Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] noVNC disabled by default?

2015-02-03 Thread Marty Falatic (mfalatic)
I¹ve opened a bug to track this effort for DevStack (and to help point
others in the right direction when they stumble upon this):
https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1417735

 - Marty


On 1/12/15, 10:02 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote:

On 01/09/2015 05:24 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
 On 01/09/2015 06:12 PM, Solly Ross wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just noticed that noVNC was disabled by default in devstack (the
relevant 
 change was 
 
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140860/).
 

 
 Now, if I understand correctly (based on the short commit message),
the 
 rationale is that we don't want devstack to reply on non-OpenStack Git
 
 repos, so that devstack doesn't fail when some external Git hosting
 
 service (e.g. GitHub) goes down.
 
 Realistically the policy is more about the fact that we should be using
 released (and commonly available) versions of dependent software.
 Ideally from packages, but definitely not from git trees. We don't want
 to be testing everyone else's bleeding edge, there are lots of edges and
 pointy parts in OpenStack as it is.
 

 
 This is all fine and dandy (and a decent idea, IMO), but this leaves
devstack   
 installing a broken installation of Horizon by default -- Horizon
still  
 attempts to show the noVNC console when you go to the console tab
for an  
 instance, which is a bit confusing, initially.  Now, it wasn't
particularly
 hard to track not particularly hard to track down *why* this happened
(hmm...   
 my stackrc seems to be missing n-novnc in ENABLED_SERVICES.
Go-go-gadget
 `git blame`), but it strikes me as a bit inconsistent and
inconvenient.   

 
 Personally, I would like to see noVNC back as a default service, since
it   
 can be useful when trying to see what your VM is actually doing during
 
 boot, or if you're having network issues.  Is there anything I can do
 
 as a noVNC maintainer to help?
 

 
 We (the noVNC team) do publish releases, and I've been trying to make
 
 sure that they happen in a more timely fashion.  In the past, it was
necessary  
 to use Git master to ensure that you got the latest version (there was
a
 2-year gap between 0.4 and 0.5!), but I'm trying to change that.
Currently,
 it would appear that most of the distros are still using the old
version (0.4), 
 but versions 0.5 and 0.5.1 are up on GitHub as release tarballs (0.5
being a 3  
 months old and 0.5.1 having been tagged a couple weeks ago).  I will
attempt to 
 work with distro maintainers to get the packages updated.  However, in
the mean 
 time, is there a place would be acceptable to place the releases so
that devstack
 can install them?
 
 If you rewrite the noNVC installation in devstack to work from a release
 URL that includes the released version on it, I think that would be
 sufficient to turn it back on. Again, ideally this should be in distros,

FWIW, I looked into installing novnc from distro packages quite a while
ago and ran into problems because the dependencies were wonky.  Like,
novnc would pull in Nova which then overwrote a bunch of the devstack
Nova stuff.  I don't know if that's still an issue, but that's the main
reason I never pushed ahead with removing the git install of novnc (that
was during the release drought, so those weren't an option at the time
either).

 but I think we could work on doing release installs until then,
 especially if the install process is crisp.
 
 I am looking at the upstream release tarball right now though, and don't
 see and INSTALL instructions in it. So lets see what the devstack patch
 would look like to do the install.
 
  -Sean
 


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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Key signing at the summit?

2014-10-27 Thread Marty Falatic (mfalatic)
I'm relatively new to the keysigning *event* concept - can someone give a 
little more detail on this and where it comes into play? Does anyone else use a 
service (e.g., keybase.io) for this purpose?

 - Marty Falatic




-Original Message-
From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:01 PM
To: openstack-dev
Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] Key signing at the summit?

Hi everyone! We have a summit rapidly approaching, and to my knowledge, no key 
signing event planned. That is unfortunate, as the web of trust that we started 
building in Atlanta would be quite stronger as we add more European developers 
who I'm sure will be present in large numbers due to proximity.

I believe we may be too late to do a mass keysigning, though if others feel we 
have time to gather fingerprints and disseminate a list for printing, then I 
will try to devote some time to it in the next 24 hours. However, I want to 
encourage everyone to print out your signature en-masse (hint hint: print it on 
your business cards) so that you can do an impromptu verification of identity 
with somebody. It may also be valuable to arrange a time where everyone can be 
present with their government issued IDs even if there isn't a mass list.

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