Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-20 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
Hi! Comments inline. On 20/05/14 21:58, "Zane Bitter" wrote: >On 20/05/14 12:17, Jay Pipes wrote: >> Hi Zane, sorry for the delayed response. Comments inline. >> >> You are assuming a public cloud provider use case above. As much as I >> tend to focus on the utility cloud model, where the incent

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/05/14 12:17, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Zane, sorry for the delayed response. Comments inline. On 05/06/2014 09:09 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 05/05/14 13:40, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-20 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Zane, sorry for the delayed response. Comments inline. On 05/06/2014 09:09 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 05/05/14 13:40, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate components -- i.e have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-09 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
> > This is why there is a distinction between properties set on images > vs properties set on flavours. Image properties, which a normal user > can set, are restricted to aspects of the VM which don't involve > consumption of compute host resources. Flavour properties, which > only a user with 'f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Solly Ross
ack Development > Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 10:51:47 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation > through Heat (pt.2) > > The way I was thinking this would work would be to allow "fla

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Solly Ross
Daniel P. Berrange" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 5:08:32 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation > through Heat (pt.2) > > On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 01:40:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 11:22:38AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:40:08PM +, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: > > This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans > > describing it in a blueprint? > > Would happily share the work. > > > > Should we mi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:40:08PM +, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: > This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans > describing it in a blueprint? > Would happily share the work. > > Should we mix it with flavors in horizon though? I¹m thinking of having a > separate ³Resour

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 01:40:43PM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: > One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over > on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate > components -- i.e have a disk flavor, a CPU flavor, and a RAM flavor. > This way, you still get the c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-07 Thread Solly Ross
(response inline) - Original Message - > From: "Zane Bitter" > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 9:09:09 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation > through Heat (pt.2) > > On 05/05/14 1

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 05/05/14 13:40, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate components -- i.e have a disk flavor, a CPU flavor, and a RAM flavor. This way, you still get the control of the size of your bu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:40:08PM +, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: > This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans > describing it in a blueprint? > Would happily share the work. > > Should we mix it with flavors in horizon though? I¹m thinking of having a > separate ³Resour

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
> -Original Message- > From: Solly Ross [mailto:sr...@redhat.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 10:16 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation > through Heat (pt.2) &

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
ng List (not for usage questions)" > >Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 3:40:08 PM >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation >through Heat (pt.2) > >This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans >describing it in a blueprint

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Solly Ross
t for usage questions)" Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 3:40:08 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share the work. Shoul

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share the work. Should we mix it with flavors in horizon though? I¹m thinking of having a separate ³Resources² page, wherein the user can ³define² resources. I¹m not a UX expert though

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Friesen
On 05/05/2014 12:18 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: As a simplifying view you could keep the existing flavors which group all of them, while still allowing instances to specify each one separately if desired. Also, if we're allowing the cpu/memory/disk to be specified independently at instance boot

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Friesen
On 05/05/2014 11:40 AM, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate components -- i.e have a disk flavor, a CPU flavor, and a RAM flavor. This way, you still get the control of the size of yo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Friesen
On 05/05/2014 10:51 AM, Steve Gordon wrote: In addition extra specifications may denote the passthrough of additional devices, adding another dimension. This seems likely to be the case in the use case outlined in the original thread [1]. Thanks, Steve [1] http://lists.openstack.org/piperma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Solly Ross
/#/c/91444/). - Original Message - From: "Dimitri Mazmanov" To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 1:20:09 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) I guess I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
t (not for usage questions)" > >Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 2:18:21 AM >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation >through Heat (pt.2) > >> Having project-scoped flavors will rid us of the identified issues, and >>will allow a more fine-grain

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-05-05 10:01:12 -0700: > If you actually have 64 flavors, though, and it's overwhelming > your users, it would be pretty trivial to implement a "flavor > recommender" where you input your requirements and it pops out > the nearest flavor. That being said,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Solly Ross
if your computer has a problem dealing with a choice between 64 (or even 512) different flavors, perhaps it's time to upgrade :-P. Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - From: "Clint Byrum" To: "openstack-dev" Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:28:58 PM Subject:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-05-05 08:23:41 -0700: > > Just to expand a bit on this, flavors are supposed to be the lowest level > > of granularity, > > and the general idea is to round to the nearest flavor (so if you have a VM > > that requires > > 3GB

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-05-05 08:23:41 -0700: > Just to expand a bit on this, flavors are supposed to be the lowest level of > granularity, > and the general idea is to round to the nearest flavor (so if you have a VM > that requires > 3GB of RAM, go with a 4GB flavor). Hence,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Solly Ross
s that are extremely over-allocated). Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - From: "Serg Melikyan" To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 2:18:21 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova F

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-04 Thread Serg Melikyan
>Having project-scoped flavors will rid us of the identified issues, and will allow a more fine-grained way of managing physical resources. Flavors concept was introduced in clouds to solve issue with effective physical resource usage: 8Gb physical memory can be effectively splitted to two m2.my_s