Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] git-Integration working group

2013-11-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/22/2013 09:51 PM, Adrian Otto wrote: Monty, On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/22/2013 05:37 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: Hello all, I would like to kickoff the Git integration discussion. Goal of this subgroup is to go through the git

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/25/2013 04:23 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2013-11-24 21:00:58 -0800: Hi All, TL;DR Last week the gate got wedged on nondeterministic failures. Unwedging the gate required drastic actions to fix bugs. snip (great write-up, thank you for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/25/2013 12:39 PM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: Hi, Just for clarification for Windows images, I think Windows image creation is closer to Docker approach. In order to create a special Windows image we use KVM\QEMU VM with initial base image, then install all necessary components,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Schduler] Volunteers wanted for a modest proposal for an external scheduler in our lifetime

2013-12-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/02/2013 09:13 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 11/29/2013 10:01 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Robert Collins wrote: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-external-scheduler Just looked into it with release management / TC hat on and I have a (possibly minor) concern on the deprecation

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/02/2013 04:12 PM, Jarret Raim wrote: The TC is currently working on formalizing requirements for new programs and projects [3]. I figured I would give them a try against this application. First, I'm assuming that the application is for a new program that contains the new project.

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/02/2013 05:09 PM, Jarret Raim wrote: * Process ** Project must be hosted under stackforge (and therefore use git as its VCS) I see that barbican is now on stackforge, but python-barbicanclient is still on github. Is that being moved soon? ** Project must obey OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] MySQL Storage Engine

2013-12-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/04/2013 03:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Paul Montgomery's message of 2013-12-04 12:04:06 -0800: TLDR: Should Solum log a warning if operators do not use the InnoDB storage engine with MySQL in Solum's control plane? Details: I was looking at:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Heater Proposal

2013-12-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Why not just use glance? On 12/04/2013 06:34 PM, Tim Schnell wrote: Hi Heaters, We would like to start a dialog on the general direction of the proposed Heater project: blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/heat-template-repo wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/htr

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-06 Thread Monty Taylor
here [2] and here [3] respectively. [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60427/ [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39929 [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57880 Thanks, John From: Monty Taylor [mord...@inaugust.com] Sent: Thursday, December

[openstack-dev] Behavior change around the PyPI mirror and openstack/requirements

2013-12-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! Things keep getting more complex around here, so we keep doing more stuffs. Up until today, a project's forced participation on the OpenStack PyPI Mirror (pypi.openstack.org) while in the gate was controllled by the project being prefixed with openstack/. Well, that's clearly not rich

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/07/2013 06:48 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Nicolas Barcet's message of 2013-12-07 01:33:01 -0800: On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: So what is needed is domain specific command execution and segregation of capabilities. To further this, I

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Monty Taylor
- and the admins of the site need not know _anything_ about salt, puppet or chef - only about trove or savana. Sent from my really tiny device... On Dec 7, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 12/07/2013 06:48 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Nicolas Barcet's message

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Keystoneclient tests to tempest

2013-12-08 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi! Thanks - I've been wanting to kill this for a long time. Thanks for starting the discussion... On 12/08/2013 07:26 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: We'd like to get the keystoneclient tests out of keystone. They're serving a useful purpose of catching problems with non-backwards compatible

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate proposal - drop Postgresql configurations in the gate

2014-06-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/12/2014 08:36 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/12/2014 10:38 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On 6/12/14, 8:26 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Thu, Jun 12 2014, Sean Dague wrote: That's not cacthable in unit or functional tests? Not in an accurate manner, no. Keeping jobs alive based on the theory that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Swift][third-party] Most Third Party CI's failing

2014-06-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/14/2014 09:39 PM, Sukhdev Kapur wrote: Oppss...sorry wrong link... please use this http://paste.openstack.org/show/84073/. If anybody needs help, please ping me or go to #openstack-infra. The relevant patch has been merged into upstream setuptools and a new setuptools release,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Adopting pylockfile

2014-06-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/23/2014 11:24 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 06/23/2014 10:02 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 06/23/2014 08:41 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: Hi there, We discovered a problem in pylockfile recently, and after discussing with

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/20/2014 02:33 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: After seeing a bunch of code changes to enforce new hacking rules, I'd like to propose dropping some of the rules we have. The overall patch series is here -

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/22/2014 02:49 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 22 June 2014 14:41, Amrith Kumar amr...@tesora.com wrote: In addition to making changes to the hacking rules, why don't we mandate also that perceived problems in the commit message shall not be an acceptable reason to -1 a change. -1.

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Python 3.3 Gate is Passing!

2014-06-27 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/27/2014 08:20 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 26/06/14 15:40 +, Kurt Griffiths wrote: Hi everyone, I just wanted to to congratulate Nataliia on making Marconi one of the first OS project to pass the py33 gate! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEQrZiCMAAbfEX.png:large Now, let’s make

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][oslo][neutron] Need help getting oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a2 in global requirements

2014-07-01 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/30/2014 02:28 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 16:52 +, Paul Michali (pcm) wrote: I have out for review 103536 to add this version to global requirements, so that Neutron has an oslo fix (review 102909) for encoding failure, which affects some gate runs. This review

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Commit messages and lawyer speak

2014-07-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/07/2014 08:18 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: Hi John, There's a thread started on the legal-discuss list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/legal-discuss/2014-July/000304.html Probably want to follow along there. Hi! a) I agree with Anne - so I have responded there. b) I agree with Robert

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] pypi-mirror is now unsupported - what do we do now?

2014-07-13 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/10/2014 02:44 PM, Richard Jones wrote: On 10 July 2014 23:27, Mulcahy, Stephen stephen.mulc...@hp.com wrote: When I last tested bandersnatch, it didn’t work well behind a proxy (in fact most of the existing pypi mirroring tools suffered from the same problem) – pypi-mirror has worked

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-07-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/16/2014 07:27 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Jul 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 08:12:47AM -0700, Clark Boylan wrote: I am worried that we would just regress to the current process because we have tried something similar

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] The gate: a failure analysis

2014-07-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/28/2014 02:32 PM, Angus Lees wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:22:07 AM Doug Hellmann wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Angus Lees g...@inodes.org wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 04:39:49 PM David Kranz wrote: On 07/21/2014 04:13 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 07/21/2014 02:03 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] so what do i do about libvirt-python if i'm on precise?

2014-07-30 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/30/2014 03:34 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-07-30 13:21:10 -0700 (-0700), Joe Gordon wrote: While forcing people to move to a newer version of libvirt is doable on most environments, do we want to do that now? What is the benefit

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt][baremetal] Nova Baremetal's Usage of Components from Libvirt

2014-08-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/04/2014 03:54 PM, Solly Ross wrote: Hello All, So, I'm working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111459/, and have encountered an issue. It seems that the Nova Baremetal driver uses the ImageCacheManager from the Libvirt driver. For various reasons (see the commit), the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network - Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/05/2014 09:18 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Hello stackers, TC, Neutron contributors, At the Nova mid-cycle meetup last week in Oregon, during the discussion about the future of nova-network, the topic of nova-network - Neutron migration came up. For some reason, I had been clueless about the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network - Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/05/2014 09:34 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote on 08/05/2014 12:27:14 PM: On 08/05/2014 09:18 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Hello stackers, TC, Neutron contributors, At the Nova mid-cycle meetup last week in Oregon, during the discussion about the future

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-05 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/05/2014 09:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the ultimate success or failure of OpenStack. With this cycle we hit new limits in our processes,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][design] review based conceptual design process

2014-04-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/15/2014 11:44 AM, Robert Collins wrote: I've been watching the nova process, and I think its working out well - it certainly addresses: - making design work visible - being able to tell who has had input - and providing clear feedback to the designers I'd like to do the same thing

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consuming keystoneclient's Session object in novaclient

2014-05-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/07/2014 03:10 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Jamie Lennox jamielen...@redhat.com mailto:jamielen...@redhat.com wrote: All, TL;DR: novaclient should be able to use the common transport/auth layers of keystoneclient. If it does there are going to be

Re: [openstack-dev] A proposal for code reduction

2014-05-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/21/2014 06:56 AM, Christian Berendt wrote: On 05/21/2014 01:34 PM, Clark, Robert Graham wrote: If you weren’t already aware of it there’s some great content here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo https://github.com/openstack/oslo.test You may also want to check and see if

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Joshua Hesketh for infra-core

2014-05-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/21/2014 04:57 PM, James E. Blair wrote: The Infrastructure program has a unique three-tier team structure: contributors (that's all of us!), core members (people with +2 ability on infra projects in Gerrit) and root members (people with administrative access). Read all about it here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Nikita Konovalov for storyboard-core

2014-05-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/21/2014 04:31 PM, James E. Blair wrote: Nikita Konovalov has been reviewing changes to both storyboard and storyboard-webclient for some time. He is the second most active storyboard reviewer and is very familiar with the codebase (having written a significant amount of the server

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Sergey Lukjanov for infra-root

2014-05-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/21/2014 04:42 PM, James E. Blair wrote: The Infrastructure program has a unique three-tier team structure: contributors (that's all of us!), core members (people with +2 ability on infra projects in Gerrit) and root members (people with administrative access). Read all about it here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Hide CI comments in Gerrit

2014-05-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/25/2014 05:23 AM, Radoslav Gerganov wrote: Hi, I created a small userscript that allows you to hide CI comments in Gerrit. That way you can read only comments written by humans and hide everything else. I’ve been struggling for a long time to follow discussions on changes with many

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Anita Kuno for project-config-core

2014-09-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/26/2014 08:34 AM, James E. Blair wrote: I'm pleased to nominate Anito Kuno to the project-config core team. The project-config repo is a constituent of the Infrastructure Program and has a core team structured to be a superset of infra-core with additional reviewers who specialize in

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Andreas Jaeger for project-config-core

2014-09-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/26/2014 08:35 AM, James E. Blair wrote: I'm pleased to nominate Andreas Jaeger to the project-config core team. The project-config repo is a constituent of the Infrastructure Program and has a core team structured to be a superset of infra-core with additional reviewers who specialize

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Sean Dague for project-config-core

2014-09-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/26/2014 08:35 AM, James E. Blair wrote: I'm pleased to nominate Sean Dague to the project-config core team. The project-config repo is a constituent of the Infrastructure Program and has a core team structured to be a superset of infra-core with additional reviewers who specialize in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-10-03 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: -Original Message- From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack

[openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2014-10-07 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi everybody! I'd like to announce my candidacy for re-election to the TC. tl;dr - Vote for me or vote for someone else you prefer I've been around the project for quite a while, having been on the phone calls where we were discussing the name OpenStack - although I'll admit I had absolutely

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-10-07 Thread Monty Taylor
) From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@outlook.com] Sent: 07 October 2014 12:21 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monty Taylor mord

Re: [openstack-dev] Usage of @author tags in the header of Python files

2014-10-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/08/2014 10:45 AM, John Griffith wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:15 AM, David Lyle dkly...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see any need nor benefit from the tags. We should remove them if convenient. David On Oct 8, 2014 3:02 AM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] disambiguating the term discovery

2014-10-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/20/2014 07:11 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, I was reminded in the Ironic meeting today that the words hardware discovery are overloaded and used in different ways by different people. Since this is something we are going to talk about at the summit (again), I'd like to

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Proposal - add support for Markdown for docs

2014-10-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/21/2014 10:37 AM, Collins, Sean wrote: I do see mentions of gh-pages in the build_docs.sh script - is devstack.org redirect to GitHub? Nope - it used to be. It's now built and published like the rest of openstack docs. Now - I don't want to get in the way of the work you're wanting to

Re: [openstack-dev] FreeBSD host support

2014-10-27 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/27/2014 06:39 AM, Michael Still wrote: On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, Roman Bogorodskiy rbogorods...@mirantis.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bogorodskiy

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-30 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/30/2014 04:45 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2014-10-29 18:37:42 -0700: On 2014-10-29 18:27:48 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: IIRC, there is no method for removing foundation members. So there are likely a number of people listed who have moved on to

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Finalizing cross-project design summit track

2014-10-30 Thread Monty Taylor
omission: the SDK. In the Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise thread [0] having a real SDK was one of the top answers. Many folks had great responses that clearly explained the issues end users are having [1]. As for who could lead a session like this I have two ideas: Monty Taylor, who had one of the most

Re: [openstack-dev] MOS Infra weekly report (29 Oct 2014 - 31 Oct 2014)

2014-11-01 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/31/2014 05:03 PM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: Heh, wrong mailing list :( Now I know your sekrits... On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi colleagues, here you can find the weekly report for MOS Infra activity -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/12/2014 02:17 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 11/11/14 10:53, Jiri Tomasek wrote: Hey, Thanks for writing this up! The Storyboard project has successfully integrated these tools into the OpenStack CI environment. OpenStack CI and distributors are different, because OpenStack CI does

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/12/2014 02:40 AM, Richard Jones wrote: On 12 November 2014 18:17, Matthias Runge mru...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/11/14 10:53, Jiri Tomasek wrote: Hey, Thanks for writing this up! The Storyboard project has successfully integrated these tools into the OpenStack CI environment.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/23/2014 06:13 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 24 November 2014 at 11:01, victor stinner victor.stin...@enovance.com wrote: Hi, I'm happy to announce you that I just finished the last piece of the puzzle to add support for trollius coroutines in Oslo Messaging! See my two changes: * Add

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/24/2014 12:36 PM, Lance Bragstad wrote: We are in the process of removing XML support from Keystone [1] and have provided configuration options to Tempest for testing XML in older releases [2]. However, the identity client is still tightly coupled to XML test cases. We can either fix

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Anyone Using the Open Solaris ZFS Driver?

2014-11-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/24/2014 10:14 AM, Drew Fisher wrote: On 11/17/14 10:27 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: Is the new driver drop-in compatible with the old one? IF not, can existing systems be upgraded to the new driver via some manual steps, or is it basically a completely new driver with similar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/25/2014 03:40 PM, Richard Jones wrote: On Wed Nov 26 2014 at 3:36:27 AM Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/21/2014 08:31 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: I'm not sure I understand the meaning behind this question.

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV][Telco] pxe-boot

2014-11-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/25/2014 05:33 PM, Angelo Matarazzo wrote: Hi all, my team and I are working on pxe boot feature very similar to the Discless VM one in Active blueprint list[1] The blueprint [2] is no longer active and we created a new spec [3][4]. Nova core reviewers commented our spec and the

Re: [openstack-dev] [docs] Older Developer documentation Icehouse? Havana?

2014-12-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/02/2014 06:14 AM, Russell Sim wrote: Hi, From what I can see it seems like the developer documentation available on the OpenStack website is generated from the git repositories. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-projects.html Are older versions of this documentation

Re: [openstack-dev] tags to deleted branches

2013-06-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/18/2013 12:09 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote: I notice on some projects like nova and quantum (I presume with milestone proposed commits) that the 2013.2.b1 tag was created on the now removed milestone-proposed branch. Therefore `git describe` and `git log --decorate` etc. on master,

Re: [openstack-dev] The future of run_tests.sh

2013-06-21 Thread Monty Taylor
/#/c/33456/) but keep run_test.sh for the time being as there are things it does that we don't have simple ways of doing yet. Since run_tests.sh will be around for a while it does make sense to move it into oslo. best, Joe On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Monty Taylor mord

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/24/2013 05:50 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Official OpenStack projects are those under the oversight of the Technical Committee, and contributing to one grants you ATC status (which in turn you use to elect the Technical Committee members). The list of official projects

Re: [openstack-dev] Termination of the title line of commit messages

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/24/2013 05:56 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 22:50 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, Pulling this out of gerrit for discussion. Background is one of my patches to diskimage-builder was -1ed because I terminated the title line of the commit message with a period:

Re: [openstack-dev] Termination of the title line of commit messages

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/24/2013 06:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/24/2013 06:15 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 06/24/2013 05:56 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 22:50 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, Pulling this out of gerrit for discussion. Background is one of my patches to diskimage

Re: [openstack-dev] defaults: making OpenStack work out of the box.

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/29/2013 08:48 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On the other hand, we're finding a large chunk of the work we're doing is changing defaults.

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/25/2013 12:42 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Anne Gentle wrote: Dare I ask, what about TryStack? Infra seems to get a ton under it but that's where I'd place it if I had to state a preference. I'd see TryStack as a separate program, with the goal of maintaining an infrastructure that

Re: [openstack-dev] Build-time unit tests failing when building glance 2013.2.b1

2013-06-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/29/2013 02:14 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 06/30/2013 12:16 AM, Mark Washenberger wrote: Hi Thomas, We switched to using entrypoints for creating our binaries. Can you explain this a bit more? Unfortunately, this means you need to have the glance version installed in some sense in

Re: [openstack-dev] Build-time unit tests failing when building glance 2013.2.b1

2013-06-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/29/2013 08:02 PM, John Bresnahan wrote: I believe we should fix the unittests to not shell out to glance-manage in that manner. One of the nice things about moving the code from bin/ to glance.cmd is that it's available inside of the source tree for unittests! :) What we want to do is

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-30 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/27/2013 12:54 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 06/27/2013 05:04 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: Let's do it! (On Thierry's timetable so that we get valuable practice talking about onboarding programs.) Sounds good to me as long as we all agree that Localization/Translations are a technical

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Removing the .mo files from Horizon git

2013-07-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/02/2013 01:13 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:58 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Thomas Goirand wrote: So, shouldn't the .mo files be generated at build time only, and be kept out of the Git? +1 Yep, agree too. Interestingly, last time I checked, devstack

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Basic definition of OpenStack Programs and first batch

2013-07-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/02/2013 05:46 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 2 July 2013 21:32, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Thierry Carrez

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-03 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/03/2013 07:26 AM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.me wrote: Question: Why we should put in oslo slqlalchemy-migrate monkey patches, when we are planing to switch to

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-03 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/02/2013 10:50 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: ### Goal ### We should fix

[openstack-dev] heads up - upstream pip/virtualenv/setuptools upgrades may cause some hiccups

2013-07-05 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! A few things are happening in the world of python that are have an impact on us. The end story is good, and things are getting both simpler and better (and in a few weeks - MUCH faster for many of us) ... in the mean time, there may be some evil bunny rabbits. tl;dr - your virtualenv

Re: [openstack-dev] [Metrics][Nova] Using Bicho database to get stats about code review

2013-07-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/04/2013 06:49 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 07/03/2013 06:14 PM, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote: Bicho [1] now has a Gerrit backend, which has been tested with OpenStack's Gerrit. We have used it to produce the MySQL database dump available at [2] ( gerrit.mysql.7z ). You can use it

[openstack-dev] Program Description for OpenStack Infrastructure

2013-07-08 Thread Monty Taylor
As per the recent TC decision around programs, the existing programs need to provide a name, acting PTL and Mission Statement. Enjoy: Official Title: OpenStack Infrastructure PTL: Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com Mission Statement: Develop and maintain the tooling and infrastructure needed

[openstack-dev] Program Proposal: refstack

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, I'd like to propose an official program to the TC - refstack, a program for verifying interoperability between implementations via FITS testing. Official Title: OpenStack Interoperability Initial PTL: Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com Mission Statement: Develop and maintain FITS

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: refstack

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
. On Jul 9, 2013 8:03 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: Hey all, I'd like to propose an official program to the TC - refstack, a program for verifying interoperability between implementations via FITS testing. Official Title: OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] HACKING and new-style relative imports

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/09/2013 10:55 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Kieran Spear kisp...@gmail.com mailto:kisp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, There's a review up to make Horizon pass H304 (no relative imports): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35664/ Old-style

Re: [openstack-dev] Openstack/Devstack + nginx + scalability

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/09/2013 02:05 PM, Geronimo Orozco wrote: Hi, I am very interested in scalabity and HA with horizon is there any effort to provide nginx to devstack(for start) ? I'm not sure that devstack is going to be the best place to poke at scaling concerns or HA concerns for horizon. (the best way

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 02:40 PM, David Ripton wrote: OpenStack is currently divided. Older projects like Nova use sqlalchemy-migrate. Some newer projects like Neutron use alembic. I'd personally like to see everything in Alembic, but migrating all the Nova scripts in a way that didn't break

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 03:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 07/11/2013 02:40 PM, David Ripton wrote: OpenStack is currently divided. Older projects like Nova use sqlalchemy-migrate. Some newer projects like Neutron use alembic. I'd personally like to see everything in Alembic, but migrating all

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 08:01 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 07/12/2013 07:29 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: We've got the upstream pypi and rtfd credentials now, the project should be moved in to openstack systems soon enough. I also went through and cleaned up build and test stuff work work like our stuff

Re: [openstack-dev] The danger of capping python-*clients in core projects, and forbidding it in the future

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 11:38 PM, Gareth wrote: I heard there's a talk about this issue in #openstack-infra last night (china standard time), what's the conclusion of that? BTW, how to find meeting log of #openstack-infra? I didn't find it in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ We don't log it

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
) and to publish packages to PyPI on tags just like our other projects. Have fun everyone. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: On 07/12/2013 04:29 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 05:20 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 19:49 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing: a) Anyone writing code such as: try: blah() except SomeException: raise

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 05:43 AM, Thomas Hervé wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing: a) Anyone writing code such as: try

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 05:43 AM, Thomas Hervé wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing: a) Anyone writing code such as: try

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 06:22 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 07/11/2013 05:43 AM, Thomas Hervé wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 01:12 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: Just as a general statement, outside the scope of openstack, I don't think sqlite is intended to support schema evolution. From the sqlite docs [1]: SQLite supports a limited subset of ALTER TABLE. [...] It is not possible to rename a column,

Re: [openstack-dev] olso-config dev requirement

2013-07-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/16/2013 11:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com mailto:mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:28 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 11:41 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 07/17/2013 02:35 PM, John Griffith wrote: snip Just to point out a few things here, first off there is no guideline that states a company affiliation should have anything to do with the decision on voting somebody as core. I have ABSOLUTELY NO

Re: [openstack-dev] headsup - transient test failures on py26 ' cannot import name OrderedDict'

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 02:11 AM, Robert Collins wrote: Python 2.6 isn't one of the official supported Pythons for testrepository, and I managed to break that when I fixed tests on Python3.3 (which has more random dicts). So Testrepository 0.0.16 breaks on 2.6, 0.0.17 is fixed. However until the

Re: [openstack-dev] headsup - transient test failures on py26 ' cannot import name OrderedDict'

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 08:54 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: What do you mean in (b) about upstream python not supporting python 2.6? From what I understand here, it's the version of testrepository being used that doesn't support py26, not python itself or openstack. I believe he means that upstream

Re: [openstack-dev] headsup - transient test failures on py26 ' cannot import name OrderedDict'

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 07:20 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Well that's no fun, RedhatEL and centos need python 2.6 support so it amazes/frustrates me that 2.6 can be broke. I think we need to depend on those that are supporting 2.6 to put pressure on upstream dependencies to ensure 2.6 compat. Or

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 12:44 PM, Avishay Traeger wrote: Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote on 07/17/2013 09:40:02 PM: The affiliation of core team members should not come into a decision like this. It is assumed that all core team members are wearing their upstream hat and aren't there merely to

Re: [openstack-dev] Discussing Amazon API compatibility [Nova][Swift]

2013-07-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/24/2013 08:51 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Hello I have seen lots of discussions on blogs and twitter heating up around Amazon API compatibility and OpenStack. This seems like a recurring topic, often raised by pundits and recently joined by members of the community. I think it's

Re: [openstack-dev] Python 3

2013-07-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/23/2013 03:02 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Eric Windisch e...@cloudscaling.com mailto:e...@cloudscaling.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Logan McNaughton lo...@bacoosta.com mailto:lo...@bacoosta.com wrote: I'm sure this has been asked

[openstack-dev] Grenade issues

2013-07-28 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! There is currently an issue with which is causing a very high failure rate in the gate. From IRC: 18:32:19 clarkb | the grenade failures seem to get very consistent in the gate at 2013-0-27 1552UTC 18:32:27 clarkb | before that the success rate is much higher 18:34:53

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev] how to make a lxc image?

2013-07-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/31/2013 03:36 AM, hzguanqiang wrote: Hey Guys, I want to make a lxc image for openstack applying, What should I do? Is there any documents about this? Have you looked at the TripleO program's diskimage-builder? It's right here: https://github.com/stackforge/diskimage-builder

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] how to add unmerged dependency to test-requirements

2013-07-31 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi! Not really. We don't support OpenStack projects having dependencies on unreleased software. What does fwaas come from? Is this part of neutron? On 08/01/2013 01:24 AM, Kuang-Ching Wang wrote: Hi, I am working on fwaas Horizon support, which requires fwaas CLI to work. Since fwaas CLI has

Re: [openstack-dev] Openstack Service requirement

2013-07-31 Thread Monty Taylor
Also, if you're wanting to buld services on top of OpenStack that want to respond to events - you probably want to look in to ceilometer, which has an interface to export such events to you. On 08/01/2013 01:02 AM, Addepalli Srini-B22160 wrote: RPC will send the notifications to the queues that

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