Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-09 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
tack-dev@lists.openstack.org> >Date: August 6, 2016 at 07:48:01 >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) ><openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] >[Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-09 Thread Ian Cordasco
t;openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project > an, > > I value your input, but concern still stands. Amazon's compute API moves > slowly in comparison > to Docker registry's AP

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-09 Thread Kirill Zaitsev
 Undoubtedly, in the short term it will be painful, but I believe that in the long run Glare will win. Let’s hope that projects, that use Glare would also win from this decision. =) It seems to me, that murano is currently the only one that has been actively trying to incorporate glare into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
enstack.org>> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 4:52 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Muran

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-06 Thread Ian Cordasco
selves. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > -- > *From:* Hongbin Lu [hongbin...@huawei.com] > *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 1:29 PM > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project If glare was docker repo api compatible though, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project Replied inline. From: Mikhail Fedosin [mailto:mfedo...@mirantis.com] Sent: August-05-16 2:10 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread Hongbin Lu
Replied inline. From: Mikhail Fedosin [mailto:mfedo...@mirantis.com] Sent: August-05-16 2:10 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project Thank you all for your responses

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread Mikhail Fedosin
Thank you all for your responses! >From my side I can add that our separation is a deliberate step. We pre-weighed all pros and cons and our final decision was that moving forward as a new project is the lesser of two evils. Undoubtedly, in the short term it will be painful, but I believe that in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
I don't have a strong opinion on the split vs stay discussion. It does seem there's been sustained if ineffective attempts to keep this together so I lean toward supporting the divorce. But let's not pretend there are no costs for this. On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:02:48PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread stuart . mclaren
I think this makes sense. "Should Artifacts be part of Glance?" is something folks have been debating for several years now, with seemingly equal numbers on each side. Even though it was far from unanimous, several summits ago it was decided to aim for a a v3 Glance API which would support all

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 04/08/16 15:46 +, Alexander Tivelkov wrote: I am the one who started the initiative 2.5 years ago, and was always advocating the "let's stay in Glance" approach during numerous discussions on "where should it belong" for all these years. Now I believe that it is time to move forward

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread Flavio Percoco
Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project > On 04 Aug 2016, at 19:34, Erno Kuvaja wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-05 Thread Tim Bell
> On 05 Aug 2016, at 01:02, Jay Pipes wrote: > > On 08/04/2016 06:40 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: >> Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-08-04 18:14:46 -0400: >>> On 08/04/2016 05:30 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-08-04 19:20:43

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Hongbin Lu
ck Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App- > Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project > > I disagree. I see glare as a superset of the needs of the image api and > one feature I need thats image related was

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/04/2016 06:40 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-08-04 18:14:46 -0400: On 08/04/2016 05:30 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-08-04 19:20:43 +: I disagree. I see glare as a superset of the needs of the image api and one

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-08-04 18:14:46 -0400: > On 08/04/2016 05:30 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-08-04 19:20:43 +: > >> I disagree. I see glare as a superset of the needs of the image api and > >> one feature I need thats image

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/04/2016 05:30 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-08-04 19:20:43 +: I disagree. I see glare as a superset of the needs of the image api and one feature I need thats image related was specifically shot down as "the artefact api will solve that". You

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-08-04 19:20:43 +: > I disagree. I see glare as a superset of the needs of the image api and one > feature I need thats image related was specifically shot down as "the > artefact api will solve that". > > You have all the same needs to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Erno Kuvaja
t; > Thanks, > Kevin > > From: Erno Kuvaja [ekuv...@redhat.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:34 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Mura

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Fox, Kevin M
August 04, 2016 11:47 AM To: Tim Bell; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project -Original Message- From: Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch> Reply: OpenStack Developm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Fox, Kevin M
nks, Kevin From: Erno Kuvaja [ekuv...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:34 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:20 PM, C

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Erno Kuvaja
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > >> On 04 Aug 2016, at 19:34, Erno Kuvaja wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: >>> Excerpts from Tim Bell's message of 2016-08-04 15:55:48 +: On 04

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Ian Cordasco
t;openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project > > > On 04 Aug 2016, at 19:34, Erno Kuvaja wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> Excerpts from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Fox, Kevin M
-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project On 04 Aug 2016, at 17:27, Mikhail Fedosin <mfedo...@mirantis.com<mailto:mfedo...@mirantis.com>> wrote: Hi all, after 6 months of Glare v1 API development we have decided to continue our work in a sepa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Tim Bell
> On 04 Aug 2016, at 19:34, Erno Kuvaja wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: >> Excerpts from Tim Bell's message of 2016-08-04 15:55:48 +: >>> >>> On 04 Aug 2016, at 17:27, Mikhail Fedosin >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Erno Kuvaja
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Tim Bell's message of 2016-08-04 15:55:48 +: >> >> On 04 Aug 2016, at 17:27, Mikhail Fedosin >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > > > after 6 months of Glare

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Bell's message of 2016-08-04 15:55:48 +: > > On 04 Aug 2016, at 17:27, Mikhail Fedosin > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > after 6 months of Glare v1 API development we have decided to continue > > our work in a separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Erno Kuvaja
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Tivelkov wrote: > I am the one who started the initiative 2.5 years ago, and was always > advocating the "let's stay in Glance" approach during numerous discussions > on "where should it belong" for all these years. > Now I believe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Tim Bell
On 04 Aug 2016, at 17:27, Mikhail Fedosin > wrote: Hi all, after 6 months of Glare v1 API development we have decided to continue our work in a separate project in the "openstack" namespace with its own core team (me, Kairat Kushaev, Darja

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
I am the one who started the initiative 2.5 years ago, and was always advocating the "let's stay in Glance" approach during numerous discussions on "where should it belong" for all these years. Now I believe that it is time to move forward indeed. Some things remain to be defined (first of all the

[openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Mikhail Fedosin
Hi all, after 6 months of Glare v1 API development we have decided to continue our work in a separate project in the "openstack" namespace with its own core team (me, Kairat Kushaev, Darja Shkhray and the original creator - Alexander Tivelkov). We want to thank Glance community for their support