[openstack-dev] [Designate] In what sense is it multi-tenant?

2017-02-10 Thread Mike Spreitzer
In what sense is Designate multi-tenant? Can it be programmed to give different views to different DNS clients? (If so, how?) Thanks, Mike __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe:

Re: [openstack-dev] [designate] Status of the project

2017-02-10 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Joshua Harlow wrote on 02/10/2017 12:21:08 PM: > Knowing where this is at and the issues. It makes me wonder if it is > worthwhile to start thinking about how we can start to look at 'outside > the openstack' projects for DNS. I believe there is a few that are > similar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kuryr] [Neutron] Controlling security groups through Kuryr's libnetwork plugin [was: Waiting until Neutron PortisActive]

2016-06-12 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Antoni Segura Puimedon wrote on 06/11/2016 07:39:41 PM: > Well, with a label you can make the Neutron Port have an SG that > forbids pinging. Wait, what? Labels on what can do what? Thanks, Mike

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kuryr] [Neutron] Waiting until Neutron PortisActive

2016-06-11 Thread Mike Spreitzer
What about pinging? BTW, from where would the pings come? In the Docker/Swarm API today there is no way to disable ping. However, once Kuryr's libnetwork plugin is updated so that `docker network connect --ip=W.X.Y.Z ...` will latch onto a matching pre-existing Neutron Port, if it exists,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [designate] multi-tenancy in Neutron's DNS integration

2016-05-09 Thread Mike Spreitzer
"Hayes, Graham" <graham.ha...@hpe.com> wrote on 05/09/2016 04:08:07 PM: > ... > On 09/05/2016 20:55, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > ... > > Oh, right, the network gets to specify the rest of the FQDN. In my case > > I am interested in Neutron Ports on

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [designate] multi-tenancy in Neutron's DNS integration

2016-05-09 Thread Mike Spreitzer
05/09/2016 03:05 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [designate] multi-tenancy in > Neutron's DNS integration > > On 09/05/2016 19:21, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > I just read > > http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-dns.htmland > , unless &

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [designate] multi-tenancy in Neutron's DNS integration

2016-05-09 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I just read http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-dns.html and, unless I missed something, it seems to be describing something that is not multi-tenant. I am focused on FQDNs for Neutron Ports. For those, only the "hostname" part (the first label, in official DNS

[openstack-dev] [kuryr] Question for Antoni Puimedon about load balancers and overlay networks

2016-05-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I am looking at https://www.openstack.org/videos/video/project-kuryr-docker-delivered-kubernetes-next , around 28:00. You have said that overlay networks are involved, and are now talking about load balancers. Is this Neutron LBaaS? As far as I know, a Neutron LBaaS instance is "one-armed"

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack][neutron] Eliminating the DevStack layer

2016-04-08 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I like this, for a reason not mentioned. I am not a Neutron dev or operator and have never learned how to deploy Neutron; I have always driven it through DevStack. The documentation for that has never been adequate, and I have concluded it will never be adequate. With inadequate

[openstack-dev] [kuryr] Did kuryr need to know about Docker's cluster store?

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Spreitzer
On Feb 5 I was given a tarchive of kuryr with an install script that configures the docker daemon to use consul as its cluster store. If I modify the config of docker to use etcd instead then do I need to change anything in Kuryr? Thanks, Mike

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] - Changing the Neutron default security group rules

2016-03-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Kevin Benton wrote on 03/02/2016 01:27:27 PM: > Does it at least also include the UUID, or is there no way to tell > from 'nova show'? No direct way to tell, as far as I can see. __ OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] - Changing the Neutron default security group rules

2016-03-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
"Sean M. Collins" wrote on 03/02/2016 01:16:52 PM: > Meaning your users are creating new security groups and naming them > "default" - so you have the "default" default (heh) and then the one > that they created named default? > > Are security group names in Nova-Net unqiue?

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] - Changing the Neutron default security group rules

2016-03-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
"Sean M. Collins" wrote on 03/02/2016 12:38:29 PM: > I think that the default security group should be left as is - and users > should be trained that they should bring/create security groups with the > appropriate rules for their need. Could we at least make it less

[openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] How to ask for linuxbridge instead of openvswitch

2016-02-29 Thread Mike Spreitzer
How would I modify the recipe at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html#using-neutron-with-a-single-interface to get linuxbridge instead of openvswitch? Thanks, Mike __ OpenStack Development

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] MTU configuration pain

2016-01-25 Thread Mike Spreitzer
BTW, regarding devstack: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1532924. I have been trying to get the current code to work, following the ideas in https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/fuel-specs/specs/7.0/jumbo-frames-between-instances.html#proposed-change . It fails only at the last

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] MTU configuration pain

2016-01-23 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Adam Lawson wrote on 01/23/2016 02:27:46 PM: > For the sake of over-simplification, is there ever a reason to NOT > enable jumbo frames in a cloud/SDN context where most of the traffic > is between virtual elements that all support it? I understand that > some switches do

[openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] Progress, and current problems

2016-01-05 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I have been trying to get http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html#using-neutron-with-a-single-interface working on Ubuntu 14.04 (updated to the latest, which includes kernel 3.19). With the latest sources and a sufficiently recent OVS, the one-node install pretty

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] Procedure for back-porting a bug fix to stable/liberty branch of a Neutron script in DevStack?

2016-01-04 Thread Mike Spreitzer
rting a bug fix to stable/liberty branch of a Neutron script > in DevStack? > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Mike Spreitzer <mspre...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > I would like to back-port https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242721/ > --- which fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/devst

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] Procedure for back-porting a bug fix to stable/liberty branch of a Neutron script in DevStack?

2016-01-03 Thread Mike Spreitzer
rting a bug fix to stable/liberty branch of a Neutron script > in DevStack? > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Mike Spreitzer <mspre...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > I would like to back-port https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242721/ > --- which fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/devst

[openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] Procedure for back-porting a bug fix to stable/liberty branch of a Neutron script in DevStack?

2016-01-03 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I would like to back-port https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242721/ --- which fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1469596 --- to stable/liberty. I have contributed to main line development before, but not stable branches. I see that

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Multiple locations for documentation of features

2015-12-08 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: Henry Gessau > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Date: 12/04/2015 02:23 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Multiple locations for > documentation of features > > Sean M. Collins

[openstack-dev] The OVS and Provider Networks section of the guide to Neutron in DevStack

2015-10-20 Thread Mike Spreitzer
First let me make sure I understand what this section ( http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html#neutron-networking-with-open-vswitch-and-provider-networks ) is trying to say. The second paragraph is saying that some infrastructure provider has allocated a VLAN tag (and

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron

2015-10-17 Thread Mike Spreitzer
10/16/2015 01:12 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of > questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:02:57AM EDT, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > Now I have tested the first section (taking the latest of both c

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron

2015-10-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List \(not for usage questions\)" > <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Date: 10/13/2015 03:39 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of > questions

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] A few questions on configuring DevStack for Neutron

2015-10-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Matt Riedemann wrote on 10/08/2015 09:48:33 PM: > On 10/8/2015 11:38 AM, Sean M. Collins wrote: > > Please see my response here: > > > > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076251.html > > > > In the future, do not create multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron

2015-10-13 Thread Mike Spreitzer
atch of > questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron > > On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 01:47:31PM EDT, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > .. > > > > In the section > > > > http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/ > > > neutron.html#using-neutron-

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron

2015-10-12 Thread Mike Spreitzer
figuring DevStack to use Neutron On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 01:47:31PM EDT, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > .. > > > In the section > > > http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/ > > neutron.html#using-neutron-with-a-single-interface > > > there is a hel

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Recording little everyday OpenStack successes

2015-10-09 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Thierry Carrez wrote on 10/09/2015 05:42:49 AM: ... > So whenever you feel like you made progress, or had a little success in > your OpenStack adventures, or have some joyful moment to share, just > throw the following message on your local IRC channel: > > #success [Your

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron

2015-10-08 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: "Sean M. Collins" <s...@coreitpro.com> ... > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 11:25:03AM EDT, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > [Sorry, but I do not know if the thundering silence is because these > > questions are too hard, too easy, grossly off-topic, or simply

[openstack-dev] [devstack] [neutron] A larger batch of questions about configuring DevStack to use Neutron

2015-10-06 Thread Mike Spreitzer
[Sorry, but I do not know if the thundering silence is because these questions are too hard, too easy, grossly off-topic, or simply because nobody cares.] I have been looking at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.htmland wonder about a few things. In the section

[openstack-dev] [devstack] A few questions on configuring DevStack for Neutron

2015-10-04 Thread Mike Spreitzer
[Apologies for re-posting, but I botched the subject line the first time and know that people use filters.] I have been looking at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html and wonder about a few things. In the section

[openstack-dev] A few questions on configuring DevStack for Neutron

2015-10-03 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I have been looking at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html and wonder about a few things. In the section http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html#using-neutron-with-a-single-interface there is a helpful display of localrc contents. It

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] -1 due to line length violation in commit messages

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: Gorka Eguileor > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Date: 09/29/2015 07:34 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] -1 due to line length violation > in commit messages ... > Since we are not all

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum]swarm + compose = k8s?

2015-09-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: 王华 > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Date: 09/28/2015 11:34 PM > Subject: [openstack-dev] [magnum]swarm + compose = k8s? > > Hi folks, > > Magnum now exposes service, pod, etc to users

Re: [openstack-dev] Compute API (Was Re: [nova][cinder] how to handle AZ bug 1496235?)

2015-09-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: Monty Taylor > To: Sylvain Bauza , "OpenStack Development > Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > Date: 09/28/2015 09:54 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Compute API (Was Re: [nova][cinder] how > to handle

[openstack-dev] [devstack] Is there a way to configure devstack for one flat external network using Kilo, Neutron?

2015-09-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Is there a way to configure devstack to install Neutron such that there is just one network and that is an external network and Nova can create Compute Instances on it, using projects of Kilo vintage? Thanks, Mike __

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Monty Taylor wrote on 09/15/2015 11:04:07 AM: > a) an update to python-novaclient to allow a named network to be passed > to satisfy the "you have more than one network" - the nics argument is > still useful for more complex things I am not using the latest, but rather

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
"Armando M." wrote on 09/15/2015 03:50:24 PM: > On 15 September 2015 at 10:02, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Armando M.'s message of 2015-09-15 09:30:35 -0700: ... > As with the Glance image upload API discussion, this is an example > of an

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clark Boylan wrote on 09/15/2015 04:06:26 PM: > > I also strongly recommend to users to put vms on a private network and > > use floating ip's/load balancers. For many reasons. Such as, if you > > don't, the ip that gets assigned to the vm helps it become a pet. you > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [fwaas] -IPv6 support in Kilo

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
From: Rukhsana Ansari rukhsana.ans...@oneconvergence.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 06/02/2015 01:59 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [fwaas] -IPv6 support in Kilo Hi, I was browsing the code to understand IPv6 support For FWaaS in Kilo. I don't see a

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] IPv4 transition/interoperation with IPv6

2015-05-06 Thread Mike Spreitzer
, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote: Does Neutron support any of the 4/6 interoperation/transition techniques? I wear an operator's hat nowadays, and want to make IPv6 as useful and easy to use as possible for my tenants. I think the interoperation/transition techniques will play a big

[openstack-dev] [neutron] IPv4 transition/interoperation with IPv6

2015-05-04 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Does Neutron support any of the 4/6 interoperation/transition techniques? I wear an operator's hat nowadays, and want to make IPv6 as useful and easy to use as possible for my tenants. I think the interoperation/transition techniques will play a big role in this. Thanks,

[openstack-dev] [neutron] multiple external networks on the same host NIC

2015-04-25 Thread Mike Spreitzer
As an operator, is there a way I can create two external networks from Neutron's point of view, where both of those networks are accessed through the same host NIC? Obviously those networks would be using different subnets. I need this sort of thing because the two subnets are treated

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron scaling datapoints?

2015-04-08 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Are you looking at scaling the numbers of tenants, Neutron routers, and tenant networks as you scale hosts and guests? I think this is a plausible way to grow. The compartmentalizations that comes with growing those things may make a difference in results. Thanks, Mike From: Neil Jerram

Re: [openstack-dev] Heat: autoscaling across availability zones

2015-02-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
From: Weidong Shao weidongs...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 02/28/2015 02:12 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] Heat: autoscaling across availability zones From the heat template reference doc, it seems that

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] AutoScalingGroup with LB Member

2014-11-03 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Cameron Seader csea...@suse.com wrote on 11/03/2014 06:22:32 PM: Please if you can help me out.. Here is my heat stack http://paste.opensuse.org/80575159 for some reason its failing on the member address.. not sure the syntax is right. Compare with

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][ceilometer]: scale up/ down based on number of instances in a group

2014-10-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Daniel Comnea comnea.d...@gmail.com wrote on 10/27/2014 07:16:32 AM: Yes i did but if you look at this example https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml the flow is simple: CPU alarm in Ceilometer triggers the type: OS::Heat::ScalingPolicy which

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Proposal - add support for Markdown for docs

2014-10-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote on 10/27/2014 09:13:27 AM: From: Sean Dague s...@dague.net On 10/22/2014 11:10 AM, Collins, Sean wrote: With some xargs, sed, and pandoc - I now present to you the first attempt at converting the DevStack docs to RST, and making the doc build look

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote on 10/24/2014 12:32:04 AM: I have felt some grumblings about usability issues with Heat templates/client/etc.. and wanted a way that users could come and give us feedback easily (low barrier). I started an etherpad (https://

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] add cyclomatic complexity check to pep8 target

2014-10-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I like the idea of measuring complexity. I looked briefly at `python -m mccabe`. It seems to measure each method independently. Is this really fair? If I have a class with some big methods, and I break it down into more numerous and smaller methods, then the largest method gets smaller,

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer] [heat] grace period for an alarm?

2014-10-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Can a Ceilometer client create an alarm with a grace period? That is, an initial period of time during which alarms are suppressed. For a related concept, see the grace period in an AWS autoscaling group. Note that in an OpenStack heat template, the author can not write an arithmetic

[openstack-dev] [devstack] Bug 1339982 (DevStack giving br-ex the IP address of PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY)

2014-10-08 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I think I am suffering from https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1339982 and am surprised by the lack of attention it has gotten --- it seems like a pretty basic thing. Am I missing something here? As revealed at the turning point of a discussion on the openstack mailing list (

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev][nova] git fetch fails with permission denied (publickey)

2014-10-06 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Jennifer Mulsow/Austin/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 10/06/2014 06:45:21 PM: I have followed the instructions on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ Gerrit_Workflow and am trying to fetch the nova repository, but it fails with Permission denied (publickey). I believe this has something to do with my

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] a need to assert user ownership in preserved state

2014-10-01 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 10/01/2014 09:50:33 PM: Recently we've been testing image based updates using TripleO, and we've run into an interesting conundrum. Currently, our image build scripts create a user per service for the image. We don't, at this time, assert a UID, so it

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote on 09/24/2014 11:02:49 PM: On 09/24/2014 03:31 PM, Alan Kavanagh wrote: Steven I have to ask what is the motivation and benefits we get from integrating Kubernetes into Openstack? Would be really useful if you can elaborate and outline some use cases and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 09/25/2014 12:13:53 AM: Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-09-24 20:49:20 -0700: Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote on 09/24/2014 11:02:49 PM: ... ... Does TripleO require container functionality that is not available when using the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-23 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but you can not install Cinder inside a container. Cinder requires an iSCSI package that fails to install; its install script tries to launch the daemon, and that fails. Regards, Mike___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider template for docs

2014-09-19 Thread Mike Spreitzer
On further thought, I noticed that template-based resource also describes an AWS::CloudFormation::Stack; and since those are template-based, you could well describe them as custom too. Would you consider nested stack to also describe resources of other types that are implemented by Python code

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider template for docs

2014-09-18 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote on 09/18/2014 09:33:56 PM: Hi I am trying to add some docs to openstack-manuals hot_guide about using provider templates : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121741/ Mike has suggested we use a different term, he thinks provider is confusing. I

[openstack-dev] [heat] Confused about the future of health maintenance and OS::Heat::HARestarter

2014-09-17 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Background: Health maintenance is very important to users, and I have users who want to do it now and into the future. Today a Heat user can write a template that maintains the health of a resource R. The detection of a health problem can be done by anything that hits a webhook. That

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote on 09/11/2014 04:21:18 AM: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: I'm trying to find a way to create a set of servers and attach a new volume to each server. ... Basically creating lots of resource groups for

[openstack-dev] [heat] Re: Change in openstack/heat[master]: Implement AZ spanning for ASGs

2014-08-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
You offered to share ideas about a different way to approach spanning AZs for OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup. I am interested. Can we discuss it here? Thanks, Mike___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
committed? BTW, I am doing the following admittedly risky thing: I run DevStack, and make my changes in /opt/stack/heat/. Thanks, Mike - Forwarded by Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM on 08/24/2014 03:03 AM - From: ubuntu@mjs-dstk-821a (Ubuntu) To: Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, Date: 08/24

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
DevStack, and make my changes in /opt/stack/heat/. Thanks, Mike - Forwarded by Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM on 08/24/2014 03:03 AM - From: ubuntu@mjs-dstk-821a (Ubuntu) To: Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, Date: 08/24/2014 02:55 AM Subject:fresh

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote on 08/24/2014 12:01:37 PM: ... Keystone saw an oddity with the new sample config generator (changing how options are sorted and therefore changing the way the sample config is rendered). This could be a similar / related issue. Most of

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
] heat.conf.sample is not up to date On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote: What I really need to know is what to do when committing a change that really does require a change in the sample configuration file. Of course I tried running generate_sample.sh

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker] Run OpenStack Service in Docker Container

2014-08-19 Thread Mike Spreitzer
In particular, I tried to run DevStack inside an LXC a few months ago. I discovered that DevStack (presumably for the sake of cinder-volume) pre-reqs a system package named tgt, and tgt does not succeed to install inside an LXC (the install script launches the daemon, but the daemon launch

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker] Run OpenStack Service in Docker Container

2014-08-19 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Jay Lau jay.lau@gmail.com wrote on 08/14/2014 08:54:56 AM: I see a few mentions of OpenStack services themselves being containerized in Docker. Is this a serious trend in the community? http://allthingsopen.com/2014/02/12/why-containers-for-openstack-services/ It looks to me like the

[openstack-dev] Separating the issues around smarter/solver/joint/holistic placement

2014-08-19 Thread Mike Spreitzer
There has been a lot of discussion around these issues, let me see if I can break it down into pieces, hopefully in a way that allows some progress on one of them first. I continue to focus on the timeless version of the problem, in which the placement question is simply where can we put some

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Separating the issues around smarter/solver/joint/holistic placement

2014-08-19 Thread Mike Spreitzer
This is primarily an issue for Nova. Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 08/20/2014 01:21:24 AM: From: Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 08/20/2014 01:24 AM Subject: [openstack-dev] Separating the issues

Re: [openstack-dev] OS or os are not acronyms for OpenStack

2014-08-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote on 08/15/2014 10:38:20 AM: OpenStack is OpenStack. The use of openstack is also acceptable in our development conversations. OS or os is operating system. I am starting to see some people us OS or os to mean OpenStack. This is confusing and also

Re: [openstack-dev] OS or os are not acronyms for OpenStack

2014-08-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote on 08/15/2014 01:08:44 PM: ... I think you hit the nail on the head here, Russell, it's fine in the right context. The definition of the right context however is somewhat elusive. I have chosen (it is my own fault) to place myself in the area where the

Re: [openstack-dev] OS or os are not acronyms for OpenStack

2014-08-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote on 08/15/2014 01:49:40 PM: ... but surely when it comes to learning OpenStack itself, the OpenStack community, dev processes, tools, etc this has got to be extremely far down the list of barriers to entry. No argument there. I am spending decimal

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][DevStack] How to increase developer usage of Neutron

2014-08-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I'll bet I am not the only developer who is not highly competent with bridges and tunnels, Open VSwitch, Neutron configuration, and how DevStack transmutes all those. My bet is that you would have more developers using Neutron if there were an easy-to-find and easy-to-follow recipe to use, to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][DevStack] How to increase developer usage of Neutron

2014-08-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
CARVER, PAUL pc2...@att.com wrote on 08/14/2014 09:35:17 AM: Mike Spreitzer [mailto:mspre...@us.ibm.com] wrote: I'll bet I am not the only developer who is not highly competent with bridges and tunnels, Open VSwitch, Neutron configuration, and how DevStack transmutes all those. My bet

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network - Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote on 08/05/2014 12:27:14 PM: On 08/05/2014 09:18 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Hello stackers, TC, Neutron contributors, At the Nova mid-cycle meetup last week in Oregon, during the discussion about the future of nova-network, the topic of nova-network -

Re: [openstack-dev] Networking Docs Swarm - Brisbane 9 August

2014-08-04 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Lana Brindley openst...@lanabrindley.com wrote on 08/04/2014 11:05:24 PM: I just wanted to let you all know about the OpenStack Networking Docs Swarm being held in Brisbane on 9 August. ... +++ on this. I can not contribute answers, but have lots of questions. Let me suggest that

[openstack-dev] [neutron] API confusion

2014-08-01 Thread Mike Spreitzer
http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html and http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_listMembers__v2.0_pools__pool_id__members_lbaas_ext_ops_member.html say that to list LB pool members, the URL to GET is /v2.0/pools/{pool_id}/members When I use the

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer][nova] extra Ceilometer Samples of the instance gauge

2014-07-30 Thread Mike Spreitzer
In a normal DevStack install, each Compute instance causes one Ceilometer Sample every 10 minutes. Except, there is an extra one every hour. And a lot of extra ones at the start. What's going on here? For example: $ ceilometer sample-list -m instance -q

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] objects notifications

2014-07-29 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote on 07/29/2014 12:43:08 PM: Hi, When reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107954/ it occurred to me that maybe we should consider having some kind of generic object wrapper that could do notifications for objects. Any thoughts on this? I am not

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote on 07/23/2014 11:24:32 PM: Hi Mike, and listed the possible values of the status field, including INACTIVE. Other sources are telling me that status=INACTIVE when the health monitor thinks the member is unhealthy, status!=INACTIVE when the

[openstack-dev] [heat] Convergence question - notifications?

2014-07-24 Thread Mike Spreitzer
The Convergence spec speaks of adding notification ( http://docs-draft.openstack.org/94/96394/3/gate/gate-heat-specs-docs/e3e9e06/doc/build/html/specs/convergence.html#proposed-change ). What sort of notifications are these? Are they something to which the implementation of a scaling group

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-23 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote on 07/16/2014 04:58:52 PM: You do recall correctly, and there are currently no mechanisms for notifying anything outside of the load balancer backend when the health monitor/member state changes. But there *is* a mechanism for some outside thing to

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-23 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote on 07/23/2014 03:43:02 PM: From: Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com ... The state of the world today: ‘status’ in the neutron database is configuration/provisioning status, not operational status. Neutron- wide thing. We were discussing adding

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-23 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Stephen Balukoff sbaluk...@bluebox.net wrote on 07/23/2014 09:14:35 PM: It's probably worth pointing out that most of the Neutron LBaaS team are spending most of our time doing a major revision to Neutron LBaaS. How stats processing should happen has definitely been discussed but not

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-18 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Thomas Herve thomas.he...@enovance.com wrote on 07/17/2014 02:06:13 AM: There are 4 resources related to neutron load balancing. OS::Neutron::LoadBalancer is probably the least useful and the one you can *not* use, as it's only there for compatibility with

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-18 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 07/18/2014 12:56:32 PM: Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-07-18 09:12:21 -0700: ... OK, let's work with these. My current view is this: supposing the Convergence work delivers monitoring of health according to a member's status in

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 07/02/2014 01:54:49 PM: Excerpts from Qiming Teng's message of 2014-07-02 00:02:14 -0700: Just some random thoughts below ... On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:47:03PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: In AWS, an autoscaling group includes health maintenance

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote on 07/16/2014 04:58:52 PM: On 7/16/14, 2:43 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-07-16 10:50:42 -0700: ... I noticed that health checking in AWS goes beyond convergence. In AWS an ELB can be

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] autoscaling across regions and availability zones

2014-07-11 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 07/10/2014 05:57:14 PM: On 09/07/14 22:38, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 07/01/2014 06:54:58 PM: On 01/07/14 16:23, Mike Spreitzer wrote: ... Hmm, now that I think about it, CloudFormation provides a Fn::GetAZs

Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: [heat] autoscaling across regions and availability zones

2014-07-09 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Huangtianhua huangtian...@huawei.com wrote on 07/04/2014 02:35:56 AM: I have register a bp about this : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ heat/+spec/implement-autoscalinggroup-availabilityzones ・ ・ And I am thinking how to implement this recently. ・ ・ According to AWS

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] autoscaling across regions and availability zones

2014-07-09 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 07/01/2014 06:54:58 PM: On 01/07/14 16:23, Mike Spreitzer wrote: An AWS autoscaling group can span multiple availability zones in one region. What is the thinking about how to get analogous functionality in OpenStack? ... Currently, a stack does

Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: 答复: [heat] autoscaling across regions and availability zones

2014-07-09 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Huangtianhua huangtian...@huawei.com wrote on 07/09/2014 10:20:42 PM: 发件人: Mike Spreitzer [mailto:mspre...@us.ibm.com] 发送时间: 2014年7月10日 3:19 收件人: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) 主题: Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: [heat] autoscaling across regions and availability

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] One more lifecycle plug point - in scaling groups

2014-07-03 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote on 07/02/2014 06:16:21 AM: On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 02:41:19AM +, Adrian Otto wrote: Zane, If you happen to have a link to this blueprint, could you replywith it? ... I believe Zane was referring to:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 07/01/2014 06:58:47 PM: On 01/07/14 15:47, Mike Spreitzer wrote: In AWS, an autoscaling group includes health maintenance functionality --- both an ability to detect basic forms of failures and an ability to react properly to failures detected

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 07/02/2014 02:41:48 AM: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 07/01/2014 06:58:47 PM: On 01/07/14 15:47, Mike Spreitzer wrote: In AWS, an autoscaling group includes health maintenance functionality --- both an ability to detect basic forms

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote on 07/02/2014 03:02:14 AM: Just some random thoughts below ... On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:47:03PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: ... I have not found design discussion of this; have I missed something? I suppose the natural answer

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-02 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote on 07/02/2014 06:02:36 AM: On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 03:02:14PM +0800, Qiming Teng wrote: Just some random thoughts below ... On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:47:03PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: ... The resource signal interface used by ceilometer can

[openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-01 Thread Mike Spreitzer
In AWS, an autoscaling group includes health maintenance functionality --- both an ability to detect basic forms of failures and an ability to react properly to failures detected by itself or by a load balancer. What is the thinking about how to get this functionality in OpenStack? Since

[openstack-dev] [heat] autoscaling across regions and availability zones

2014-07-01 Thread Mike Spreitzer
An AWS autoscaling group can span multiple availability zones in one region. What is the thinking about how to get analogous functionality in OpenStack? Warmup question: what is the thinking about how to get the levels of isolation seen between AWS regions when using OpenStack? What is the

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