Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-26 Thread Jay Bryant
Mike, This effort has taken quite some time and was going to require hard decisions to be made at some point. You have been more than patient in this process and I commend you for that as well as all the communication. Thank you for continuing to drive this! Jay On Mar 24, 2015 10:55 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Walter A. Boring IV wrote: Thanks Mike for all of your efforts on this, +1 I think Mike checked all the possible boxes to give fair warning to driver owners. It's hard to say no in the name of quality. It's so

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Mark McClain
On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Walter A. Boring IV wrote: Thanks Mike for all of your efforts on this, +1 I think Mike checked

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Walter A. Boring IV wrote: Thanks Mike for all of your efforts on this, +1 I think Mike checked all the possible boxes to give fair warning to driver owners. It's hard to say no in the name of quality. It's so much easier to just say yes and avoid all the hatemail and the pressure. Mike did

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Walter A. Boring IV walter.bor...@hp.com wrote: On 03/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 12:59 Mon 23 Mar , Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
I also absolutely agree that Mike did a great job on the communication with the driver maintainers and a lot more, especially in the hectic days around the K-3 deadline. Removing any driver lacking CI testing was just the right thing to do, even if this affected our SMB3 driver. Hopefully this is

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Mark McClain's message of 2015-03-24 10:25:31 -0400: Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining drivers in the tree comes with responsibilities to

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
+10 to mike; I have no doubt this is an uneasy and tough task. Thanks mike for pushing this through; given all the challenges and hard work (and likely not fun work) that had to be done. I salute u! :) -Josh Duncan Thomas wrote: On 23 March 2015 at 22:50, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/24/2015 06:05 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Mark McClain's message of 2015-03-24 10:25:31 -0400: Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Rochelle Grober
List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI)) I’d like to suggest that the myriad wiki pages and spreadsheets for Third Party CI also be consolidated to a more

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Mark McClain's message of 2015-03-24 10:25:31 -0400: Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining drivers in the tree comes with responsibilities to the community and 3rd party CI is one of the them. Mike enforcing this

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Avishay Traeger
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote: I'm really disappointed that there hasn't been more support for Mike in this process. I can see how everyone thought I was the problem last year when I had to endure this kind of treatment in Neutron, but I would think

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 23 March 2015 at 22:50, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com wrote: I've talked to folks at the OpenStack foundation to get feedback on my communication, and was told this was good, and even better than previous communication to controversial changes. I expected nevertheless people to be angry

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Arkady_Kanevsky
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential +2 on Mike’s job From: Duncan Thomas [mailto:duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:07 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Anita Kuno
On 03/23/2015 03:59 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking about CI deadlines in August. If you post a driver for Kilo, it was communicated that you're required to have a CI by the end of

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Walter A. Boring IV
On 03/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 12:59 Mon 23 Mar , Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking about CI deadlines in August. If you post a driver for Kilo, it was communicated that

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Rochelle Grober
: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI)) On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.orgmailto:stef...@openstack.org wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Anita Kuno
: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI)) On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.orgmailto:stef...@openstack.org wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Mike Perez
On 12:59 Mon 23 Mar , Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking about CI deadlines in August. If you post a driver for Kilo, it was communicated that you're required to have a CI by the

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Patrick East
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking about CI deadlines in August. If you post a driver for Kilo, it was communicated that you're

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Mike Perez
On 21:51 Mon 23 Mar , Rochelle Grober wrote: I’d like to suggest that the myriad wiki pages and spreadsheets for Third Party CI also be consolidated to a more manageable count. Just looking for maintainers contact, you can find information (often conflicting) in Stackalytics, on the

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Alex Meade
As an Engineer running the NetApp CI, I thought it would be a good time to chime in here. While I have many opinions around this whole process, I will try my best to avoid any judgement and minimize ratholes. Over the past year, we have implemented a scalable CI system that is now running tests