Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-15 Thread PACHECO, RODOLFO J
Monty The one missing aspect in this network model, is the ability to identify /categorize a VNF VM, that i.e. Is using SRIOV and only cares about VLAN’s Such VM’s would not have IP Addresses in some cases, and wouldn’t be describable with the external/internal address labels. I feel you need

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/15/2017 11:44 AM, Ian Wells wrote: I'm coming to this cold, so apologies when I put my foot in my mouth. But I'm trying to understand what you're actually getting at, here - other than helpful simplicity - and I'm not following the detail of you're thinking, so take this as a form of

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/15/2017 11:51 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2017-05-15 12:40:17 -0400: On 05/14/2017 01:02 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: ** Bikeshed #1 ** Are "internal" and "external" ok with folks as terms for those two ideas? Yup, ++ from me on the above. ** Bikeshed #2

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2017-05-15 12:40:17 -0400: > On 05/14/2017 01:02 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > ** Bikeshed #1 ** > > > > Are "internal" and "external" ok with folks as terms for those two ideas? > > Yup, ++ from me on the above. > > > ** Bikeshed #2 ** > > > > Anybody have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-15 Thread Ian Wells
I'm coming to this cold, so apologies when I put my foot in my mouth. But I'm trying to understand what you're actually getting at, here - other than helpful simplicity - and I'm not following the detail of you're thinking, so take this as a form of enquiry. On 14 May 2017 at 10:02, Monty Taylor

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 05/14/2017 01:02 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: ** Bikeshed #1 ** Are "internal" and "external" ok with folks as terms for those two ideas? Yup, ++ from me on the above. ** Bikeshed #2 ** Anybody have a problem with the key name "network-models"? They're not network models. They're

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-15 Thread Neil Jerram
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 6:02 PM Monty Taylor wrote: > Are "internal" and "external" ok with folks as terms for those two ideas? > Yes, I think so. Slight worry that 'external' is also used in 'router:external' - but I think it will be clear that your proposed context is

[openstack-dev] [api][neutron][nova][Openstack-operators][interop] Time for a bikeshed - help me name types of networking

2017-05-14 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! LONG EMAIL WARNING I'm working on a proposal to formalize a cloud profile document. (we keep and support these in os-client-config, but it's grown up ad-hoc and is hard for other languages to consume -so we're going to rev it and try to encode information in it more sanely) I need