Zhao chaoc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to merge blueprints that just missed Icehouse-3 in early Juno-1

2014-03-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:51 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 5 March 2014 15:02, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Nova is now feature frozen for the Icehouse release. Patches for blueprints not already merged will need a feature freeze exception (FFE) to be

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thierry, 2014-03-06 11:46 GMT+01:00 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: Dina Belova wrote: Would Climate also be usable to support functionality like Spot Instances ? Schedule when spot price falls under X

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] FFE Request: Ephemeral RBD image support

2014-03-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Andrew Woodward xar...@gmail.com wrote: For 59148 patch set 23, we nearly merged and had +2 from Joe Gordon I am not sponsoring any FFE as I want to focus my attention on fixing bugs etc. This doesn't mean I am for or against a FFE on this feature in general

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-06 Thread Joe Gordon
be permitted to exceed the quota, since it request additional dollars. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Qin Zhao chaoc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, If we assume the user is willing to create a new instance, the workflow you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] FFE Request: Oslo: i18n Message improvements

2014-03-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 3/6/2014 8:08 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 3/6/2014 3:46 PM, James Carey wrote: Please consider a FFE for i18n Message improvements: BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/i18n-messages

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-05 Thread Joe Gordon
step 3 From what I gather you are saying that instead of 4/5 you want the user to be able to just reboot the instance. I don't think such a subtle change in behavior is worth a whole new API extension. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-03-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Tue, Mar 04 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: So since tools/config/check_uptodate.sh is oslo code, I assumed this issue falls into the domain of oslo-incubator. Until this gets resolved nova is considering https

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-05 Thread Joe Gordon
of circumstances would prevent someone from deleting and recreating an instance? On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Qin Zhao chaoc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, my meaning is that cloud users may not hope to create new

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo mangel...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Miguel Angel Ajo wrote: [...] The overhead comes from python startup time + rootwrap loading. I suppose that rootwrap was designed for lower amount of system calls

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Crack at a Real life workflow

2014-03-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mar 5, 2014 6:58 PM, Dmitri Zimine d...@stackstorm.com wrote: Folks, I took a crack at using our DSL to build a real-world workflow. Just to see how it feels to write it. And how it compares with alternative tools. This one automates a page from OpenStack operation guide:

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-04 Thread Joe Gordon
, that is not a very comprehensive answer. Cheers Dina On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Overall I think Climate is trying to address some very real use cases, but its unclear to me where these solutions should live or how to solve them. Furthermore I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-04 Thread Joe Gordon
reboot and you are back to clean state and start over again.I feel it's convenient to handle this with just a reboot rather than recreating the instance. Thanks, Divakar -Original Message- From: Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:41 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] WARNING: ... This application has not enabled MySQL traditional mode, which means silent data corruption may occur - real issue?

2014-03-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 2014-03-04 12:51, Sean Dague wrote: On 03/04/2014 01:27 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: This warning should be gone by default once https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/commit/dda24eb4a815914c29e801ad0176630786db8734

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-03-04 Thread Joe Gordon
So since tools/config/check_uptodate.sh is oslo code, I assumed this issue falls into the domain of oslo-incubator. Until this gets resolved nova is considering https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78028/ On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 05,

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net wrote: Hi Joe, Thanks for your reply, I'll try to further explain. Le

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net wrote: Hi Joe, Thanks for your reply, I'll try to further explain. Le 03/03/2014 05:33, Joe Gordon a écrit : On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Dina Belova dbel

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
. Thanks On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: There has been quite a bit of discussion about the future of the v3 API recently. There has been growing support for the idea that we should change course and focus on evolving the existing v2 API instead of putting out

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/03/14 12:32, Joe Gordon wrote: - if you're reserving resources far before you'll need them, it'll be cheaper Why? How does this save a provider money? If an operator has zero information about the level of future

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, 2014-03-03 18:32 GMT+01:00 Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com: This sounds like something that belongs in nova, Phil Day has an elegant solution for this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/whole

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
was described by Sylvain, I guess :) -- Dina On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, 2014-03-03 18:32 GMT+01:00 Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com: This sounds like something that belongs in nova, Phil Day has an elegant solution for this: https

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/03/2014 01:35 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/03/14 12:32, Joe Gordon wrote: - if you're reserving resources far before you'll need them, it'll

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/03/2014 01:27 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: 1) What about tasks? In some cases, the proposed integration of tasks is backwards compatible. A task

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
, but it would be nice to see a more fleshed out story for it. It would be nice to see more of these use cases discussed. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/03/2014 01:35 PM, Joe Gordon wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Yuzhou (C) vitas.yuz...@huawei.com wrote: Hi stackers, As far as I know ,there are two types of storage used by VM in openstack: Ephemeral Storage and Persistent Storage. Data on ephemeral storage ceases to exist when the instance it is associated with is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback automatically), do you think we shoud introduce this feature?

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
Message- From: Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:26 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Luohao (brian) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] non-persistent storage(after stopping VM, data will be rollback

[openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, here's a case worth exploring in a v2 only world ... what about some extension we really think is dead and should go away? can we ever remove it? In the past we have said backwards compatibility means no we cannot remove any extensions, if we adopt the v2 only notion of backwards

Re: [openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

2014-03-02 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Dina Belova dbel...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello, folks! I'd like to request Climate project review for incubation. Here is official incubation application: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Climate/Incubation I'm unclear on what Climate is trying to solve. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] Changes to oslo-incubator sync workflow

2014-02-28 Thread Joe Gordon
Lets use https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Icehouse-nova-oslo-sync to keep track of things. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: GCB, Ben, Thanks for volunteering to help. GCB, reminded me that we should be doing this for python-novaclient in addition

Re: [openstack-dev] Hacking and PEP 257: Extra blank line at end of multi-line docstring

2014-02-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Ziad Sawalha ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com wrote: On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:05 AM, David Ripton drip...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/26/2014 11:40 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: This is missing the point

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor Framework

2014-02-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:11 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi neutron folks, I know that there are patches on gerrit for VPN, FWaaS and L3 services that are leveraging Provider Framework. Recently we've been discussing more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor Framework

2014-02-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 15:12 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:11 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi neutron folks, I know

Re: [openstack-dev] Hacking and PEP 257: Extra blank line at end of multi-line docstring

2014-02-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Ziad Sawalha ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 00:56 +, Ziad Sawalha wrote: Seeking some clarification on the OpenStack hacking guidelines for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Future of the Nova API

2014-02-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: We may need to differentiate between breaking the API and breaking corner-case behavior. Totally agreed. In one case you force everyone in the ecosystem to adapt (the libraries, the end user code). In the other you only

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/21/2014 11:02 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:46:22AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: On 02/21/2014 09:45 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: So

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] Changes to oslo-incubator sync workflow

2014-02-26 Thread Joe Gordon
on -dev list traffic... On 2014-02-19 20:27, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, As many of you know most oslo-incubator code is wildly out of sync. Assuming we consider it a good idea to sync up oslo-incubator code before

Re: [openstack-dev] Hacking and PEP 257: Extra blank line at end of multi-line docstring

2014-02-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Ziad Sawalha ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com wrote: Seeking some clarification on the OpenStack hacking guidelines for multi-string docstrings. Q: In OpenStack projects, is a blank line before the triple closing quotes recommended (and therefore optional - this is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][glance] Question about evacuate with no shared storage..

2014-02-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Sangeeta Singh sin...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Hi, At my organization we do not use a shared storage for VM disks but need to evacuate VMs from a HV that is down or having problems to another HV. The evacuate command only allows the evacuated VM to have the base

Re: [openstack-dev] Documenting test environments (was Re: supported dependency versioning and testing)

2014-02-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: [new thread for this...] On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Mark McLoughlin Perhaps rather than focusing on making this absolutely black and white, we should focus on better communicating what we actually focus our testing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/20/2014 09:55 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0500 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: We're also duplicating a lot of test and review energy in having 2 API stacks. Even before v3 has come out of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, The v3 API effort has been going for a few release cycles now. As we approach the Icehouse release, we are faced with the following question: Is it time to mark v3 stable? My opinion is that I think we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Is there anything blocking the libvirt driver from implementing the host_maintenance_mode API?

2014-02-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 2/19/2014 4:05 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: The os-hosts OS API extension [1] showed up before I was working on the project and I see that only the VMware and XenAPI drivers implement it, but was wondering why

[openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Joe Gordon
? deployers? * Other solutions? * Does it make sense to gate on the lowest version of libvirt but the highest version of python libs? * Given our finite resources what gets us the furthest? best, Joe Gordon John Garbutt ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] blueprint: Nova with py33 compatibility

2014-02-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM, 郭小熙 glongw...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, a Jenkins job is not useful currently. I would like to submit some commits to fix known python 3 support issues as we did in oslo-incubator. Another question is how to make new changes avoid regression, Maybe we need add

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] Changes to oslo-incubator sync workflow

2014-02-19 Thread Joe Gordon
As a side to this, as an exercise I tried a oslo sync in cinder to see what kind of issues would arise and here are my findings so far: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74786/ On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 2/19/2014 7:13 PM, Joe Gordon

Re: [openstack-dev] VPC Proposal

2014-02-18 Thread Joe Gordon
when Neutron is not used. That will be addressed with the next path. 2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53171 This is the active review for tempest test cases as requested by Joe Gordon. Currently abandoned until #1 goes through. 3. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53171 This review

Re: [openstack-dev] VPC Proposal

2014-02-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Martin, JC jch.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Joe, See my comments in line. On Feb 18, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Martin, JC jch.mar...@gmail.com wrote: There was a lot of emails on that thread

Re: [openstack-dev] help the oslo team help you

2014-02-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: If you have a change in your project that is blocked waiting for a patch to land in oslo (in the incubator, or any of the libraries we manage) *please* either open a blueprint or mark the associated bug as also

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] role of Domain in VPC definition

2014-02-16 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: It seems this work item is made of several blueprints, some of which are not yet approved. This is true at least for the Neutron blueprint regarding policy extensions. Since I first looked at this spec I've been

Re: [openstack-dev] VPC Proposal

2014-02-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Martin, JC jch.mar...@gmail.com wrote: There is a Blueprint targeted for Icehouse-3 that is aiming to implement the AWS VPC api. I don't think that this blueprint is providing the necessary constructs to really implement a VPC, and it is not taking into

Re: [openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] First meeting scheduled

2014-02-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Matthew Farina m...@mattfarina.com wrote: I would like to point out that the unified SDK has a different target audience from the existing clients. Application developers who want to work with OpenStack APIs are far different from those who are trying to build

Re: [openstack-dev] universal wheel support

2014-02-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: Hey all! There are a bunch of patches adding: [wheel] universal = 1 to setup.cfg:

[openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer] Removing simple_tenant_usage and os-instance_usage_audit_log from V3 API

2014-02-07 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, I would like to propose removing the simple_tenant_usage and os-instance_usage_audit_log extensions from the nova V3 API (while keeping them in V2). Both of these are pre ceilometer extensions to generate rudimentary usage information, something that we should be using ceilometer for.

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 barfs on long URL

2014-02-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 15:36 +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Feb 07 2014, Jay Pipes wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 14:25 +, Matthew Booth wrote: I have a comment which references a long URL. The URL itself is longer

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Python 3.3 gates are failing

2014-02-07 Thread Joe Gordon
This issue is being tracked with the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1277495 On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:09 AM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: The same with swiftclient, hacking, openstacksdk and others -

Re: [openstack-dev] why do we put a license in every file?

2014-02-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Greg Hill greg.h...@rackspace.com wrote: I'm new, so I'm sure there's some history I'm missing, but I find it bizarre that we have to put the same license into every single file of source code in our projects. In my past experience, a single LICENSE file at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer] ceilometer unit tests broke because of a nova patch

2014-02-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: We don't have to add a new notification, but we have to add some new datas in the nova notifications. At least for the delete instance notification to remove the ceilometer nova notifier. A while ago, I have registered a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer] ceilometer unit tests broke because of a nova patch

2014-02-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: Ceilometer running a plugin in nova is bad (for all the reasons previously discussed), Well, I partially disagree. Are you saying that nobody is allowed to run a plugin in Nova? So

[openstack-dev] [oslo][nova] Issues syncing latest db changes

2014-02-05 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi Boris, Roman, Victor (oslo-incubator db maintainers), Last night I stumbled across bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1272500 in nova, which says the issue has been fixed in the latest oslo-incubator code. So I ran: ./update.sh --base nova --dest-dir ../nova --modules db.sqlalchemy

Re: [openstack-dev] Grizzly volume quotas

2014-02-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Jay S Bryant jsbry...@us.ibm.com wrote: Pat, I see the same behavior on an Icehouse level install. So, I think you may have found a bug. So the bug here isn't what you expect. First a bit of background. * python-novaclient isn't part of the integrated

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer] ceilometer unit tests broke because of a nova patch

2014-02-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Mon, Feb 03 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: We know, Ceilometer has been broken several times because of that in the past months. We know we shouldn't do that, but for now we don't have enough work force to work on a batter

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-02-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/05/2014 12:37 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 16:49 +, Sahid Ferdjaoui wrote: Hello all, It looks 100% of the pep8 gate for nova is failing because of a bug reported, we probably need to mark this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Scheduler] Will the Scheuler use Nova Objects?

2014-02-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm of the opinion that the scheduler should use objects, for all the reasons that Nova uses objects, but that they should not be Nova objects. Ultimately what the scheduler needs is a concept of capacity, allocations, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Putting nova-network support into the V3 API

2014-02-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: So with it now looking like nova-network won't go away for the forseable future, it looks like we'll want nova-network support in the Nova V3 API after all. I've created a blueprint for this work here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Putting nova-network support into the V3 API

2014-02-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: So with it now looking like nova-network won't go away for the forseable future, it looks like we'll want nova-network support in the Nova V3 API

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer] ceilometer unit tests broke because of a nova patch

2014-02-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Thu, Jan 30 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: Hi Joe, While looking at gate failures trying to improve our classification rate I stumbled across this: http://logs.openstack.org/50/67850/5/gate/gate-ceilometer-python26

Re: [openstack-dev] Barbican Incubation Review

2014-02-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.com wrote: Jarret Raim wrote: I'm presuming that this is our last opportunity for API review - if this isn't the right occasion to bring this up, ignore me! Apparently you are right: For incubation 'Project APIs should be

Re: [openstack-dev] Question about Nova BP.

2014-01-31 Thread Joe Gordon
Including openstack-dev ML in response. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:14 AM, wingwj win...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Mr Gordon, Firstly, sorry for my lately reply for this BP.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/driver-for-huawei-fusioncompute Honestly speaking, we wrote the first

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Lots of gating failures because of testtools

2014-01-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Projects that have set the testtools line in test-requirements.txt to: testtools=0.9.32,0.9.35 Will not be able to pass there unit tests. Note: due to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1274251 auto-sync global requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Lots of gating failures because of testtools

2014-01-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 2014-01-29 13:12, Joe Gordon wrote: Projects that have set the testtools line in test-requirements.txt to: testtools=0.9.32,0.9.35 Was this supposed to be Projects that have _not_ set...? eep, yes. Although

[openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer] ceilometer unit tests broke because of a nova patch

2014-01-29 Thread Joe Gordon
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Reminder] - Gate Blocking Bug Day on Monday Jan 26th

2014-01-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: It may feel like it's been gate bug day all the days, but we would really like to get people together for gate bug day on Monday, and get as many people, including as many PTLs as possible, to dive into issues that we are

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova style cleanups with associated hacking check addition

2014-01-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.comwrote: Periodically I've seen people submit big coding style cleanups to Nova code. These are typically all good ideas / beneficial, however, I have rarely (perhaps even never?) seen the changes accompanied by new hacking

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate Status - Friday Edition

2014-01-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Clay Gerrard clay.gerr...@gmail.comwrote: That's a pretty high rate of failure, and really needs investigation. That's a great point, did you look into the logs of any of those jobs? Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I saw a few swift tests that

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate Status - Friday Edition

2014-01-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.comwrote: I've found out that several jobs are exhibiting failures like bug 1254890 [1] and bug 1253896 [2] because openvswitch seem to be crashing the kernel. The kernel trace reports as offending process usually either

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] How to include nova modules in unit tests

2014-01-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: Well, the first goal is to get the scheduler code into a separate tree, even though that code is still utilizing common code from nova. Right now just about every scheduler file includes some nova modules.

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 21/01/14 13:14 -0500, Joe Gordon wrote: On Jan 17, 2014 12:24 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/01/14 17:32 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ben Nemec openst

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: I would like to propose having a integration test job in Oslo incubator that syncs in the code, similar to how we do global requirements. I don't think that would be possible

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jan 17, 2014 12:24 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/01/14 17:32 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 2014-01-16 13:48, John Griffith wrote: Hey Everyone, A review came up today that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Can someone from the Nova core team please take a look at patch 40467

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Gordon
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Genin, Daniel I. daniel.ge...@jhuapl.eduwrote: Hello Nova core team, I have three small patches implementing ephemeral storage encryption for LVM backed instances.

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] negative test framework: ready for review

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Gordon
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Koderer, Marc m.kode...@telekom.de wrote: Hi all, first part of the negative test framework is ready for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64733/ Please have a look.

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Sync up patches

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On 01/16/2014 11:18 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com mailto:donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: My thought

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Reseting issues that need attention

2014-01-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 18:43 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi Sean, I think the following 2 commits in neutron are essential for bringing neutron jobs back to acceptable level of failure rate:

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Sync up patches

2014-01-16 Thread Joe Gordon
no matter how we do it. -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 *From:* Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:21 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re

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