Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I think the difference is slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova core wants to prioritize the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible solution here is to do the following: - revert the libvirt version_cap flag - instead implement a third

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Still
Maybe we should change how we wait? I get that we don't want to sit around forever, but perhaps we should specify a total maximum time to wait instead of a number of iterations of a loop? Something like 15 minutes should be long enough for anyone!. Eventlet sleeps are also pretty cheap, so having

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's happening. For

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote: On Wed 06 Aug 2014 02:10:23 PM PDT, Michael Still wrote: - we rate limit the total number of blueprints under code review at any one time to a fixed number of slots. I secretly prefer the term runway, so I am going

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-08-02 Thread Michael Still
Jay has now been added to the nova-core group in gerrit. Cheers, Michael On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Jay Pipes for the nova-core team. Jay has been involved with nova for a long time now. He's previously been

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Further, I'd like to propose that we treat all of existing +1 reviews as +2 (once he's officially added to the team). Does anyone have a problem with doing that? I think some folks would have done that anyway, but I

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-07-30 Thread Michael Still
Greetings, I would like to nominate Jay Pipes for the nova-core team. Jay has been involved with nova for a long time now. He's previously been a nova core, as well as a glance core (and PTL). He's been around so long that there are probably other types of core status I have missed. Please

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Spec freeze exception] Controlled shutdown of GuestOS

2014-07-24 Thread Michael Still
the point of contention - which I'ev done Yes, I will sponsor this one as well. This is more a bug fix than a feature IMO and would be really nice to get into Juno. -Original Message- From: Michael Still [mailto:mi...@stillhq.com] Sent: 24 July 2014 00:50 To: Daniel P. Berrange

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec Freeze Exception] [Gantt] Scheduler Isolate DB spec

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Still
In that case this exception is approved. The exception is in the form of another week to get the spec merged, so quick iterations are the key. Cheers, Michael On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Sylvain Bauza sba...@redhat.com wrote: Le 23/07/2014 01:11, Michael Still a écrit : This spec freeze

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] add boot_mode filter for nova.virt.ironic driver

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
I think this sounds risky to me... I'd rather we landed _something_ in terms of an ironic driver in juno, rather than adding features to what we have now. In fact, I thought Devananda had frozen the ironic nova driver to make this easier? Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Faizan Barmawer

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
Fair enough. Let's roll with that then. Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 07/21/2014 03:35 PM, Dan Smith wrote: We've already approved many other blueprints for Juno that involve features from new libvirt, so I don't think it is credible to reject

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
Ok, this one has two cores, so the exception is approved. The exception is in the form of another week to get the spec merged, so quick iterations are the key. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote: -Original Message- From:

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Fair enough. Let's roll with that then. Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 07/21/2014 03:35 PM, Dan Smith wrote: We've already approved many other blueprints for Juno that involve features from new libvirt, so I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Online Schema Changes

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
Ok, this one has two cores, so the exception is approved. The exception is in the form of another week to get the spec merged, so quick iterations are the key. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 10:55

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec Freeze Exception] [Gantt] Scheduler Isolate DB spec

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
This spec freeze exception only has one core signed up. Are there any other cores interested in working with Sylvain on this one? Michael On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:59 PM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 18 July 2014 09:10, Sylvain Bauza sba...@redhat.com wrote: Hi team, I would

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-20 Thread Michael Still
I just want to check my understanding -- it seems to me that this depends on a feature that's very new to libvirt (merged there 22 May 2014). Is that right? http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commit;h=d950494129513558a303387e26a2bab057012c5e We've had some concerns about adding features to

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-20 Thread Michael Still
cc'ed the main protagonists into my email on this thread. Michael On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com wrote: On 10:21 Mon 21 Jul , Michael Still wrote: I just want to check my understanding -- it seems to me that this depends on a feature that's very new to libvirt

[openstack-dev] [Nova] So you want a spec freeze exception?

2014-07-17 Thread Michael Still
At our weekly nova meeting just now I promised that I'd send an email here explaining our intentions with the spec freeze for juno. The proposed process works like this, but is subject to change: - you request a spec freeze exception on the openstack-dev mailing list. Please do this in the next

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Registration for the mid cycle meetup is now closed

2014-07-17 Thread Michael Still
Those who have replied to this thread are now registered. Michael On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi. We've now hit our room capacity, so I have closed registrations for the nova mid cycle meetup. Please reply to this thread if that's a significant

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nova] Weekly nova-network / neutron parity meeting

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Still
That time is around 1am for me. I'm ok with that as long as someone on the nova side can attend in my place. Michael On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: As we're getting down to the wire in Juno, I'd like to propose we have a weekly meeting on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] request to tag novaclient 2.18.0

2014-07-15 Thread Michael Still
Ok, I just released 2.18.1 to address this issue. https://launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+milestone/2.18.1 Cheers, Michael On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I can do another release once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106447/ merges. Michael On Sat

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Registration for the mid cycle meetup is now closed

2014-07-15 Thread Michael Still
Hi. We've now hit our room capacity, so I have closed registrations for the nova mid cycle meetup. Please reply to this thread if that's a significant problem for someone. Thanks, Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Registration for the mid cycle meetup is now closed

2014-07-15 Thread Michael Still
The containers meetup is in a different room with different space constraints, so containers focussed people should do whatever Adrian is doing for registration. Michael On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Eric Windisch ewindi...@docker.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rick Harris

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] request to add user hudson-openstack to nova-bugs team

2014-07-14 Thread Michael Still
I can't see a way to add the hudson user to that group, I'm hoping fungi might have come advice there. Michael On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:55 AM, melanie witt melw...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Nova Bug Wranglers, There have been some issues where the gerrit hook script is unable to link a review

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] request to add user hudson-openstack to nova-bugs team

2014-07-14 Thread Michael Still
Jeremy helped me with this on IRC, and the hudson bot is now a member of that group. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I can't see a way to add the hudson user to that group, I'm hoping fungi might have come advice there. Michael On Tue

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] request to tag novaclient 2.18.0

2014-07-11 Thread Michael Still
, Michael Still wrote: Sorry for the delay here. This email got lost in my inbox while I was travelling. This release is now tagged. Additionally, I have created a milestone for this release in launchpad, which is the keystone process for client releases. This means that users of launchpad can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Containers][Nova] Containers Team Mid-Cycle Meetup to join Nova Meetup

2014-07-11 Thread Michael Still
You should probably add these details to the wiki page for the event at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BeavertonJunoSprint Unfortunately my travel is booked already, so I wont be there for the Thursday. Michael On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] request to tag novaclient 2.18.0

2014-07-10 Thread Michael Still
Sorry for the delay here. This email got lost in my inbox while I was travelling. This release is now tagged. Additionally, I have created a milestone for this release in launchpad, which is the keystone process for client releases. This means that users of launchpad can now see what release a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] top gate bug is libvirt snapshot

2014-07-09 Thread Michael Still
, Michael Still wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: This is also why I find it unlikely to be a qemu bug, because that's not shared state between guests. If qemu just randomly wedges itself, that would be detectable much easier outside of the gate

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] top gate bug is libvirt snapshot

2014-07-08 Thread Michael Still
The associated bug says this is probably a qemu bug, so I think we should rephrase that to we need to start thinking about how to make sure upstream changes don't break nova. Michael On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Daniel

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] top gate bug is libvirt snapshot

2014-07-08 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: This is also why I find it unlikely to be a qemu bug, because that's not shared state between guests. If qemu just randomly wedges itself, that would be detectable much easier outside of the gate. And there have been attempts by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Still
I think you'd be better of requesting an exception for your spec than splitting the scheduler immediately. These refactorings need to happen anyways, and if your scheduler work diverges too far from nova then we're going to have a painful time getting things back in sync later. Michael On Mon,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Containers] Nova virt driver requirements

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Still
Joe has a good answer, but you should also be aware of the hypervisor support matrix (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix), which hopefully comes some way to explaining what we expect of a nova driver. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Joe Gordon

Re: [openstack-dev] [Containers][Nova] Containers Mid-Cycle Meetup

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Still
Adrian, is there any news on this? I want to start booking my ops meetup travel, but I don't know if I should include this meetup or not. Thanks, Michael On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/01/2014 05:59 PM, Adrian Otto wrote: Team, Please help us

Re: [openstack-dev] [third party] - minimum response time for 3rd party CI responses

2014-07-02 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Luke Gorrie l...@snabb.co wrote: On 30 June 2014 21:04, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: As a maintainer of a small CI system that tends to get backed up during milestone rush hours, it would be nice if we were allowed up to 12 hours. However, as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Mid-cycle sprint for remote people ?

2014-07-01 Thread Michael Still
We were talking about doing something with google+ for Chris Yeoh, but haven't really progressed the plan. Does someone want to pick up the ball with that or shall I? Michael On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: At minimum I can arrange for a phone

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Meeting this week?

2014-06-29 Thread Michael Still
Hi. The meeting this week would be on the 3rd of July, which I assume means that many people will be out of the office. Do people think its worth running the meeting or shall we give this week a miss? Thanks, Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] 0 byte image is created with instance snapshot if instance is booted using volume

2014-06-25 Thread Michael Still
This sounds like something which should be reported as a bug. You do that at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+filebug Cheers, Michael On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Agrawal, Ankit ankit11.agra...@nttdata.com wrote: Hi All, When I boot an instance from volume and the take snapshot of that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Timeline for the rest of the Juno release

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Still
- but I don't see the harm in letting specs be submitted to the K directory for early review / feedback during that period ? Phil -Original Message- From: Michael Still [mailto:mi...@stillhq.com] Sent: 24 June 2014 09:59 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Timeline for the rest of the Juno release

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Still
, Michael Still wrote: Phil -- I really want people to focus their efforts on fixing bugs in that period was the main thing. The theory was if we encouraged people to work on specs for the next release, then they'd be distracted from fixing the bugs we need fixed in J. Cheers, Michael

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] locked instances and snaphot

2014-06-19 Thread Michael Still
It might be a good idea to add a comment to the RPC layer for the snapshot call explaining why we haven't implemented a lock check. That would reduce future confusion as well. Cheers, Michael On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:06 AM, melanie witt melw...@outlook.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2014, at 13:34,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-18 Thread Michael Still
Kenichi has now been added to the nova-core group in gerrit. Welcome aboard! Michael On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi. I'm going to let this sit for another 24 hours, and then we'll declare it closed. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:16

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-17 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I'm going to let this sit for another 24 hours, and then we'll declare it closed. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 08:40 +1000, Michael Still wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Ken'ichi Ohmichi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] locked instances and snaphot

2014-06-17 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Ahmed RAHAL ara...@iweb.com wrote: Le 2014-06-16 15:28, melanie witt a écrit : The more I think about it, the more I get to think that locking is just there to avoid mistakes, not voluntary misbehaviour. I agree. You have a really important instance, so you

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] locked instances and snaphot

2014-06-16 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:28 AM, melanie witt melw...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, Recently a nova bug [1] was opened where the user describes a scenario where an instance that is locked is still able to be snapshotted (create image and backup). In the case of Trove, instances are locked

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Still
Greetings, I would like to nominate Ken'ichi Ohmichi for the nova-core team. Ken'ichi has been involved with nova for a long time now. His reviews on API changes are excellent, and he's been part of the team that has driven the new API work we've seen in recent cycles forward. Ken'ichi has also

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Review guidelines for API patches

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 6/12/2014 5:58 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com mailto:mi...@stillhq.com

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Review guidelines for API patches

2014-06-12 Thread Michael Still
In light of the recent excitement around quota classes and the floating ip pollster, I think we should have a conversation about the review guidelines we'd like to see for API changes proposed against nova. My initial proposal is: - API changes should have an associated spec - API changes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] [Nova/Olso] Periodic task coalescing

2014-06-12 Thread Michael Still
Sorry, didn't notice the list changed. On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Tom Cammann tom.camm...@hp.com wrote: Hello, I'm addressing https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1326020 which is dealing with periodic tasks

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nova] ssh timeout bug status update

2014-06-11 Thread Michael Still
I'll add this bug (and thread) to the agenda for the nova meeting tomorrow. Michael On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@noironetworks.com wrote: I wanted to update people on this bug [1], which until the weekend was affecting the gate. After spending a week and a half

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Gate still backed up - need assistance with nova-network logging enhancements

2014-06-10 Thread Michael Still
https://review.openstack.org/99002 adds more logging to nova/network/manager.py, but I think you're not going to love the debug log level. Was this the sort of thing you were looking for though? Michael On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Based on some back of

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Team meeting this week

2014-06-05 Thread Michael Still
Hi. This is a reminder that we will have a meeting today at 21:00 UTC. The agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting Cheers, Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] Mid-cycle sprints: a tracking page to rule them all

2014-06-05 Thread Michael Still
Thierry, you couldn't find the nova midcycle meetup because the final details haven't been announced yet. I hope to fix that tomorrow. Cheers, Michael On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hey everyone, With all those mid-cycle sprints being proposed I

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Mid cycle meetup

2014-06-05 Thread Michael Still
Hi! Nova will hold its Juno mid cycle meetup between July 28 and 30, at an Intel campus in Beaverton, OR (near Portland). There is a wiki page with more details here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BeavertonJunoSprint I'll update that wiki page as we nail down more details. There's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Juno-1 Push and the J-1 (Soft)FeatureProposalFreeze

2014-06-01 Thread Michael Still
Thanks for chasing the specs / blueprints process John -- its much appreciated. Michael On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 3:41 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: Hi, Juno-1 release date is now less than two weeks away: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule In this weeks

[openstack-dev] [nova][vmware] Current state of the spawn refactor

2014-05-27 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I've been looking at the current state of the vmware driver spawn refactor work, and as best as I can tell phase one is now complete. However, I can only find one phase two patch, and it is based on an outdated commit. That patch is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87002/ There also

[openstack-dev] [nova] Reminder, nova meeting this week

2014-05-21 Thread Michael Still
Heya! This is just a gentle reminder that there will be a nova meeting on Thursday at 21:00 UTC. The agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting -- feel free to add things I've missed. As a new value add, if you add your IRC nick to the list on that page

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 3rd party CI requirements for DB2

2014-05-20 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: I'd like to get some more discussion going for the nova-spec on adding DB2 support [1] especially since we didn't get to the topic for

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Team meeting this week

2014-05-08 Thread Michael Still
Hi, so we should have a meeting today week at 21:00 UTC. The agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting Cheers, Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [VMware]How can I put my proposals for VMware drivers in the VMware driver session?

2014-05-05 Thread Michael Still
The way to go is probably to put them into the etherpad for that session, which is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-nova-vmware-driver-roadmap Cheers, Michael On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Sheng Bo Hou sb...@cn.ibm.com wrote: Hi VMware folks, How can I put my proposals for VMware

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fyi: summit etherpad instances created

2014-05-02 Thread Michael Still
Additionally, if there are any blueprints / specs related to your session please include them in a list at the start of the etherpad. That will help people to have read up on the specs before the session. Thanks for creating these etherpads Daniel! Michael On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Daniel

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Summit schedule draft

2014-05-01 Thread Michael Still
This is now done. Sorry for the delay. Michael On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi ken1ohmi...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-28 11:00 GMT+09:00 Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com: On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Summit schedule draft

2014-05-01 Thread Michael Still
Fixed. I've swapped the image precaching and live upgrade sessions. Hopefully this hasn't caused problems for any image precaching peoples. Michael On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote: On 28/04/14 05:02, Michael Still wrote: Hi. I've just pushed a draft

[openstack-dev] [nova] No meeting this week

2014-05-01 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I was intending to run a nova meeting this week, but I don't think its worth a mutiny over the off week that the rest of the project is respecting. The only agenda items I can think of are: - please prepare your summit sessions - I've attempted to fix the clashes in scheduling that are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] No meeting this week

2014-05-01 Thread Michael Still
Yeah, I feel bad that we haven't had one in three weeks now -- its definitely a thing I am not happy with. Next week for sure. Michael On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 5/1/2014 1:58 AM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. I was intending to run

Re: [openstack-dev] SR-IOV summit session

2014-04-30 Thread Michael Still
Yes, exactly. Don't write a presentation, come with a plan in bullet points in an etherpad, and be prepared to have an active discussion about how that plan might change... If you'd like I am sure people here would be happy to pre-review an etherpad to make sure you're on the right track.

[openstack-dev] [nova] Summit schedule draft

2014-04-27 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I've just pushed a draft summit schedule to sched.org. I'd be interested in people who proposed a session that was accepted checking if their session time clashes with other commitments that they have, as well as people who are passionate about a given proposal ensuring that they're available

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Summit schedule draft

2014-04-27 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks for the schedule draft. I'd like to pick one comment about it. Now sessions related to Nova v3 API are scheduled like: - 5:20pm May 14: Nova V3 API - 5:00pm May 15: Nova V2 on V3 API

[openstack-dev] [nova] No meeting tomorrow

2014-04-24 Thread Michael Still
Hi. Given no one has volunteered to run the meeting and I can't make it because of travel, let's skip this weeks meeting. We'll have one next week for sure! Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] No meeting tomorrow

2014-04-24 Thread Michael Still
, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi. Given no one has volunteered to run the meeting and I can't make it because of travel, let's skip this weeks meeting. We'll have one next week for sure! Michael -- Rackspace Australia

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler related sessions for the Juno summit

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I just want to be honest here and set expectations. The entire nova track has 27 slots this summit. We need to cover all of the drivers, the transition from nova-network to neutron, the v3 API, and a bunch of other stuff. I can't see a quarter of our slots being used for scheduler topics. At

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [qa] EC2 status and call for assistance

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Randy Bias ran...@cloudscaling.com wrote: ... I’d like to recommend we move them into Stackforge as we did with the GCE APIs. That way these can become optional components installed by those who want to use them. The other advantage is that they can be

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [qa] EC2 status and call for assistance

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: So no one is seriously discussing moving EC2 out of nova right now. The issue is that the EC2 code and tempest tests aren't being maintained are slowly code rotting. The goal of this thread is to get some volunteers to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-specs and python-novaclient

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: John originally mentioned this on the review, but Phil and I both seem to agree. Most novaclient work can just be a work item of a nova blueprint. How about we just handle it that way? For those cases where that's

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-specs and python-novaclient

2014-04-22 Thread Michael Still
My biggest concern with your proof of concept is that it would require all outstanding blueprints to do a rebase, which sounds painful. Could we perhaps create a subdirectory for novaclient, and keep the nova stuff at the top level until most things have landed? Michael On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][blueprint] Accelerate the booting process of a number of vms via VMThunder

2014-04-17 Thread Michael Still
If you'd like to have a go at implementing this in nova's Juno release, then you need to create a new-style blueprint in the nova-specs repository. You can find more details about that process at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Nova Some initial thoughts though, some of which have

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo removal of use_tpool conf option

2014-04-17 Thread Michael Still
It looks to me like this was removed in oslo in commit a33989e7a2737af757648099cc1af6c642b6e016, which was synced with nova in 605749ca12af969ac122008b4fa14904df68caf7 (however, I can't see the change being listed in the commit message for nova, which I assume is a process failure). That change

[openstack-dev] TC Candidacy

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I'd also like to announce my TC candidacy. I am currently a member of the TC, and I would like to continue to serve. I first started hacking on Nova during the Diablo release, with my first code contributions appearing in the Essex release. Since then I've hacked mostly on Nova and Oslo,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote: On 04/14/2014 06:58 AM, Michael Still wrote: First off, thanks for electing me as the Nova PTL for Juno. Congratulations Michael. * I promised to look at mentoring newcomers. The first step there is working out

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Cancelling the nova meeting for this week

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Still
Hi. Easter is this coming weekend for many countries, so many people are going to be away or at least winding down for the long weekend. Let's skip the nova meeting this week and let people have a bit of a break. Thanks, Michael -- Rackspace Australia

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] Gerrit spec reviews

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/15/2014 05:14 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: 2. Nova has a subset of the core-team which can actually approve BPs, is this correct? Correct. The team is nova-drivers [1]. This is the team that assisted me with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL -- possible mid cycle meetup dates

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Hugh O. Brock hbr...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 09:30:45AM +1200, Robert Collins wrote: Redhat offered to host the next TripleO midcycle meetup in Raleigh, I don't know if they have space for Nova TripleO at once, but I'd love to get more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL -- possible mid cycle meetup dates

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 16 April 2014 11:28, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Hugh O. Brock hbr...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 09:30:45AM +1200, Robert Collins wrote: Redhat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL

2014-04-14 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: First off, thanks for electing me as the Nova PTL for Juno. I find the First off, congrats! Thanks! * a mid cycle meetup. I think the Icehouse

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL

2014-04-14 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Thanks for taking the time to read this email, and please do let me know if you think this sort of communication is useful. Hi. I just want to thank the ten or so people who've privately replied to this email

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Still
First off, thanks for electing me as the Nova PTL for Juno. I find the outcome of the election both flattering and daunting. I'd like to thank Dan and John for running as PTL candidates as well -- I strongly believe that a solid democratic process is part of what makes OpenStack so successful, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][nova][docker]

2014-04-11 Thread Michael Still
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/11/2014 04:58 PM, Sean Dague wrote: [snip] If we think it's staying in 3rd party, people are free to use whatever they would like. I guess we should be clear on this point. I *really* think the best way

Re: [openstack-dev] Operators Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

2014-04-06 Thread Michael Still
It might be that this is happening because there is no clear incumbent for the Nova PTL position. Is it ok to hold off on this until after the outcome of the election is known? Michael On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote: So far, there's been no comment from

[openstack-dev] [Nova] PTL Candidacy

2014-03-28 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I would like to run for the OpenStack Compute PTL position as well. I have been an active nova developer since late 2011, and have been a core reviewer for quite a while. I am currently serving on the Technical Committee, where I have recently been spending my time liaising with the board

[openstack-dev] [nova] Some thoughts on the nova-specs design process

2014-03-16 Thread Michael Still
Hi. So I've written a blueprint for nova for Juno, and uploaded it to nova-specs (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80865/). That got me thinking about what this process might look like, and this is what I came up with: * create a launchpad blueprint * you write a proposal in the nova-specs repo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Some thoughts on the nova-specs design process

2014-03-16 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:58 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi. So I've written a blueprint for nova for Juno, and uploaded it to nova-specs (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80865/). That got me thinking

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Some thoughts on the nova-specs design process

2014-03-16 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: To accommodate those who happen to find the blueprint first, I think we need a link from the blueprint to the nova-specs review or when its approved into the nova-specs repository. I kind of expected the link from the

Re: [openstack-dev] Update on FreeBSD Hypervisor (Bhyve)?

2014-03-10 Thread Michael Still
Wasn't the conclusion last time that it would be best to add bhyve support to libvirt? Michael On 10/03/2014 6:09 PM, Robert Norton rnor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious to see if any progress has been made on supporting FreeBSD and/or the bhyve hypervisor? I haven't seen any updates on this on

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][db][performance] Proposal: Get rid of soft deletion (step by step)

2014-03-10 Thread Michael Still
I see many examples in nova of where we still read rows with read_deleted=yes. I think we need to see a plan for how to remove all of those before we can progress this. Michael On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Johannes Erdfelt johan...@erdfelt.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014, Joshua Harlow

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] FFE Request: Adds PCI support for the V3 API (just one patch in novaclient)

2014-03-05 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Tian, Shuangtai shuangtai.t...@intel.com wrote: Hi, I would like to make a request for FFE for one patch in novaclient for PCI V3 API : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75324/ [snip] BTW the PCI Patches in V2 will defer to Juno. I'm confused. If this isn't

[openstack-dev] Nova gate currently broken

2014-03-04 Thread Michael Still
Hi. You might have noticed that the nova gate is currently broken. I believe this is related to an oslo.messaging release today, and have proposed a fix at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77844/ Cheers, Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-04 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: What I'd like to do next is work through a new proposal that includes keeping both v2 and v3, but with a new added focus of minimizing the cost. This should include a path away from the dual code bases and to something like

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Michael Still
I think its also pretty unfair on the people who put a lot of work into the v3 API. We're seriously going to delete their code after they put a year into it? To me OpenStack isn't just the users, its also the development community. I think we do measurable harm to that development community by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: There has been quite a bit of discussion about the future of the v3 API recently. There has been growing support for the idea that we should change course and focus on evolving the existing v2 API instead of putting out

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