Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2018-07-06 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 5/23/2017 7:12 PM, Michael Glasgow wrote: A slight disadvantage of this approach is that the resulting incongruence between the client and the API is obfuscating.  When an end user can make accurate inferences about the API based on how the client works, that's a form of transparency that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-06-02 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/2/2017 12:40 AM, 한승진 wrote: Hello, stackers I am just curious about the results of lots of discussions on the below blueprint. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-volume-type-with-bdm-parameter Can I ask what the concolusion is?

[openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-06-01 Thread 한승진
Hello, stackers I am just curious about the results of lots of discussions on the below blueprint. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-volume-type-with-bdm-parameter Can I ask what the concolusion is? __

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Sean McGinnis > wrote: > > > >> If it's just too much debt and risk of slippery slope type arguments on > >> the Nova side (and that's fair, after lengthy

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Yingjun Li
It’s definitely a nice feature to have for end user, actually we implemented it our own because we need this but nova doesn’t support. Yingjun > On May 24, 2017, at 6:58 AM, Jay Bryant wrote: > > > On 5/23/2017 9:56 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: >> >> >> On 23 May 2017

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Michael Glasgow
On 5/23/2017 4:43 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: In this particular case it may not be necessary, but I think early implementation of composite features in clients is actually the right way to prove the utility of these things going forward. Establish and document the process, implement in a way for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Jay Bryant
On 5/23/2017 9:56 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 23 May 2017 4:51 am, "Matt Riedemann" > wrote: Is this really something we are going to have to deny at least once per release? My God how is it that this is the #1 thing everyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Sean McGinnis wrote: > >> If it's just too much debt and risk of slippery slope type arguments on >> the Nova side (and that's fair, after lengthy conversations with Nova folks >> I get it), do we consider just orchestrating this from say

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
If it's just too much debt and risk of slippery slope type arguments on the Nova side (and that's fair, after lengthy conversations with Nova folks I get it), do we consider just orchestrating this from say OpenStack Client completely? The last resort (and it's an awful option) is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 5/23/2017 9:56 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: > >> Is it entirely unreasonable to turn the question around and ask why, >> given it is such a commonly requested feature, the Nova team are so >> resistant to it? >> > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 5/23/2017 9:56 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: Is it entirely unreasonable to turn the question around and ask why, given it is such a commonly requested feature, the Nova team are so resistant to it? Because it's technical debt for one thing. Adding more orchestration adds complexity, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 23 May 2017 4:51 am, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: Is this really something we are going to have to deny at least once per release? My God how is it that this is the #1 thing everyone for all time has always wanted Nova to do for them? Is it entirely unreasonable to turn

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:47:44PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > Just wanted to point out that someone else requested this again today: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466595/ > > 30 seconds going through launchpad for old blueprints found at least 4 > others: > >

[openstack-dev] [nova] Supporting volume_type when booting from volume

2017-05-22 Thread Matt Riedemann
Just wanted to point out that someone else requested this again today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466595/ 30 seconds going through launchpad for old blueprints found at least 4 others: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vol-type-with-blank-vol