[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Meeting on 4 Jan canceled

Hey folks: There's not much to discuss on the Agenda for this week [1] and most folks are still getting back from the Holidays, so let's cancel the Trove meeting for this week. We will have the Trove meeting next week on Wednesday, January 11th. Thanks, Nikhil [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Stepping down from Trove Core

Hi Victoria: Thanks for all your great work on Trove! Hope to see you around the (OpenStack) block! Cheers, Nikhil On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Peter Stachowski wrote: > Hi Victoria, > > > > Thanks for all the help and good luck in your future work! > > > > Peter > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] trove unit tests failing on stable/kilo

Thanks for putting up that fix Matt. The dependency on trunk python-troveclient (for stable/kilo) definitely seems screwy-- but I'm wondering if this was done for backwards compatibility reasons? (i.e. to ensure the latest version of python-troveclient should be able to work correctly against all

[openstack-dev] [Trove] PTL Non-Candidacy

Hello all: I'd like to announce that I will not be running for the position of Trove PTL for Mitaka. I've been PTL for 3 cycles now during which Trove has grown immensely. We have added support for twelve different datastores -- enabling support for HA Trove instances through replication,

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][qa][stable] gate-trove-functional-dsvm-mysql needs some stable branch love

Hi Matt: Yes, this is on my radar and something I'm actively looking at. Hope to have a solution here for this pretty soon. Appreciate the help with this and the review you put up to get the stable branch unblocked! Cheers, Nikhil On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Amrith Kumar amr...@tesora.com

[openstack-dev] Cross-Project meeting, Tue June 23rd, 21:00 UTC

Dear PTLs, cross-project liaisons and other interested parties: We have a cross-project meeting tomorrow (June 23rd) at 21:00 UTC, with the following agenda: - Team announcements (horizontal, vertical, diagonal) - Return request-id to caller (use thread local to store request-id) - Main use

Re: [openstack-dev] If the trove-mgmt-client is not begin by someone, i want to do this work.

Hi Li: Thanks for stepping up, and volunteering to dig into this. Your help is much appreciated! We did talk about this at the Vancouver Summit, but as far as I'm aware no one has started on this work for Liberty. As I had mentioned in one of my previous emails, python-troveclient does have the

Re: [openstack-dev] If the trove-mgmt-client is not begin by someone, i want to do this work.

prefer contribute. I think you mean, we can add mgmt-cli directly into python-troveclient? That is ok. what i should do? do i need to wirte a bp? or just write code, push it to upstream? -- Best Li Tianqing At 2015-06-12 16:52:46, Nikhil Manchanda nik...@manchanda.me wrote: Hi Li

Re: [openstack-dev] Getting rid of suds, which is unmaintained, and which we want out of Debian

Hi Thomas: I just checked and I don't see suds as a requirement for trove. I don't think it should be a requirement for the trove debian package, either. Thanks, Nikhil On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas, oslo.vmware (master) moved to

Re: [openstack-dev] Stepping Down from Trove Core

Thanks for all the hard work that you've put into Trove over the years. I understand that with Cue you are going to have much less time to focus on Trove reviews. However you are - and always will be - an integral part of the Trove community. Good luck on Cue! Cheers, -Nikhil Vipul Sabhaya

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][zaqar] Trove and Zaqar integration. Summit working session

Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][zaqar] Trove and Zaqar integration. Summit working session On 11/05/15 05:49, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 08/05/15 00:45 -0700, Nikhil Manchanda wrote: 3) The trove-guest-agent is in vm. it is connected by taskmanager by rabbitmq. We designed

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] who is the ptl of trove?

Comments inline. Monty Taylor writes: [...] Might I suggest that if this is how people regularly deploy, that such a class be included in trove proper, and that a config option be provided like use_tenant='name_of_tenant_to_use' that would trigger the use of the overridden novaclient class?

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][zaqar] Trove and Zaqar integration. Summit working session (was: [all] who is the ptl of trove?) [imm]

, 5:49 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: | | On 08/05/15 00:45 -0700, Nikhil Manchanda wrote: | 3) The trove-guest-agent is in vm. it is connected by taskmanager | by rabbitmq. We designed it. But is there some prectise to do | this? | how to make the vm

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] who is the ptl of trove?

Comments and answers inline. Li Tianqing writes: [...] 1) why we put the trove vm into user's tenant, not the trove's tenant? User can login on that vm, and that vm must connect to rabbitmq. It is quite insecure. what's about put the tenant into trove tenant? While the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] who is the ptl of trove?

Hi Li: Thanks for contacting me about Trove. I'm still the PTL for Trove for the Liberty cycle. Looking at my inbox. I see that I have an email from you from late May 5th. Because of the volume of emails I get in my inbox, please understand that it might sometimes take me 2-3 days to respond to

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Meeting on 29 April canceled

Hey folks: There's not much to discuss on the agenda for this week [1] , so I'm going to go ahead and cancel the Trove weekly meeting for this week. We will have the Trove meeting next week on Wednesday, May 6th. Thanks, Nikhil [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting

Re: [openstack-dev] Trove : about trove-guestagent connecting to trove controller and rabbitmq

Hi Benoit: The rabbitmq server that the trove components use to communicate with each other doesn't (and in fact _shouldn't_) necessarily be the same rabbitmq server that the core openstack services are using for communcation. In most real-world deployments of OpenStack Trove that I am aware of,

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Meeting on 15 April canceled

Hey folks: There's not much to discuss on the Agenda for this week [1] and most folks are getting back from OpenStack Live, so I'd like to cancel the Trove meeting for this week. We will have the Trove meeting next week on Wednesday, April 22nd. Thanks, Nikhil [1]

[openstack-dev] [Trove] PTL Candidacy

I'd like to announce my candidacy for the PTL role of the Database (Trove) program for Liberty. I have been the PTL for Trove for Juno, and Kilo. During this time frame we made some really good progress on multiple fronts. In Kilo specifically, we completed the oslo-messaging integration work

Re: [openstack-dev] Deprecation warnings considered harmful?

Looking back at the meeting eavesdrop, the primary reasons why we deferred this work to Liberty was twofold: - It wasn't a set plan based on information available to us at the time. This being the case, we decided to wait until we had more information regarding the requirements around this from

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: [...] ## Keep discussions open I don't believe there's anything wrong about kicking off some discussions in private channels about specs/bugs. I don't believe there's anything wrong in having calls to speed up some

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Core reviewer update

: Nikhil Manchanda slick...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:26 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Core

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Core reviewer update

Hello Trove folks: Keeping in line with other OpenStack projects, and attempting to keep the momentum of reviews in Trove going, we need to keep our core-team up to date -- folks who are regularly doing good reviews on the code should be brought in to core and folks whose involvement is dropping

[openstack-dev] [Trove] No weekly Trove IRC meeting this week

Hello folks: Since we are having the Trove Mid-Cycle meetup this week (Feb 3-5), there will be no weekly Trove IRC meeting on Feb 4. We'll resume our weekly IRC meeting next week, on Feb 11th. Thanks, Nikhil __ OpenStack

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Schedule for Trove Mid-Cycle Sprint

Hi folks: I've updated the schedule for the Trove Mid-Cycle Sprint at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveKiloSprint#Schedule and have linked the slots on the time-table to the etherpads that we're planning on using to track the discussion. I've also updated the page with some more

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Confused about nova_proxy_admin_* settings

Hi Mark: It's been a little while since I looked at this last, but as I recall these values seem to be used and needed only by the trove taskmanager. If you have support for metering messages turned on, this account gets used to look up instance details when sending periodic metering messages to

[openstack-dev] [Trove] No Weekly Trove Meeting on Wednesday, Dec 31st

Hey folks: Just a quick reminder that there will be no Weekly Trove Meeting on Wednesday, Dec 31st. We will resume the weekly meeting next year on January 7th. See you in the new year! Thanks, Nikhil ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] testtools 1.2.0 release breaks the world

Thanks Robert! Looks like it failed the Travis CI job due to an intermittent connectivity issue and I don't have the rights to kick-off the job again. I would appreciate it if you could kick it off again when you get a chance. Cheers, Nikhil On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] python-troveclient keystone v3 support breaking the world

Thanks Sean and Amrith - for getting the patches lined up to unblock the gate and keep things moving. I missed the action (just got off a plane). I'll follow up on IRC to get the tests up and running on python-troveclient, and on the next steps to rework the patch. Thanks, Nikhil On Wed, Nov

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 10 November canceled

Hey folks: There's nothing to discuss on the BP Agenda for this week [1] as most folks are just getting back from the summit, so I'd like to cancel the Trove blueprint meeting for this week. We will have the regular Trove meeting on Wednesday. Thanks, Nikhil [1]

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Proposal to add Iccha Sethi to trove-core

Hello folks: I'm proposing to add Iccha Sethi (iccha on IRC) to trove-core. Iccha has been working with Trove for a while now. She has been a very active reviewer, and has provided insightful comments on numerous reviews. She has submitted quality code for multiple bug-fixes in Trove, and most

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Proposal to add Iccha Sethi to trove-core

Thanks everyone for the show of support. Iccha: welcome to trove-core! On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Vipul Sabhaya vip...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Nikhil Manchanda nik...@manchanda.me wrote: Hello folks: I'm proposing to add Iccha Sethi (iccha on IRC

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo] projects still using obsolete oslo modules

Thanks for putting this together Doug! I've opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1380789 to track the changes that are needed here for Trove. Cheers, Nikhil Doug Hellmann writes: I’ve put together a little script to generate a report of the projects using modules that used to be

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 13 October canceled

Hey folks: We have an empty agenda for the Trove Blueprint meeting tomorrow, so I'm going to go ahead and cancel it. We do have a few blueprints that are in-flight which need review comments, so please take this time to review these blueprints and provide feedback:

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 6 October canceled

Hey folks: There's nothing to discuss on the BP Agenda for this week so I'd like to cancel the Trove blueprint meeting for this week. There are a few blueprints that are in-flight and need reviews / comments, so please take this time to review these blueprints and provide feedback:

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 29 September canceled

Hey folks: There's nothing to discuss on the BP Agenda for this week and most folks are busy with fixing and reviewing RC1 blocking bugs, so I'd like to cancel the Trove blueprint meeting for this week. See you guys at the regular Trove meeting on Wednesday. Thanks, Nikhil

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Anita Kuno for project-config-core

Big +1 from me. Anita has been super helpful, both with reviews and with discussions on IRC. On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:34 AM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote: I'm pleased to nominate Anito Kuno to the project-config core team. The project-config repo is a constituent of the

[openstack-dev] [Trove] PTL Candidacy

I'd like to announce my candidacy for the PTL role of the Database (Trove) program for Kilo. I'm the current PTL for Trove for Juno, and during the Juno time frame we made some really good progress on multiple fronts. We completed the Neutron integration work that we had started in Icehouse.

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 1 Sep canceled

Hello team: Most folks are going to be out on Monday September 1st, on account of it being Labor Day in the US. Consequently, I'd like to cancel the the Trove blueprint meeting this week. See you guys at the regular Trove meeting on Wednesday. Thanks, Nikhil

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Proposal to add Amrith Kumar to trove-core

Hello folks: I'm proposing to add Amrith Kumar (amrith on IRC) to trove-core. Amrith has been working with Trove for a while now. He has been a consistently active reviewer, and has provided insightful comments on numerous reviews. He has submitted quality code for multiple bug-fixes in Trove,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Proposal to add Amrith Kumar to trove-core

] [Trove] Proposal to add Amrith Kumar to trove-core Strong +1 from me! -Original Message- From: Nikhil Manchanda [mailto:nik...@manchanda.me] Sent: August-26-14 3:48 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Proposal to add

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Reminder: Midcycle Meetup this week - IRC meetings canceled

Hello folks: Just wanted to send out a quick reminder that we have the Trove Midcycle Meetup this week (Aug 20 - 22) in Cambridge, MA. Details for the event can be found at [1]. Since many of us will also be traveling on Aug 18th and 19th, and the meeting agendas are light, I'm canceling the

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 4 Aug canceled

Hey folks: There's nothing to discuss on the BP Agenda for this week and most folks are busy working on existing BPs and bugs, so I'd like to cancel the Trove blueprint meeting for this week. See you guys at the regular Trove meeting on Wednesday. Thanks, Nikhil

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Neutron integration test job

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Denis Makogon dmako...@mirantis.com wrote: [...] Add Neutron-based configuration for DevStack to let folks try it This makes sense to tackle; now that the neutron integration pieces have merged in Trove (yahoo!). However, it looks like the changes you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Guest prepare call polling mechanism issue

Tim Simpson writes: To summarize, this is a conversation about the following LaunchPad bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1325512 and Gerrit review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97194/6 You are saying the function _service_is_active in addition to polling the datastore service status also

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] how to trigger a recheck of reddwarf CI?

Anita Kuno writes: [...] Nik and I have talked. Since J2 is too far away to let a system run without recheck capability (as Joe points out, this is not in compliance with third party ci requirements), Nik is currently following up on Sukdev's wiki page (if someone can help Sukdev learn

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Discussion of capabilities feature

Joe Gordon writes: [...] This sounds very similar to the v3/v2.1 discussion happening in nova. All OpenStack projects need to address these issues and it would be a shame if each project chose a different solution, perhaps this is a good topic for the TC to help tackle? As having different

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 7 July canceled

Hey folks: There's nothing to discuss on the BP Agenda for this week and most folks are busy working on existing BPs and bugs, so I'd like to cancel the Trove blueprint meeting for this week. See you guys at the regular Trove meeting on Wednesday. Thanks, Nikhil

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] [Trove] Trove instance got stuck in BUILD state

Denis Makogon writes: On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Amrith Kumar amr...@tesora.com wrote: Denis Makogon (dmako...@mirantis.com) writes: [...] I think it is totally ludicrous (and to all the technical writers who work on OpenStack, downright offensive) to say the “docs are useless”. Not

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] how to trigger a recheck of reddwarf CI?

: On Jun 29, 2014 7:09 PM, Nikhil Manchanda nik...@manchanda.me wrote: Long term, we're looking to move away from running the integration tests in the third party reddwarf-jenkins, so this should soon go away. FWIW, in the short term, the re-trigger permissions are based on the trove-developers

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove Blueprint Meeting on 30 Jun CANCELLED

Hey folks: There's nothing to discuss on the BP Agenda for this week and most folks are busy working on existing BPs and bugs, so I'd like to cancel the Trove blueprint meeting for this week. See you guys at the regular Trove meeting on Wednesday. Thanks, Nikhil

Re: [openstack-dev] [swift] [trove] Configuration option descriptions

Hi Anne: Thanks for bringing this to our attention! This is definitely something that we need to fix. I've filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1334465 to track this issue, and I'm hoping we'll be able to get to it during juno-2 (or beginning of juno-3 at the latest). Once we've got a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Heat integration

Denis Makogon writes: Good day, Stackers, Trove community. I'd like to start thread related to orchestration based resource management. At current state Heat support in Trove is nothing else than experimental. Trove should be able to fully support Trove as resource management driver. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][NFV] NFV BoF at design summit

Isaku Yamahata writes: [...] 2) Service Catalog - to accommodate multiple VNF services. Question: the same problem exists with Trove which need a catalog for multiple concrete DB implementations. Do you know which solution they will take for Juno? Regarding to Trove, I don't know. Any

[openstack-dev] [Trove] May 26 BP meeting canceled

Hello Team: Just a quick reminder that the Trove Blueprint meeting on May 26th is canceled since most folks will be unavailable on Memorial Day. The next Blueprint meeting will be on Monday, June 2nd. The agenda can be found at the usual location at:

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] failing postgres jobs

Yes, this issue is fixed now that 94315 is merged. On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.comwrote: As I see, the 94315 merged atm, is the issue fixed? On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, If you hit an unknown error in a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] custom gerrit dashboard - per project review inbox zero

Doug Shelley writes: Very cool - thanks for providing. One question - for Trove, we have Jenkins but also voting jobs on reddwarf - any way to change the No Negative Feedback section to take into account reddwarf failures? Hi Doug: We're working on moving the reddwarf trove tests to

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Meeting Wednesday, 7 May @ 1800 UTC

Just a quick reminder for the weekly Trove meeting. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Trove_.28DBaaS.29_meeting Date/Time: Wednesday, 7 May - 1800 UTC / 1100 PDT / 1300 CDT IRC channel: #openstack-meeting-alt The Meeting Agenda can be found at

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Proposal to add Craig Vyvial to trove-core

Hello folks: I'm proposing to add Craig Vyvial (cp16net) to trove-core. Craig has been working with Trove for a while now. He has been a consistently active reviewer, and has provided insightful comments on numerous reviews. He has submitted quality code to multiple features in Trove, and most

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Proposal to add Craig Vyvial to trove-core

Thanks everyone for the show of support. Craig: welcome to trove-core! On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Vipul Sabhaya vip...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:09 AM, McReynolds, Auston amcreyno...@ebay.comwrote: +1 On 5/6/14, 2:31 AM, Nikhil Manchanda nik...@manchanda.me

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Request for transparent Gerrit approval process

Hi Mat: Some answers, and my perspective, are inline: Lowery, Mathew writes: As a non-core, I would like to understand the process by which core prioritizes Gerrit changes. I'm not aware of any standard process used by all core reviewers to prioritize reviewing changes in Gerrit. My

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Meeting Wednesday, 16 April @ 1800 UTC

Just a quick reminder for the weekly Trove meeting. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Trove_.28DBaaS.29_meeting Date/Time: Wednesday, 16 April - 1800 UTC / 1100 PDT / 1300 CDT IRC channel: #openstack-meeting-alt The Meeting Agenda can be found at

Re: [openstack-dev] Doc for Trove ?

Tim Bell writes: From my understanding, Trove is due to graduate in the Juno release. Is documentation for developers, operators and users not one of the criteria (http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/incubation-integration-requirements) ? Hi Tim: Just to

[openstack-dev] [Trove] PTL Candidacy

I'd like to announce my candidacy for the Database (Trove) PTL. I'm currently a member of the Trove Core team, and have been working on OpenStack and Trove for more than a year and a half now. I've helped Trove grow from the tiny stackforge project that it was, to the OpenStack Database project

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Meeting Wednesday, 26 March @ 1800 UTC

Just a quick reminder for the weekly Trove meeting. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Trove_.28DBaaS.29_meeting Date/Time: Wednesday 26 March - 1800 UTC / 1100 PDT / 1300 CDT IRC channel: #openstack-meeting-alt Meeting Agenda (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting): 1.

Re: [openstack-dev] [depfreeze] Dependency freeze coming up (EOD Tuesday March 25)

Sean Dague writes: The Trove team said last week they could probably land the remove in trove this week for mockito (it was on their roadmap anyway). So unless they feel that's not doable, I think we're good. -Sean Yes, this was discussed at the trove IRC meeting last week, and is

Re: [openstack-dev] Icehouse dependency freeze

Thomas Goirand writes: On 03/18/2014 06:12 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] Trove turned out to not be participating in global requirements, and has 3 items outside of requirements. Could you list them? Hi Thomas: There are 3 python packages that trove currently

Re: [openstack-dev] Icehouse dependency freeze

Thomas Goirand writes: [...] All of these are in Debian already. Mockito and WSGI-Intercept, I'm the one doing the packaging work. pexect is team maintained by the python module team. No problem at all for the above changes. [...] Thanks for the confirmation on these packages, Thomas. Much

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Trove-Gate timeouts

in rdjenkins) down to the net-ssl-simple library. (This is all based on the assumption that rdjenkins is running an older version of the plugin.) Thanks, Mat On 2/17/14, 10:13 PM, Nikhil Manchanda nik...@manchanda.me wrote: Hi Mathew: Nice work identifying these issues with the current Jenkins

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Design Summit Etherpads

The list of Etherpads for the design summit sessions for Trove is now posted at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Trove Feel free to add any relevant notes to the Etherpads. Thanks, Cheers, -Nikhil ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

It seems strange to me to treat both the datastore_type and version as two separate entities, when they aren't really independent of each other. (You can't really deploy a mysql type with a cassandra version, and vice-versa, so why have separate datastore-list and version-list calls?) I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

The image approach works fine if Trove only supports deploying a single datastore type (mysql in your case). As soon as we support deploying more than 1 datastore type, Trove needs to have some knowledge of which guestagent manager classes to load. Hence the need for having a datastore type API.

Re: [openstack-dev] Thanks for fixing my patch

Just wanted to chime in that Trove also follows this approach and it's worked pretty well for us. +1 on Doug's suggestion to leave a comment on the patch so that two reviewers don't end up doing the same work fixing it. Cheers, -Nikhil On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Dolph Mathews