Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Moving the QA meeting time

2013-12-05 Thread Rochelle.Grober
Hey, guys. We've got a team in China that is focused mainly on Test and at least one or two would like to attend the meetings. 22:00 UTC is a bit early for them so I think it would be better to alternate to get reasonable participation. The team wants to get more involved in the test effort

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-21 Thread Rochelle.Grober
I think Jesse illustrates *why* we need a program for UX. SW Developers don't think the same way as UX developers. UX is working on stuff most of us have never considered across all sorts of project lines. A warm, understanding home to brainstorm issues before returning to the project

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack][qa][Tempest][Network] Test for external connectivity

2013-11-20 Thread Rochelle.Grober
For External connectivity beyond the network gateway, rather than pinging, configuring the vm for an external DNS server and pinging it by IPaddress would be a good initial test of external connectivity. --Rocky From: Tomoe Sugihara [] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Rochelle.Grober
+1 I'd also love to see a tag or keyword associated with items that (affects {project x,y,z}) or (possibly affects {project x,y,z} to highlight areas in need of collaboration between teams. There is so much going on cross-project these days, that if the project team thinks the change has side

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-20 Thread Rochelle.Grober
Anne Gentle wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Rochelle.Grober
Coming from QA/Ops, I agree that there are horizontal teams that need to get info from the mailing list(s) across the spectrum. I also agree with Clint's and Adrian's statements about the synergies and serendipities of all the developers on one list. But I also understand the feeling of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Rochelle.Grober
Perhaps all this sound and fury will get a some entity to step up and provide Neutron project t-shirts for the sprint;-) Then maybe the participants will *want* to wear the Neutron Team shirt. And as for errors, Anita, I fully understand, sympathize and have experience in that area. --Rocky

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread Rochelle.Grober
I agree that parametric testing, with input generators is the way to go for the API testing. Both positive and negative. I've looked at a number of frameworks in the past and the one that until recently was the highest on my list is Robot: I had

Re: [openstack-dev] L3 advanced features blueprint mapping to IETF and IEEE standards

2013-11-07 Thread Rochelle.Grober
From: Pedro Roque Marques [] Colin, The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. For instance, if you take this Internet Draft: which is based on RFC4364. It has

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: [Openstack-Dev][Compass] Announcement of the Compass Deployment project

2013-11-01 Thread Rochelle.Grober
The demo session is: Wednesday, November 6 * 1:20pm - 1:35pm in the Demo Theatre The presentation is: Thursday, November 7 * 4:30pm - 5:10pm in Sky City Meeting Rm 4 (Marriot) We are also trying for an unconference session to do some brainstorming with interested developers. And, our

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: [Openstack-Dev] [Compass] Announcement of the Compass Deployment project

2013-11-01 Thread Rochelle.Grober
From: Dmitry Mescheryakov [] I've noticed you list Remote install and configure a Hadoop cluster (synergy with Savanna?) among possible use cases. Recently there was a discussion about Savanna on bare metal provisioning through Nova (see thread [1]). Nobody

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] [qa] Ceilometer ERRORS in normal runs

2013-10-23 Thread Rochelle.Grober
John Griffith wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/23/2013 10:40 AM, John Griffith wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Sean Dague wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Hyper-V] Havana status

2013-10-11 Thread Rochelle.Grober
When you do, have a beer for me. I'll be looking for what you guys come up with. And I don't think a separate project would be a second class project. The driver guys could be so successful that all the drivers end up there and the interfaces between Nova and the drivers get *real* clean and

Re: [openstack-dev] Stats on blueprint design info / creation times

2013-08-21 Thread Rochelle.Grober
+100 If one blueprint points to another, then the pointers should be present and available in both blueprints. Dependency linking, folks. --Rocky From: Mike Spreitzer [] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:04 AM To: Daniel P. Berrange Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing