Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] devstack + neutron fails on firewall_driver

2013-08-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/02/2013 01:06 PM, James Kyle wrote: Following up on my own thread, the fix can be integrated into ../stack.sh by adding this to the localrc: # FIXES: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1206013 OSLOCFG_REPO=https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config.git OSLOCFG_BRANCH=1.2.0a3

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][glance] Future of nova's image API

2013-08-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/02/2013 05:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: Hi All, even though Glance, has been pulled out of Nova years ago, Nova still has a images API that proxies back to Glance. Since Nova is in the process of creating a new, V3, API, we know have a chance to re-evaluate this API. * Do we still

[openstack-dev] [Oslo] oslo.version and pbr

2013-08-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! Currently, there is runtime version handling code in pbr. It's been a cause of concern for some folks because it means that pbr becomes a runtime rather than just a build time dependency - so the suggestion has come across that we split it out into its own library. This becomes even

[openstack-dev] New release of pbr - 0.5.21

2013-08-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Normally I don't announce pbr releases, because you should really never notice them (unless they're fixing a bug you happen to be hitting) BUT - this one fixes a long-standing request that I think should make people happy, and there are some flags that folks can take advantage of should they want.

[openstack-dev] Bad hash error

2013-08-04 Thread Monty Taylor
If you hit an error like this: Bad md5 hash for package https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/c/colorama/colorama-0.2.5.tar.gz#md5=c76f67ead9dc7c83700c57695ebb741e (from https://pypi.python.org/simple/colorama/) It means that our friends at colorama have decided to re-release something with

Re: [openstack-dev] Dropping or weakening the 'only import modules' style guideline - H302

2013-08-05 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/05/2013 11:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I wanted to get a temperature reading from everyone on this style guideline. My view on it is that it's a useful heuristic but shouldn't be a golden rule applied everywhere. Things like matches are designed to be used as a dsl:

Re: [openstack-dev] devstack modifying git repository

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey Chmouel! Good point. I think we could add a check to see if there are any changes in the repo and skip the update if there are not. Or, we could protect that action in a variable and have devstack-gate set that variable... what do you guys think? On 08/06/2013 12:56 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah

[openstack-dev] Please release new client library releases

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! As you know, we're been battling the effects of the setuptools/distribute re-merge and upgrade for about a month now. It's mostly settled down, but there are still cases where transitive dependencies on things that depend on things that depend on distribute can screw us. At the moment,

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 02:44 PM, Mate Lakat wrote: Hi, I would say, use a separated virtual environment in devstack - without the --system-site-packages switch, of course, and set it up as a user. Install the packages that are needed in order to be able to pip install them (like libxslt-dev). It's

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 03:46 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation of base images from external OS install sources. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 11:14 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 7 August 2013 11:22, Jay Buffington m...@jaybuff.com wrote: ln -s /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/libvirtmod_qemu.so $(VENV)/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ Why isn't libvirt-python on pypi? AFAICT, nothing is stopping us from

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 11:39 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 7 August 2013 14:36, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:14 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 7 August 2013 11:22, Jay Buffington m...@jaybuff.com wrote: ln -s /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/libvirtmod_qemu.so

Re: [openstack-dev] Motion to start using Gerrit for TC votes

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2013 04:51 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Tue, Aug 06 2013, Monty Taylor wrote: This would allow for clear voting by both the TC and others - is consistent with tooling we ALL know how to use, and has the benefit of producing a clear

Re: [openstack-dev] Motion to start using Gerrit for TC votes

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/07/2013 05:58 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: What if instead we had a repo with a bunch of ReStructureText in it - perhaps a copy of the TC charter and then a dir for additional things the TC has decided. That repo would be autopublished to a non-wiki website

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/07/2013 12:53 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: I agree triple-o will help a lot here although I would disagree that package rollback is an illusion. I would call it more of a hard problem instead since nothing is really impossible :) illusion with current packaging systems yum/rpm and

[openstack-dev] Requirements updates

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
You may have just noticed a bunch of requirements updates patches. These are mostly not urgent - although once jenkins comes back +1 on them, they're safe to merge, because they will have been gated. Right now I'm testing the script that we'll use. Moving forward, patches will be proposed

Re: [openstack-dev] Osl and dangerous code merging

2013-08-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/08/2013 09:04 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 08/08/2013 07:33 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi Mark, Sounds good. Just needs someone willing to implement it. This is very interesting for us. What do you think if we create a fake project that use submodules as an example, and then just

Re: [openstack-dev] Motion to start using Gerrit for TC votes

2013-08-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/08/2013 09:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: I think what Monty might be getting at is that TC decisions would no longer happen by default with people voting at a particular TC meeting. Rather a discussion would happen on the mailing list with people casting their

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/05/2013 02:03 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: [Moving a discussion from https://review.openstack.org/40019 to the ML to get a wider audience] We've been around this block more than once so let's get it all documented in one place and see where to go next. Skip down to # for more

[openstack-dev] Issues with devstack

2013-08-12 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! You may have noticed recently that there are issues running devstack on brand new machines - and if you have noticed that, you may have been asking: - what's the problem? - how the heck did this make it past the gate since we run devstack so often? Well - this is a fun one, and it's

Re: [openstack-dev] proposing Alex Gaynor for core on openstack/requirements

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
+1 On 08/16/2013 11:04 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: I'd like to propose Alex Gaynor for core status on the requirements project. Alex is a core Python and PyPy developer, has strong ties throughout the wider Python community, and has been watching and reviewing requirements changes for a little

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal oslo.db lib

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/16/2013 09:52 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi all, We (OpenStack contributors) done a really huge and great work around DB code in Grizzly and Havana to unify it, put all common parts into oslo-incubator, fix bugs, improve handling of sqla exceptions, provide unique keys, and to use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Replacing Glance DB code to Oslo DB code.

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/16/2013 09:31 AM, Victor Sergeyev wrote: Hello All. Glance cores (Mark Washenberger, Flavio Percoco, Iccha Sethi) have some questions about Oslo DB code, and why is it so important to use it instead of custom implementation and so on. As there were a lot of questions it was really

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/16/2013 02:25 PM, Maru Newby wrote: Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most Neutron developers kept on working as if nothing was wrong, blithely merging changes with no guarantees that they

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] PEP8 public and internal interfaces for keystoneclient

2013-08-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/20/2013 09:26 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: We've been too lax about delineating public and internal interfaces in python-keystoneclient. This makes changes and reviews difficult because we don't know what we can change without breaking applications. For example, we thought we could

Re: [openstack-dev] upgrade tox - now with less slowness!

2013-09-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/04/2013 01:22 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: Hey all! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42178/2 has landed in nova, which means that nova now requires tox 1.6 or higher

[openstack-dev] FFE Request-ish: oslo.version split

2013-09-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, One of the things we were working on this cycle was splitting the version handling code out of pbr into its own library - oslo.version. This work did not make Feature Freeze. I wanted to check in with folks to take temperature about whether it's worth attempting to get it done by the

Re: [openstack-dev] FFE Request-ish: oslo.version split

2013-09-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/06/2013 10:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all, One of the things we were working on this cycle was splitting the version handling code out of pbr into its own library - oslo.version. This work did not make Feature Freeze. I wanted to check in with folks to take

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][oslo] mysql, sqlalchemy and sql_mode

2013-09-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/11/2013 11:09 AM, David Ripton wrote: On 09/11/2013 06:37 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: I'm investigating some issues, where data stored to a text column in mysql is silently truncated if it's too big. It appears that the default configuration of mysql, and the sessions established via

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Questions about plans for heat wadls moving forward

2013-09-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/12/2013 04:33 PM, Steve Baker wrote: On 09/13/2013 08:28 AM, Mike Asthalter wrote: Hello, Can someone please explain the plans for our 2 wadls moving forward: * wadl in original heat repo:

[openstack-dev] Cookiecutter repo for ease in making new projects

2013-09-12 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey everybody! You know how, when you want to make a new project, you basically take an existing one, like nova, copy files, and then start deleting? Nobody likes that. Recently, cookiecutter came to my attention, so we put together a cookiecutter repo for openstack projects to make creating a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][IceHouse] Ceilometer + Kibana + ElasticSearch Integration

2013-09-13 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/12/2013 07:06 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: Hi Folks Is anyone interested in Kibana + ElasticSearch Integration with ceilometer? # Note: This discussion is not for Havana. I, for one, welcome our new ElasticSearch overlords. I have registered BP. (for IceHouse)

Re: [openstack-dev] When will we stop adding new Python modules to requirements

2013-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2013 01:47 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: Falcon was included as a result of Marconi moving from stackforge to being incubated. sphinxcontrib-programoutput doesn't appear to have been added at all, it's still under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46325/ I agree with Alex and

Re: [openstack-dev] python-simplejson 2.0.0 errors

2013-09-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/17/2013 08:06 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 09/17/2013 06:52 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 09/16/2013 10:41 PM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: It's fun out of inter dependencies. Nova depends on python-glanceclient; python-glanceclient depends on warlock=1.0.1,2. warlock depends on

Re: [openstack-dev] stalled bug fixes for vmware driver

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 01:24 PM, Dan Wendlandt wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail..com mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/20/2013

Re: [openstack-dev] Client and Policy

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/19/2013 01:30 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 15:22 -0500, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: I can submit a summit proposal. I was thinking of making it more general than just the Policy piece.

Re: [openstack-dev] Client and Policy

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 02:55 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-09-20 03:16, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 19/09/13 17:10 -0400, Adam Young wrote: On 09/19/2013 04:30 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: To take the specific example of the policy API, if someone actively wanted to help the process of moving it into a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Should file injection work for boot from volume images?

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 02:47 PM, Michael Still wrote: Before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46867/ if file injection of a mandatory file fails, nova just silently ignores the failure, which is clearly wrong. However, that review now can't land because its revealed another failure in the file

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: [Openstack-devel] PGP key signing party during the HK summit

2013-09-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 02:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, Has anyone thought about having a PGP key signing party during the summit? Guys from the Linux kernel thought it was useless, but after the hack of kernel.org, they started to understand it was useful, and now they do have a web of

Re: [openstack-dev] unable to run tox due to the '--pre' argument

2013-09-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/23/2013 12:14 AM, Zhongyue Luo wrote: Looks like this problem happens in systems that use pip1.4 but upgraded tox to 1.6.1 http://tox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/config.html#confval-install_command=ARGV Yes. We have been rolling out tox.ini changes to projects. I'll push one up for

Re: [openstack-dev] Is python setup.py intsall recommended way to install Neutron Server in dev environment?

2013-09-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/23/2013 01:20 PM, Vijay Venkatachalam wrote: Hi, I am new to openstack, please pardon if the questions are dumb. Attempting to run a neutron dev setup with openvswitch plugin with VLAN isolation and 2 hosts. _DISCLAIMER: _I am not using devstack.

[openstack-dev] On the usage of pip vs. setup.py install

2013-09-23 Thread Monty Taylor
tl;dr - easy_install sucks, so use pip It is common practice in python to run: python setup.py install or python setup.py develop So much so that we spend a giant amount of effort to make sure that those always work. Fortunately for us, the underlying mechanism, setuptools, can often be a pile

Re: [openstack-dev] On the usage of pip vs. setup.py install

2013-09-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/24/2013 12:11 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi Monty, On 09/24/2013 09:44 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: Instead of: python setup.py install Run: pip install . No way that this happens on the packaging side. Buildd have no network access (on purpose), and we must not do any network

[openstack-dev] gerrit URL queries I've been finding useful

2013-09-26 Thread Monty Taylor
Just in case these help anyone, I've make a couple of bookmarks to a couple of queries that have really been helping me deal with both my patches, and things I need to review. First of all:

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate issues - what you can do to help

2013-09-27 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/28/2013 12:08 AM, Gareth wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: Right now the gate is extremely full, there are a number of reasons for that. What's more important right now is to try not to make it worse

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Please add oslo.version to your project watches

2013-09-28 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, oslo.version is in gerrit now, which is a split out of the version code from pbr. I'd love if if you'd add oslo.version to your project watches so that patches get love. oslo.sphinx could probably use the same treatment. Monty ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [scheduler] blueprint for host/hypervisor location information

2013-09-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/29/2013 01:02 PM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote on 09/29/2013 02:21:28 AM: Host not hypervisor I think; consider nova baremetal, where hypervisor == machine that runs tftpd and makes IPMI calls, and host == place where the user workload will

[openstack-dev] Requirements syncing job is live

2013-10-01 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! The job to automatically propose syncs from the openstack/requirements repo went live today - as I'm sure you all noticed, since pretty much everyone got a patch of at least some size. The job works the same way as the translations job - it will propose a patch any time the global repo

Re: [openstack-dev] trove is already a source package in Debian and a Python module in PyPi

2013-10-01 Thread Monty Taylor
the risks. Thank you! On 10/02/2013 12:02 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 10/01/2013 11:45 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/01/2013 10:02 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 09:45:17PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Since I have already uploaded python-troveclient (currently waiting

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Tuskar and releases

2013-10-01 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/01/2013 08:08 PM, Robert Collins wrote: We'd like to get tuskar projects doing releases sooner rather than later. For python-tuskarclient, this is pretty much a no-brainer : we just need to start doing it. Yup. Just do it. However, for tuskar-ui and tuskar it's more complex. #

[openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2013-10-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi all! I would like to continue serving the project on the OpenStack TC. Background -- I've been with this bad boy since before day 1, and you can pretty much blame me for trunk gating. You can also blame me for the bzr days - so I'm not going to try to claim that I'm always right. :)

Re: [openstack-dev] Nominating Fei Long Wang for glance core

2013-10-04 Thread Monty Taylor
+1 On 10/03/2013 12:28 AM, Iccha Sethi wrote: Hey, I would like to nominate Fei Long Wang(flwang) for glance core. I think Fei has been an active reviewer/contributor to the glance community [1] and has always been on top of reviews. Thanks for the good work Fei! Iccha [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] Nominating Zhi Yan Liu for glance-core

2013-10-04 Thread Monty Taylor
+1 On 10/03/2013 12:25 AM, Iccha Sethi wrote: Hey, I would like to nominate Zhi Yan Liu(lzydev) for glance core. I think Zhi has been an active reviewer/contributor to the glance community [1] and has always been on top of reviews. Thanks for the good work Zhi! Iccha [1]

[openstack-dev] addCleanup vs. tearDown

2013-10-08 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey! Got a question on IRC which seemed fair game for a quick mailing list post: Q: I see both addCleanup and tearDown in nova's test suite - which one should I use for new code? A: addCleanup All new code should 100% of the time use addCleanup and not tearDown - this is because addCleanups

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/08/2013 11:22 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I don't meant to pick on you personally Jiří, but I have singled this message out because I feel you have captured the objections to Robert's initial email well. Darn. My pop-up window showed I don't meant to pick on you personally so I rushed to go

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/09/2014 03:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. It also would be a reason to prevent

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] JavaScript docs?

2015-02-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/04/2015 12:48 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: I agree. StoryBoard's storyboard-webclient project has a lot of existing code already that's pretty well documented, but without knowing what documentation system we were going to settle on we never put any rule enforcement in place. If someone

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder][neutron][security] Rootwrap on root-intensive nodes

2015-02-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/04/2015 06:57 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 11:58:03AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: The first one is performance -- each call would spawn a Python interpreter which would then call the system command. This was fine when there were just a few calls here and there,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] All rights reserved V.S. Apache license

2015-01-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/17/2015 03:27 AM, ZhiQiang Fan wrote: Hi, developers I have observed that some source code files in our projects have been announced as Copyright xxx, All rights reserved, and then followed by a Apache License Is this right? any conflict? And if one company claims that it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Artifacts] Object Version format: SemVer vs pep440

2015-02-10 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/10/2015 10:28 AM, Alexander Tivelkov wrote: Hi folks, One of the key features that we are adding to Glance with the introduction of Artifacts is the ability to have multiple versions of the same object in the repository: this gives us the possibility to query for the latest version of

Re: [openstack-dev] Removal of copyright statements above the Apache 2.0 license header

2015-02-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/17/2015 07:58 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 01:16:46PM +0100, Christian Berendt wrote: On 02/17/2015 12:05 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: In section 4.(c) the LICENSE text says (c) You must retain, in the Source form of any Derivative Works that

[openstack-dev] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-27 Thread Monty Taylor
I do not like how we are selecting names for our releases right now. The current process is autocratic and opaque and not fun - which is the exact opposite of what a community selected name should be. I propose: * As soon as development starts on release X, we open the voting for the name of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-27 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/27/2015 06:05 PM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: On Jan 27, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: I do not like how we are selecting names for our releases right now. The current process is autocratic and opaque and not fun - which is the exact opposite of what a community

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-28 Thread Monty Taylor
with decisions, however well meaning, that take place outside of the public context. So please accept my apology for my language - and please engage with me in the discussion around how to make sure people don't inadvertently begin to feel disenfranchised. Thanks, Monty On 01/27/2015 04:50 PM, Monty

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/27/2015 10:35 PM, James E. Blair wrote: Lauren Sell lau...@openstack.org writes: Hey Monty, I’d like to weigh in here, because I think there have been some misunderstandings around Lemming-gate. I’m glad you raised your concerns; it’s a good test of release naming for us all to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/29/2015 11:06 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: As a quick preface, today there is the assumption you can upgrade and downgrade your SQL Schema. For the most part we do our best to test all of this in our unit tests (do upgrades and downgrades land us in the same schema). What isn’t clearly

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-30 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/28/2015 06:33 PM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: I can envision turning this driver into a total monster, adding C-speedups where needed but without getting in the way of async patching, adding new APIs for explicit async, and everything

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/28/2015 01:29 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: You'll notice that I did say in my suggestion that ANYONE should be able to propose a name - I believe that would include non-dev people. Since the people in question are marketing people, I would imagine that if any of them

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] requirements-py{2, 3} and universal wheels

2015-03-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/17/2015 09:07 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 03/16/2015 08:32 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 17 March 2015 at 13:22, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2015-03-17 12:54:00 +1300: I've raised this in reviews 157135 and 153966, but I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] requirements-py{2, 3} and universal wheels

2015-03-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/16/2015 08:32 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 17 March 2015 at 13:22, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2015-03-17 12:54:00 +1300: I've raised this in reviews 157135 and 153966, but I think it deserves a thread of its own. I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] how to handle vendor-specific API microversions?

2015-03-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/21/2015 01:21 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: Hi, I've recently been playing around a bit with API microversions and I noticed something that may be problematic. The way microversions are handled, there is a monotonically increasing MAX_API_VERSION value in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] [all] python-glanceclient release 0.16.1

2015-03-05 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/05/2015 12:02 AM, Nikhil Komawar wrote: The python-glanceclient release management team is pleased to announce: python-glanceclient version 0.16.1 has been released on Thursday, Mar 5th around 04:56 UTC. For more information, please find the details at:

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/24/2015 06:05 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Mark McClain's message of 2015-03-24 10:25:31 -0400: Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] What do people think of YAPF (like gofmt, for python)?

2015-03-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/25/2015 05:50 PM, Maru Newby wrote: I am excited by the release of YAPF [1], a gofmt-like too for python. I think it has the potential to simplify style enforcement, and as much as I appreciate our current hacking checks, I’d be much happier not requiring developers to manually conform

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] What do people think of YAPF (like gofmt, for python)?

2015-03-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/27/2015 07:21 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 03/26/2015 06:46 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 27 March 2015 at 09:14, Ryan Brown rybr...@redhat.com wrote: Ooof, that's huge. If we can configure it to be less aggressive I love the *idea* of having everything formatted semantically, but that's

Re: [openstack-dev] The Evolution of core developer to maintainer?

2015-04-01 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/01/2015 05:41 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe Gordon wrote: I am starting this thread based on Thierry's feedback on [0]. Instead of writing the same thing twice, you can look at the rendered html from that patch [1]. Neutron tried to go from core to maintainer but after input from the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo][clients] Let's speed up start of OpenStack libs and clients by optimizing imports with profimp

2015-04-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/02/2015 06:22 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.me wrote: Hi stackers, Recently, I started working on speeding up Rally cli. What I understand immediately is that I don't understand why it takes 700-800ms to just run rally

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra] Use of heat for CI of OpenStack

2015-04-03 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/03/2015 08:55 AM, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: I was wondering.. Is the OpenStack CI/CD Infra using Heat in any way? Do the commits trigger a new build of DevStack/OpenStack that is based on a Heat Template or just the provisioning of a regular instance and then deployment of code on

Re: [openstack-dev] What's Up Doc? Apr 10 2015

2015-04-11 Thread Monty Taylor
Sorry for top posting - I wasn't subscribed to the doc list before clarkb told me about this thread. Warning ... rage coming ... if you don't want to read rage on a Saturday, I recommend skipping this email. a) There may be a doc bug here, but I'm not 100% convinced it's a doc bug - I'll try to

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] New fedora 21 Atomic images available for testing

2015-04-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/26/2015 02:21 PM, Gregory Haynes wrote: Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2015-04-23 23:27:00 +: Hi folks, I have spent the last couple of days trying to bring some sanity to the image building process for Magnum. I have found a tool which the Atomic upstream

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/24/2015 06:28 PM, David Medberry wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: What can and should the TC at large, and you specifically, do to ensure quality improves for the developers, end-users and operators of OpenStack as a full system, both as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/25/2015 09:49 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-25 12:12:15 +1200 (+1200), Robert Collins wrote: [...] I'd like to make that a little more official: - put it in our docs - stop testing python setup.py install. [...] And emit a clear error message? (Even if that just means

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/24/2015 08:12 PM, Robert Collins wrote: In our pbr integration tests we ensure that 'python setup.py install' works, as well as ensuring that 'pip install' works. But see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015525.html - for the last 18 months in pbr we've

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
April 2015 at 15:27, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 04/25/2015 09:49 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-25 12:12:15 +1200 (+1200), Robert Collins wrote: [...] I'd like to make that a little more official: - put it in our docs - stop testing python setup.py install

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/25/2015 11:46 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 04/25/2015 11:33 AM, Dave Walker wrote: I'm not going to pretend it is graceful... but is there a situation where _ isn't correct? Ooh. This is a worthy avenue to explore ... Ok. After some chatting with fungi in IRC - I've got this: https

Re: [openstack-dev] [swift] Go! Swift!

2015-04-30 Thread Monty Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/30/2015 08:06 PM, John Dickinson wrote: On Apr 30, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/30/2015 12:40 PM, John Dickinson wrote: Swift is a scalable and durable storage engine for storing unstructured data. It's

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC][Keystone] Rehashing the Pecan/Falcon/other WSGI debate

2015-05-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/01/2015 09:16 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: Hi all, At around the time Barbican was applying for incubation there was a discussion about supported WSGI frameworks. From memory the decision at the time was that Pecan was to be the only supported framework and that for incubation Barbican

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet][operators] How to specify Keystone v3 credentials?

2015-05-04 Thread Monty Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/04/2015 08:47 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: On 05/04/2015 10:37 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 05/04/2015 07:52 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: On 2015-05-04 9:15 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 05/04/2015 06:03 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: On 2015-05-04

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] who is the ptl of trove?

2015-05-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/08/2015 03:45 AM, Nikhil Manchanda wrote: Comments and answers inline. Li Tianqing writes: [...] 1) why we put the trove vm into user's tenant, not the trove's tenant? User can login on that vm, and that vm must connect to rabbitmq. It is quite insecure. what's

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] regular releases, and path to 1.0

2015-05-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/04/2015 03:53 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, I'd like to talk about how often we can and should release pbr, and what criteria we should use for 1.0. tl;dr: release weekly [outside of organisation-wide-freezes], do a 1.0 immediately. pbr, like all our libraries affects everything

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] regular releases, and path to 1.0

2015-05-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/04/2015 04:15 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 5 May 2015 at 08:12, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 05/04/2015 03:53 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I'm fine with that in principle - I tend to release personal libraries pretty much as soon as something interesting hits them. I have

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Allow passing body for more API methods

2015-05-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/11/2015 02:05 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services) andrea.r...@hp.com wrote: Agreed. Violating the HTTP spec is something that should be avoided. Actually it is not violating the HTTP spec, from RFC: A payload within a DELETE

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/14/2015 08:21 PM, Chris Dent wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Sean Dague wrote: It's time to be honest about the level of support that comes with those other backends, deprecate the plugability, and move on to more interesting problems. We do have plenty of them to solve. :) Perhaps in

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/16/2015 07:41 AM, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: Hi, We have a couple of Openstack projects that uses WSME for their REST APIs[1], but WSME project looks abandoned. The review stats are not good, for the last 40 days the project didn't have a single review from a core reviewer[2], the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][pbr] splitting our deployment vs install dependencies

2015-04-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/12/2015 08:01 PM, James Polley wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 04/12/2015 06:43 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Right now we do something that upstream pip considers wrong: we make our requirements.txt be our install_requires. Upstream

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][pbr] splitting our deployment vs install dependencies

2015-04-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/12/2015 06:43 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Right now we do something that upstream pip considers wrong: we make our requirements.txt be our install_requires. Upstream there are two separate concepts. install_requirements, which are meant to document what *must* be installed to import

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-docs] What's Up Doc? Apr 10 2015

2015-04-12 Thread Monty Taylor
an official installation guide; no need to expose newbies including myself to the complexity of v2. Bernd -Original Message- From: Monty Taylor [mailto:mord...@inaugust.com] Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 6:22 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); openstack-d

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-18 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/18/2015 10:44 AM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Replying inline. -Original Message- From: Monty Taylor [mailto:mord...@inaugust.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:53 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] QPID incompatible with python 3 and untested in gate -- what to do?

2015-04-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/14/2015 01:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Hello! There's been some recent progress on python3 compatibility for core libraries that OpenStack depends on[1], and this is likely to open the flood gates for even more python3 problems to be found and fixed. Recently a proposal was made to make

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/17/2015 06:48 PM, Rochelle Grober wrote: I know the DevStack issue seems to be solved, but I had to respond.inline From: Fox, Kevin M [mailto:kevin@pnnl.gov] Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 12:28 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re:

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