Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Benton
VLAN tag, VXLAN id, etc.


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Bao Wang  wrote:

> Sorry, not good with neutron. Could you explain what "use a regular
> segmentation identifer like the rest of the network" ? What is this
> segmentation identifier ?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Kevin Benton  wrote:
>
>> No, the gateway_external_network_id option just refers to how your
>> network is deployed. If the external network uses a regular segmentation
>> identifier like the rest of the networks, this will work. If not, it won't
>> because the instances will try to use a segmentation identifier.
>>
>> In other words, if you have a separate physical interface for external
>> networks on your L3 agent nodes, this will not work.
>> On Aug 26, 2014 12:14 PM, "Bao Wang"  wrote:
>>
>>> Just want to clarify something. this public ip as private ip is only for
>>> external facing interfaces on a set of VM instances. At the same time, the
>>> majority of interfaces on hte same set of VM instances will not have public
>>> ip and their subnets are isolated networks. Will this change your
>>> conclusion when you mentioned "the gateway_external_network_id is left
>>> blank for the L3 agent" ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Kevin Benton  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this will depend on the deployment type for the L3 agent. If
>>>> the gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent, the
>>>> external network is vlan tagged just like any regular network and doesn't
>>>> have an independent bridge.[1] In that deployment scenario it should work
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mohammad Banikazemi 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Would this work? We used to have warnings in Neutron docs indicating
>>>>> that instances should not be attached to external networks:
>>>>> "It is important to understand that you should not attach the
>>>>> instance to Ext-Net directly. Instead, you must use a floating IP to make
>>>>> it accessible from the external network."
>>>>>
>>>>> In this particular case and with the OVS plugin, the traffic on the
>>>>> external network which now hosts tenant VMs (on OpenStack compute nodes)
>>>>> should get routed from the br-int to the external bridge br-ex using for
>>>>> example the appropriate vlan id (what if external network does not use
>>>>> vlan?) and then to the external network without doing the NATing. Would
>>>>> this traffic go through the veth pair connecting the br-int and br-ex?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mohammad
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Kevin Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28
>>>>> AM---Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network]Kevin
>>>>> Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28 AM---Yes, you should be able to create a
>>>>> shared/external network within Neutron to accomplish this.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Kevin Benton 
>>>>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
>>>>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
>>>>> Date: 08/23/2014 01:37 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as
>>>>> instance fixed IP
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within
>>>>> Neutron to accomplish this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with
>>>>>Openstack neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we 
>>>>> are
>>>>>expecting to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network
>>>>>configuration, programmability is another key element.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton <*blak...@gmail.com*
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>   Have you tried making the external network shared as well?
>>>>>   Instances that need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-26 Thread Bao Wang
Sorry, not good with neutron. Could you explain what "use a regular
segmentation identifer like the rest of the network" ? What is this
segmentation identifier ?


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Kevin Benton  wrote:

> No, the gateway_external_network_id option just refers to how your network
> is deployed. If the external network uses a regular segmentation identifier
> like the rest of the networks, this will work. If not, it won't because the
> instances will try to use a segmentation identifier.
>
> In other words, if you have a separate physical interface for external
> networks on your L3 agent nodes, this will not work.
> On Aug 26, 2014 12:14 PM, "Bao Wang"  wrote:
>
>> Just want to clarify something. this public ip as private ip is only for
>> external facing interfaces on a set of VM instances. At the same time, the
>> majority of interfaces on hte same set of VM instances will not have public
>> ip and their subnets are isolated networks. Will this change your
>> conclusion when you mentioned "the gateway_external_network_id is left
>> blank for the L3 agent" ?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Kevin Benton  wrote:
>>
>>> I think this will depend on the deployment type for the L3 agent. If the
>>> gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent, the external
>>> network is vlan tagged just like any regular network and doesn't have an
>>> independent bridge.[1] In that deployment scenario it should work fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mohammad Banikazemi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Would this work? We used to have warnings in Neutron docs indicating
>>>> that instances should not be attached to external networks:
>>>> "It is important to understand that you should not attach the instance
>>>> to Ext-Net directly. Instead, you must use a floating IP to make it
>>>> accessible from the external network."
>>>>
>>>> In this particular case and with the OVS plugin, the traffic on the
>>>> external network which now hosts tenant VMs (on OpenStack compute nodes)
>>>> should get routed from the br-int to the external bridge br-ex using for
>>>> example the appropriate vlan id (what if external network does not use
>>>> vlan?) and then to the external network without doing the NATing. Would
>>>> this traffic go through the veth pair connecting the br-int and br-ex?
>>>>
>>>> Mohammad
>>>>
>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Kevin Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28
>>>> AM---Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network]Kevin
>>>> Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28 AM---Yes, you should be able to create a
>>>> shared/external network within Neutron to accomplish this.
>>>>
>>>> From: Kevin Benton 
>>>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
>>>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
>>>> Date: 08/23/2014 01:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as
>>>> instance fixed IP
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within
>>>> Neutron to accomplish this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with
>>>>Openstack neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we 
>>>> are
>>>>expecting to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network
>>>>configuration, programmability is another key element.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton <*blak...@gmail.com*
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>   Have you tried making the external network shared as well?
>>>>   Instances that need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal 
>>>> network and
>>>>   go through the router like normal. Instances that need a public IP 
>>>> without
>>>>   NAT would just attach directly to the external network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>>>>   > wrote:
>>>>  I have a very

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Benton
No, the gateway_external_network_id option just refers to how your network
is deployed. If the external network uses a regular segmentation identifier
like the rest of the networks, this will work. If not, it won't because the
instances will try to use a segmentation identifier.

In other words, if you have a separate physical interface for external
networks on your L3 agent nodes, this will not work.
On Aug 26, 2014 12:14 PM, "Bao Wang"  wrote:

> Just want to clarify something. this public ip as private ip is only for
> external facing interfaces on a set of VM instances. At the same time, the
> majority of interfaces on hte same set of VM instances will not have public
> ip and their subnets are isolated networks. Will this change your
> conclusion when you mentioned "the gateway_external_network_id is left
> blank for the L3 agent" ?
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Kevin Benton  wrote:
>
>> I think this will depend on the deployment type for the L3 agent. If the
>> gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent, the external
>> network is vlan tagged just like any regular network and doesn't have an
>> independent bridge.[1] In that deployment scenario it should work fine.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mohammad Banikazemi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Would this work? We used to have warnings in Neutron docs indicating
>>> that instances should not be attached to external networks:
>>> "It is important to understand that you should not attach the instance
>>> to Ext-Net directly. Instead, you must use a floating IP to make it
>>> accessible from the external network."
>>>
>>> In this particular case and with the OVS plugin, the traffic on the
>>> external network which now hosts tenant VMs (on OpenStack compute nodes)
>>> should get routed from the br-int to the external bridge br-ex using for
>>> example the appropriate vlan id (what if external network does not use
>>> vlan?) and then to the external network without doing the NATing. Would
>>> this traffic go through the veth pair connecting the br-int and br-ex?
>>>
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Kevin Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28
>>> AM---Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network]Kevin
>>> Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28 AM---Yes, you should be able to create a
>>> shared/external network within Neutron to accomplish this.
>>>
>>> From: Kevin Benton 
>>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
>>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
>>> Date: 08/23/2014 01:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as
>>> instance fixed IP
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within
>>> Neutron to accomplish this.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with
>>>Openstack neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we 
>>> are
>>>expecting to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network
>>>configuration, programmability is another key element.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton <*blak...@gmail.com*
>>>> wrote:
>>>   Have you tried making the external network shared as well?
>>>   Instances that need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal 
>>> network and
>>>   go through the router like normal. Instances that need a public IP 
>>> without
>>>   NAT would just attach directly to the external network.
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>>>   > wrote:
>>>  I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could
>>>  not be deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private 
>>> networks.
>>>  Some interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network 
>>> with
>>>  their fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while 
>>> other
>>>  interfaces from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real
>>>  private/fixed IP addresses. What happen if we use public IP 
>>> addresses
>>>  

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-26 Thread Bao Wang
Just want to clarify something. this public ip as private ip is only for
external facing interfaces on a set of VM instances. At the same time, the
majority of interfaces on hte same set of VM instances will not have public
ip and their subnets are isolated networks. Will this change your
conclusion when you mentioned "the gateway_external_network_id is left
blank for the L3 agent" ?


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Kevin Benton  wrote:

> I think this will depend on the deployment type for the L3 agent. If the
> gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent, the external
> network is vlan tagged just like any regular network and doesn't have an
> independent bridge.[1] In that deployment scenario it should work fine.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mohammad Banikazemi 
> wrote:
>
>>  Would this work? We used to have warnings in Neutron docs indicating
>> that instances should not be attached to external networks:
>> "It is important to understand that you should not attach the instance
>> to Ext-Net directly. Instead, you must use a floating IP to make it
>> accessible from the external network."
>>
>> In this particular case and with the OVS plugin, the traffic on the
>> external network which now hosts tenant VMs (on OpenStack compute nodes)
>> should get routed from the br-int to the external bridge br-ex using for
>> example the appropriate vlan id (what if external network does not use
>> vlan?) and then to the external network without doing the NATing. Would
>> this traffic go through the veth pair connecting the br-int and br-ex?
>>
>> Mohammad
>>
>> [image: Inactive hide details for Kevin Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28
>> AM---Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network]Kevin
>> Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28 AM---Yes, you should be able to create a
>> shared/external network within Neutron to accomplish this.
>>
>> From: Kevin Benton 
>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
>> Date: 08/23/2014 01:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance
>> fixed IP
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within
>> Neutron to accomplish this.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>> > wrote:
>>
>>Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with
>>Openstack neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we are
>>expecting to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network
>>configuration, programmability is another key element.
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton <*blak...@gmail.com*
>>> wrote:
>>   Have you tried making the external network shared as well?
>>   Instances that need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal 
>> network and
>>   go through the router like normal. Instances that need a public IP 
>> without
>>   NAT would just attach directly to the external network.
>>
>>
>>   On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>>   > wrote:
>>  I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could
>>  not be deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private 
>> networks.
>>  Some interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network 
>> with
>>  their fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while 
>> other
>>  interfaces from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real
>>  private/fixed IP addresses. What happen if we use public IP 
>> addresses
>>  directly as fixed IP on those interfaces ? Will this work with 
>> Openstack
>>  neutron networking ? Will Openstack do NAT automatically on those ?
>>
>>  Overall, the requirement is to use the fixed/public IP to
>>  communicate with outside directly on some interfaces of some VM 
>> instances
>>  while keeping others as private. The floating IP is not an option 
>> here
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-24 Thread Kevin Benton
I think this will depend on the deployment type for the L3 agent. If the
gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent, the external
network is vlan tagged just like any regular network and doesn't have an
independent bridge.[1] In that deployment scenario it should work fine.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mohammad Banikazemi  wrote:

>  Would this work? We used to have warnings in Neutron docs indicating
> that instances should not be attached to external networks:
> "It is important to understand that you should not attach the instance to
> Ext-Net directly. Instead, you must use a floating IP to make it accessible
> from the external network."
>
> In this particular case and with the OVS plugin, the traffic on the
> external network which now hosts tenant VMs (on OpenStack compute nodes)
> should get routed from the br-int to the external bridge br-ex using for
> example the appropriate vlan id (what if external network does not use
> vlan?) and then to the external network without doing the NATing. Would
> this traffic go through the veth pair connecting the br-int and br-ex?
>
> Mohammad
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Kevin Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28
> AM---Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network]Kevin
> Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28 AM---Yes, you should be able to create a
> shared/external network within Neutron to accomplish this.
>
> From: Kevin Benton 
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
> Date: 08/23/2014 01:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance
> fixed IP
> --
>
>
>
> Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within Neutron
> to accomplish this.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
> > wrote:
>
>Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with
>Openstack neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we are
>expecting to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network
>configuration, programmability is another key element.
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton <*blak...@gmail.com*
>> wrote:
>   Have you tried making the external network shared as well?
>   Instances that need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal network 
> and
>   go through the router like normal. Instances that need a public IP 
> without
>   NAT would just attach directly to the external network.
>
>
>   On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang <*bywan...@gmail.com*
>   > wrote:
>  I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could not
>  be deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private 
> networks. Some
>  interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network with 
> their
>  fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while other 
> interfaces
>  from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real private/fixed 
> IP
>  addresses. What happen if we use public IP addresses directly as 
> fixed IP
>  on those interfaces ? Will this work with Openstack neutron 
> networking ?
>  Will Openstack do NAT automatically on those ?
>
>  Overall, the requirement is to use the fixed/public IP to
>  communicate with outside directly on some interfaces of some VM 
> instances
>  while keeping others as private. The floating IP is not an option 
> here
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-24 Thread Mohammad Banikazemi

Would this work? We used to have warnings in Neutron docs indicating that
instances should not be attached to external networks:
"It is important to understand that you should not attach the instance to
Ext-Net directly. Instead, you must use a floating IP to make it accessible
from the external network."

In this particular case and with the OVS plugin, the traffic on the
external network which now hosts tenant VMs (on OpenStack compute nodes)
should get routed from the br-int to the external bridge br-ex using for
example the appropriate vlan id (what if external network does not use
vlan?) and then to the external network without doing the NATing. Would
this traffic go through the veth pair connecting the br-int and br-ex?

Mohammad



From:   Kevin Benton 
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Date:   08/23/2014 01:37 AM
Subject:        Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance
fixed IP



Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within Neutron
to accomplish this.


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang  wrote:
  Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with Openstack
  neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we are
  expecting to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network
  configuration, programmability is another key element.


  On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton  wrote:
   Have you tried making the external network shared as well? Instances
   that need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal network and go
   through the router like normal. Instances that need a public IP without
   NAT would just attach directly to the external network.


   On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang  wrote:
 I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could not be
 deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private networks.
 Some interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network with
 their fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while other
 interfaces from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real
 private/fixed IP addresses. What happen if we use public IP addresses
 directly as fixed IP on those interfaces ? Will this work with
 Openstack neutron networking ? Will Openstack do NAT automatically on
 those ?


 Overall, the requirement is to use the fixed/public IP to communicate
 with outside directly on some interfaces of some VM instances while
 keeping others as private. The floating IP is not an option here

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-22 Thread Kevin Benton
Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within Neutron
to accomplish this.


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang  wrote:

> Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with Openstack
> neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we are expecting
> to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network configuration,
> programmability is another key element.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton  wrote:
>
>> Have you tried making the external network shared as well? Instances that
>> need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal network and go through the
>> router like normal. Instances that need a public IP without NAT would just
>> attach directly to the external network.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could not be
>>> deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private networks. Some
>>> interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network with their
>>> fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while other interfaces
>>> from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real private/fixed IP
>>> addresses. What happen if we use public IP addresses directly as fixed IP
>>> on those interfaces ? Will this work with Openstack neutron networking ?
>>> Will Openstack do NAT automatically on those ?
>>>
>>> Overall, the requirement is to use the fixed/public IP to communicate
>>> with outside directly on some interfaces of some VM instances while keeping
>>> others as private. The floating IP is not an option here
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-22 Thread Bao Wang
Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with Openstack
neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ?  As we are expecting
to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network configuration,
programmability is another key element.


On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton  wrote:

> Have you tried making the external network shared as well? Instances that
> need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal network and go through the
> router like normal. Instances that need a public IP without NAT would just
> attach directly to the external network.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang  wrote:
>
>> I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could not be
>> deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private networks. Some
>> interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network with their
>> fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while other interfaces
>> from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real private/fixed IP
>> addresses. What happen if we use public IP addresses directly as fixed IP
>> on those interfaces ? Will this work with Openstack neutron networking ?
>> Will Openstack do NAT automatically on those ?
>>
>> Overall, the requirement is to use the fixed/public IP to communicate
>> with outside directly on some interfaces of some VM instances while keeping
>> others as private. The floating IP is not an option here
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-21 Thread Kevin Benton
Have you tried making the external network shared as well? Instances that
need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal network and go through the
router like normal. Instances that need a public IP without NAT would just
attach directly to the external network.


On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang  wrote:

> I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could not be
> deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private networks. Some
> interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network with their
> fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while other interfaces
> from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real private/fixed IP
> addresses. What happen if we use public IP addresses directly as fixed IP
> on those interfaces ? Will this work with Openstack neutron networking ?
> Will Openstack do NAT automatically on those ?
>
> Overall, the requirement is to use the fixed/public IP to communicate with
> outside directly on some interfaces of some VM instances while keeping
> others as private. The floating IP is not an option here
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