*From:* Georgy Okrokvertskhov [gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2015 10:06 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
There is one thing which still bothers
On 12/05/15 09:44, Stan Lagun wrote:
+1 for making Murano Engine - Murano Agent communication plugable so
that one can switch to Zaqar or anything else.
Cool, thanks.
However watching RabbitMQ
development for years I know hard can it be to build efficient and
reliable system and I'm just not
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
+1. Is it a separate e-mail thread or IRC meeting?
Thanks
Gosha
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Fox, Kevin M
kevin@pnnl.govmailto:kevin@pnnl.gov wrote:
it seems like the trove/zaqar guys are talking about a very similar
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote:
There is more to multi-tenancy than just authentication/authorisation.
It's also things like making sure one tenant's use of resources doesn't
affect another tenant's (e.g. creating a denial of service by maxing out
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Fox, Kevin M
kevin@pnnl.govmailto:kevin@pnnl.gov wrote:
Awesome. When is it/where do I go to look up that info?
http
to get together and chat?
Thanks,
Kevin
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*From:* Stan Lagun [sla...@mirantis.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:52 PM
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov wrote:
Awesome. When is it/where do I go to look up that info?
http://sched.co/3Clo
Sincerely yours,
Stan Lagun
Principal Software Engineer @ Mirantis
sla...@mirantis.com
Zane,
Fully agree with you vision here.
On 12 May 2015, at 07:15, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote:
* Add an action in Mistral for sending a message to a Zaqar queue. This is
easy and there's no reason you couldn't do it right now.
Any volunteers?
* Add a way to trigger a Mistral
: Georgy Okrokvertskhov [gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
There is one thing which still bothers me. It is authentication. Right now
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Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:15 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello!
This looks like a perfect soapbox from which to talk about my favourite
issue ;)
You're right about the ssh idea, for the reasons discussed
:* Georgy Okrokvertskhov [gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com]
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There is one thing which still bothers me. It is authentication
From: Zane Bitter [zbit...@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:15 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello!
This looks like a perfect soapbox from which to talk about my favourite
issue ;)
You're right
(not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
There is one thing which still bothers me. It is authentication. Right now with
separate RabbitMQ instance we keep VMs authentication isolated from OpenStack
infra.
This is still a problem if you want to use
+1 for making Murano Engine - Murano Agent communication plugable so that
one can switch to Zaqar or anything else. However watching RabbitMQ
development for years I know hard can it be to build efficient and reliable
system and I'm just not sure Zaqar can compete with such battle-proven
thing
I would encourage everyone to listen Zane. I think Zaqar is the way to go
for Murano. It is not the first time when someone asks as to switch MQ
technologies. Remember our journey with ZeroMQ?
Lets meet with Zaqar team on the summit and discuss what we can do
together. As I remember Zaqar even
+1
From: Zane Bitter [zbit...@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:15 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello!
This looks like a perfect soapbox from which to talk about my
Hi Stan
we wanted interact with murano applications from mistral. Currently
there is no support in mistral how to execute scripts on VM via murano
agent (maybe I miss something). We noticed std.ssh mistral action so we
consider SSH as one of the options. I think that it is not good idea due
Hi
there is VPN mechanism in neutron we could consider for future how to
get around these networking obstacles if we would like to use direct SSH.
1) every private created by murano would create VPN gateway on public
interface of the router [1]
neutron vpn-service-create --name myvpn
Stan,
At the beginning we considered whether we could implement action on a
murano application via mistral workflow. We thought that it could be
beneficial to use workflow engine to implement some non-trivial action
e.g. reconfiguration of some complex application within murano
environment.
Filip,
Currently there is no support in mistral how to execute scripts on VM via
murano agent
Mistral can call Murano application action that will do the job via agent.
Actions are intended to be called by 3rd party systems with single HTTP
request
Sincerely yours,
Stan Lagun
Principal
List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Kevin,
I do agree that lack of RabbitMQ multi-tenancy is a problem. However as this is
developers mailing list I would suggest to contribute and make Murano guest
agent secure for the benefit of all
Hello!
This looks like a perfect soapbox from which to talk about my favourite
issue ;)
You're right about the ssh idea, for the reasons discussed related to
networking and a few more that weren't (e.g. users shouldn't have to and
generally don't want to give their private SSH keys to cloud
:17 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Filip,
If I got you right the plan is to have Murano application execute
Mistral workflow that SSH to VM and executes particular command
(not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Filip,
If I got you right the plan is to have Murano application execute Mistral
workflow that SSH to VM and executes particular command? And alternative is
Murano-Mistral-Zaquar-Zaquar agent?
Why can't you just
Filip,
If I got you right the plan is to have Murano application execute Mistral
workflow that SSH to VM and executes particular command? And alternative is
Murano-Mistral-Zaquar-Zaquar agent?
Why can't you just send this command directly from Murano (to Murano agent
on VM)? This is the most
Generally yes, std.ssh action works as long as network infrastructure allows
access to a host using specified IP, it doesn’t provide anything on top of that.
On 06 May 2015, at 22:26, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov wrote:
This would also probably be a good use case for Zaqar I think. Have
mailto:filip.bl...@hp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:42 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We are considering implementing actions on services of a murano
,
Radek
From: Georgy Okrokvertskhov [mailto:gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 6:40 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Connection direction here is important only
-Original Message-
From: Blaha, Filip
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:43 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We
(not for usage questions)
*Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hi,
When we use Murano in production there is a MQ service which is running
on OpenStack controllers but it listens on public interface. It means that
both Murano which is running on OpenStack
:43 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We are considering implementing actions on services of a murano
environment via mistral workflows. We are considering whether mistral
std.ssh action could be used to run some
: Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:18 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hi,
When we use Murano in production there is a MQ service which is running on
OpenStack controllers but it listens on public interface
Message-
From: Blaha, Filip
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:43 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We are considering implementing actions on services of a murano
environment via mistral workflows. We are considering
chooses what's the
best route for their cloud?
Thanks,
Kevin
From: Filip Blaha [filip.bl...@hp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:42 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We
] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We are considering implementing actions on services of a murano
environment via mistral workflows. We are considering whether mistral
std.ssh action could be used to run some command on an instance. Example of
such action in murano could be restart action
From: Filip Blaha [filip.bl...@hp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:42 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We are considering implementing actions on services of a murano
environment via
] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We are considering implementing actions on services of a murano environment
via mistral workflows. We are considering whether mistral std.ssh action could
be used to run some command on an instance. Example of such action in murano
could be restart action on Mysql
Hello
We are considering implementing actions on services of a murano
environment via mistral workflows. We are considering whether mistral
std.ssh action could be used to run some command on an instance. Example
of such action in murano could be restart action on Mysql DB service.
Mistral
to RabbitMQ which
is also accessed by Murano engine
Regards,
Radek
-Original Message-
From: Blaha, Filip
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:43 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action
Hello
We are considering
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