Re: [openstack-dev] [Diesel] Proposal for new project

2014-01-21 Thread Raymond, Rob
Hi Adrian, Jay and Raj

Thanks for your responses on relationship between Solum and Diesel. It does
sound like they are in the same domain. My feeling was that it was a very
different approach where Solum was aimed at developer, Diesel was aimed at
the cloud provider. In some companies these roles are not very different but
in others they are completely different and may even work for different
companies.

I plan to start engaging in Solum project and see how this use model can be
addressed or perhaps already is.

Thanks,
Rob

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From: Jay Pipes [jaypipes at gmail.com]
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Perhaps I'm just missing something, though, so perhaps you might
elaboraste?

Best,
-jay


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[openstack-dev] [Diesel] Proposal for new project

2014-01-17 Thread Raymond, Rob
I would like to gauge interest in a new project named Diesel.

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diesel

If you are already familiar with Savanna, the best way to describe it is:
Savanna is to map reduce applications as Diesel is to web applications.

The mission of Diesel is to allow OpenStack clouds to run applications.
The cloud administrator can control the non functional aspects, freeing up
the application developer to focus on their application and its
functionality.

In the spirit of Google App Engine, Heroku, Engine Yard and others, Diesel
runs web applications in the cloud. It can be used by cloud administrators
to define the application types that they support. They are also
responsible for defining through Diesel how these applications run on top
of their cloud infrastructure. Diesel will control the availability and
scalability of the web application deployment.

Please send me email if you would like to collaborate on this and I can
set up an IRC meeting.

Rob Raymond


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Diesel] Proposal for new project

2014-01-17 Thread Raymond, Rob

Hi Raj

As I see it, Solum is a set of utilities aimed at developers to use
OpenStack clouds but will not be part of OpenStack proper.
While Diesel is meant to be a service that is provided by an OpenStack
cloud (and at some point becoming part of OpenStack itself). It defines a
contract and division of responsibility between developer and cloud.

Rob

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From: Rajesh Ramchandani
Date:01/17/2014 8:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
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Hi Rob - there seems be overlap with project Solum. Can you please outline
high level differences between Diesel and Solum?


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